India fighting small-scale war with Pakistan: DG Rangers Punjab
In a comprehensive briefing to the media at the working boundary, DG Rangers Major General Tahir Javaid Khan said though the aggression appears to be military, there could a political agenda behind the recent border clashes.
While talking to the media, DG Rangers provided a breakdown of firearms used in the ceasefire violations between 2010 and 2014. According to him, Indian Border Security Force (BSF) used 3.48 million small firearms on the working boundary during the stated period.
More than 30,000 mortar shells have also been fired between the aforementioned years and DG Rangers said such a large amount is not even used in a full-scale war.
Denying allegations that Pakistan started firing on LoC, Foreign Office said border clashes were initiated by India and the armed forces are only responding to Indian aggression.
As firing began on the first day of Eidul Azha on 193-km long working boundary, thousands of firearms have reportedly landed in Pakistan.
On October 6 alone, over 51,000 small arms were fired across the boundary, while on October 7, more than 4,000 mortar shells were fired. Exceeding the previous number, India fired over 6,000 mortar shells on October 8.
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif summoned a meeting of National Security Council today in light of the recent border clashes.
Pakistan calls upon India to allow UN observer to visit LoC
Pakistan has called upon India to allow the United Nations (UN) military observer group to visit the LoC to investigate the recent ceasefire violations, Radio Pakistan reported.
Moreover, Foreign Office spokesperson Tasneem Aslam, during a media briefing in Islamabad, said that Pakistan took UN observers to their side of the LoC to show them the aftermath caused by the firing.
She added that the observers have compiled a report and have sent it to the UN.
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@Haider:
Why are you thinking about Kashmir? First think about yourself and your nation. Taliban and Al-Qaida are in your home and they will ruin your already worse country. NWFP and Balochistan is losing from your hand in the race of gaining Kashmir.
Also, ISIS is almost there.
True face of India exposed again. India is a country which invaded the State of Kashmir, and has killed many innocent Kashmiri men, women and children under their brutal occupation of Kashmir, not to mention the Indian State sanctioned Rape Raids carried out by Indian troops on Kashmiris.
As India was not satisfied of killing innocent Kashmiris under Indian occupation, it has now started killing innocent Kashmiris on Pakistan's side.
India is clearly an aggressor, and peace needs to achieved by keeping the brutal Indian mindset in mind.
India is a country that promised Khalistan to Khalistanis, later only going back on their word, and committing genocide of Khalistanis. Treachery, Intellectual dishonesty, Rapes and Brutal Murder is what India stands on, because it has no moral or ethical reality to stand, on its deluded claims.
This is what we are dealing with, we need practically approach to have peace with this neighbour.
I believe giving mandatory military training to the civilian population of Pakistan as a part of their education would be an ever ready solution to the Indian problem, as our population would be well equipped to deal with Indians any time.
It does not matter who fired the first bullet. Please both sides stop and talk. Do not drag US, UK or any other nation into your problems as they don't care about India or Pakistan. They care about their own economies and their own nations. Look at what they have done in Iraq, Afganistan, parts of Pakistan. Now when ISL has started they want the local armies to fight. They are helping only because they are worried that the war may come to them. There are more Muslims living in India than in whole of Pakistan. Even the security advisor was not aware of that and that Eid is a National holiday in India. Let these old people retire and the young lot take over and bring peace in the region and prosperity for your people.
@MJ: Since 1972 when Simla agreement was signed, India has never inolved the UNMOGIP - not even during Kargill. Keeping dispute resolution bulateral is a matter of principle for India.
@MJ: kashmir is an integral part of India.. Why would we allow outsiders to come and give us judgements. I am from Indian Punjab and please believe that people here will never let Pakistan interfere in its internal matters.
@Haider: pakistan is just trying to bring kashmir on international news and India wont allow that.. Kashmir is an integral part of India...
Just 3 days back IMF revised the new world order in world economic outlook which says China overtakes US as worlds largest economy with $17.6 trillion against US's $17.4 trillion in PPP term which is the best way of measurement of a nations economy as per IMF and economic experts as it shows the real size of a nations economy.The 3rd biggest economy in world now is India which stands at $7.277 trillion in PPP and 2.047 at nominal term.The 4th biggest economy is Japan with $ 4.8 trillion in PPP,The 5th largest is Germany,6th is Russia,7th is Brazil,8th is France,9th is Indonesia which overtake UK to 9th spot and finally 10th is UK.These are new world order of top 10 powerful global economy.
@Usman Mubashir:
Well Usman, We do not allow UN because we are capable of solving our problem, on other hand Pakistan knows very well that No body in this world is concentrating on Pakistan's view about Kashmir and India.
hence Pakistan have no other options to make it highlighted to world other than by involving UN.
Pakistan Tactical weapons may be decade advanced but as soon as you think to act with all hypothetical weapons you will be finished by India's current weapons.
since you are preparing weapons from long back it means they are OLD too and may not work at the time of requirement since you have now major help from China.and we all know about Chinese products....
we do not have any interest to prove world about India all knows it very well. the same way they know about Pakistan as you know America is keep on Bombing missiles in Pakistan region to finish terrorist and Pakistan is just watching them and waiting till they leave the country.
we are peaceful nation and we always appreciate peace but not on conditions that Pakistan and rest of world have to understand.
The Major difference between Indian politics and Pakistani politics is that our leader like Mr. Narendra Modi is asking vote for development and you leader Mr. Bilawal bhutto is asking vote for snatching Kashmir from India.
This was just a dress rehearsal to teach Pakistan some lesson, in case border violations still continue, a short but decisive war cannot be ruled to destroy the Pak conventional and nuclear capabilities. This war would incapacitate the country for the next ten years including its economy which is already in doldrums.
Dipak@Aktar: Aakar totally agrees with you.
Dipak@Arbaaz: You are so correct. India always has upper hand, weather in 194, 1965, 1971, 1999 and now in 2014.
I don't believe DG Ranger Punjab is as stupid as the newspaper thinks. Pakistani army started violations along LoC thinking Monu and Sonu are in charge of India. When they tried trouble inside Indian Border they foundnout that Modi is in charge, not Monu and Sonu. Well Pak Army and DG Punjab ran back as hard as they could to save their tail and feel safe now that they are back in Pakistan.
@Qamber: Not much left. Everything used up in breeding terrorists.
@nbr: dont bring America into everything, Modi is not American....those who cheated us on Kashmir were not Americans, they were Indians...
@Chacko Cherian Calicut: Zahid Hamid is a Indian pretending to be Pakistani.
There is no winner in war, everyone should realize that. Peace.
Brothers.. We both wasted bullets and life.. nothing is gained.. only America gained.you have more than enough internal problems.. so do we..pls concentrate on that and make our country a happier place..
tribune why is imran khan's jalsa at multan not in your headlines.......wth??why is nawaz sharif getting so much influential over media......
Hello Pakistani brothers I am from India . I think we civilians from india and even from Pakistan don't want war but this is all political. This corrupt politicians from both the sides don't want peace. Questions is why? Bcz when every thing get normal they will left with no work . no political agenda for elections. They will not get commissions from importing arms and ammunitions. All this develop country US Germany etc... Want dumping market for there ammunitions. Here on other hand China talk so sweet with both the country's but they want to make colony to sell there industrial products . They are planning same thing what Britishers did with India and rest of the world long back and this media people take advantage of all this and show news in manner with provak civilians. Lot more to write but I conclude Guys we all are friends we should ask our government to stop all this n make peace.
If Indians honestly believe that they are just responding to Pakistani aggression, why don't they ask their own government to allow independent UN observers on the L.O.C.? The Indian government has denied request by Pakistan to put UN observers on L.O.C. more than a dozen times in this decade alone. And please ... don't give me the usual answer that Indians "care" too much about UN observers' lives. We have heard the same excuse from Israel hundreds of times when they deny independent observers and humanitarian aid from areas where they are "active"
@Ashish: well, I do not believe in exporting terrorism, beating you in agriculture or industry will not reveal who is escalating the LOC condition. Pakistan has always asked India to allow UN to observe to check who did the first aggression, but India has never accepted, I wonder why. Secondly, although yes I do believe that the only way forwards is to have a race in development and industry which sadly is not happening (I'll admit our faults) on other side, plz do not rely on advantage of numbers, RAW has no idea of Pakistan's arsenal, not even CIA does, and Pakistan's tactical weapons are at least a decade advanced than Indians because we have been developing them quiet longer than you. If you want a fight of words that will do none of us any good, I feel deep sympathy for every life that has been lost on either side of the border, what I cannot say is who shot the first bullet, you cannot expect your army to remain silent while Pak army shoots and shoots, and I expect the same from my army. The only way to prove to the world who is the aggressor in the countless LOC cease fire violations is to let UN observe, which Pakistan has requested repeatedly, only to be let down. If anyone wants war, both of us have enough weaponry to annihilate each other completely, please talk sensibly, it is the need of the hour that the people of both countries force their countries to reach peace.
@Arbaaz: unfortunately, your small brain thinks army has a massive budget, wait till you compare it to the Indian budget, secondly, I am ashamed that you think so pessimistically about life and war.
@Aktar: I AM AN INDIAN ON UR WEB SITE . WE ARE NOT ON MOOD OF WAR WE ALSO NEED FRIENDS. WE WANT PEACE THIS SIDE NOT WAR . WE HAVE BIGGER POWER FORCE BUT WE DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH YOU .
India is the strongest it has been in years, under a nationalist government and a very strong economy. Pakistan finds itself in an almost exactly opposite scenario with a massively corrupt government that is itself a threat to national security and an economy in shambles.
Therefore, India is pressurising Pakistan to climb down from its position on Kashmir and exist not as a rival, but as a satrap similar to Nepal or Bangladesh.
Pakistan should fix its government first, build its economy, and then think of expanding its sphere of influence. The Army is critical to all of these goals.
@Tarzan: Clearly shows?? Where. Please explain.
@Ashish: Overexcited comments. Relax and take a chill pill.
@Aktar: Thanks Indian troll in disguise.
I am interested in knowing why Pakistanis think that India provoked the fight. I mean please give reasons why India would like to provoke a fight at this point of time.
Pakistan has already given befitting response by begging international community to intervene and pleading the Indian government to stop.
@just_someone: Standard but stale comment which has no locus standi.
PM Modi is busy fighting vested interests in India and has actually ignored Pakistan, assuming Inka to kuch nahi ho sakta. So better ignore them.
Best befitting reply what Pakistan can give is to remain silent.
India has in the past 5 years observed Israel's aggression against Palestinians this was the place where Indian generals got their dirty ideas. They provoke and begins the war and accuse the enemy and tries to get the sentiments of the enemies population. Indian army lies to it's population to win there trust. Such are they!
The news has come from Pak Army, that India has done ceasefire violations. Can we trust Pak Army? As everyone says Pak army is controlled by terrorist.
If this will go on, not only Pakistan or India will be at risk, but entire world will be at risk. As militants (be it from pakistan or Afgan or any part of the world) are spreading and growing their team size. This will be next world war for sure militants against the entire world, and I wonder this will be end of the world. So guys we should stop fighting against religion and should think like a human.
@Loyal: Yes and the same change forced Chinese president not to visit Pakistan.
hmmm...So Indian forces started it..just like that. Only Allah/God/Jesus/Waheguru can judge everyone and by the trajectory India and Pakistan are going It clearly shows who's being punished for being liars and doing the wrong things.
This is high time for Pakistan Politicians, ISI, and Army to realize that we should stop support to Terrorists and leave POK and concentrate on keeping our house Order. Otherwise another mini Pakistan will be created. India's current PM is stronger than Indira Gandhi, who created Bangladesh from Pakistan.
India is progressing rapidly, they have a very good PM. If we continue to provoke them, they have good arms and ammunitions....Lets have peace PM. Bring business here.
Modi has done nothing and, being the Hindu fundamentalist that he is, he is trying to fool the people by playing with their sentiments and their lives... Pak should give a befitting response so he doesnt dare do this again!
We have such a huge military budget. How and what firearms have we used?Our army is giving excuse by making a statement like this. Looks like India upper hand.
The theory behind India aggression at LoC is clear, they want status quo to be maintained in Pakistan. They are afraid, if some change in Pakistan may harm their interests.....
Common Pak Army Rock them with the power of Eman.