‘Prospect of Pakistan’s isolation is acute’

Published: February 6, 2011

At the Karachi Literature Festival, analyst Ahmed Rashid said the government needs to immediately review a number of fundamental policies. PHOTO: NEFER SEHGAL

KARACHI: By persisting with imprudent policy for a sustained period of time, Pakistan is now being viewed as a “nuisance” by its friends and foes alike, warned prominent journalist Ahmed Rashid – pointing to a very tough time ahead for the country.

Warning that the prospect of global isolation was “acute”, Rashid, a seasoned journalist and analyst, said that the country’s leadership needs to immediately review a number of fundamental policies.

It has come to the stage, he said, where he is being told by officials in strategically important countries that no one will come to the aid of Pakistan if there is another natural calamity, such as the recent floods or the 2005 earthquake.

In a candid talk at the Karachi Literature Festival on Saturday, Rashid, author of two seminal books on terrorism (Descent into Chaos and The Taliban), said the US already has a number of reservations – particularly the alleged sheltering of the Taliban leadership in safe houses located in areas such as Qila Saifullah and Pishin. The same goes for Iran’s concern regarding anti-Tehran groups.

Afghanistan, he said, deeply distrusts Pakistan, adding that even the Taliban leadership, while thankful for the shelter being given to it, was tired of  the constant meddling in its affairs.

Meanwhile, Russia has said that the recent blast at Moscow’s airport was planned in Pakistan and has approached Islamabad on the issue.

The Arabs, he stressed, are no friends of Pakistan either.

Even China is annoyed at the activities of Uighur militants in its Xinjiang region.

There is no way, he said, that Pakistan can rationalise its perseverance with a policy insisting that they should have the sole role in post-war Afghanistan.

Pakistan’s adamant stance that India should have little or no stake in Afghanistan is also incorrect, he said, pointing out that India is now the fifth largest donor to the war-torn country. Historically, he added, India also has had strong ties with Afghanistan in post-partition India.

He also pointed out that none of the regional players, including Iran, would simply “allow” Pakistan to be the sole player in Afghanistan any longer.

However, Rashid did say that Pakistan would automatically come out on top in the battle for influence in Afghanistan – since it provides the major ports to the landlocked country, shares the largest border with it, and also has ethnic affinity.

We need to be making friends in the region, not enemies, he stressed.

At home, said Rashid, Pakistan is also responsible for creating the home-grown Taliban, which he said, is a product of Pakistan’s own flawed policies of supporting militants. “After 9/11, we let them all in,” he alleged, adding that these very people then spread extremism in settled areas of Pakistan.

The other issue that Rashid talked about was that of expedient domestic policy.

He said that the government’s inability to enforce IMF and WB-related reforms due to political expediency means that the country will not receive any financial support, which it direly needs at the moment. Other financially-challenged countries, such as Greece, which have followed the reforms to the letter, will become focal points of the financial aid, and their willingness to follow the reform programmes will discredit Pakistan.

Pointing to the assassination of Salmaan Taseer, he said that the failure to come out in force against the assassin, due to the government’s fear, had only emboldened the extremist elements, as had the unwillingness of the government to touch the Blasphemy Law. He warned that tomorrow some other key political or military figure could also be targeted in the same manner.

Commenting on the Raymond Davis, the American shooter in Lahore, Rashid said that all these people are in Pakistan in the first place because they have been handed out Pakistani visas as a part of embracing an excessively compliant policy post-9/11 that has hurt country in the long run.  “This is our doing,” he said.

At the end, Rashid proposed, Pakistanis, particularly the elite, need to take responsibility and get Pakistan out of this mess. There needs to be a citizens’ movement, he said. “The military is obsessed with Afghanistan; I would like to see the political leadership obsessed with Pakistan.”

Published in The Express Tribune, February 6th, 2011.

Reader Comments (57)

  • ramin
    Feb 6, 2011 - 10:00AM

    Pakistan has a self determined fate – IMPLOSION!!!

    Very little anyone can do to save Pakistan! Just save yourself if U can.Recommend

  • Feb 6, 2011 - 10:44AM

    Well said. All of this is our doing but in the end we will manage to blame the “foreign powers” and blame me for having a “colonial mindset”. Recommend

  • a khan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 10:46AM

    err.. minor issue. they DID NOT come to us in case of flood already. Their total help for pakistan floods in 15% of what went to Haiti – and if you take out pre-promised kerry logar amount it goes to almost nothing. Their media already is cooking up enough hatred for ordinary american to think of pakistanis as savages and they have already shown their cards on who they want to befriend in long run during Obama’s last indian trip. 30,000 dead pakistanis in this war against nothing is enough i guess.

    Pak-US friendship is a gone cause. Lets atleast try and stay on our new found course of rule of law and respect for people’s choices through democracy. Raymond davis is probably an opportunity to get rid of this friendship from hell. Recommend

  • chitposh
    Feb 6, 2011 - 10:55AM

    May Allah protect life of Mr.Rashid Ahmed he has taken right but daring stanceRecommend

  • Philip
    Feb 6, 2011 - 11:04AM

    This is a very well-written article. Ahmed Rashid has it right about almost everything, and it is refreshing to hear him. I can say a very good place to begin to turn around Pakistan’s relations, particularly with the West, would be Pakistan seeing al-Qaeda brought to justice, or at the very least, ousted from Pakistan. This will require a carefully thought out yarn about why it has taken so long.Recommend

  • Feb 6, 2011 - 11:12AM

    Excellent analysis..Recommend

  • Truthseeker
    Feb 6, 2011 - 12:06PM

    Either the whole world is wrong, or Pakistani society has gone berserk.The time has come for Pakistanis to make the distiction.Recommend

  • lkhan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 12:32PM

    It is good to have people such as Ahmed Rashid, Najam Sethi and Munir Attaullah amongst others even if not many, who are covered in papers etc giving good analysis of the socio-political situation in Pakistan; in this case far reaching economic consequences if the GoP does not take harsh though necessary decisions.Recommend

  • parvez
    Feb 6, 2011 - 12:37PM

    This should be told to the people who actually control foreign policy in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Kamran Khan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 12:39PM

    The author says: “The military is obsessed with Afghanistan; I would like to see the political leadership obsessed with Pakistan.” True but not happening anytime soon. We have ‘ghairat’. Who needs money?Recommend

  • J Oberoi
    Feb 6, 2011 - 12:55PM

    This aspect of Pakistan’s global image has been raised by a lot of columnists in the past but the establishment has largely been dismissive. More than the economy and more than terrorism, it is the sovereign image of Pakistan that will take the longest to remedy.
    I guess when the military is allowed to dictate policies to a nation, it will mostly be a belligerent one.

    The mainstream TV media has done Pakistan’s image no favours by airing zealots like Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul to spew their venom openly against the rest of the world. A casual viewer might think that this is the official view. A country cannot be seen as openly aiding and harbouring terrorists without paying a price for it. The Pakistani establishment links to 26/11 and 7/7 will have long-term implications. How can a nation expect to get further aid when the aid meant for flood victims is diverted towards building more nuclear bombs? It defies all logic. The flood victims still await salvation which is not forthcoming.Recommend

  • tamur
    Feb 6, 2011 - 1:01PM

    @all indians
    India has a poverty rate of 43% which is only growing. More poor people live in India than the entire continent of Africa. So stop comparing Pakistan with India, It’s way better than India.

    Pakistan has a problem in 5% of its territory which are the tribal areas, unlike India which has 30% of its land mass afflicted by some form of insurgency. Naxals, Kashmir and North East. Just because no one in the international media really cares about India doesn’t mean it has no problems. There was a 5 hour gunbattle in Jharkand, but that story never made it to the main stream newspapers because no one really cares what happens in India.

    @Rashid
    Terrorism is the smoke screen behind which all the above mentioned countries are hiding. The real issues are the numerous oil pipelines planned across Afghanistan. America, Russia and Iran are all involved in terrorism and are openly funding one extremist to fight another extremist. The fact is that the American/Russian/Iranian backed terrorist are all losing ground to Pakistani backed terrorist. India itself is arming balochis and sending terrorists into Pakistan which has so far failed to create any large scale chaos in the extremely sparsely populated province.

    The recent Chinese visit has hinted at the growing strategic relationship between Pakistan and China, plus the Chinese are too dependent on Pakistan’s intelligence services in the region for their own strategic and economic ends. This relationship could only grow.Recommend

  • Feb 6, 2011 - 2:02PM

    Unfortunately, we are not allowed to settle in some other country but only sink with this ship.

    Subhan BashaRecommend

  • forchandan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 2:16PM

    @tamur…haha….Recommend

  • Amer
    Feb 6, 2011 - 3:21PM

    I respect Ahmed Rashid’s point of view but it’s not all like that…
    The recent visit by the Chinese premier and many other international level projects with Turkey, the US and other countries involved in the energy sector etc is mostly good news. The recent floods in Pakistan should have given a awakening call to the ruling elite that the so call “friends of Pakistan” and the international community won’t dash out huge amounts of money anymore. But we did see alot of ground support mainly from the US and Saudi Arabia.
    Bottom line is that there are points here that are true and some that are not. The govt of Pakistan needs to wake up to the voices of it’s people first and focus on their basic problems which are corruption all over, energy shortages, terrorism and economic growth. Recommend

  • Somdet
    Feb 6, 2011 - 3:23PM

    @ tamur,
    u r right bro on all counts. actually u will be happy to know that the poverty figures of india and rest of the world are much higher than reported. pakistan has no poverty at all.
    Be happy.
    and now u can join one of your defence forums and start preparing for Ghazwa Ul Hind-so many pakis are already preparing and getting ready their speeches to be given from red fort, new delhi.why are u wasting ur precious time on the tribune articles, when there are real issues to be solved on pakistan defence forum.
    cheers.Recommend

  • pl/sql
    Feb 6, 2011 - 3:44PM

    @tamur

    HAHAHA!

    So you think your country is doing better than India?

    How cute!Recommend

  • vasan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 3:46PM

    tamur; enough of jokes please. get serious. Dont compare with India. Compare with yourself in the fifies and sixties.Recommend

  • khan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 6:49PM

    I was present at Karachi Literature Festival on Saturday at the Carlton Hotel when Ahmed Rashid, Pervez Hoodbhoy, Zahid Hussain and Nasim Zehra spoke. The Express Tribune writer has exercised a great degree of unnecessary self-censorship

    Ahmed Rashid repeatedly mentioned the word ‘army’ (and not ‘Pakistan’) for being responsible for its “flawed policy” of “creating the home-grown Taliban” and “supporting militants”.

    Rashid clearly stated that 9/11 should have told our generals that relying on ‘terrorists’ as part of our Kashmir policy was no longer workable. But yet they persisted and now these so-called freedom fighters from Punjab are killing all kinds of Pakistanis, including the military.

    Nasim Zehra, who was also present there, said all her illusions about the Pakistan army were shattered by the idiocy of Kargill. It was then she realised the ‘mediocre mentality’ of our generals, who defied logic, causing the deaths of thousands of soldiers and creating a debacle. (which by the way Musharraf still insists was a victory!)

    It is time our journalists stop pussy footing and reported the truth as was witnessed by others present. Recommend

  • Feb 6, 2011 - 8:28PM

    @ tamur….
    What humour!!!
    The maoist insurgents in india can be pacified with jobs and economic opportunity,but what will it take to satiate the jihadi insurgency in pakistan……..except more religious extremism.
    Think about it for a second.What ur a creating is a cult of a nation, something like north korea.
    I guess one could call this slow suicide…….Recommend

  • kumar
    Feb 6, 2011 - 9:08PM

    @tamur:
    you are not entirely incorrect, indians tend to preen too much here, i noticed. Lots of things wrong in India too.
    But the terrorism in Pak is a deal breaker, regardless of anything else. That is good enough reason for Pak to be broken up so that it won’t be a nuisance or threat to the existence of the world, especially with the nuclear arms, a belligerent uncontrollable military with strong jihadi ties, all very heady stuff.
    Let’s face it – pak is a dangerous country. I know its hard for pak patriots to stomach this, but there it is. And Islam is a dangerous religion and pak is the crest/ultimate islamic experiment.Recommend

  • Jawed Akhtar
    Feb 6, 2011 - 9:16PM

    Mr. Rashid,

    How is listening to you…?????
    I think you are borned in a wrong country..?????
    Pakistan’s conscience is dead…….
    Neither can they think rationally, nor can they do any think about their fate…..Recommend

  • ramin
    Feb 6, 2011 - 9:52PM

    Mr. Rashid,
    Move to India. They need intellectuals like you. U are wasting your time and risking Ur life in Pakistan!Recommend

  • balochfreedom
    Feb 6, 2011 - 10:44PM

    world should pay attention to aspirations of
    balochis and pashtos we want freedom from punjabi
    nation Recommend

  • Akki(India)
    Feb 6, 2011 - 11:14PM

    Likes of Mr. Rashid,Najam, NFP should move to india. we need good journalists. Pak is a lost cause.Recommend

  • Shahzad Khan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 11:27PM

    @vivek ramana:

    I dont think Pakistan needs to follow India at all, if it has to follow any one in today’s world it should be China, but ideally speaking it needs to revert back to the model of Hazrat Umer Farooq (The second caliph of Islam) who followed the true Islamic ideology given by the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) in every sense, and gave such a concept of a well fare state that not a single person accepted charity during his time. He gave that model to the world for the first time, and his empire spread till Euorpe. His policies helped Europe to come out of their dark ages and his policies are taught in universities in the West today as “Umerian policy”. He had a very brave foreign policy unlike Pakistan’s foreign police today who has cowed down before the US, thanks to the corrupt few who are sitting in the govt.he took over the world’s super powers and subdued them one after the other with few men, just because of his high morality and conviction. India too has very serious issues goin on like more than twenty seperatist movements goin on in the country and with US and its puppet govt. loosing the war in Afghanistan to Taliban who are pro Pakistan will leave India high and dry in Afghanistan. Corruption is a key issue in India aswell and it faces a major threat from China in the region, to top it all economically.
    Our issues will be resolved inshallah when Imran Khan will come into power.Recommend

  • Arifq
    Feb 6, 2011 - 11:37PM

    Ahmed Rashid for President and chief of Army staff, that should solve the problemRecommend

  • Shahzad Khan
    Feb 6, 2011 - 11:47PM

    @kumar:
    Before commenting on Islam, first go and read about it you ignorant and illeterate man, you should know that when prophet Mohammad (Pbuh) conquered Makkah he forgave every single person and it has been the only war in the world so far where not a single drop of blood was spilt, and showed such kindness even to the worst of enemies that they embraced Islam them selves, and u call Islam a dangerous religion. When Muhammad bin Qasim conquered India he should such kindness and justice to Hindus that a huge hindu population converted to Islam, and all the hindus were crying holding his feet when he left India. He gave equal staus and freedom even to your Shudras who were meeting cruel treatment from your Brahmans at that time. Islam only professes peace, love and equality, and we should respect all religions in the world. It is very shallow to talk bad about other religions, like I would never talk rubbish about hinduism or Christianity, e.t.cRecommend

  • Shahzad Khan
    Feb 7, 2011 - 12:02AM

    @tamur:

    Excellent analysis about the whole situation Taimur, Inshallah we will rise and shine soon.
    Actually all this media projection of Pakistan as a terrorist nation and a failed state is part of a policy being followed by the world powers as they take Pakistan as a potential threat to them. They will never say any thing to India even if they burn 3000 muslims alive and demolish the Babri mosque. They know what Pakistanis could do as a nation, and how strong we stand despite all the crises. They know we are a nation which ruled India for seven centuries. PAKISTAN ZINDABADRecommend

  • Shahzad Khan
    Feb 7, 2011 - 12:04AM

    @ramin:
    Defeatest mentality girl, i am sorry to say, we will save Pakistan inshallah and I will save Pakistan inshallah.Recommend

  • Shahzad Khan
    Feb 7, 2011 - 12:12AM

    @Somdet:

    Dont take the ghazwa-e-hind as a joke my friend, never forget your history, we ruled you for seven centuries, and as the saying goes history repeats itself. We will rise and shine again inshallah.Recommend

  • Shahzad Khan
    Feb 7, 2011 - 12:21AM

    @kumar:

    Mr Kumar what jihadi jihadi, terrorisim, and e.t.c, how in your life would you ever justify Indian terrorism of burning alive 3000 muslims in Gujrat and demolishing the Babri masjid, massive human rights violation in Kashmir (a purely muslim state) by seven hundred thousand indian army. Pakistan has never had such terrorism against the minorities in its history. Before labelling others as terrorist first look at your own selves, and stop copying the US terminology of terorism please, every educated person knows its a war of terrorism by the US against the Islamic world rather than a war on terrorism.Recommend

  • BSP
    Feb 7, 2011 - 2:33AM

    My humble advise to some of the Indian posters on this forum who are taking a defensive approach whenever a Pakistani poster writes something negative about India. Please stick to valid, respectful and logical arguments and present counter views. Don’t engage in tit-for-tat attacks or boasts. No need to beat your chest about India as the rising power and is better than Pakistan etc. When you do that, you come across as being very childish.Recommend

  • Abbas Khan
    Feb 7, 2011 - 2:51AM

    Dear Tamur, Your statistics regarding India are not wrong and your view is also correct that world and Indian media is hiding seperation movements and lawlessness in India. The mainstrean Indian media is more focussed on Cricket and Bollywood than those movements and other burning issues, but there is hell lot of difference between hiding and agreeing. Pakistan’s mainstream media especially Urdu media has become a very strong propaganda tool for terrorists and anti state elements. More than ninety percent of articles and tv shows support extremist ideology. Those who had been sitting at very high positions, especially retired generals are misguiding nation with their stupid theories, and media is projecting these theories. Indian media could be hiding facts, but they are not spreading sympathy for terrorists and extremists.Recommend

  • amjad
    Feb 7, 2011 - 3:16AM

    It is still not too late get on the right track. Clean up the country of all those factors, which have put Pakistan on the path of isolation and self-destruction.Recommend

  • Feb 7, 2011 - 6:37AM

    reasoning is completely gone in pakistan, mullahfication of the mind has run rampantRecommend

  • Saira
    Feb 7, 2011 - 6:58AM

    Indians really need to get a life and stop being obsessed about Pakistan. We all know the ill intentions Indians have for Pakistan so do you Indians honestly think we will listen to you? Please Indians get a life and stop being obsessed about Pakistan. We Pakistanis dont want anything to do with you.Recommend

  • Anoop
    Feb 7, 2011 - 7:44AM

    I’d listen to this guy if I were you. White House bought 300 copies of his books the very day after 9/11. He gets invites from all the major think tanks and Governments(especially NATO countries) to speak on the subject of Af-Pak.

    1) He had predicted Taliban will become a nuisance way back before the 9/11 happened.
    2) He had predicted financial mess and massive political instability in Pakistan. It happened.

    Now, he is predicting now Pakistan’s isolation.

    He is not such a huge player in Journalism in Pakistan because his views are hard hitting and not something an average Pakistani can reconcile to.

    If you want to read him, goto his website where you will find tonnes of material he has written over the ages and it reads like a Nostradamus like documents.

    Every bad thing he has predicted for Pakistan has come true!Recommend

  • porjosh
    Feb 7, 2011 - 3:28PM

    The region’s problems will be resolved if Pakistani military abandons its crazy obsession of controlling Afghanistan. I wish isolation were the only problem that Pakistan is reaping. Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Feb 7, 2011 - 7:24PM

    @Shahzad Khan:
    “Dont take the ghazwa-e-hind as a joke my friend, never forget your history, we ruled you for seven centuries, and as the saying goes history repeats itself. We will rise and shine again inshallah.”
    Do yourself a favour. Open your eyes man. BTW what makes you think only you can understand Islam and others cannot have their own understanding? Recommend

  • Arshad Khan (India)
    Feb 7, 2011 - 11:11PM

    Shahzad Khan said::– “Dont take the ghazwa-e-hind as a joke my friend, never forget your history, we ruled you for seven centuries, and as the saying goes history repeats itself. We will rise and shine again inshallah.”

    You’re right. History repeats itself. India was the most prosperous land in the world for more than three millennia even before Islam was born. So yeah, history will repeat.Recommend

  • Ehsan
    Feb 7, 2011 - 11:34PM

    shahzad and tamur…guys .. don’t get depressed but instead do something useful instead of living in self denialRecommend

  • Indian Abroad
    Feb 8, 2011 - 4:17AM

    Look guys, we’re all in this together. India and Pakistan are in the same neighborhood. Imagine if we thought of ourselves like the US and Canada. Canada is much smaller than the US (in population, not land area) and shares a very long border with the US.

    Canada and the US could hate each other and meddle in each others affairs or they could both focus on economic development which is what they have done.

    Perhaps our parents’ or grandparents’ generations wanted to reunify and had awful memories of Partition (on both sides of the border) but our generation needs to focus on the future and let the past be water under the bridge.

    As an Indian, all I can say is while both of our countries have crazy people, we’ve done a better job of muzzling them. In India, the crazies do awful things at times but we in our often slow democratic process take care of them and make it clear we will not stand for them. In Pakistan, the intelligent and open-minded people seem to be suffering at the hands of the idiots and crazies.

    I and all my Indian brothers and sisters should hope nothing more than for Pakistan to be a peaceful, economically developed, and successful nation. Then we can get riled up about playing each other in cricket and seeing how our companies compete on the global playing field.

    Good luck my Pakistani brothers and sisters in your fight against the extremists. We want you to win. Recommend

  • Saira
    Feb 8, 2011 - 4:30AM

    Since 9/11 Pakistan has become the slave of America and went out of its way to fight America’s war. Pakistan didnt get anything in return. Pakistan is worse off today than 10 years ago under U.S. sanctions. Global isolation is better than letting your own people being killed by U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan.

    By the way, China is not upset with Pakistan. China told U.S. that Pakistan is to China what Israel is to the U.S.Recommend

  • Achmed
    Feb 8, 2011 - 4:41AM

    Ahmed Rashid is a well known CIA agent. He was the key adviser to Bush on the “war of terror”. This is just a conspiracy by CIA and Obama to arm twist Pakistan to release Raymond Davis. As a proud Pakistan citizen, I dare say we dont need the help of the world. China our true and deepest friend is always there for us and so is Saudi Arab. If we have these two, Paksitan can rule the world!!
    Paksitan Zindabad!
    -Achmed KRecommend

  • Ikram
    Feb 8, 2011 - 12:39PM

    @Shahzad Khan:

    Shahzad, Tamur & likes of such pakis, dear keep patting on the back of this nation & make them beleive they won’t go down the ravine. Let the nation sleep please!!!!!!!!!! so that reality better comes today and not tomorrow. Such kind of people do not want to accept reality and mistakes committed in the past. What a pity……………Recommend

  • vasan
    Feb 8, 2011 - 2:38PM

    Achmed: If u dont need the help of the world, it will be wrong for u to accept anything from China and Saudi arabia. There is saying in english “To know about someone, learn about his friends”. Thanks for highlighting ur friends
    Saira: U are wrong in that Pakistan has been a slave of US from 1947 and became worse during Zia era: IT is not enough if u can write “Friends but not master” , u must also practice.Recommend

  • kamaal
    Feb 8, 2011 - 7:49PM

    Yaar Tamur..You better worry about Pakistan…Pakistan is standing in front of world with begging bowl in its hands…Recommend

  • Somdet
    Feb 8, 2011 - 10:51PM

    @Shahzad Khan:
    “Dont take the ghazwa-e-hind as a joke my friend, never forget your history, we ruled you for seven centuries, and as the saying goes history repeats itself. We will rise and shine again inshallah.”

    Dear Shahzad, currently there is Ghazwa-e-Pakistan going on by “Only Yours Friendly Taliban”.
    If and when you are free from them, inform us. Till then – Ciao.
    Recommend

  • Cautious
    Feb 9, 2011 - 6:53AM

    Good article. Can anyone point to a single bona fide ally of Pakistan? Your viewed as an unstable 3rd world country run by perennial corrupt politicians who kowtow to religious extremist. Nexus of Terrorism is an appropriate label – something that Pakistan has done little to change.Recommend

  • Hanif Awan 831682 831682
    Feb 9, 2011 - 10:41AM

    Jamaat e islami n. Jamiat ulma e (HIND)Pakistan will keep on trying to prove their ELDERS that Pakistan was created wrongly by QUID E AZAM MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH.All is going according to their PLANS , But I believe that the people of PAKISTAN will never allow them to do this BLUNDER with our beloved COUNTRY.It is all being done under the umbrella the RELIGION.ALMIGHTY ALLAH may save us from these ODDS.The people of PAKISTAN have to take care of this in a proper n positive manner.Recommend

  • Feb 9, 2011 - 1:48PM

    Only this one sentencce summerize the whole situation and can solve all the current day problems “The Military is obsessed with Afghanistan, I would like to see the government Obsessed with Pakistan”.Recommend

  • Arif
    Feb 9, 2011 - 8:28PM

    My parents are Pakistani, I am an American, I have Indian and Pakistani friends. There is deep mistrust embedded on each side. There are a few that try and rise above that and think constructively… it does not come naturally.

    First think what good can you do as a person, then as a community, then as a nation.

    I do not agree with many of the writer’s views, (nor his so called predictions that were made after the events actually transpired) but I do agree with him that Pakistan is being isolated, and while we are quick to blame others, we do nothing to prove it wrong. How many times has Pakistan or Pakistanis been linked with helping out their neighbors or other poor countries? How many times have we projected goodwill unto others? Isn’t that what the Prophet (saw) would do? Would he agree to spill blood so easily to combat the ills of society? To satisfy his lust for vengeance or would he do something constructive?

    Guys, stop dreaming about conquering the world, and start thinking about how can you clean your own home, your own street, your own community… Conquering the world is not your salvation… Do good and feel good, don’t worry about the hatred some Indians spew, for there are many that will stand shoulder to shoulder and help. Do not let evil dictate your behaviour, rise above these animalistic instincts and think what we should be doing.

    Excellent is painful… no one is saying it will be easy, but you all know what needs to be done. Start from your own backyard, elect good people to office, not the persecutors. Our leaders are a reflection of what we are, lets better ourselves… that my friends is our true calling.

    Peace to all !!!Recommend

  • Arfan
    Feb 10, 2011 - 2:56PM

    @Arshad Khan (India):

    LOL – India is a figment of the british imperialist administration and doctrine!

    ‘India’ NEVER existed before the british came, so please, as regards the 3 millenia statement, please check the map, you’ll see the places you are referring to are actually in Pakistan – so by your criteria, then it was Pakistan that existed before India!

    I mean the name India is a derivative of OUR river (Indus), so please your argument is off topic and we should take focussed else we end up witha nother India thia/that, Pakistan this/that…

    As regards Ahmed Rashid – we all know where his loyalties lie… Recommend

  • Manoj
    Feb 10, 2011 - 3:24PM

    @Arfan:

    I am not an expert of History but I know, India was there as Mouryan Empire, as Mughal Empire and as British empire.

    Probelm is that muslims of Pakistan do not want to recognize the fact that they are basically Indian Hindu and have converted to Islam.

    Let us all be proud of our culture, heritage and race. India and Indianess is the common identity of the people of Afganistan, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh.

    We may not leave together, just as bothers divides the joint family to acheive the invidual aspiration, but they remain brothers.

    We are three independent nations but have common history and blood.Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Feb 10, 2011 - 3:29PM

    @Arfan:
    How true. Its our river. Its just that now its in your country.Recommend

  • Sonu
    Feb 10, 2011 - 3:38PM

    @Arfan:
    Obviously i am not surprised you have little knowledge of history.You would never heard of Chandragupta Maurya,Ashoka,Samudragupta.It would be great if you say you are son of Sindhu (In Persian term Hindu) Recommend

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