Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo explain the viral 'holding space' interview moment

Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo finally open up about the viral ‘holding space’ moment from their recent interview.


Pop Culture & Art December 07, 2024
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Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo are clearing the air about the viral "holding space" moment from their recent interview.

In an exclusive chat alongside Wicked director Jon M. Chu, the actresses explained their reaction to a seemingly cryptic question posed by journalist Tracy Gilchrist during a junket for the musical.

The question, which asked about the empowering lyrics of “Defying Gravity” and the act of "holding space," caught both actresses off guard. Erivo, visibly moved, responded emotionally, while Grande awkwardly clasped Erivo’s finger. The moment quickly turned into a meme, sparking widespread discussion online.

Reflecting on the situation, Erivo admitted that she didn’t fully understand what "holding space" meant at the time, especially in the context of queer media. Grande, too, confessed she didn’t grasp the meaning of the term, but felt compelled to offer support in that moment. "I didn’t know what any part of it meant," Grande shared, acknowledging the confusion.

The actresses later learned that "holding space" refers to being emotionally and mentally present with someone in a meaningful way, a concept inspired by powerful moments like those in Defying Gravity. While the interview left both stars feeling uncertain, they now see it as a source of fun and relief, with Erivo even wanting a T-shirt emblazoned with the phrase.

The viral moment has resonated with many, becoming part of the cultural vernacular. As Grande shared, "That’s when you knew it was something — when the next day, Evan Ross Katz texted me and was like ‘Do you want this shirt? I got two for you.'" The stars are now embracing the unexpected popularity of their awkward, yet endearing moment.

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