Indonesia rejects outrage over anti-Ahmadi mob sentences

Published: July 29, 2011
Indonesia policemen block Muslim supporters who are rallying in support for their friend, who was accused of assault on a Ahmadiyah follower, in Serang, Indonesia's Banten province July 28, 2011. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE

Indonesia policemen block Muslim supporters who are rallying in support for their friend, who was accused of assault on a Ahmadiyah follower, in Serang, Indonesia's Banten province July 28, 2011. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE

JAKARTA: Indonesia on Friday dismissed expressions of outrage and disbelief over the perceived light sentences handed down to extremists who killed three minority sect members in a mob frenzy.

(Read: Indonesian court lets anti-Ahmadi mob perpetrators off ‘lightly’)

The United States and the European Union expressed strong misgivings while local rights groups and international watchdogs issued strong condemnations and calls for action to address rising intolerance in the mainly Muslim country.

But religious affairs ministry spokesman Zubaidi said the sentences of three to six months for the men accused of leading the murderous assault on the Ahmadiyah sect members in February were the result of a fair trial.

“As an executive body, we cannot interfere in the legal system. We believe in the law enforcers. They have the right to come up with the sentences,” he told AFP.

“Whether the sentences are light or harsh, how it’s perceived is relative.”

Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, often held up by the United States and others as a champion of pluralism and democracy, made no comment on the sentences. Foreign ministry officials were unavailable to comment.

Human rights activists said prosecutors and the court in Serang, which handed down the verdicts, had been influenced by local Islamic leaders to play down the gravity of the crime.

They say religious violence against minorities is going unchecked in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim-majority country, and criticise Yudhoyono for failing to defend the nation’s pluralist, moderate traditions.

But Zubaidi said the court was independent and its decisions could not be questioned.

“I don’t see that there has been any pressures from anyone. On the matter of intervention, I believe there was none,” he said.

The violence against the Ahmadiyah sect members in Cikeusik, western Java, was one of the most horrific in a long line of attacks on the minority group in Indonesia in recent years.

A secretly filmed video of the Cikeusik rampage sparked international concern when it appeared online within days of the attack.

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Reader Comments (18)

  • shazada Malik-Loan
    Jul 29, 2011 - 12:50PM

    The so called Ahmediya are renegade spies and supporters of Western interests trying to weaken the Indonesian nation – we need to look at the division of the Sudan. The sudan was quietly disintegrated because it was the largest Muslim country in Africa, we also must not forget East Timor – wrenched asunder by the Western powers to protect and promote white Australia as the super power in Asia – along with Hindustan. The Human Rights groups dominated by the Hindu-Zionist unholy alliance are silent on Kashmir, Gaza and Bosnia. The question is why? The answer is simple – they don’t want any Muslim country emerging to challenge the Zionist-Hindu-Fundamental-Christian Alliance. That is the reason why they have destablised Pakistan.


  • Waseem
    Jul 29, 2011 - 5:53PM

    Taking 1000 people from the town towards someones house/mosque then start throwing rocks and knives inside the house, if the owner or the people of the house come out and start telling you to go away you kill them with the most horrific way and then beat the dead bodies one by one untill you are fully satisfied. This might be a the most barbaric attack in some places where you will not be allowed to watch the video of this attack. But in Indonesia it will get you in jail for 3 months only. Way to go the justice system of indonesia. The cruelty is also in the judges now because i see them guilty of the same crime he was charged of because he has told the indonesians that if you kill an ahmadis you get 3-6mth in prision only.
    I mean theft even has tougher sentence


  • PakPatriot
    Jul 29, 2011 - 6:23PM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:

    Pakistanis ofcourse dont have ANYTHING to do with the instability in our country. Its all those Zionist Hindus Christians running around. Thanks for opening my eyes!


  • MRobs
    Jul 29, 2011 - 6:27PM

    Muslim countries are incapable of emerging with anything due to the fact that they can’t emerge from thier 7th century mindset.


  • Indian
    Jul 29, 2011 - 6:38PM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:
    So this proves that the Hindu-Zionist-Christian alliance is stronger than the Muslim Ummah, we managed to cut you in half, Liberated South Sudan and East Timor from “Muslim” Sudan and Indonesia. My Malik, i would suggest , keep your eyes open 24 * 7 , who knows we might “split” you too :) :)


  • Waseem
    Jul 29, 2011 - 6:57PM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:
    You know its better to come out with proof and then claim these things because without them it just makes no sense and proves you to be a liar.. A lie after a lie will give you what you have in Pakistan right now, it gives you corruption, intolerance, hatred, no civil rights, no humantarian rights. Who destablized Pakistan, its people like you who did it, the mullah’s who Hazoor pbuh said are the worst creatures on earth destablized it and are still doing it.
    You call us that we don’t want any muslim country to emerge, while you go to USA and beg for loan because Saudia will not give you loan, you go to France to buy your weapons and ask for loan, you go to England and ask for log, you think China is you best friend who are actually mushrikeens. No idea what is going on in your house and your pointing fingers at others.. how much is your cut of that money you receive from USA/China/England/France? because you aer doing the same thing you are spreading hatred. something that hazoor pbuh came to take away but you going against Hazoor pbuh brought it in your self and in Pakistan.Recommend

  • T R Khan
    Jul 29, 2011 - 7:23PM

    Lynching Ahmadies was a crime as determined by the Indonesian courts. The question is the sentence?
    Ahmadies are loyal to each country they live in, as required by Islam.


  • woohoo
    Jul 29, 2011 - 7:40PM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:
    Assalamu-alaikum brother. I want to say that you are the sharpest, best and are the pride of the ummah!!


  • mark
    Jul 29, 2011 - 8:23PM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:

    its funny that all the woes of Muslim countries that you point out has nothing to do with Ahmadi Muslims but those Muslims that lead by brutality and are addicted to power and commit atrocious abuses in order to maintain that power breaking all the rules of being Muslim

    murder is murder, Islam has stated that there is no compulsion in religion so what faith do you follow obviously not Islam.

    second show me the punishment decreed in the holy Quran for Blasphemy ? there is none

    let Allah be the judge and stop committing acts of shirk when you start to assume so much then act out of the order of Mankind


  • R A
    Jul 29, 2011 - 8:27PM

    Only a Shahzada can have such a wonderful
    nightmarish imagination.
    I wonder why Qaid e Azam did not se what
    Loan Sb. has seen with his closed (or blind)
    If there is any truth in what he has said
    why no Muslim country has ever taken
    them to courts to prove and punish them
    I never understand why Mullas and those
    who blindly follow them are so scared of
    Perhapse it is that they are just like the
    opponants of the companions of
    Holy Prophet of Islam (S A W S)

  • Jameel
    Jul 29, 2011 - 9:38PM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:

    The so called Ahmediya are renegade
    spies and supporters of Western
    interests trying to weaken the
    Indonesian nation –

    Really? Why is no Ahmadi put to trial for such crimes in Indonesia if this is indeed the case? What a bunch of lies.

    Its obvious that you are one of those fanatics who would both lie and support violence to further your unjust cause. Blaming your victims isn’t the best way to promote your ideology.Recommend

  • Jul 29, 2011 - 9:47PM

    Our prophet (SAW) never encouraged any killings or attrocities against any other race, religion or colour , And what have Ahmadi’s done, they say same Kalimah, Same Quran, Same Namaz, believe Propht Muhammad (SAW) as last prophet, it’s just they say Mujadad’s come in every century, well we believe in that don’t we?
    Just clear your minds please.
    Thank you


  • Basit S. Abdali
    Jul 29, 2011 - 11:11PM

    My best friend who has been with me since the second grade is an ahmadi. Being kids, we never realised there were so many ‘species’ of muslims, and recited the same kalimah, learnt the same namaz and believed in the FINALITY of the same Prophet Muhammad PBUH as mentioned in ‘LA ILLAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMADURASOOL ALLAH’.
    the first time I heard the term ‘ahmadi’ was when once I asked him why at his grandfather’s burial neither petals nor a ‘chaadar’ was used. He just replied that it is not a part of Islam but a biddat (a custom performed that has nothing to do with Islam but taken from other cultures and religions) and his family being an Ahmadi one doesn’t follow biddats.
    Had I not known him and his entire family and their beliefs since childhood, I might have been a victim of the brainwashing that molvis do by their sermons that scream nothing but hatred and an utter lack of fear of God’s wrath.

    Such molvis, apart from fantasizing about the ‘hoors’ they’ll get in turn for declaring the same Kalimah reciting believers as wajibulqatal, have nothing else to do but to split the Muslims around the world. Given a chance, they won’t even hesitate to split the 73 sects further into 146! May God guide us all into being united under the Kalma Tayyaba before we are crushed by the power of non’muslim superpowers as a punishment from Allah to our Ummah for fragmenting Islam relentlessly and not being true to His commands as per the Quran. SURAH al Kahaf gives a clear prophecy of such a punishment.Recommend

  • Cautious
    Jul 30, 2011 - 12:28AM

    One thing for sure — you won’t hear a peep out of any Muslim countries — there is an unwritten code that no matter how bad the atrocity if it’s committed by a Muslim you remain quiet.


  • Nestor James
    Jul 30, 2011 - 3:35AM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:

    “Zionist/Hindu/Fundamentalist Christian alliance”, eh? This isn’t a creative writing class, you know. You aren’t supposed to just make stuff up off the top of your head because it sounds interesting and backs up your personal bias.
    So, I take it you agree with what these murdering cowards did?


  • shafiq
    Jul 30, 2011 - 4:34PM

    i have only one question to all who are so called Muslims,who in the world give you the authority to issue such verdicts like who is Muslim who is not ,are these so called Muslims blind can`t read the holly Qur’an clearly says these are the boundaries of God almighty ,God alone has the power to judge who is wrong and who is rt,please stop and listen the Warner and save your self from the tornament of hell fire,you will die your children will die too none will succeed to destroy the messanger of God,the mighty ,the wise the all knowing,Allah says in holly quran allah and his messangers will succeed to over power their enemies,chek the history who before in past failed that this messanger will fail ,seed is sowed by his hand this will grow and spread all over the world and no one dare to retard it (inshaAllah)the promissed messiah has come i invite all to join his jamaat and start over by repenting the sinnes from the past.


  • Karachi Guy
    Jul 31, 2011 - 6:44AM

    @shazada Malik-Loan:
    So you say it is fair to break the head of anyone who has a different voice/opinion as it happened in this case?


  • Vicram Singh
    Jul 31, 2011 - 10:40AM

    Indonesia and Malaysia are no longer the modern dynamic open Muslim nations they are touted as. Sectarianism is brimming in these countries – and unfortunately – taalibs from these countries who studied in Pakistan are being “credited” for import of sectarianism.


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