Inspired by his fiery rhetoric, for four days the Maulana’s youthful Lashkar-e-Qadri had occupied D-Chowk, Islamabad’s version of Tahrir Square. The cheering, chanting, flag-waving crowd was joyous at the verdict ordering the arrest of Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf. The precise timing owed to another one of Pakistan’s putative saviours — the honourable Chief Justice of Pakistan.
In this age of discontent, assorted demagogues have mastered the art of mobilising the credulous masses. Corruption, say the Maulana and the Cricketer, is Pakistan’s central problem. Utopia will come if honest and pious men — perhaps themselves — are in power. But is crookedness and dishonesty the real issue? Countries which are perfectly viable and livable may still have corrupt governments.
Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has been convicted of everything from tax fraud to soliciting minors for sex, and yet Italy keeps getting richer and better. No one dares call it a failed state. Mitt Romney — who Barack Obama only barely defeated — parked his assets in the Cayman Islands and paid only a little more tax than Pakistan’s unscrupulous parliamentarians. Corruption in the US is institutionalised to the point that Washington spent 10 trillion dollars of taxpayer money bailing out banks and corporations but no politician or CEO (with one exception) ended up behind the bars. Interestingly, according to the 2012 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI), 70 per cent of the world’s people see their countries as more corrupt than good.
So then, what are Pakistan’s real problems today? If the lives of Pakistanis are to be improved, what is it that really needs to be done?
First, address the population problem. Demographers estimate the expected number of Pakistanis in 2030 at a staggering 258 million, which must be compared with 28 million in 1947 as well as the current population of 180 million. This growth is the second highest among major Muslim countries in the world.
Even if we miraculously acquire the most perfect of political systems, it may be impossible to provide most Pakistanis with employment, education, food, housing, electricity, water, and a clean environment. Short of renting another planet, there is no way that the constraints of fixed land and water can be overcome.
This emergency situation demands that population planning must be reinstated and contraceptives be made freely available. Once upon a time, Pakistan had a population planning organisation. But it has essentially folded up in the face of religious opposition. The Jamaat-e-Islami’s party manifesto, and those of other religious parties, specifically forbids family planning. As for the Taliban: they suspect that polio vaccines are designed to reduce Muslim fertility and so have issued dire threats. Last month, the TTP brought the immunisation programme to a halt by murdering five women and a man who were administering the shots in Karachi. So, instead of getting claps and cheers, our messiahs might have to face bullets and bombs should they dare to rally people around this real issue.
Second, the terrorism of religious militias must be confronted head-on. Their daily slaughter of Pakistani soldiers and citizens, and recently the Hazara Shias, elicits only the barest whimper of protest in the media or the public. In shameful surrender, there is talk of negotiating with terrorist groups. The lesson of Swat — where kowtowing to Sufi Mohammed’s ever-escalating demands led to increased ferocity from the other side — is forgotten. The army and the state stand in muddled confusion. They know they should actually negotiate only from a position of strength and not in their present condition of weakness. Unfortunately they cannot summon the courage to do this. The Maulana is silent on this critical matter, but the Cricketer prefers to attack those who might target Pakistan’s enemies. He would rather shoot at the drones than the terrorists.
Third, the promise of the messiahs that they shall bring prosperity to everyone by somehow equalising the distribution of wealth is fake and dishonest, and un-implementable. One would certainly welcome extending the tax net, and doing so would be a huge achievement. But to actually bring prosperity, wealth must be created rather than simply expropriated from somewhere. The only party that seems to give this any consideration is the PML-N. But industrial progress and a post-agricultural economy require cultural change, and so Pakistani society will need to transition from being a progress-unfriendly culture to one that welcomes and promotes progress. From the time of the 19th century German sociologist Max Weber, social scientists have observed that culture and progress go hand-in-hand. Progress-friendly cultures demand planning, punctuality, deferred gratification, belief in rationality, and the rule of law. Without acquiring these features, wealth generation is slow and uncertain.
Fortunately, as it turned out, the ‘million-man march’ turned out to be a damp squib. Its victory would have resulted in indefinite postponement of the forthcoming national elections and Pakistan would have returned to a dreary tradition where no government has successfully completed its term in office. During the occupation, messiah-junior was caught in a dilemma. Eclipsed by his senior and unable to join in the demand for postponement, he now seeks to clamber his way back into the public eye.
Pakistan’s restless young are out on the streets demanding change, but they must not become pawns of fake messiahs. The fist-shaking, rostrum-pounding orations of Maulana Qadri and Cricketer Khan are empty thunder; they offer nothing real. Of course, the D-Chowk youth rightly protested Pakistan’s pseudo-democracy and its venal and incompetent civilian leaders. But the military’s attempt to landscape national politics — which is probably what rocketed the Maulana into his present prominence — could be disastrous and would go the way of the army’s past failed interventions. At a time when Pakistan is seriously threatened by internal terror, the military would do well to perform its real duty which is that of protecting Pakistan’s people.
Published in The Express Tribune, January 19th, 2013.
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Thanks for pointing out that the TWO are not on the right path and also thanks for not pointing who else is. Thus problems are there with no solution. We all are wasting time and resources(?) to achieve nothing!
Judging by the comments you are too intelligent to be educating these ignoramus. Better to let them wallow in their own stupidity.
BTW you are 100% correct.
@a Democrate: You are off mark buddy. Please stop looking for messiahs. Writer is right. These false messiahs are promising the moon. All ways remember the worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship.
Poverty perveils as long world weath is in the hand of 2% of total world population. There is no shortage of food and resources to do productive work to stable any country. As long Mslims aint giving proper zakat of their total wealth every year ppl will die of hunger.
Could you be kind and let the youth know who to follow and see as their leader, a savior ?
excellent article .solution for problems .but pml -n has no potential to meet the challenges.
The writer wrote this article without any reasonable logic and evidence. its poitless .baseless and hence useless
all those agreeing with Mr.Hoodbhoy should vote for zardari once more and have fun over next 5 years while Pakistan is doomed!
Population is a very subjective issue ! other two issues are only becuase of corruption either financial or moral ! Imran khan is the hope right now for millions of youth !!! We are educated, aware and have courage to change Pakistan ! sorry to say your generation's thinking, attitute, ideals, fear all are obsolete ! You can criticize from any to everyone but that doesn't change the fact that our politicians are looters no. 1.
Hoodbhoy has very realistically and rightly pointed out that Quadri and Imran cannot deliver on their promises. But he has not only offered no real solution to our fast ballooning problems, he has failed to condemn the unbridled corruption of the current leaders. On the contrary, he seems to imply that corruption is alright, and nothing can be done about it, comparing it with the misdeeds of Berlusconi and the bailout of the American financial system by the US government. Both these comparisons are untenable. In the case of the US, the bailout is a systemic phenomenon of the capitalist system that prevails there. In Pakistan, it is different. The current crop of leaders are incorrigibly corrupt. They have been indulging in corruption out of their insatiable greed and they have no serious intention of controlling either their acquisition instincts or the religious terrorism that threatens the very foundations of the country. Quadri and Imran may not qualify as messiahs, but at least their talk of change gives hope that politics can move forward in the right direction. Nobody supports military takeovers, but if non-serious, corrupt, incompetent governments like these survive in the name of democracy, it is only the people of Pakistan who lose. He is right, however, in his condemnation of Imran's rather sympathetic view of the militants. Quadri succeeded in attracting large crowd simply because he talked of reformation, strict implementation of the constitution. condemnation of the Taliban insurgency and so on. Cultural change that Hoodbhoy speaks about would come automatically when the people understand that corruption, incompetence and religious militancy are maladies that must be reduced or eliminated.
MIT alumni have formed 25,800 companies, employing more than 3 million people. These firms generate global revenues of more than $1.9 Trillion a year. If MIT was a country, it would have the 11th highest GDP of any nation in the world.
Whereas Pakistani Professors (just like Pervez Hoodbhoy) and the universities have single-handedly screwed the fate of Pakistan and that is what Lord Macaulay envisioned 160 years ago for Indo-Pak.
Punching Note :-
Pervez Hoodbhoy has studies from MIT.
There is a big difference in 'sitting in your office' and writing about something and going in the field, listen to what people feels and say. Population can only be controlled to some extent and is not that big problem as corruption lawlessness is. So please don't misguide who follow you. you disappoint us today. You don't have good words for any one, ARE YOU BORN TO CRITICIZE ONLY ?
Everything needed to be said against the writer has already been said, so I'm just gonna say......INQALAAB!
My Article; Official reply to Prof. Pervez Hoodbhoy
"Its easier said than done... but change will come. Dr. Qadri is a Hero."
Please read.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/109286564539317093861/posts/CEgN6jngbPA
I didnt know Dr Hoodbhoy like the current PML and PPP so much and he still thinks they have the only right to govern, cricketer and qadri should mind own business! on same basis as a physicist you should be doing what you are best at. How could a tax avoidance of Obama makes him corrupt? Evasion is crime! You are right people personality doesnt count towards a country governance, but only if the correct systems are in place first! very same reason a person like bush junior lead US. In order to start somewhere, we have to opt for a person who is sincere with nation who bring a sincere team to run the country, appoint only good governance team to plan and implement. this will set foundations for a better Pakistan, where people like can thrive in their field and make input towards betterment.
So we do need a change from the past. If zardari had real change of heart, he can also turn around the country by installing a good government - if it was possible, we werent here want to change!
Corruption is the symptom of the disease called as Socio-Economic Inequality that exists everywhere though in various degrees, from least to highest one. Why do Norwegians not tend to settle in another country while Pakistanis wish to settle everywhere except in Pakistan? The answer is up to you to decipher, my friends. Best, Shoaib-
Dear Sir! If you know how to do it right, than why don't you make a political party and make sure to do that is right for Pakistan at this moment. Or you are also an empty thunder.....easy to criticize than act....come on ..what are you waiting for...
It is a thought-provoking article.
Dear Hoodbhoy All fine but you are short in your analysis on addressing the issues of Pakistan's economic salvation. Population growth is an issue but it will not be solved through policies and people hardly listen Maulanas for not having more children. Its the income level which matters and most of the Gulf countries have fertility rate far less than Pakistan. If income increase, people starts thinking in terms of welfare of their children in terms of education, health and recreation. Moreover, economy is more complex than a rocket science. People talk a lot about corruption but its an indicator of bad governance. I shall strongly recommend you to read Planning Commission New Growth Framework document. We need to have creative cities, creative politicians, creative bureaucrats, creative academia, creative work culture etc for moving in the right direction.
I FULLY AGREE YOUR STANCE ON CJ AND IK
yawn my vote for IK
Dear Sir, What you have said is correct but you have forgotten to mention who is right choice for us who should we vote for if it is PML-N, MQM,PPP,ANP,PML-Q than i would disagree with you as i dont want to waste my vote again by voting for the same old parties who have destroyed Pakistan sure PTI is not perfect but they are the better than these old parties who came in power 2 or 3 times each but have done nothing. I believe PTI deserve a chance.
Brilliant! Really you think that by controlling population you can actually solve it... may be on some other planet there is another country where your solution can work. Don't you know how wealth is centred in few hands in Pakistan and the difference between elite and deprived is on the rise and you believe that it's due to growing population!!! JI, IK and Molana Qadri also wanted to end corruption in the society.. can you give our readers the figures, with unlimited 0s, about how much we lose in economy due to corruption. And it was a great insight that you didn't mention any feudalism in your note.. that's not our problem.. Right!
It is appropriate article in given situation of Pakistani politics.
@Riaz Haq: This person who calls himself an 'Alam' made basic mistakes; he lied, which is a kabeera sin, by breaking the agreement. He did not have to go to D square; he distorted the name Rahman into Shaitaan because Rahman Malik exposed his alleged faults and lies. What kind of an Alam is he, I think he is lower than an ordinary man!!.
Somebody whose basic character is unpleasant and false, like other politicians, should be ignored instead of increasing one more into the family of politicians. He lies, he contradicts himself and sits in comfort while the rest of the poor people stay outside to bear the brunt of the cold weather! Please GO BACK.
""Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has been convicted of everything from tax fraud to soliciting minors for sex, and yet Italy keeps getting richer and better.""
Stopped reading after this assertion... you must be joking.
Until now I thought you knew some stuff. But not anymore. Unbelieveable!.. Italy keeps getting richer? Do you read any news? Italy defaulting has been big for the past one year... PML-N most likely savior? Have you been living in Pakistan for the past 5 years? Do you want more of the same?... Pakistan needs honest people, with a will to do something for their country. IK is the only one who fits that description... He is not a messiah, just the leader of the most popular political party in Pakistan. So its natural for people to pin their hopes in him... Your generation brought Pakistan to where it is. Let us now fix problems out way, please!
I suggest everyone to take a look at this article to know some factual data about where our country stands today
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-151761-The-worst-is-still-to-come
It's also to shed some light on what the current government has done for us - this is the effect of corruption that you don't think is our biggest problem.
@abid: The fact that you have written such a stupid reply and the fact that 120 people actually liked it speaks well about the future of this country.
Please be our true messiah and lead us, save our nation. Dont bother about others.
Pervez Hoodbhoy for his political convenience ignores to mention few facts i.e (1) Shareef brothers have been dominant on Punjab politics and controlled governments for over 35 years occupying Primeminister’s and Cheif Ministers seat multiple times (2) where is the comparison of current GDP and human development index between Indian Punjab and Pakistani Punjab. How is Indian Punjab as compare to Pakistan’s Punjab much more prosperous ? Why did you forget to mention the connection of Islamization and Shareef brothers in past 3 decades ? What about giving all kind of support ( political, moral, judicial) and providing sanctuaries to extremists and fanatics in Pakistan’s Punjab by Shareefs ? Pervez Hoodbhoy do you think giving another 5 years to already tried, tested and tired Shareef brothers is any favor to Pakistan ?
A wonderful eye opening article by Hoodbhoy. It points out to real problems. The work of Qadri and IK is more about their own politics than improvement of the people.
@tric People shoud not be trying to "rationalise" everything:)
@Hoodbhoy Talking of the attack on Polio Workers; Why didn't you go to the place where Polio workers were attacked and give Polio drops in support of the Anti-Polio Campaign and to challenge the terrorists?-Your "cricketer Messiah" did that
And talking of Hazara Shia Killings; did you go there to express your solidarity with them just like your "criketer Messiah" did?
Or do you just criticise people from your drawing room?
The Author is just babbling and trying to confuse people with his fuzzy logic of why coruption is no problem and birthd control is the only big problem, he doesn't even deserve a proper response. He is factually incorrect on various issues. Probably he is angry too over Imran Khan/ ISF for their stance and work for saving the HEC.
Dear author I thought scientists test before concluding, but looks you do it otherwise. How did you conclude it about IK without having tested him?
Dr Hoodbhoy, when it comes to Imran Khan, no rational argument is accepted by his fans. Very well written article!
Wonderful piece of writing; words worthy of focused attention, especially, "the promise of the messiahs that they shall bring prosperity to everyone by somehow equalising the distribution of wealth is fake and dishonest, and un-implementable. One would certainly welcome extending the tax net, and doing so would be a huge achievement. But to actually bring prosperity, wealth must be created rather than simply expropriated from somewhere. The only party that seems to give this any consideration is the PML-N. But industrial progress and a post-agricultural economy require cultural change, and so Pakistani society will need to transition from being a progress-unfriendly culture to one that welcomes and promotes progress. From the time of the 19th century German sociologist Max Weber, social scientists have observed that culture and progress go hand-in-hand. Progress-friendly cultures demand planning, punctuality, deferred gratification, belief in rationality, and the rule of law. Without acquiring these features, wealth generation is slow and uncertain."
I agree with you that Population planning, religious extremism and utopean cult-mongering are biggest problems Pakistan faces today. But I do not agree with you that an upright politician like Imran Khan is worthy of redicule. In my opinion (you have every right to disagree) his agenda of focus on implementing quality education, justice, self-governance (local bodies) systems on the domestic side and foreign/ defence policy based on peace and reconciliation is the only hope for positive change in the next 10-15 years for our motherland. The problems that you have identified can best be attacked by these strategic measures of focus rather than by short term, populist and family-politics, campaign oriented policies which other parties adopt. I would sincerely request valuable brains like you (which unfortunately Pakistan has very few due to long neglect of education sector) to please support the great CHANGE which is knocking at Pakistan's door, INSHALLAH.
I have read most of the comments given, I strongly feel the country should be patterned more towards the guidance of Islam and to lay down its bylaws, which should not be moulded by our mullanas for their own interest. Good principle of life is our religion one should not complicate it.
To say he is a Professor - is a disgrace in itself. I live in Denmark and nations everyone is concerned in EU are PIGS (Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain) and the primary reason for this is high debt and major tax evasion. Mr Pervez, not Musharaf, Hoodbhoy - its quite evident your area of expertise is certainly not Economics - and certainly International politics.
With due respect, i just wanna inform u that during last 5 years Pakistan has taken loan of Rs. 7000 billion, which is around twice we had in precedding 50 yaers...further around 1000 billion hv been spent on Pakistan development n rest went on corruption, n u still think corruption is not a big issue ???? no industry no jobs n no law n order n u still think Pakistan is on a ryt track by these corrupt mafias ... One MNA in entitled to hv 51 cars, one day expenditure of President, CM house n Governor house is around 25 to 35 lac each .... n u blv that mashALLAH Pakistani nation is healthy n wealthy .... i just feel sorry by reading these kind of words n columns from a well educated person ... i guess u nvr visited the 80 % of population which is going below the poverty line ... n around 20 % of elite class like u r enjoying lavish life n criticizing the Evens....
Very disappointing article from someome who used to make sense. Italy keeps growing richer...ha! The only reason the EC is saving Italy is because it is too big to fail.
The problem with Pakistan is the culture. As this article shows quite plainly....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/15/oxford-gang-girls-prostitutes-bailey
mr hoodh sir, i know u r a brilliant person in the field of science. but why do people think that they r master of all trades.sir hoodh i respect u as a scientist but please u need some more skills to b a political anaylist. i respect u a lot and admire u too but plz sir we need u to restrict urself in the field of education and not in the world of political analysis. Thanks
That's just criticism for the sake of criticism..!! Ik is not good Qadri is useless,the two major parties are most corrupt,army is the root of every problem...... Then my dear should we elect you?
I have nothing to reply to you.. just read the comments above. Remember that its 2013 not your era. its our. Khan is not alone and we are there to answer you back.
Do you think an elected government can architecture a social change? Can it induce punctuality and get a superstitious nation to accept contraception. I don't think our population is growing because birth control pills are inaccessible. It is growing because even college educated women are superstitious about using them.
Social change is brought about through education and yea you are one of the few that have successfully helped people think differently. However we can't place this responsibility on to the elected govt whichever leader it forms under.
REDUCED corruption if not elimination of it, will have a trickle down effect on social culture and attitudes. It will bring greater respect for the due process of law, for punctuality, for standing in a queue, for filling forms accurately, for accountability, for clarity of the law and its effectiveness, and eventually greater confidence in investing money in a business at home rather than buying an apartment in Dubai. I think Weber would agree.
My 2 cents on this article:
Firstly, there is an obvious deviation and distortion of facts in this article. Also, in some instances over-simplification is evident and in other cases, undue complication as well as projection of closely inter-twined and inter-dependent issues as having no relevance with each other.
Now, while population growth might be a huge problem and maybe even amongst the biggest, it all links back to the corruption that is etched in the very fabric of this country. While most have equated corruption with kickbacks and filling pockets, I think there's more serious corruption that prevails which is only indirectly linked with financials. Not having the right intent to fix things, rulers filling up their cabinets with nincompoops who don't have the competence or the skill set to be in those positions (in addition to lack of intent) - (with lifelong farmers/ feudals responsible for Information technology, convicts being law ministers, jokers responsible for the interior, etc), not letting the competent ones within their parties rise are all forms of corruption which affect us equally.
If your education budget goes into personal accounts, how do you expect your nation to be educated enough to understand family planning and its benefits along with the equally important “what is the right choice for them in the elections” which ofcourse, also links back to why the education budget goes into pockets and not spent on what its meant for - doesnt that link your identified biggest problem in the country with corruption.
In short, concurring with the mighty khan, corruption is Pakistan's "central problem".
As for the only party who, in your opinion gives two hoots about bringing economic prosperity by wealth generation, could you enlighten us with what they have done within Punjab, where they have been the "all-powerful" in these last 5 years. If you cant think of even one such project (which you quite probably wont be able to), could you instead comment on the governance reforms they've brought, law and order improvement, social justice - or anything else that really matters?
Lastly, I agree with you about culture and progress going hand in hand and that "Progress-friendly cultures demand planning, punctuality, deferred gratification, belief in rationality, and the rule of law" however, as corruption is not limited to the rulers anymore, it has seeped through to the very fabric, these attributes will remain non-existant until you fix the fabric. How can you even expect deferred gratification or planning from those who only believe in and care about what’s available to pocket today only !
Italy is getting richer & better? Get your facts rights professor
Excellent .... But I think militancy and extremism should on no 1 and then political stability..
Sir, salute to your political wisdom and thanks GOD, your are not in politics. You would have been an educated and enhanced version of Zardari, 'Khul k khao, corruption doesn't hurt a country'.
I see no difference between Hoodbhoy and Ali Moeen Nawazish. Both make irrational arguments and expect people to follow them because of their fancy degrees.
The problems before Pakistan though quite complex can be tackled by persons who understand the complexities.When the army,the ISI and the religious organizations have the real power it is immaterial which civilian party wins.If the thinking of the military does not change, the prognosis for Pakistan looks bleak.From outside, looking at the current crop of Pakistani leaders, the problems look unsolvable.
Face the reality! Patient is on ventilator and doctor has asked to pray since they did everything which they could do. I find very weird about we Pakistanis that he loves to live in denial mode. Till such time we are not going to face the facts and reality, nothing would change. They say if problem is identified its 90% solved but sadly we are living on emotional slogans since 65 years. Sadly, it’s too late!
What a sorry piece. What have the other parties done to address the 'real' issues? Is Khi violence sectarian? What is the solution? Drones in Khi?
If we will ask Mr. O boy of who should be leader of Pakistan other than himself, I bet he will take his lifetime to think because he just know how to critisize.
Problem with huobuoy is that he assumes if one is good in quantum physics, one is good in everything. Problem with researchers is that that are never satisfied. It is good for profession, may not be good habit in every other case. Qadri was not pretending to be messiah and calimed he had answers of everyhing. He just pointed couple of crucial problems which should have priority (could be solved in few months). Huoboy is talkng of problems which needs decades. Mr. Theoratical, we need to start somewhere here and now.
In a nutshell you have said the problem lies with the military and the mullahs. Why ? because the politicians being inept and corrupt have granted them this space. The answer is to slowly recover this space through honest good governance in which the people would benefit and thus strengthen the civilian rule. Its not rocket science..........and I am sure many understand this.
Wonder why this old well-meaning professor hasn't been able to bring change in Pakistan? Any ideas? Can anybody help?
i am very happy that you pointed out a exact picture but you missed many thing one is eredication of lordship from pakistan in the form of feudal, military,industrial beaucratic one who are the great menace for pakistan sustainable progress and development
The disturbing episode of the Long March ended with less gain to the country and more, perhaps, to Dr. Qadri.
Islamabad Long March Declaration has nothing new that is not already enshrined in the Constitution save commitment by ruling coalition partners of visiting Minhajul Quran office in Lahore for future plans on how to introduce electoral reforms and other political strategies including consensus between Dr Qadri and the PPP on name of care-taker Prime Minister.
The demands put forward by Mr Qadri in the start of his march were widely different from what he was made to agree upon in the end by the cunning minded politicians who relied on ‘delay tactics’ to exhaust the booming enthusiasm Dr Qadri and his crowd showed in the beginning.
Mr Qadri kept on losing hope with each incident taking place out in other parts of country. A mature protest outside Punjab Assembly against the protest of Mr Qadri might have twisted his approach towards understanding the changing scenario.
Another pushback on his hopes to gain what he was aspiring for so voraciously was natural in shape of worsening weather in Islamabad that might have played a role in compelling Dr Qadri to offer open negotiations to the ones whom he had called ‘Yazeed’ and ex-government.
He did not seem to come to negotiation table unless he realized that situation was not in his favour, and even all the opposition parties in parliament stood adamant against him under the headship of Mr Nawaz Sharif in Raiwand.
National Assembly, Provincial Assemblies, Senate, Election Commission and the President all are where they were even after the march is over. What he remained successful in was to make the ruling elite agree to sit together for devising strategies to introduce reforms in Election Commission and to have his share in coming care taker set up. Was not that more a personal gain than a collective one? Sahito Zaheer Sukkur
@Khan of Cape Town: read carefully. he has provided clear solutions. the proble is that we are not willing to accept them.
Sorry sir but the inefficiency and slopiness of the govt is getting harder to justify now. Given the current economic performance of this govt the masses r bound to look elsewhere.
Mr.HoodBhoy along your fierce criticism you didnt mention who is real Messiah..??put light on that Messiah..we are curious to know the real Messiah if Nation is unaware and not familiar.you have the right to criticize but criticism should give birth solution as Who will address this problem.i think you will reply
What is said makes sense but what is deeply lacking is the understanding that for any cultural, demographical or wealth distribution or creation change INSTITUTIONS need to be good and positively productive (a lesson from your colleague PH, i.e. Professor Ali Cheema). So the Messiah senior is talking about that while pml N and Zardari-party are both destroying the institutions. If any institution is to be made or a cultural and economic revolution brought, you need competent and educated people handling them. Hence I believe the only hope for this country remains with the 'Messiah Sr.'
This guy is justifying corruption. Hard to take him seriously, which is too bad because he obviously is very smart.
Sir no solution in your writing if no Khan then who???? how come you can ignore youth of this country.this called generation gap. Any way no need to take jobless teacher serious
Most respectfully, all of your Bullshit aside Sir Hoodbhoy "Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has been convicted of everything from tax fraud to soliciting minors for sex, and yet Italy keeps getting richer and better."
Do you even know where Italy's economy is right now? It's down the drain, people are calling it the next Greece. I expected a person of your caliber to at least do SOME research before ranting on ET about current affairs. This ONE statement nullifies everything you ave written, because you have based your arguments on it!
What a waste of time and by the way what a easy way to catch the people's attention by spreading negative propaganda against Imran Khan who is not in the power yet.
How can you say, that he can't save? atleast i know that he is the better one. And this makes it my duty to vote for him.
@A Shahid: You mean not thinking is thinking out of the box? like PTI Trolls would do. Thats trolling. At least they are thinking.
@Mirza: An excellent comment I totally agree. Regards
The man has lost his marbles. Praising PMLN disastrous economic policies sums his analysis up. When the world was setting up IT labs and investing in higher education, the sharif led government was offering yellow taxis.
well said sir, IK is the most desperate and wicked politician having no wisdom and taking decisions in such a haste that most of the times,he himself regrets his hurriedly taken decisions.he is a totally confused person which is eminent from his political maneuvers.like his manifesto and vowing of eliminating corruption when he comes into power in 90 days: which is not practical.he rather should give a more viable time frame.also his stand regarding terrorism is not acceptable in the current context. at a time when pakistan needs political stability,IK is stuck to his demands which he obviously knows can derail democracy, like seeking of resignation from a democratically elected president. IK in my view is an adventurer,who can go to any extent for achieving his desires.
The issues higglighted in this article seems valid, but i think corruption is one core of an issue. What this present government has done, is to show how easily corruption can be done, how yet so easily, one can escape those charges.. This might have been the reason why (atleast not Qadari, as we dont know, for what prompted him to wage this drama but definately) IMRAN KHAN have been vocal about it (corruption). So i support Imran Khan stand for corruption. The issues related to population and the rest comes in PAKISTAN long term planning
@imran: I love your burlusconey and his bunga bunga parties comment. I cannot stop laughing.
Educate people and they will take control of population. Dialogue with so called enemy and listen to what they have to say rather than throw bullets at them. No one wants to kill people. Find the root cause behind all their actions.
Apart from these two 'messiahs', there is no one who can actually do anything to contribute towards progress of Pakistan. I even doubt Mr Qadri but that's another topic. Criticizing someone is real easy.
Education, Judicial system and negotiations with our so-called enemy .. These three are the priorities. Without solving these problems, you can't even move. You are crippled.
Right in the bulls eye..! the approach by TUQ is short sighted but this will certainly bring some political awareness among moderate sunnis. As far as IK is concerned he will be doing long march after upcoming elections because the people around him will make a forward block and will join the governing party.!
This is a very surprisingly shoddy piece. The example of Italy as well as the argument about corruption. Since several people above have duelly addressed the sloppiness of these arguments, I will avoid repeating the same, but it is really disappointing to see that the writer, like most other op-ed writers in our newspapers, has done absolutely no homework on what he has written.
I loved this whole article. This is exactly what needs to be done, in a same step by step manner mentioned in article. This pragmatic approach will surely save Pakistan and it should be implemented on a war footing basis.
What these leaders and people fails to understand is that corruption is not a root problem, its a effect caused by bigger problem of over population and poor economy of the country. Once these root problems are solved, this corruption will automatically reduce to a significant level so that the progress can achieved.
P.S: But i will definitely choose IK this time because he is the better option available from rest.
Mr writer, I was a fan of you, but in this writing where you have 'implicitly' justified to keep the current ruler PPP, PMLN or then the military, you have proved, you better to be just a scientist not political analyst. In support, you have given many 'useless' evidences. For example, I being in Italy, know that Berlusconi is one of the source for the current bad economy due to his corruption. Your statement 'Italy keeps getting richer and better' has no relation with the truth. I respect you as a scientist, but your opposition to PTI with false reasoning is too much embarrassing to me. If honesty is not the solution, do you think, just an example, if the killings of thousands has no meaning to a dishonest person, can consider problems like population? Do you really think for a country full of natural resources, population is the real problem of our country? Do you really think had there been no honest leadership in US history, even then despite of the current corruption US would still had the same big economy?
This article raises many issues, I point out a few here:
Dr. Hoodbhoy, while arguing that corruption is not our main problem, gives Italy as his first example. Now, the author may not know that Italy is among the PIGS , the set of mainly South European countries, which have the dubious distinction of surviving thanks to so far generous economic assistance from the North. Only a couple of days ago, an Italian professor of Monetary Economics gave a seminar in my university, explaining how Italy didn't deserve to be in the Euro Zone even in 1999. Part of the reason, in his view, is corruption and poor governance. Italy does have the luxury of being in the European Union, and hence living beyond its means relying on the Germans and the Austrians to pay its bills, but can we?
On corruption, the author may not know that there is a lively intlectual debate among Institutional Economists on whether and to what extent does corruption and underdeveloped institutions retards a nation's growth. There is increasing empirical evidence that countries with less corruption have indeed outgrown the more corrupt ones.
The author mentioned that instead, population growth is our biggest problem. This again ignores the growing body of empirical evidence that development preceeds and even promotes the demographic transition. Our neighbour India, for example, despite a relatively high population growth rate, has managed to grow in the last two decades. Our problem then does not lie in lack of contraceptives, but lack of good administrators and functioning institutions. Lower fecundity will certainly control overpopulation, but would not kickstart economic progress. Institutional reforms and meritocracy will.
Really Sir? Italy is getting Richer and better , Here are growth rates of italy for 10 yrs. enlighten me how is it getting Richer?
Country 1999 2000 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Italy 1.3 2.7 0.4 0.4 1.3 0.1 1.9 1.4 -1 -5.1 1.3 0.4
No doubt the author is well read but so are others in this world. Prescription of reducing the population bomb is right, but so is strict rule of law. No nation advanced economically and culturally without upholding the rule of law. UK France and Russia sent transgressors to Australia, French Guiana and Siberia respectively. Unfortunately it is the Muslim world's hangups of getting worked up on minor and personal issues (i.e., dealing with female reproduction, disallowing women to drive, to menu sizes at a wedding), instead of establishing a culture of paying taxes and supporting meritocracy (Northern Europe, US and Far East), establishing schools, colleges and hospitals (like the Parsis in India and Jews in the US and Europe) distinguishing right from wrong (all religions and society's do), enforcing justice (not murdering IO's and investigating journalists) and being simply decent people (live and let live). Our world and especially Pakistan do not hang transgressors of public purse (like the Chinese), murderers are aided to flee (FIA aids flight processing to non-extradition lands) and usurpers and their staff go on to live in green pastures, then one is only going to get the IMF to tell us the need for a bail-out (bankruptcy looming) and what its prescriptions are.
Bravo Mr Hoodbhoy! I believe that Mr Hoodbhoy is correct in saying that IK and Mr Qadri wont really be able to bring solid reforms in this country. Pakistan is becoming a failed state; yet our leaders continue to chant the slogan of "saving democracy". rather than facing and tackling the real problems of Pakistan such as long term sustainable growth and energy we constantly focus on simple issues that bear no long term value. in the case of Pakistan, we need a ruler who would lead the country with an iron fist! like Musharraf. most of our Parliamentarians can not even define the meaning of democracy yet they have managed to rote-learn the slogan save democracy! and that democracy is the best revenge, which clearly isn't the case. only a few days ago, Mr Qadri proved his point that he is merely an empty shell. a man who first claims that he will make Islamabad's D-chowk the Tahrir square of Pakistan ends up negotiating with the very people he wanted to oust from the government. the five years of the so called "democratic rule" have proved that Pakistanis only function and prosper under the strict rule of the army.
The doctor is more than welcome to enter politics, if he is so much well versed with political and policy matters, rather than criticizing those who are doing good for the country in their own capacity. Its easy to be a good critic, which the doctor has always proved, than a doer.
@Aamer Khawaja: Why do people like you keep quiet in Pakistan? Thats the authors point. Yes, IK is way overstated. Has Hoodbhoy ever written irrationally? Those, against him, please let us what it takes to get him to India, we would love to have him here!!
The very premise of the article is flawed. Para 4 says that US and Italy also face corruption and yet they develop and function properly - and therefore corruption is not Pakistan's main problem.....i.e. the writer says that when US and Italy can function easily then why can't we. What our dear writer overlooks, however, is the nature, the pervasiveness and the roots of corruption. A comparative analysis of corruption along these three lines will reveal that corruption in the US, Italy and other is not comparable with that in Pakistan or other similar economies. I like Dr Pervez for his contributions to hard science, but I time and again, his logic in social science is found wanting.
The author has reiterated what most readers of English press already agree on. He has missed one really important aspect that is critical. The civilian control of the armed forces. Unless army can be directed in every way, there can be no real progress.
@Salman "Mr Author, who do you think would be better to lead the people now? " Who ever is courageous enough and has the intellectual muscle and brings the army under a civilian control in a true sense is the best person to lead. That will make a good beginning for a long course correction. Pakistan will not improve in just one election but several elections. That will happen only if there is no perpetual fear of intervention by the men in Khaki. Development is enabled by leaders but made possible by people who shape the society.
i think such a biased view does not suit an academic atleast. I find it highly ludicrous how the man justifies corruption by citing examples from other countries. It is the most obnoxious thing one could come up with. Yes, pay the tax so that some idiot can get at the helm of affairs and enjoy.
It is good to have you back here sir.
So you are suggesting we should give Zaradari and Co another five years. Seriously if I had a small retail store i would not leave it to Zadari and Nawaz. You should stick to teaching science and from i what i heard from LUMs you are no good even in your feild. Do us a favor go to the USA they need people like you there.
An anti khan message that I like but don't we even knowing subconsciously that the situation is grim want a ray of light? whoever provides it we are willing to give it a try.
I wonder if author knows pakistani society well. as far as contraceptives are concerned they are readily available in every medical store and PAN walla shops. rest depends on the people and their education and for that matter his favorite industrial friendly PMLN is distributing laptops aka lollypops, when concrete educational reforms are needed they are playing election gimmicks.
And as for terrorism policy IK stand is much better as he wants no external intervention in our policy making which is the main hurdle for us for long time. And for that matter PMLN is happy in staying quite. Author is over simplifying IK policies as terrorist friendly. but the real question is when do we stop following directions from US????? are we going to make terrorist like what we did in cold war another time when US ask us to??
and what industrialization friendly this country can be without being resolving the core issues like electricity which suffers from RAJA ReNTAL CORRUPTION, lack of institutions and JUSTICE system. and without dealing TERRORISM which this government fails to ? and do we really want two family parties PMLN and PPP to play musical chair and devoid this nation of true DEMOCRATIC norms???
Hoodbhoy is so clear and articulate .Amazing article!!
@Syed Arbab Ahmed (@SyedArbabAhmed): What is it with you and many Pakistanis and not being able to grasp the fact that just because there's no solution offered, it doesn't mean people shouldn't identify and point out problems. If people just kept their mouth shut about complicated problems with no existing solution, it means every last problem in existence won't get fixed because the starting point is unacceptable. You, like most PTI supporters, should try using their brain instead of recycling cliche deflections. Sadly, using your brain will require a period of time for you to get over the damage to your self respect the moment you turn that brain on Imran Khan.
Wonderful analysis!
More I listen to Imran Khan more he seems to be confused.
This is truly a thought-provoking article. He is one of the most rational commentators in this part of the world. Unfortunately, he is demonized on a regular basis.
Yes. You are right professor! We must not become pawns of fake messiahs who we don't know about, and their real intention. We must vote for the same 'ol messiahs about whom we know everything, their intentions, and can literally see through them.
The thing is, when you ought to choose between the two evils, chose the lesser one. I hope this clears your mind a bit. And, NO, I don't think IK might be an evil, but think for yourself, you're comparing him with world-renowned dual (read evil) faces. Apply the exclusion theory man!
Why is it that we are so opposed to population control? Six million being born every year! Do we have the educational, health, housing, electricity, water and other basic needs/supplies for these six million/year? This number will go up exponentially in the coming years. Come on gentlemen, listen to reason. Why are we so numerically obsessed? Do we really think that we can conquer the world through over population? We can't even supply shoes to six million, leave alone guns--which are needed for conquest. Deal with reality and kindly listen to reason.
A eminent professor of physics saying 'keep on repeating same experiment hoping that different results would happen'. :S
Then who will do it? Please tell us Mr. Hoodbhoy
@Yoghurt lover: the issue is clean govt and stable govt the party he supporting pmln is all looters theior own billions r outside the country how they can bring the change the mood is set in pakistan that is change will come and will come by pakistan khan ,what khan is saying is very realistic and he get the goal .secong he compare paksitan and italy may be he does not know where italy stands today .he like burlusconey and his bunga bunga parties
Very well written, you Nailed it !!!
@Salman:
Mr Author, who do you think would be better to lead the people now? Would you like the current regime to do another 5 years? IK is the best choice right now, I thought you knew better.
Whether Mr Author thinks that the present regime is better or whether you know better, is wholly immaterial. What matters is, what the people of Pakistan think.
And to know that we will have to wait till the elections.
PS- Thank God, the Election Managers of the Deep State have been neutered on account of the Asghar Khan case.
There's nothing more ridiculous than comparing the level of corruption in Pakistan with corruption in Italy and other developed countries.
This excellent article contains just too much wisdom for the masses of Pakistan to understand and accept.
This is what I am saying for years. The only resolution to problems in Pakistan is one party and that is PMLN as it has experienced people and people who know how an economy is uplifted. Imran Khan always utter that he will broaden the tax base and will collect billions as tax money and has no agenda about industrilization and even don't know that the tax base can only be broaden when you are providing opportunity to floourish business. The problem is we are extractin political parties from NGOs/NPOs and the mentality of an NGO/NPO is to raise funds not to generate profits, that is why they these parties think that they will raise funds out of this and that and so on. Economy of countries don't work like that rather it is a comletely different phenomenon which they (PTI and other NGO based parties) need to learn. Other than that Imran Khan during last few days has shown a great irresponsible behavior and indecisiveness (I am talking about the long march thingy). Can a nation afford such kind of a leadership??? Surely not. And the people who are talking about a scientist can't thikn about politics are mistaken as a scientist has more logical approach towards the issues of everyday life. I am not saying that he will always be right about things but if you want to denounce it use logical way and not merely say that this is not his subject that is why he will always be wrong.
Why Maulana Qadri and Cricketer Khan can’t save Pakistan? Because the Maulana had to run away to Canada to save himself and Mr. Khan is busy projecting himself as the messiah of the country while the PTI trolls try to support him online. The actual issue is the Pak state has been hijacked by fundamentalist minded people sitting in powerful positions deep within the state while Mr. Khan and Maulana surf on the surface and gloss over their presumed success at beating the enemy imposter (= Government). The actual enemy (Social & Economic issues) stands deliberately neglected and replaced by a presumed & intentionally demonized one ("The ever agressive Hindu state") = India...
Oh yes, PML N will save Pakistan. How naive.
@sabi: I think you are making a flawed assumption that just because military dictators have not been able to prove charges of corruption, most of the charges of corruption are made out of thin air. I don't know what part of Pakistan you live in, but please do hang out with some people from bureaucracy and development contractors and you will get to find out some interesting stories. Furthermore, organizations like transparency international don't pull out the corruption numbers out of their own hats, there is some reality on the ground. I agree politicians are not the only one engaged in it, but someone has to own the buck and rise above others in terms of responsibility and I would expect politicians to play that role since we vote them in.
excellant
I agree population yet another major issue Pakistan is facing. But still we cannot ignore corruption. In a country where more than 50 % of its total revenue is sinked in corruption, how can you expect progress in that country.
One of the brilliant article by Hood bhai,he touched On real issues and suggested accurate approach to solve them.he rightly mentioned real issues such as increasing of population at rocketing speed,terrorism,increasing religiosity,sectarianism,incompetence in governance,hollow slogans by hollow and artificial leaders,ill planning in educational sector.in my opinion hood bhai should be the in charge of our education sector.
Dear physician, good attempt , but in my humble opinion ,you yourself are not focused towards the real problems of this nation, birth control or you want to take terrorist head on when the whole world is pressing on dialogue with them to bring them on right path. Corruption which has eaten up economy of Pakistan in your opinion is not a major problem of Pakistan, how unrealistic !, and if Imran Khan or Dr Tahir ul Qadri are fake mesiahs , than u must have recommended true messiah, i don't think PML N is our messiah, might be yours
let IK come, he will provide you job, don't worry professor, cheers!
PS: Does every aspiring saviour of Pak think he has been chosen by God?
Mr. Pervez Hoodbhoy,
I really hope you read my comment.
Looking at the support IK has by a majority of Pakistanis, makes me feel really really sorry for you.
Intellectuals like you do not belong with a country of 180 million failures.
Being a patriot you will not my idea, but please consider moving out of this failed state and possibly do something good in USA, Canada.
I know Indian government wouldn't favor giving citizenship to a Pakistani muslim like yourself. But if India can make an exception and get you to move to India, that would be good for us and you.
Trust me, you will get a lot of respect and space to work on the betterment of humanity, here in India.
These are very good points. IK should listen to them and implement such plans in his next Govt.
It's amazing to see such support for Imran Khan.
As always the country of 180 million spectacular failures, has failed to understand that IK is rabble-rouser and not even a politician.
If IK by any chance come to power, Pakistan will anyway go down as usual, but probably faster.
There will be a period of seeming peace and prosperity, like what Musharraf brought by bringing in foriegn aid. But that will fade away and before Pakistanis realize their mistakes, it would be a futher failed state.
The status quo parties are in power since 80's if not even before. If Mr. Hoodbhoy still thinks that they are the solutions and can bring change , then God help us.
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is going to take part in elections anyway and I believe IK deserves at least once to be in Government to prove his case.
The youth is with PTI and as population grows and young become eligible voters, I see PML(N) or other status quo parties support dwindle very much if not completely over a decade.
You atually disappointed me with this article, I thought you were smarter and more informed. Some of the things you said are true but a lot of them are wrong, I will point out only one thing because really I don't have much time to waste here "Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has been convicted of everything from tax fraud to soliciting minors for sex, and yet Italy keeps getting richer and better." First of all, Silvio Berlusconi is not Italy's Prime Minister since more than a year. He has not been convicted of everything, only of tax fraud so far. Last thing, Italy is in much worse economic state than it was 10 years ago, unemployment is at 10%, youth unemployment is at 36%, Italy will be in recession this year, for the the third consecutive year. So please next time you write an article GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Brilliant analysis. Election results will tell us that Nation is more fed up with these fake Messiahs than present corrupt government.
Well Mr. Hoodboy, I am certainly not as knowledgeable as you are, but Imran Khan has cited population on various occasions and his considered opinion is that it can only be tackled by educating the masses. Under current economic, health and education crisis, expecting the masses to understand these issues is illogical.
Also there may be some shortcomings, in your view may be blunders in his policies and arguments on different issues, but to compare his person and struggle with Qadri is wrong.
About the taliban problem, the difference of opinion between you and Imran khan lies in the strategy of dealing with the issue, and not on the objectives. While he believes the war can be handled by the armed tribals themselves, you advocate use of force either to quash the militants, or to reach a position of strength from where negotiations may favor the state.
Hope the country comes out of the mess it is in.
Don't blame the politicians. Blame the voters who blindly votes these thugs. Here is my thought. We need to create awareness among voters. Political parties need to officially advertise their agenda/policies and promise to deliver within 4 years (Oath, signed). If they don't they must be penalized by Election Commission for the next election year.
@A Shahid: The fact that writer names PLM-N as the most likely savior shows their idea of rescue is simply to reinforce the failures and expect a different result.
Shahid Ji, respected sir Hoodbhoy only stated that PML-N gave any sort of consideration to creating wealth. From that to calling them as most likely savior is a huge jump, don't you think? Kudos to you, you even blamed sir Hoodbhoy for it.
May be reading the article again is in order.
@Mirza: How dumb are you Pakistan spends less than 3% of gdp on defence. Reason europe spends low on defence is because of nato and no enemies. Europe is weal they could not even defeat tiny libya with out american support
Pak army can defeat taliban and has done so in swat and waziristan Dont blame mqm police failures on army
It is so easy to pick on anyone, but I don't see any suggestions that who will be the messiah. Like a text book all you have mentioned are the problems, don't we know them. Suggest who are the people who can guide the country, We are not Italy or USA. We are a divided nation, which needs someone around whom we can unite.
@John B Thank you Mr. Demagogue!!!. Please provide the same advise to your own country too.
Dr Hoodbhoy, you have summarized our problems and some of their causes and mitigating factors perfectly. First, the main cause of ALL the problems is lack of rationality and criticial thinking. Second, population explosion (driven by irrational thinking) is and will be an insurmountable problem. Third, it is an object lesson in our psyche where we consider it ok to surrender sovereignty to murderers and call it "negotiation". Thus, and I am sorry to say this, I see no hope for our country and its (irrational) people.
The pith and substance of the article is:
"From the time of the 19th century German sociologist Max Weber, social scientists have observed that culture and progress go hand-in-hand. Progress-friendly cultures demand planning, punctuality, deferred gratification, belief in rationality, and the rule of law. Without acquiring these features, wealth generation is slow and uncertain."
Its is not surprising but tragic that the comments posted here reflect a complete blindness to any rational approach and objective analysis.
@abid: If your suggestion was taken by Pakistan it would have been either be Occupied by India and you would have been teaching in Delhi University. Dude, I am sorry to disappoint you, but India (or any other country for that matter) will not occupy Pakistan even if invited (read begged). Why would anyone want to inherit your problems? All Indians want is better policing of the LoC so that your jihadis don't lose their way and land up on this side of the border - and unfortunately, your army doesn't seem to be very good at this job. On a separate note, I am sure that Dr. Hoodbhoy would be a catch for many Indian universities.
The writer can only talk and talk, and most of it without any sense. He could not do well in his own field 'Physics' and obviously not in other subjects like defense, politics, society, infrastructure etc. How many institutes has he opened himself to serve the poor? Thankfully no one takes him seriously, not even LUMS itself. We need to be aware of pseudo intellectuals just like we need to be aware of Moulvis.
Dear Author ,
Its good sometimes to portray something positive happening , but someone need to spend some time finding it .
Thank you for restoring my faith in sanity. Brilliant and honest.
Mr. Hoodbhoy, tell the nation who is responsible for the upcoming economic crisis in the country, if you do not want new faces in political scenario of Pakistan. For reference, you can check today's news item in ET. Your readers do not think you read it before writing your article.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/495916/doomsday-scenario-imf-paints-a-gloomy-picture-of-pakistans-economy/
Being a big fan of you, I expect you to enlighten people with your views about what is your plan of going forward. It hurts me to see your analysis criticizing people (Dr. Atta, Samar Mobarak, HEC are few examples) without providing any solution to problems. If you think that the current setup, or similar government comes into power once again, then I am sorry to say, you are unaware of ground realities. If in your opinion, Pakistan problems are to be analyzed through the tunnel vision of thinking of intolerance only, then ignoring the economic challenges is another form of tunnel visioning. I hope you read this comment, and talk about your political vision, rather than criticizing those who are struggling to bring some change.
Upon reading this article it appears the writer has only been following Pakistani politics for about a couple of weeks. The pit has spoken out equally vociferously against the current administrations inability on governance as they have on corruption. Plus, I wouldn't assume too many political parties in the world would be strategising to win an election on the platform of population control. And let's not even get started on how out of date the writer is foreign affairs - Italy getting richer(GDP growth rates over the last 6 quarters would disagree)
World population stands near 7billion today from 3billion in 1960! Current available resources are not enough for 7billion people, countries such as Pakistan with limited resources will be worst off if they are unable to control population and not grow their economies. Doctor Sahib is absolutely correct in his assessments, control population growth priority number one followed by ending this romance with religious extremism.
thanx sir for showing the reality to this stupid nation..still ppl couldnot recognise people like container quadri and real problems of pakistan..ther is goin to be economically disaster to this nation in cuming year...Godbless pakistan
Imran Khan the maverick is quickly loosing the support of sensible youth by not targeting his Tsunami towards generals who have huge share of looting the state, playing golf and escalated wars that badly failed.
Correction in my earliest post, I meant Asian Tigers (Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, and Hong Kong) rather than South Asian Tigers
Unemployed Hoodbhoy will...
Look at Qadri's own doublespeak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj25N9dDujM
His two-faced behaviour is ridiculous. How can anyone trust someone who talks like this? He is obviously a stooge for the army. In other countries, people launch street protests when they are denied elections, but in Pakistan people follow jokers who want street protests to prevent elections that are already about to happen. In other countries, when there are questions about the integrity of elections, the genuine democracy activists will call for UN observers to ensure the process is accurate. In Pakistan, people listen to jokers who will only call for everything to be run by the army. When the people themselves are stupid, and are following crooked jokers like Qadri, then what hope does the nation have?
. "One would certainly welcome extending the tax net, and doing so would be a huge achievement. But to actually bring prosperity, wealth must be created rather than simply expropriated from somewhere. The only party that seems to give this any consideration is the PML-N. But industrial progress and a post-agricultural economy require cultural change, and so Pakistani society will need to transition from being a progress-unfriendly culture to one that welcomes and promotes progress. "
Hundred percent true! Economic and social progress have gone hand in hand in western societies and the others that have followed them for example Japan, Korea etc.
@Falcon: One of the most illogical assumptions of our intellectuals is that Pakistan is the same as any other developing / developed country in terms of corruption Establishment control politics in this country and therefore spreads disinformation through his tools.like media,fake politicians and mullah.If politicians are really corrupt to the extant of destruction as thea are accused of,why dictators failed to prove them corrupt.Why not this time we change the direction of canons to those spreading disinformation.And have the politicians in this country free hand ever.Divide and rule is the policy of establishment and that is the real cause of all mess.
Comparing Imran Khan and Qadri is like comparing apples and oranges. There is no comparison. IK is a passionate Pakistani who has a vision and a programme while Qadri is a launched Canadian who's demands have changed quicker than time it takes to say ''change''.
Only messiah is zardari and PPP
Would be better if you stuck to your field which is science....seriously.
Didn't the author learn anything from physics. FIRST YOU TEST and only then can you say if something or someone will work out or not. The author is drawing conclusions without actual knowledge or even use of logic.
Sad defeatist stuff..
So true that it hurts.
I dont understand why people become so defensive about Imran Khan. If they see his plans criticized. They can question him and he can make them better of a policy. Instead they keep critcizing the person who crticizes his policies.
Author, I absolutely agree with you.kudos.Pls. keep on doing jihad against fake messiahs who fooling this poor nation without any fear.These fake messiahs know only one thing flatter army and do every thing.Shame is a small word for such thugs perhaps curse would be a better choice.IK is on the wrong track but I would not use curse for him.He is to me too naive.
Sir, The issues you have identified - population explosion and terrorism/bigotry/radicalism are key. But you missed out a 3rd key issue that might potentially have indicted PPP misgovernance i.e. load shedding and circular debt that are lopping of as much as 2% from Pakistan's GDP. I also detected a bias in your discussion on the issue of terrorism. You chose to ignore PML-N's cosy partnership with LeJ, PPP's ineffectiveness in dealing with terror and the recent change in Imran's stance as evidenced by his being the only politician that actually named LeJ by name. You aso did not call-out MQM - the one political party that at least initially actively supported Qadri - preferring instead to conflate Imran with Qadri.
I am an Indian and not a supporter of any Pakistani party but have been reading news regularly and was surprised at this bias from someone as objective as you, someone I admire greatly.
Pseudo liberals secular Altaf , sad to hear such rubbish from such person
Firstly, either corruption effects the smooth running of the country or not it should not take place at the first place only. Secondly, you cant compare the mentioned corruption cases with our corruption cases as its believed by many that our ministers and prime minster are involved in massive corruption cases not just tax frauds and the rate of corruption is increasing at much higher rate then in the mentioned countries. In a country where extremism is creating new records every year it is impossible in such circumstances to make efforts for population planning. Other major issues of the country wont let population planning to be first priority, although its importance cannot be ignored. After losing so much and gaining nothing from the war America and the govt have finally pulled the Taliban towards negotiation, which has decreased the pace of suicide attacks. That's what the cricketer had been saying from so long. However most of the people are still confused how Shareefs or any other strong contender of the elections will deal with terrorism. Sir you forgot to mention how PML(N) created wealth for the common man in flop schemes like PELE TAXI, SASTI ROTI, distributing laptops where most of the students can't afford college or don't have access to internet and spending millions just to build a small bridge, mabe it only created wealth for Shareefs only. Lastly you cannot attach Maulana with the Cricketer in any case, present or past. Maulana has not even registered for elections yet and maybe he himself is not sure for what he is going to stand in elections. Who knows if the upcoming fake messiahs are only considered fake by the public unlike tried and tested fake messiahs like PML(N) and PPP.
@ Author
You are Really lost. You propose a bizarre idea that corruption has little to do with economic growth.
"Italy is getting richer and better" lol. Italy is definitely better than Pakistan financially and was world's third biggest economy once (when it was not as corrupt), and has been slipping down slowly for years now. They have 120% GDP to dept ratio. Only next to much troubled Greece within EU. Corrupt politicians, over spending, lack of tax collection and mafias running fiefdoms are some of their key problems (sounds familiar). So situation in Italy when compared to its EU counterparts doesn't look too rosy. Ones that are doing best in EU or are considered least corrupt.
One doesn't have to agree with Khan or Maulana or vote for them, but your point of view is really off reality. And I doubt it will resonate with people tired of corruption (of all kinds including financial).
Compare actual ranking of least to more corrupt countries from CORRUPTION PERCEPTIONS INDEX 2012 and compare with list of countries with highest to lowest per capita GDP and see the correlation yourself.
Completely agree with author. Zardari, Nawaz, Altaf, Shujaat and Fazlu are the only saviors of Pakistan and when their powers combine, I am captain planet.
Following is my old post to Ayesha Saddiqa article close look on Qdri's thesis @Rida: “Please don’t jump to conclusion too fast!” Dear,I suggest you and others enthusiests to keep a close watch on his statements from now on and see whether he makes contradictions or not.Whether he twists or remains straight forward,whether he follows true sunnah and quran philosphy or something else.I have personely nothing to gain or lose from this man.I sincerely believe that this man has clearly deviated from the true teachings of Quran and sunnah.And therefore I believe that he is not there to save Pakistan but for his own vested intrests.He is one of the many who have been abusing religion for personel gains.Sorry for any offence to his followers." Reader should decide if I was right or wrong.
"and yet Italy keeps getting richer and better"
What a nonsensical statement. Italy is a basket case, ask anyone in Europe. Look at their debt-to-gdp ratio. The EU is buying up Italian bonds like theres no tomorrow to keep yields down (to prevent Italy from going into default) to save the doomed EU project. Italy is an overblown welfare state, well out of its depth, like much of Europe. Please dont delude self hating pakistanis further into thinking looking at Europe is the answer, as a British born Pakistani, im telling you dont look here for any answers.
As for the US, they have the privilege of being able to print the world reserve currency. Something pakistan doesnt have, and will never have. Go and look at their debt problems, go and look at detroit. Things arent all rosy in the west.
The only thing they're doing that Pakistan cant do...and prevent itself from going broke, is turn on the printing presses. QE1/QE2/QE3....
What Pakistan needs is the reforms Dr Qadri has been advocating, and the visionary leadership of someone like Imran Khan. Imran can inspire and lead at the same time. Someone who Pakistanis can feel proud of when representing them. Someone with a clean record.
Finally, Please dont equate the US bail-outs to corruption, theres a monumental difference. Senators/MP's werent getting billion dollar kickbacks like they do in PK. Jobs were being saved. Bank deposits were being protected When the US buys fighter jets, Michelle Obama doesnt get kickbacks from Lockheed Martin!
Corruption is interwoven in the fabric of our feudal elite/political classes, they think they have a right to corruption. That corruption accounts for a significant percentage of Pakistans government receipts.
Hoodbhoy, we know you have lost hope. we havent, cheer up!
Why is something so blindingly obvious to outsiders, non-existent to those in Pakistan! Why does no one ask what are the sources of funding for Qadri? Why his sudden interest in the political landscape of Pakistan, when he himself has been safely ensconced in Canada (and why hasn't he given up the Canadian citizenship?) Why does Imran still distinguish between "good" and "bad' taliban? Why is the govt on one hand supporting the drones (by providing the intel) and on the other, protesting against it? Why are Pakistanis bent on solving the problems(?) of the Islamic world, rather than putting their own house in order first?
Coming from a person who can't even save his own job
Fantastic article from PH! Bravo for writing such bold analysis about the Islamabad Cleric & Taliban Khan. Both are the babies of establishment.
Does Pervez Hoodbhoy know anything else other than criticize people? What other choice do we have other than Imran Khan? All those problems u have mentioned, can they be solved by Nawaz Sharif, Zardari or the army? And how can u even compare Italy with Pakistan? Maybe the author is not aware of Italy's debt problems and the rising unemployment there. God knows how it's becoming richer and better. Imran Khan may not be perfect, but atleast he has the will to do SOMETHING for this country! Atleast he's not corrupt! Pakistanis dont have any other choice other than Imran Khan! All those against him are just assuming all the time. Nobody is sure of what he will do. We do not have a choice other than Imran Khan.
A scientific and thus fair advice for our country. I am sure it is going to go on deaf ears and pseudo intellectuals would go after the writer. Population control is the central issue. However, our culture and rightwing parties want the opposite. One can see the euphoria if there are child births (male) and when somebody is converted by whatever means. We practice quantity not quality of people and education. The phobia about childbirth is so epidemic that when govt sets up a plant to provide cheap bread or vaccination the rightwing counters it with the family planning medicine. It was false in 1970's as it is now. In addition the corruption is present in Pakistan and most third world countries. With economic progress, democracy and independent judiciary it has been controlled in most countries. Economic progress overtakes the corruption and most countries of the region are and SE Asia provide ample examples. Despite all this we do have enough money to raise the largest per capita army in the world with WMD and all the expensive toys. Yet it is not capable of fighting rag tag Taliban and terrorists even 10 years after the turned rogue. How could a poor country make any progress with so many days of terror and strikes? There is no country even rich European which can afford such a huge army and active nuclear and drone programs. We had decided to eat grass but raise huge army and bombs. We would wait for the next messiah who could solve all our problems including all our industry and autos running on water. Is there a mullah who can double my money?
This article is a perfect example of why our previous generations failed to give us a prospering state as they are too much beholden to their rigid ideas and cannot think outside the box. The fact that writer names PLM-N as the most likely savior shows their idea of rescue is simply to reinforce the failures and expect a different result.
Equating Imran Khan and Tahir ul Qadri is wrong! Tahir ul Qadri came on an agenda and his past is very questionable. Imran Khan is an honest man and will perfectly create the balance between Pakistan's right wing and liberal society.
And IMRAN KHAN does not support the Taliban, he says military action alone is not the solution. And guess what? He has been proven right! We have fought this war for 11 years and achieved nothing! Literally nothing! It is time to call quits on war on terror as Imran Khan says
Brilliant Prof.... We seem to be looking for messiahs from the cricketer, to the maulana, to the general to the judge...symptomatic of a people who cannot place faith in themselves....cultural change needed indeed....lets start by sorting out the education conundrum?
One thing the senior and junior messiahs have done is to wake up the slumbering political parties to the restlessness of the rich and poor of PAK, and hopefully the new government provide economic prosperity in the future with directed policies on extremism, and law and order, trade and terrorism.
As far as population control, it can only happen if the populace is educated, contraception is dismantled from religious clutch, and is cheap and is readily available and the state is serious in its policy. In PAK it is difficult without a massive public out reach but it is also doubtful when there is so much resistance to life saving vaccinations.
The present system of PAK is heading in a wrong direction in all fronts-that all agree, but the majority of the people who make up the electoral votes to whom the political parties cater do not agree on modern system of governance and consider every institution in PAK is corrupt. Institutional change will be a first good step.
Unless political parties recognize their dichotomous role, appeasing the public and providing governance with policy of the future, it will be more of the same.
In PAK all political parties have the same manifesto and they operate as a franchise of vote banks rather than policy banks and that is the main problem.
This is not the first time PAK is facing the challenges of the present time. Neither the status quo democracy of bringing an another party to power nor the old method of doctrine of necessity can transform PAK.
Excellent.
Excellent article. We need to be realistic rather than idealistic. Change can't be brought by only chanting slogans of change
A brilliant read! It seems that a lot of the "true" problems" prevailing in Pakistan are due to the lack of education. We are in dire need of more sane, logical and rational people in our society, Mr.Hoodbhoy being a great example of one
I ditto the sentiment
As I have mentioned elsewhere, the author is a brilliant scientist but political economics is not his forte. One of the most illogical assumptions of our intellectuals is that Pakistan is the same as any other developing / developed country in terms of corruption. This is a binary analysis without mentioning where does our corruption fall on the scale of 0 to 100. Countries with significantly high levels of perception of corruption can't progress because institutional weakness and economic weakness feed off each other. Similarly, wealth creation is capped by institutional weaknesses. Same thing happened to South Asian Tigers, Japan and now China and India. And it is not just corruption, look at the governance inefficiency, why does it take many days for Balochistan Govt to respond to massacre of Hazara Shias? So, please stop peddling status quo if you want democracy to flourish in the country.
Regarding criticism of Imran Khan. What a biased & shallow analysis. Your articles are nothing but full of doom & gloom. You offer no hope, no alternative, just criticism. I suggest you should retire from op-ed writing too !!
Oh dear . . . lets just sit back and talk about birth control . . . how about some corruption control Hoody?
Sorry sir..i think you are wrong..if i remember correctly you are the same person who told it is better for Pakistan to remain de-nuclearize in the long term national interest. If your suggestion was taken by Pakistan it would have been either be Occupied by India and you would have been teaching in Delhi University. You have studied theoretical Physics well but you lack Sociopolitical knowledge. You suffer from myopia on judging leadership. If cricketer Imran Khan and Mullah Tahir qadri cant solve Problem then how come Mullah Ayatollah Khomeini and Actor Ronald Reagan ,Actor Arnold Schwarzenegger became successful leaders of Iran and Us.
Mr Author, who do you think would be better to lead the people now? Would you like the current regime to do another 5 years? IK is the best choice right now, I thought you knew better.
Pakistan does not need saviors; it needs political reforms. Pressure groups like Qadri's are a important part of the efforts to push for reforms.
The fearless anti-Taliban cleric has drawn more local and international media attention and focus in a few days than a Taliban-sympathizing cricket icon who has been active in Pakistani politics for more than a decade.
He has addressed a huge rally in Lahore on December 23, 2012, eclipsing an earlier large rally by PTI chief Imran Khan at Minar-e-Pakistan. He has brought the ruling coalition to its knees by forcing its members to publicly accept his demands for transparent, free and fair elections in front of tens of millions of Pakistanis who watched it live on almost all of Pakistan's many news channels.
Pakistan needs powerful pressure groups to reform national politics. Dr. Qadri's Minhaj-ul-Quran is the first such group. I hope there will be many more such passionate and eloquent activists and public interest groups to act as watch dogs over the nascent political process which must be reformed and allowed to continue and mature.
http://www.riazhaq.com/2013/01/kudos-to-qadri.html
Here we go again. Its a vogue to criticize IK these days. Isn't it. Just like poor Jewwsss :D