"Leave them," Hussain said before turning to his audience, "You have a right to defend yourself by any means."
Altaf's speech at an interfaith conference organised by his party in Karachi came after a series of statements by him and other party leaders on the increase in the number of attacks on Shias throughout Pakistan. Several clerics from Karachi as well as other cities of Pakistan such as Quetta, Lahore and Chakwal, were in attendance.
He said his statements had been criticised because he had only supported Shias. "I have also condemned attacks on Sunni clerics. But do tell me of an event where Sunnis have been taken off buses, identified and killed by Shias - I do not believe this has happened."
Hussain highlighted the alarming trend of uploading footage of such attacks online. In these videos you can clearly hear chants calling Shias non-believers. "I would like to ask the ulema, where is the Inter-Services Intelligence, the Military Intelligence, the Intelligence Bureau, Frontier Constabulary, Rangers, paramilitary forces and law enforcement agencies?" asked Altaf. "If you cannot protect citizens then the country will break into separate parts. Christians will ask for a separate state, then Shias, so will the Barelvis and the Ahle Hadith. What joke is this? Where is the government? Maintaining peace and establishing law and order is the responsibility of the institutions on which billions of rupees and 80% of the budget is spent."
By making this speech and a number of statements condemning the attacks, Altaf and the MQM have emerged as perhaps the only political entities to have taken such a hard-hitting stance against militancy. This helps the MQM not only strengthen its public claim of being a liberal, secular political party, but will also appeal to voters in Karachi and in areas where there has been little to no political courage shown on the issue. The MQM has a vote bank among members of minority faiths as well as the Shia community in Karachi.
This speech could also strengthen the MQM's appeal abroad. While Pakistan and its political leadership is often criticised for not doing anything to deter militant groups and attacks on religious groups and minorities, the MQM will stand out. Part of Altaf's speech was made in English, which certainly helps underscore this point.
Altaf also hit out at the clerics assembled at the event, asking if they would ever practice what they preached. He did not spare the judiciary either, questioning the low conviction rate. "Murderers are arrested, then released and then they say the judiciary is 'independent'," Altaf said. "I ask Pakistan's people to also hold judges accountable ... in the same way that they hold their leaders. Ask them why they freed well-known killers."
Altaf asked clerics to form a committee on interfaith harmony. It features 13 of the clerics who attended the event. They passed a declaration condemning the murders of innocent people of all sects, the killings in Gilgit Baltistan, Quetta, Parachinar and Karachi, the suicide bombings at shrines and the targeted assassinations of clerics. They also termed members of minority faiths as Pakistanis and condemned efforts to destabilise Pakistan.
Clerics who attended the MQM gathering:
-Allama Abbas Kumaili
-Maulana Tanveerul Haq Thanvi
-Allama Mufti Mehmood Rizvi - Attock
-Allama Imran Habib - Rawalpindi
-Allama Syed Waqar Hussain - Lahore
-Allama Daud Agha - Balochistan
-Hafiz Mufti Hafeezur Rehman - Hyderabad
-Ameer Abdullah Farooqui
-Maulana Ahsan Rizvi Ibn Maulana Anees alHasnain Rizvi, Shah Khurasan
-Allama Syed Farman Raza Abidi - Lahore
-Maulana Rabbani - Jamia Binoria, Karachi
-Allama Syed Azhar Hussain Naqvi
-Allama Syed Akram Hussain Tirmizi
-Allama Syed Zaheer Abidi
-Qari Basheerul Haq Thanvi
-Allama Naseem Ahmed Siddiqui
-Mufti Mohammad Arif Syedi
-Qari Allahdad
-Hafiz Allama Qari Jamil Rathore
-Allama Haider Alvi - Islamabad
-Allama Naveed Ahmed - Chakwal
-Allama Qamar Iqbal Brohi - Jhelum
-Allama Asad Deobandi
-Qari Abdul Rehman - Quetta
-Allama Syed Hashim Mousavi - Quetta
-Allama Rai Muzammil - Faisalabad
-Allama Yaqoob Qadri - Nawabshah
-Syed Afzaal Zaidi - Nawabshah
-Mufti Nazim Nizami - Dargah Hazrat Khawaja Nizamuddin Aulia, Delhi, India
-Qari Abdul Hai
-Maulana Murtaza Rehmani
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Because he has Indian blood in him. Thats why he has guts to say against sectarians. He love peace like Indians. He is the only one to openly say division of India was a blunder!!! Jai Altaf!!!
I love this passionate concern about sectarian violence on one hand and being the biggest instigator of ethnic violence on the other.
if shia muslims are kafir, then pakistan was made by kafirs. MA jinnah was a shia. those who calls our shia brothers as kafirs, they also call pakistan as kafiristan.
@Ali Shair:
ET, please post this. Its Saudi Wahhabi inspired deluded and paranoid conspiracy. Unfounded, bigoted and twisted. Non-biased sane observers will tell you the hegemony since Zia belongs to a Sunni majority. Thanks for 'accepting' democracy as people of Pak, for better or worse, voted for PPP, who have minority Shia Pakistani politicians, but that's not an Iran conspiracy despite how one's bias rationalizes the hate of their presence.
Its intolerance of Shias period, and condoning of brutal and vicious violence on any twisted imagined pre-text or ideological excuse. The Shia Muslim victims killed weren't massacred because 'they' were overheard saying 'BED WORDS'. Wahhabi/Salafi/Deoband/Sunni Islamist extremism is behind more than 95% of acts of terrorism in Pak, if not globally. This insanity by Takfiri groups and Kharjities is un-Islamic, inhuman and must cease.
Only Altaf Bhai is great leader of the world
What practical steps has MQM and Altaf taken to stop sectarian killings in areas where they have received more votes than any other party?
where is my comment?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
First of all Pakistan is Majorette Sunni state, but since last Ten years SHIA's of Pakistan are to dominate on Pakistan through Iran's support. OK we can accept it but if they use BED WORDS against SAHABA we can not tolerate. Every body know Iran's want destroy Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is big defender of Saudi . Pakistan's detestably is only way for Shin's to control Haram Sharif.....Hope you under stand this conspiracy
Once again, Altaf Hussain and MQM have proven to be the party of the righteous. I am amazed how all other politicians and their parties are silent over the sectarian killings across Pakistan. We should take up this issue above politics and personal interests and for once think for a better future of our up coming generations.
I salute Mr. Altaf Hussain for his aloud stance over this issue.
Lets be united for Pakistan - lets raise our voices along with leaders like Altaf Hussain sahab who hav the courage to raise such an important issue! everyone living in Pakistan is a Pakistani regardless of their sect, religion and faith! I truly appreciate MQM and Altaf Hussain's bold stance on this very very important and crucial issue of Pakistan! Long live Pakistan!
If you r neutral in situation of justice, u have chosen the side of the oppressor. Altaf Hussain has spoken for the oppressed. And real men like Altaf Bhai don't take orders, wear silly uniforms, to justify their existence. may God bless u bhai and yes...#YOU ROCK!!
every thing is fine Altaf Bhai spoke and spoke good. But to give vote to MQM is still NO because they are partner of PPP and the story will repeat for next five years.
The fact is Pakistan army and intelligence agencies are highly overated thanks to our breed of inept and corrupt politicians they have maintained a superficial presence without actually doing any good for the country. they are just like any govt dept that is inefficient, corrupt and non accountable. Infact country was broken during army rule, afghan war and now were all army ideas concocted to please their true master the USA. How can they defend the country if they cant even protect their bases?
Altaf Bhai Thank you! what more can I say. G.A Altaf.
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I agree 100% with Mr Altaf Hussain, He is the only leader who can speak truth without any fear and rest of the politicians talk about going to waziristan , etc. I can say confidentally that if anyone can bring change to our society is only Altaf Hussain
Altafbhai must come to Karachi. Sitting in the UK cannot solve the problems of Karachi and Pakistan.
Sir, you said it all which others can not say. I totally agree with your deep concerns. People want to hear same from other leaders as well. Look the other day one girl by the name of Rimsha was put behind the bars under blasphemy law which has now proved to be planted by the cleric himself. Your speech should open the eyes and ears of all who matter most in the country.
@gp65: That's not so much because of Gandhi as for Nehru and Patel who did not listen to Gandhi’s advice for making Jinnah the first Prime Minister of United India. There are other causes but this is not the place to discuss them. However, now that Pakistan is a reality, let us accept it and work for peace. Thanks.
@Saad BP: Stop sitting behind a machine and assuming things which make you feel better m from defence Karachi and I am all for altaf Bhai. People like you need to accept MQM is indeed the most democratic party and is reality which exist and functions without any cruel wadayras and chaudhries.
I see no other leader besides this guy condemning attacks on minorities. At least he now proved it that its not him who is fascist but all those people who are afraid to condemn the sectarian killings. I have been following his statements for the past few days and I see no hate or venom in them. He just wants peace and prosperity. His latest statements made me support him. Good work Altaf Hussain.
@True Muslim Paki:
Your statement is kind of telling in 2 ways. One, that you fail to realize Sunni Pakistanis do vote for MQM and other parties too. Two, that PTI does not cater to minorities, such as Shias, and is exclusively only Sunni, contrasting the True Muslim Paki moniker.
Thanks for confirming what most of us already suspected.
The courage shown by Altaf Hussain is remarkable. No other leaders have shown such courage, for other leaders they can not take daring step to condemn the killing of shias because they fear of backfire of their statement and loss of their vote bank by speaking about such brutal murder of Shias. The statement of condemnation of murder of shias has brought his party in very much pressure in Karachi because the opponents have tried to twist his statement against sunni sect in the strong political hold Karachi. But Altaf Hussain has shown courage and repeated his statement. The step of Interfaith Harmony Ijlas is another milestone in the chapter of Karachi and Pakistan for peace and tranquility. After IJI there was no platform left for different sect to sit and reconcile on the matter of burning issues. JI has destroyed that platform by pulling out from it only for its demand of chairman ship of this alliance. Ulemas of all school of thought should join their hands to strengthen forum made by Altaf Hussain for overcoming the intolerance and interfaith harmony in Karachi and Pakistan.
It is only Mr. Altaf Hussain who raises his voice against Shai genocide.
@Justin Truthful: "However, realistically everywhere in Pakistan, all different faiths and sects are so mixed demographically, that it won’t be possible to create divisions of Pakistan in separate statehoods on the basis of religion or sect"
Think back to United India - was this also not the case then? Why else was such a large population transfer necessary?
@Ijaz Mir: what do mean by "(LUH)" . . . ????
Altaf is part and parcel of the present Government. Your accusation that the Govt. is involved in "this shia genocide" implicates him? Do you have any proof that the judiciary is “involved?”
Thank You Very Much QET Janab Altaf Hussain Bhai
No one is saying that Altaf Bhai is wrong. But there is a difference between an ordinary person and a great leader. Leaders lead nations from front. We are very anxiously waiting for him to return and lead us.
sitting miles away & talking.... Geo Bhai great going... lol
Good advice to Ulema to be careful with their speech. Also, advise against use of loudspeakers and hate speech by all and sundry. Allow loudspeakers only for azan. Make religion a private affair only.
Pakistan is not a brittle toy that would break at every turn to play with it.
Election time is near MQM is finding ways to leave the Gov. and secure the vote bank.
I Watch Today Mr. Altaf Addressing To Ullma Karam. Tears In eyes And Appealing To Every One To Get United Against Extremism Thank You Mr. Altaf Husssain. ALLAH Bless On You Always Ameen
Altaf Bhai you are 100% right. But you also shear the blame as your party is part and parcel of current government and previous governments.Have you ever thought of root cause of this trouble we are facing.Can you do some thing about this? NO Your party and with the Blessing of General Zia(LUH) imported the wahhabi ism in to this country. These Wahhabi's.believe that they are the only legitimate Muslims rest are infidels.. Wahhabi's of SAUDES ARABIA live in luxury with petrodollars and exporting Selefis to Pakistan to send them to stone age and live on the generosity of Arab Godfathers.
@Nand Lal Jethani: Pakistan will sort out its problems through these crises. Let us remain hopeful but also do much to salvage the situation and the Government have a lot of responsibility in this area as well. Let it improve its performance, particularly in the matter of protecting minorities, which are our trust.
And what about linguistic animosity? Is it bringing bonding, love and peace?
“If people are not provided protection, Pakistan will break into pieces. Christian, Barelvis, and Shias’ will demand a separate state for themselves,” warned Altaf. Definitely, there is an extremely pressing need to safeguard the security and inviolability of all Pakistanis, especially of the minorities. However, realistically everywhere in Pakistan, all different faiths and sects are so mixed demographically, that it won’t be possible to create divisions of Pakistan in separate statehoods on the basis of religion or sect. Besides, centripetal forces are not going to let the centrifugal tendencies to prevail.
Qaid e Azam's Pakistan finished with Bangladesh formation. Bangladesh is closer to the great Quad's vision today than the current Pakistan. Unfortunately the situation is deteriorating rapidly in Pakistan for all but more so for minority communities.
Altaf Hussain is the only leader who has guts & courage to speak & point out the real danger & speak about it openly. I heard on TV one scholar was saying that "Allah has send Quaid-e-Azam to MAKE Pakistan & send HUSSIAN to SAVE Pakistan in the form of Altaf Hussain"
Why is that no one from Pakistan has the courage to speak against this barbaric situation being faced by innocent citizen ? is it not a shame for the civil society and social media that we are not coming forward and contribute for this pure humanitarian cause?
@Peace Lover Quaid-e-Azam was neither Shia nor Sunni but why people are being killing in Pakistan based on their sect and religion. This great Quaid Muhammad Ali Jinnah had promised a state where every one has free will to observe his religious practices but than why in his Pakistan religious and sectarian minorities are targeted and the nation in general remain silent ? If Pakistani nation doesn't unite against these extremist where the minorities search for Quaid-e-Azam's Pakistan ?
@ Freedom Seeker, Its very easy to score points while sitting outside in a safe evironment, but very hard to come back and lead the nation. The MQM is in the government for many many years and it has threatened to leave government on different issues but it has never threatened govenment regarding this matter.
Though the issue of security and wellbeing of each and every Pakistani is of paramount importance, which must be attended to with all sincerity but is has become quite trendy to forecast the end of Pakistan at the turn of any crisis of any magnitude.
Our condition might reflect the condition of Somalia or Iraq, if we don't stop this sectarian strife at once and for all. Atleast MQM is pointing toward the right danger. Everyone should take his responsibility and should not only raise voice but should stand up united against all these.
Atlaf/his party should resign from the Govt. Sitting in parliament making popular statements and blaming the security forces as well as the justice system is very easy........btw the role of SC is to punish based on facts and according to the constitution - may of the terrorist have been granted bail or have been freed given their is no amendment in constitution that cover's terrorism....the bill has been in parliament for last 3 years and politicians are sitting on it and with no urgency.
How many security chief / intelligence / as well as security staff have our government fired for no doing their job? - non and the reason is simple, majority of our politicians are corrupt and have no character nor integrity. So easy to shift the blames Mr. Altaf, but no worries these corrupt politicians / leader as well as you will be back into action soon, and in run up to election suddenly you will start making statement that make sense before again focusing on power and control.
Corrupt, in-competent, selfish and ignorant leadership (mullahs included) is the biggest reason we lost East Pakistan, and trust me this will be the reason once again we will loose more of Pakistan before there is no Pakistan left.
Pakistan Phir bhi Zinadand
I as an outsider cannot see Shias and other groups demanding a state.
When Muslims asked for Partition, the majority were Hindus. Hindus are not a martial society. Violence is not the first weapon. Despite the many acts of violence, like in Godhra, India is largely a peaceful society. That explains the directions 2 countries have taken since partition.
The majority in Pakistan are, well, I will not go ahead and describe for the fear of being censured by ET. The majority have plenty of violent groupings willing to butcher in Pakistan's name to stop a separate being formed, the luxury of which Hindus never had.
Pakistan will stay intact, but not many people from the free world, or within Pakistan, for that matter, would want to live in such a Pakistan.
Hindus are getting out while the going is good, it will only get much worse from here.
The great Quad was neither a Shia nor a Sunni as he is reputed to have said in the last years of his life that he was simply a Muslim. No innocent Shia or Sunni, or anyone for that matter, should be killed, period. It is laudable to raise voice against the killing of Shia's but at the same time; to be fair, one also needs to address the issue of the recent killings of the Sunnis in Karachi's areas of Water Pump, and Nagan Chowrangi, areas with dominant MQM presence. Peace to all. And, one should stop short of predictions of the breaking of the federation, which is stronger than most imagine.
@Ch. Allah Daad you are insane. If Hussein is raising his voice for survival of Pakistan don't mix it with politics. This country was established by a Shia and financed by a Shia. Now if you kill same people and try to finish them. Then this country will finish with them.
Was this kind of discrimination meted out to Bangladeshis too... I doubt, this kind of psyche might have roots right from the inception of Pakistan..
British citizen should only pass comments on Britian
He's trying to get minority votes. But inshallah, all sunni's will vote for imran khan.
Altaf is a great
HUMAN LOVER
.As soon as Altaf Bhai foretells the 'breaking' of Pakistan. He earns the respect of every ET commentor who might be living in Dubai, New York or Mumbai. The rest don't care because they live in Pakistan which survived at least 210056973 prophecies of breaking into 7( and counting) pieces
We should ask the ones sending drones to target all those killings shias as well .
Can you please come to pakistan and assume leadership role?
Like other Pakistani political leaders, you also talk and talk though bit loudly and boldly. But remain informed that time of talking since long has lapsed. Due to such brutal killings you identified the end result of country very rightly. However once in year 2010 when Ahamdies were murdered in mass, you took a bold stance but on receiving threat from extremist Mullahs you immediately withdrew your statements. Might be for Shias you also do the same. If at all you seem to be sincere with the cause of restoration of human rights in Pakistan then take some strict instance rather than uttering mere words. In the past MQM has been departing away with Government to exercise pressure. Why can not you do it now if MQM really gives some weight to this aspect.
Well said But please do something about it.MQM is in Government
Bold statement and need of the hour. Pity the silence from not only from the establish but the media, politicians and religious parties strong text
no sheet sherlock!
People of the area need a government or state which can give them basic human right to live, what is in the name, call it Pakistan or whatever.
Once you taste country-breaking, you just can't stop!
Altaf always speaks truth and discusses after effects of every
ZULM
.I dont like him, but he is right.
Its to worry what Mr. Altaf Hussain is saying. Its not sovereignty but survival of Pakistan on line. Is there any one who can take some action?
i cant agree with you more.
bravo. soon all sensible sakeholders will be talking the same language but all credit goes to altaf for being the first to speak up. united we stand divided we fall
Every one knows that, but the actual task is that who is going to stop the sectarian killings?
Who has the gusts to do that?
MQM is a coalition partner in the government.
Can MQM stop the sectarian killings in Karachi, what to talk about the entire Pakistan.
Drastic steps and unshakable resolve is needed to curb the menace, which has roots deep inside the very top in the judiciary as well. These top judges due to their religious believes unleash the terrorists to go and butcher Pakistanis under the excuse of a lack of evidence. While, for Ali Musa, they consider the affidavit of a law enforcement official as credible, in case of these barbarians, it is not credible.
Time is now to bypass these mullah-friendly-judiciary and carry out a clean up operation of the kind of Karachi Operation, but this time against Mullahs all over Pakistan.
People are being butchered, and SC is busy making commissions for protecting the "rights" of a single individual, the son of the CJ.
Altaf Bhai Thank you! what more can I say. G.A Altaf.
Well done Altaf BHai
I appreciate the way you talk against the shea massacre. nobody dares here to speak for sheas who are being killed by yazeedi force.
I have actually started respecting Mr Altaf Hussain.
Thank you Mr. Altaf Huassin for saying this in support of the minorities and Shias. May Allah bless you with long life, and condemn the politicians who are maintaining studied silence on such a critical issue.
Who else in Pakistan, being a leader of 6% representation say this so openly, and challenge the security agencies.
It's not only sectarian killings but violence agains non-muslims in pakistan that poses a grave threat to the peace of our society.The persecution of non-muslims in pakistan has reached alarming heights.It's time our society stopped persecuting Atheists,agnostics,hindus,christians,parsis,ahmadis. The 97% have nothing to fear from the 3%,it's time the persecution stopped.
Only Altaf Hussain has the guts to speak up...