Islamabad refuses to hand over ex-ISI chief to Bosnia tribunal

Published: September 20, 2011

The trial of Ratko Mladic at the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, where the Hague charged Mladic with genocide, and crimes against humanity. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: 

Pakistan has refused to hand over one of its retired army generals to the International Tribunal of Hague on medical grounds, official sources told The Express Tribune.

The tribunal had demanded the custody of a former chief of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Javed Nasir, a retired lieutenant general, for his alleged support to Muslim fighters of Bosnia against the Serbian army in the 1990s, despite an embargo by the United Nations.

Islamabad had informed the court that the former general had ‘lost his memory’ following a recent road incident, and was, therefore, unable to face any investigation into the matter.

Nasir himself was not available for comment. However, his son, Omer Javed, told The Express Tribune that his father was not in service during the Bosnia war in 1993-95, as he had already been “removed from the army”.

The summons came when Serbian army officials were put on trial by The Hague Tribunal for war crimes and crimes against humanity in Bosnia, during which it was revealed that Nasir was actively involved in the war and had supported and provided arms to the Bosnian resistance.

(Read: Karadzic war crimes trial witness details horrors)

The case was built on a ‘confessional statement’ that Nasir made in a petition filed by his legal counsel against an English daily after the newspaper published a report of his alleged involvement in embezzlement.

The former general in a petition filed in an anti-terrorism court in Lahore on October 23, 2002 had disclosed that “despite the UN ban on supply of arms to the besieged Bosnians, he successfully airlifted sophisticated anti-tank guided missiles which turned the tide in favour of Bosnian Muslims and forced the Serbs to lift the siege, much to the annoyance of the US government”.

Nasir further stated that he “became a target of US, Indian and secular-minded lobbies both inside and outside Pakistan.” Having failed to buy him off, he said, the US government started a propaganda campaign against him and demanded his removal as ISI chief – warning that, otherwise, “Pakistan would be declared a terrorist state”.

He further stated that over 300 articles were circulated on the internet by the western media which contained references dubbing Nasir the ‘only radical Islamist head of the ISI who was an active member of the Tableeghi Jamaat’.

In April 1993, the US finally warned Pakistan in writing to remove the complainant from his post of ISI chief – following which Nasir was prematurely retired from service by the caretaker government of Mir Balkh Sher Mazari on May 13, 1993, he stated.

The demand for Nasir’s custody came when the International Criminal Tribunal put on trial the former chief of the Yugoslavia army Gen Momcilo Perisic and his deputy Gen Ratko Mladic for war crimes and crimes against humanity during the war in Bosnia and Croatia in the 1990s.

(Read: Accountability for war crimes)

Perisic and Ratko had reportedly told the court that the military help to the Bosnian Muslims by Gen Nasir forced them to retaliate against Bosnian Muslims, who were fighting against the Serb army for their national independence.

The authorities concerned declined to comment on the matter.

The Bosnian War followed the break-up of Yugoslavia in 1991, when Serbs, Croats and Muslims fought for control of Bosnia-Herzegovina. Tactics used by the three factions were complex; allegiances changed as two sides would join forces against the third.

More than 100,000 people died after three-and-a-half years of conflict. The city of Sarajevo was in a state of permanent siege for the duration of the war.

The war saw a level of barbarism more marked than normal conflict. Mass rape, torture and indiscriminate murder were frequently carried out until the Dayton Peace Agreement paved the way for a settlement.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 20th,  2011.

Reader Comments (106)

  • Tariq
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:04AM

    Amazing how Pakistani politicians, Zardari, had heart problems and was bipolar for his court apprearances in Europe and now Pakistani Army generals have lost their memory based upon an alleged auto accident. This guy should be sent to the Hague as per the treaty and let him say all these things in front of judges, not the gutless ones in Pakistan, but real judges

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  • guest-worker
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:32AM

    Normally they would not even give him a visit visa to any western country and now they want him “handed over”. He should have smuggled nukes into Europe instead anti tank rockets.

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  • Arindom
    Sep 20, 2011 - 9:27AM

    Wow! the ISI has been quite active, hasn’t it, earning more name and fame for Pakistan!!

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  • Adeel Ahmed
    Sep 20, 2011 - 9:40AM

    Proud of this man… what a service to Muslims and mankind this guy has done.
    You never hand over your heroes to foreigners… You never hand over your citizens to foreigners… Period.

    Anyways, salute to this man.
    Bosnians will forever respect Pakistan and Pakistanis for the effort of this one man.

    Respect.Recommend

  • faraz
    Sep 20, 2011 - 9:54AM

    He even supported Xingiang resistance against China; that was why he was removed

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  • MUNIB
    Sep 20, 2011 - 9:54AM

    Is there any corner of the world which is safe from our GHQ ?

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  • moon
    Sep 20, 2011 - 10:09AM

    I am amazed how people comment on matters they never had any knowledge about. Keep blaming Judiciary and the Generals on write-ups, no matter how serious and important that issue is for the Nation or the Umma…… Where does the question of Nukes come here. Shouldn’t we be careful while commenting on any thing? Are we unintentionally working on some one’s agenda?
    May ALLAH PAK BLESS such brainless ones…

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  • MAD
    Sep 20, 2011 - 10:24AM

    I salute the man. What he did was absolutely correct.

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  • malik
    Sep 20, 2011 - 10:30AM

    There is something called the Rule of Law. If you are a member of UN, you should adhere to their rules and regulations.
    We have no qualms towards appealing to UN for giving us money for tackling flood crisis. But, when they pass an embargo, we just ignore it, thinking that we can brazen it out on the strength of the opinion of Ummah.
    I don’t know why the Pak government is always walking on the wrong side of ethical behaviour !Recommend

  • Pundit
    Sep 20, 2011 - 10:33AM

    Another feather in ISI’s cap…….and now sudden mass amnesia!
    Pakistan has no credibility left !
    And then Pakistanis wonder why no one cares to lend a helping hand in flood relief!Recommend

  • Kafka
    Sep 20, 2011 - 10:37AM

    Muslims were at the receiving end during the Bosnian war. UN failed to provide them safety. Their was an ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Bosnia. I would stand behind the General as he broke the laws to save lives.

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  • Proud Pakistani
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:07AM

    When the brave & honest General , supplied the arms despite UN ban on supply of arms to the besieged Bosnians, he must face the music, if he does not look around what happend, it will the people of Pakistan left to face the music for his deeds this is not acceptable.

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  • shazada loan
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:09AM

    i am surprised by some of the comments made by fellow Pakistanis concerning General Nasir. He is a great man and a hero to Muslims that were viciously brutalised by the West. The court at the Hague is neither International nor a court – it is nothing more than the tool used by the anti Muslim European dicators and American Christians. It is about time Pakistan left the Hague protocol – given no american or European has been investigated let alone prosecuted. The Americans have genocidally killed millions in Iraq and Afghanistan while the Europeans have helped the americans to kill many Muslims at the present and in the past. The International Court of Justice at the Hague should be dismantled and the people running it sent home. Well done general Nasir. You have my full support – anyone thinking of it otherwise should be careful.
    Shazada Loan

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  • saleem
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:20AM

    If General Nasir really helped the Bosnian while Bill Clinton was holding back and the Dutch under NATO let thousands be butchered in Srebenica. Than he should be awarded a Nishan e Haider. His other activities related to Tableeghi jamaat notwithstanding.

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  • Concerned Pakistani
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:23AM

    No one is looking at the real issue here. The US notified Pakistan in writing to remOve it’s intelligence chief and it did! How can Pakistan allow other countries to dictate to it such important internal matters? If Pakistan was not sovereign then, I shudder to think what the situation is now!

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  • Osama Shah
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:37AM

    Watching Bosnians killed just because they were Muslims was a cruel act….
    Serbians were taught a lesson they’ll never forget…. & the Americans till the war was on Serbs favor was quite spectator,, & when the tie was turned in favor of Muslims, they brought the UN Treaty…. How Cute !!

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  • ovais tauheed
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:42AM

    well some childlike minds are talking about adhering to un commitment when everybody knows it is a tool of western world to use against islam and other thirdworld countries,where is UN IN palestine kashmir,afganistan,iraq libya,wake up before it too late.support your army,govt and national defence,no matter how bad it is.ur country is next varie,they might not attack you but they have been successful in creating discord and confusion in your land.

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  • AH
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:46AM

    Any law, UN or International, should apply equally to all the signatories and if there is one gross neglegece for one country then it gives the right to others to use the law in their favor as well. Look at Israel, US and many other nations who only serve the interests of their own nation and citizen. Why shouldn’t Pakistan do the same. By saying so, it must not be understood that this general is guilty. He is wanted only on alleged crime and Pakistan should never hand him over. If he is convicted with credible evidence. Then it should be upto Pakistan to prosecute him. Pakistan is not a signatory of ICC and it’s jurisdiction does not apply to Pakistan.

    On the other hand, if you talk about UN and it’s Law, then first of all apply this law equally to everyone and take the Veto rights away from US, Russia, China, UK and France. What give them this right to choose their judgement in favor of themselves or their friends?

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  • ameer
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:49AM

    we must respect and protect our millitary personnels who have faced all the challenges with unflenched courage and secured our homeland from foreign aggression.we should not hand over our heroes to the enemies.pakistanies must keep in mind that international forces have been trying hard to disintegrate only islamic atomic power but pakistan army is only institution that have prevented them from doing so.as a result evil forces have decided to individually target our millitary personnels .it is time for us to stand by our army and strenghthen it to combate anti pakistan elements. mic power but pakistan army is only institution that have prevented them from doing so.as a result evil forces have decided to individually target our millitary personnels .it is time for us to stand by our army and strenghthen it to combate anti pakistan elements.

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  • AJ
    Sep 20, 2011 - 11:54AM

    No matter what, this guy supported our fellow muslims abroad and the christians do the same, though american generals are never punished for the war crimes they helped to commit all over the world.

    Just saying there shouldn’t be any double standards, it should be same for all. Not even a single american general is brought to the international criminal court so why should be we give our past general.

    P.S George W. Bush is also wanted the international criminal court, we aren’t they sending him there. Just saying no double standards. Should be the same for everyone.Recommend

  • Faiz
    Sep 20, 2011 - 12:06PM

    @ malik:

    Yes, there is a rule of law, but did you think even for a second that mighty nations of the world didn’t even bother to obey the rules and laws of UN.

    If ISI was helping the Bosnian Muslims, then there are proofs that Musad and CIA were supporting the other factions in the Bosnia.

    And more important, who gave a licence to CIA to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, it is the puppet UN. In this world might is right. In my view, General Javed has performed his duty with sincerity to support the Muslims of Bosnia.

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  • Zohair
    Sep 20, 2011 - 12:32PM

    Good to hear my naive friends about respecting the treaty and following the law. why does the law only comes into play when someone like Gen Javed is involved. lets summon Clinton, Bush, Obama, Rumsfled etc also along with Gen Javed (for this crime) for their war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Pakistan etc. oh….the only damage they have done is “collateral damage” which is completely acceptable to the liberal brigade. i think we should start analyzing the situation before following western propoganda schemes to show ourselves as the enlightened and liberal beings.

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  • Barry Richard
    Sep 20, 2011 - 12:34PM

    I think Paksitan should be proud of such man who has done something commendable to help Bosnaian Muslims against Serbian Criminals Army.He should be honoured by Pakistan Army.Recommend

  • Sajjad
    Sep 20, 2011 - 12:36PM

    If Briton and US can go anywhere in world for action then why not Pakistan. We should also takecare of Kashmir, Palestine, Iraq, Sudan and Afghnistan.

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  • Khurram
    Sep 20, 2011 - 12:47PM

    Well done Pakistan that we helped our brothers in Bosnia. FN allowed serbs to mass killing muslims. It was done by Holland forces who gavce muslims men to serbs who killed them in 1000s. If it wasnt for muslims brother from Pakistan etc they would be no muslims left !!!

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  • Adeel759
    Sep 20, 2011 - 12:56PM

    If Serbians couldn’t keep their heroes from being extradited to Hague, you think a CMH’s Captain Dr’s certificate would. If our politicians and Judges cant hold them accountable atleast there is someone who can. This another adventurer should be handed over and served justice. Trust me it will help Pakistan from every dimension. But there is going to be a standoff……bravo mis-adventureresRecommend

  • Ali
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:07PM

    He helped fellow muslim brothers in Bosnia to save them from ethenic cleansing by Serbs. UN should appreciate his efforts for saving lives of innocent civilians.

    By the way, see the hypocracy of UN. They are providing wars to rebels in Libya who are trying to topple a ligitimate goverment. And on Bosnia, they imposed embargo which was under attack. Why they did not ask Russia why it was providing arms to Serbs during the conflict. And why the whole world was silent on massacre.

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  • Ozymandias
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:19PM

    The man is a hero. This is the same war in which the UN dilly-dallied while thousands were being massacred and rapes, where UN peacekeepers looked on as Serbs butchered Bosnians at Srebrenica. He deserves a medal. Unjust laws must not be obeyed.

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  • Faisal Goraya
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:21PM

    We should not hand over the great son of a great mother to the rats named as judges who did nothing to save Kashmiris and Palestinians but just keep on alleging Muslims in fake cases based on Jewish sponsored Media. Shame on You the judges of ICJ.
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  • Vigilant
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:22PM

    We all know what happened in bosnia….who killed who….who supported who….who supplied arms to who….is their any general form Russia is summoned??….it is the right thing to block any move from Hague court….General did a right thing….saved thousands….
    this was not the only way Pakistani forces were invovled in bosnian conflict….they were deployed as part of UN peacekeeping forces to protect bosnian population

    @guest-worker
    Any leader or general from Europe convicted of smuggling of nukes into middle-east(Israel)??….

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  • Alsahdiq
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:31PM

    Let us all just think about this matter in context of worsening relations with the “Might is right” attitude of some diamond heads in Washington.
    Is it the UN that is after this admirable Lt.Gen and why this matter has cropped up now?
    Do we not know that the strings of the UN are pulled by those diamond heads in Washington?
    This answers everything we want to know.

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  • vasan
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:33PM

    If Pakistanis are so keen on supporting the muslims irrespective of national boundaries, why are they not helping their ummah in China ie uighers ? Were they supporting both Iran and Iraq during the forgotten wars between them. Why cant ISI act against Israel?

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  • Muhammad Ayaz
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:37PM

    Do the judges at the Hague have courage to summon Mr. George W. Bush for genocide of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan or they were just cockroaches. Can they dare to bring Netanyahoo for killing innocent Palestinian women & children???

    Great General. We should all salute his courage.

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  • Mariam b
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:38PM

    Super power not so powerful when it comes to ISI

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  • Sadia
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:45PM

    @guest-worker:
    am apalled at this comment.

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  • Sadia
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:45PM

    @Arindom:
    and a very bad name at that.

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  • Sadia
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:48PM

    @Adeel Ahmed:
    you cannot have one person acting against state interests. it’s Pakistanis’ delusional view as leaders of jihad that has landed us in the sorry state we are in.

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  • Sadia
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:55PM

    @shazada loan:
    Well, let me ask you this question: why doesn’t any muslim country indict George Bush in the International Court of Justice. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait (they certainly have the resources to do so), Egypt, Pakistan? Because it is so much easier to rant and rave against the evil europeans and americans, rather than do something about it. and by ‘something’, I do not mean the so-called ‘global jihad’.

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  • Mj
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:56PM

    I am not a supporter of proxy wars and armed militias, however in light of the recent conflict seen in Libya, where Qatar has provided arms to rebels, I think for once ISI took the right step. This is not an issue of ‘ummah’ or ‘religion’ rather that Bosians were being massacred left and right. There would have been no need of arms smuggling had NATO taken action sooner. Still, I applaud Nato for taking action and ending the bloodshed.

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  • Zaidu
    Sep 20, 2011 - 1:58PM

    Good decision. We are a sovereign state and we cannot allow any such step.

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  • Roflcopter
    Sep 20, 2011 - 2:02PM

    We need more great generals like him.

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  • vasan
    Sep 20, 2011 - 2:43PM

    Pakistan is not as powerful as US to invade in some other country’s internal problems without
    UN authorization. POking nose will get your nose cut. Why didnt Pakistan involve in the forgotten Iran Iraq war?Recommend

  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    Sep 20, 2011 - 2:58PM

    Where is Lt Gen Hamid Gul ..???? Jawed Nasir must be checked by doctors whether he is fit or unfit to face the trial rather than believing those whom no one believes any where in the world. Crime is crime and Charity is Charity.

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  • Rizwan
    Sep 20, 2011 - 3:14PM

    What to say about the atrocities committed to Muslims in Bosnia by the Serbian army and so called civilized world (European& Americans) kept on watching the massacres.

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  • haris
    Sep 20, 2011 - 3:21PM

    @Kafka:
    Count me in too.
    Those who believe he has committed a crime by supporting the suppressed people to stand on their own then should first keep quiet and secondly go to the internet and read the petition filled by Kathrin Bolkovoc (former UN peacekeeper) in which she told horrific atrocities of Bosina committed by all factions of UN peace keeping mission. He saved a nation and must be deservedly awarded the Nishan-e-Haider for his services in Bosnia. Salaam to him and his services.
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  • haris
    Sep 20, 2011 - 3:25PM

    @Pundit:
    Being a Pakistani, I am overwhelmingly proud of what he did ans so does the Bosnians.

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  • Bangladeshi
    Sep 20, 2011 - 4:26PM

    This guy is definitely a hero of the whole muslim world if he really did what the UN says he did. I think Pakistanis should feel proud of this man & his service to humanity. But then again you guys also have some western breed seculars. The biggest threat to each and every muslim country in the world is not the west but this self enlightened seculars who suffer from inferiority complex and pass their time bashing anything and everything related to Islam and muslims. The solution to this problem is teaching school going kids Islamic history and the true face western civilization. I think its high time muslim countries should follow their own education caricullum rather than importing western caricullum . Muslim countries have the intellectual and scientific capability to do that and I pray to almighty Allah that muslim countries have their own education system powered by muslim intellectuals and only then can muslim rise as world leaders again. The chinese , koreans & japanese all teach history books written by their own scholars not written by western scholars and as a result their kids grow up learning the true history and culture of their people and this also strenghten their patriotism.

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  • ALI
    Sep 20, 2011 - 4:33PM

    A salute to this man for standing against the murderes and rapers. he did make me proud and I would love to meet him if I was lucky enough. Its really painful to read comments of people criticizing him for what tremendous services he gave to humainty and bosnian people who were killed like insects and buried collectively in one grave. Recommend

  • Dinesh Chetti
    Sep 20, 2011 - 4:43PM

    @Kafka:
    ok then what about the ethnic cleansing of bengali muslims in east pakistan ??? Internal matter huh ???

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  • Dinesh Chetti
    Sep 20, 2011 - 4:45PM

    @Sajjad:
    First take care of small city called Karachi.

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  • Osama Shah
    Sep 20, 2011 - 4:51PM

    @ vasan.. Pakistan favours Muslim Ummah wherever it is needed…. In Bosnia, it was a genuine case & Bosnians will never forget this favor…..
    FYI, Pakistan has shot down more Israeli Planes then any other country in the world….
    Pakistan is there whereever muslims are in trouble…. Bosnia, Chechniya, Kashmir, Georgia, Albania, Afghanistan, Cyprus (Turkish)… Even Haram Shareef….
    Proud of ISI…..

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  • Chaudhry Allah Daad
    Sep 20, 2011 - 5:11PM

    It was relentless bombing by NATO which turned the tide in favour of Bosnian Muslims and Croats. One or two plane loads of weapons did only harm to Bosniaian Muslims, Please don’t try to re-write history books.Recommend

  • Pundit
    Sep 20, 2011 - 5:59PM

    @ saleem: He would have been awarded a Nishan e Haider but he has forgotten all about it and might blurt out the truth!

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  • Naeem Siddiqui
    Sep 20, 2011 - 6:07PM

    I am proud of Javed Nasir, he did nothing wrong instead he helped people who are oppressed, prosecuted and killed.

    If NATO can help the oppressed people in Libya why can’t Pakistan help oppressed people in Bosnia.

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  • Qasim
    Sep 20, 2011 - 6:13PM

    The UN is just a tool the west uses, it is silent when the west gets together and kills millions of civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, but raises alot of noise when Pakistan arms Bosnians that were being slaughtered while the west watched and did nothing. To all those people with their heads buried in the sand talking about “Pakistan always being on the wrong side of ethical behavior” – why do these ethics stop mattering when it suits the west, and why don’t western-approved attrocities and crimes against humanity matter to you.

    Hats off to the General. He put his career at risk to save the lives of tens of thousands. Quiet a surprise the Serbs got – they expected the Bosnians to be helpless against their armoured onslaught, and Pakistan armed them with our anti-tank weaponry. It wasn’t the latest&greatest tech, but we gave what we had and Alhamdulilah it made a difference. It saved lives.Recommend

  • Cautious
    Sep 20, 2011 - 6:14PM

    Typical Pakistan — ignores international law by using “non state actor” — denies it was using “non state actor” but uses the State to protect the “non state actor”. Pakistan must think the rest of the World is insane — just more reasons that Pakistan has a terrible reputation.Recommend

  • Tahir Amjad
    Sep 20, 2011 - 6:45PM

    thanks God we have such brave peoples in our ranks..he rendered his duty and helped bosnians to defend themselves from the wrath of fascist serbians…may Allah bless him for the services he rendered to helpless bosnian muslims..hats off.

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  • Rahul
    Sep 20, 2011 - 6:45PM

    @malik:
    The smartest comment i have read on this post.

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  • Irshad Khan
    Sep 20, 2011 - 6:52PM

    Mr. Osama Shah, you have disclosed many confidential things to public, you seems to be very resourceful and well informed person. Kindly let us know where Israeli planes were shot down by Pakistan? Kindly also make us aware about details of help of Pakistan in many other countries, you named. Kindly inform us whether the brave General had taken permission from Army Chief and head of state for his adventure, involving lot of expenditure?
    We should keep in mind that we are a poor country, though there are very rich countries in Muslim world (58 countries) but why they are not worried about sufferings of Muslims any-where in the world except us, while our own people are dying due to hunger and begging for one roti on roads. They are homeless and have no necessities of life available to them. To supply arms to so many countries is very costly affair beside harmful, thus your information is totally baseless and just a boasting.
    Pakistani citizens need to be attended first of all and then anybody else, if we have surplus money.Recommend

  • Feroz
    Sep 20, 2011 - 6:53PM

    I can see from the comments that being Muslim is more important than rule of Law. Should anyone wonder why the country is going to the evils ?Recommend

  • shoaib
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:01PM

    how come the arms embargo was only imposed on the bosnians and not the yugoslavians who were slaughtering innocent muslims? how do u expect inncocent people to defend themselves from an army which was equipped with state of the art weapons? for me gen javed nasir is a hero. maybe everyone should watch this documentary and try and understand what exactly happened in bosnia.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vBm02fbyuw

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:03PM

    U.N dont see gaza and kashmir Recommend

  • Hairaan
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:17PM

    @malik:
    Only Pakistan should obey the UN regulations. Others like India, Israel, US, UK, France, Sri Lanka, etc. can do whatever they feel fit for their national cause.

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  • Tahir Amjad
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:19PM

    Thanks God we have such brave men in our ranks.He stood guard aginst the killers of humanity,helped his muslim brehren in bosnia to defend themsemselves from the wrath of serb barbarians.He should be admired and saluted for the great services he rendered to the bosnian muslims and brought us some honour.May Allah bless him.hats off

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  • Cautious
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:20PM

    Pakistani’s would be quite disappointed to know that in Bosnia American’s are considered hero’s — and if you asked them if Pakistan deserves Kudo’s you will get a blank stare.

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:29PM

    I think if pakistan helped Bosnia innocent peoples then they deserved peace medal for
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  • Noor
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:30PM

    @Osama Shah:
    Dude were you living on another Planet in the nineties??
    The Americans bombed the Serbs to hell .. and they weren’t doing the Muslims any favors. The American intervention in the Balkans was designed to counter Russian influence and secure access to the central asian ‘stans’.

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  • Umair Waheed Sheikh, Khayban e Hafiz,IBA Karachi
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:35PM

    This terrorist must be executed or given to the Hague. Breaking the law even if one thinks one is on the right side of it is wrong.

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  • M.A.S
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:36PM

    It’s quite clear when Pakistani govt openly supported Bosnians muslims. At the same time send it’s troops on peace mission there. There are lots of stories in Africa as well for uplifting local community statuses and providing them great service to empower them socially.

    Well done Pakistan Army and ISI. Proud of you as always.

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  • shoaib
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:44PM

    how come the arms embargo was only imposed on the bosnians and not on the yugoslavians who were busy slaughtering innocent muslims? for me gen javed nasir is nothing less than a hero.Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Sep 20, 2011 - 7:51PM

    Those of us who support or oppose a military general because of his religious get up need have a rethink of their mindsets that cant think out of a box. The real issue is whether or not the internatioak law and institutions are playing a fair play. In many cases they are not. Many of the powerful countries have been involved in war crimes and in crimes against humanity africa, latin america and asia but no one cares. Justice should be done, but across the board. Perhaps beginning with nato crimes first.Recommend

  • BruteForce
    Sep 20, 2011 - 8:07PM

    There is ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Xinjiang, China too. But, nobody seems interested from Pakistan to do anything about it.

    I wonder why? Is it because China gives Pakistan money and weapons? Is money greater than the sympathy for another Human Being, who is following Islam?

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  • Rasheed
    Sep 20, 2011 - 8:14PM

    It is only a matter of understanding, saving thousands of men, women and children from rape and torture was I think a service to humanity. Proud of the General who literally sacrificed his today for our tomorrow.

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  • Honorliving
    Sep 20, 2011 - 8:15PM

    First this “General Nasir” guy should be tried in pakistan for braking our law and code of army conduct only then he should be handed over. The money he spent was the pakistani tax payers money that should have spent for pakistanis health and education.

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  • Ali
    Sep 20, 2011 - 8:21PM

    @malik:
    flood appeal ? that is our right to ask UN to help us raise funds
    as for arms embargo did france respect the arms embargo on Libya ?

    real trouble makers in this world are India and NATO
    not Pakistan
    Know your enemy

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  • Romm
    Sep 20, 2011 - 8:22PM

    instead of Rattling on issue we must know which state has opposed and refused to Accept the jurisdiction of international criminal court. Its USA…… So we should think before giving vague comments.Recommend

  • FAZ
    Sep 20, 2011 - 8:48PM

    I think every intelligence agency has something to hide. But you always clean your footsteps!! Nasir should have thought that before. I guess he is the same as evry pakistani! Hosh k bajey josh say kam karnay wala!!!

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  • Freeman
    Sep 20, 2011 - 9:42PM

    @malik: I think CIA have done more dangrous things than ISI. None of the World region is safe from CIA. Will American govenment ever handed over any agent or their army officer to internetional organisations, Never Despite they have done crimes against humanity. TEHN Why Pakistan hand over its own X-army officer?

    This army officer have protected poor people from the brutle regime and saved them from barbarians.

    International laws are only implemeted on poor countries only.

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  • Freeman
    Sep 20, 2011 - 9:51PM

    @vasan: This pakistani Officer did really good thing to save un-armed and poor people from brabarian regime. He made us proud becasue he did the right thing.

    @vasan: Are you saying if big power do the same thing that is justified to do and if a poor country’s officer do it then its wrong? GROW UP.

    Did America get UN Authorisation when attacked on Iraq???

    I think you should stop pocking your nose in these matters.

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  • WhatsInAName
    Sep 20, 2011 - 9:54PM

    Long Live this general if he had sided with the poor Muslims of Bosnia when they were being ethnically cleansed by the oppressors.

    Let us all salute this man all others like him.

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  • sohaib
    Sep 20, 2011 - 10:00PM

    I m deeply impressed with General Nasir’s achievement. Reading this article, i realized why US was so much after him. If he has done what he says, then I salute him and he is our nation’s hero.

    People of Bosina must be deeply indebted to him. For if it was not him, Bosinians would have been stateless like Kashmiris, Paletininians and Chechens. There is no mood in the world to give oppressed muslim any freedom. They are always on the wrong side of the war.

    As for the Imperial Court of Justice, let them make the noise. Pakistan should tell them in no uncertain terms that it will not hand over one of its citizens.Its one unequal world and the laws of this world only apply to the weak.

    I request to the Indian commentators here to just shut up. Their comments are out of context and they smack of hatred against Pakistan.

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  • lobe
    Sep 21, 2011 - 12:45AM

    What goes around comes around ISI has interfered in everyone’s affair so no one trusts ISI. As far as Bosnia is concerned how much money did they give you for flood relief i guess none so stop leaving in a fools paradise.

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  • Sep 21, 2011 - 12:50AM

    @Muhammad Ayaz:
    These things didn’t happen. They are merely accusations of convenience.

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  • Chaudhry Allah Daad
    Sep 21, 2011 - 1:38AM

    I have met few Bosnian Muslims, none of them know this hero.. They only know Bill Clinton, who destroyed Serb Infrastructure and brought them to knees. Once his was most popular name in Bosnia for newly borns. If our General is their hero, why Bosnians do not know him? Our heroes sell arms in black market and log them under Islamic service.

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  • vasan
    Sep 21, 2011 - 6:07AM

    Freeman : You have not answered my posts fully or properly. Pakistan has more problems in their own country to attend to than go and help muslims thousands of miles away on religious grounds. If u are a superpower, we assume you have solved your local problems and want to apply your view on others, right or wrong is another matter, Helping foreigners, whichever religion they belong to, at the cost of local population and alms from abroad is not acceptable. And that too thru non state mechanism is not proper at all. Asking me not to poke my nose is getting too personal and that too is improper in a discussion forum. Logic and reasoning is what is expected and not shunning others’ opinion.

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  • Bilal A
    Sep 21, 2011 - 6:32AM

    So when will G Bush be tried in criminal court for the ” shock and awe ” for waging a war on a country for WMD. When?

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  • MAD
    Sep 21, 2011 - 10:25AM

    Anyways the poor man has sufferred injuries in an unfortunate accident which include total memory loss so he is in no fit state to stand trial. Pakistan shall duly forward him to Hague once he recovers (if ever). So no issue just an unfortunate chain of events that may never be unravelled due to the unfortunate accident.

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  • FT
    Sep 21, 2011 - 3:18PM

    There is nothing called ethics in intl politics. please come out of your ideal world@malik:

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  • FT
    Sep 21, 2011 - 3:28PM

    What khi has to do with this topic. I know once Pak is strong internally it can play effective global role but if some right action has been done then it should have appreciated. One sided UN embargo not acceptable plus Bosnian Serbs had back up supply from Serbia Bosnian Croats had back up supply from Croatia it is but natural that Bosnian muslim had back up supply from Muslim Ummah. (Its all but natural action reaction so why so much fuss@Dinesh Chetti:

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  • ehitman
    Sep 21, 2011 - 4:57PM

    So when NATO helps Libyan rebels its humanitarian, but when we do it we become WAR CRIMINALS… FUNNY how the world works….

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  • Ayesha
    Sep 21, 2011 - 8:57PM

    Soon all ISI agents will be on wanted list!

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  • G. Din
    Sep 22, 2011 - 1:47AM

    @Qasim:
    “The UN is just a tool the west uses….”
    If so, then all Islamic nations should set an example by resigning and quitting UN en masse. They can then change OIC to United Muslim Nations. How about that? Why don’t they?
    @MAD:
    “Pakistan shall duly forward him to Hague once he recovers (if ever). “
    Pakistan does not have the facilities for his recovery. They should send him now so those Europeans can jog his memory.

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  • Mujeeb Athangal
    Sep 22, 2011 - 2:13AM

    Lt Gen Nasir
    Pakistan is proud of you
    Bosnia is proud of you

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 22, 2011 - 3:14AM

    If someone’s life is at stake, somewhere ,does it matter which source is used to save his life and who went to save his live, RAHUL OR RAHMAN, ABBAS OR ABHAS. Pakistan should send this Mujahid to the tribunal, and he should stand there head high explaining his side of the story, despite of the consequences, as to why did he help the hapless people, and that will be the real profile of a Mujahid. Muslims all over the world will be proud of him.Humanity will gloat on him.

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  • Sep 22, 2011 - 11:33AM

    @MAD: I understand that this is the result of twisting the education system and syllabus of education to support and glorify violence and jihad. Young generations fed on hate and jihad are today beyond any reason.Recommend

  • Sep 22, 2011 - 11:43AM

    This is the last thing we Pakistanis need. Getting involved in other peoples conflicts in the name of Pan-islamic ummah. How about our Muslim ‘brothers” do something for us and prove their brotherhood. We are a nation to be used by the racist middle eastern and other islamic nations like a tool.

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  • grinz09
    Sep 22, 2011 - 2:04PM

    @Aftab Kenneth Wilson:
    Very correct . Decision to declare Hamid Gul as international terrorist is pending with non other than the UN security council. Benazir Bhutto had also declared him a threat to her.

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  • Javed Shah
    Sep 22, 2011 - 3:48PM

    I was reading the comments and some are serious and some are jokes, But that war was not a joke or comment it was a practical war and by chance i was in that area in 2006. The Serbs were slaughtering the people of any kind in the former Yugoslavia now ( Bosnia, Serbia, Slovenia, Monte Negro, Albania, Kosovo and Croatia. Now here if you see there are three Muslim countries (Albania, Kosovo and Bosnia) and other are protestant Christians but they were killing all. For the Cristian countries like Slovenia and Monte Negro Nato and Italy provide them help and Muslims were helpless. My point of View as (Human) or (Muslim) in both way he did what he should do as NATO and Italian did with Cristian country like Slovenia. And i am not writing like other guys without knowing something and comment but i am Living here in London and working as Head of Department in Central Greenwich i have alot of students from those countries and i talk with them about their issues of that WAR. And they say by themself that they Help by Allah in the form of Pakistan. Today America is killing alot of Muslim and Invade the countries how many CIA chief they will hand over to international court?
    I am not only behalf of Muslim but i also have few dinners with Slovenian Family in Ptuj and they told me how they were terrified by Tanks and Guns from the Serbs. Even man told me he was sitting in the office and just got escape from the Tanks fire. I am agree we don’t have to handover him but also not to handover any citizen without any evidence or proof.
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  • Pakistani
    Sep 22, 2011 - 5:14PM

    @malik:
    Wake up! what about giving Palestiniasn and Kashmiris their due rights? UN is corrupt organization that protects criminal governments. And paksitan doesn’t need aid through agents planting bombs and killing people in our country.

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  • Pakistani
    Sep 22, 2011 - 5:17PM

    @Dinesh Chetti:
    Infact it was hindus who butchered them and blamed it on pakiatan. Unfortunately mass media was not their to tell the whole truth.

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  • Pakistani
    Sep 22, 2011 - 5:19PM

    First go get George W Bush and Tony Blair. This man defended innocent people from slaughter.

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  • Deb
    Sep 23, 2011 - 6:28AM

    Going by most of the comments on this page it appears that average Pakistani has a perverse love for people who break the laws they are suppose to obey.Whether it is domestic or international, war or sports.Starting from invaders like Md Bin Qasim,Ghazni,Nadir Shah to activist Dr Fai,the lady doctor in US prison to Qadri the assilant of Salman Taseer…the list can go on and on.And now this Major.
    No wonder a cricketer who was caught on camera while scrubbing the pitch with his boot studs (Faisalabad test against England) and then chewing the ball enjoys an iconic stasus and considered a national hero.

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  • Osama Shah
    Sep 23, 2011 - 10:50AM

    @Deb:
    I think u r going off course….. i think when u write a comment,, u should be brave enough to specify ur location…. so we can answer you accordingly….. & plz be careful while talking about our Heroes !!!!

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  • Deb
    Sep 23, 2011 - 3:32PM

    @Osman Shah

    I am from India. Happy now. So you can answer accordingly.
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  • Osama Shah
    Sep 23, 2011 - 5:49PM

    @Deb:
    It is obvious that our Heroes will be Villains to you,, U Didn’t mentioned Mahmud Ghaznavi or Shahabuddin Ghori etc…. there is big list of our heroes that u will see in a negative role. Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan is big example of it.
    So therefore it is adviced to you that you should comment based upon reality,, not upon ur prospective…… Thanks !!

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Sep 24, 2011 - 2:52AM

    @Pakistani:
    I don’t know whether you are a Muslim or not but you sure have a ruthless heart,and what do you mean by “other’s conflict?” shame on you. Hapless women, men, old, young children,starved,cold and sick, in the hand of murderers about to suck their blood to quench their thirst, waiting and looking for miracle to happen to be saved and yet you say it “other’s conflict”, what kind of Muslim are you,( if you are a Muslim),.Were not they KALMAGO Muslims,? If this would have happened anywhere in Kashmir, your king size ego would have been in peril, show some sanity and humanity man, you must remember one thing, there isn’t anything like so caled Pan Islamic Umma or others, but one thing, Muslims are beyond geographical boundaries, listen the call of help and rush to help, if you can’t at least pray. this is the one quality of Muslims ,otherwise you are merely, a PUNJABI, SINDHI ,BALOCHI, MOHAJIR and yes a “Pakistani” too, confined in a small world of prejudices.The man who anyway reached there to help them by any means is a mujahid.Muslims dont believe in and care so called barrier on the way of Muslims who’s lives are at stake at the hand of non Muslims.
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