Pakistan needs to incite those fighting in Kashmir: Musharraf
"We have source (in Kashmir) besides the (Pakistan) army...People in Kashmir are fighting against (India). We just need to incite them," Musharraf told a TV channel.
Musharraf, who assumed power in 1999 soon after the Kargil conflict as hostilities erupted between Indian and Pakistani troops in the area, claimed that the Pakistan army is ready for war with India. But He cautioned India against any misadventure.
“India should not be under the illusion that Pakistan will not hit back,” he warned.
"In Kashmir, we can fight with the (Indian) army from both the front and back...We are Muslims. We will not show the other cheek when we are slapped. We can respond tit for tat," he said, while commenting on the recent firing along the Line of Control and working boundary.
At least 12 people have been killed since India resorted to ‘unprovoked’ firing on the border. The Pakistan Army has repeatedly affirmed that they have replied “befittingly” to the heavy firing and mortar shelling. However, the government has called for the matter to be resolved through dialogue between the two nuclear-armed neighbours.
Ceasefire violations on the Line of Control (LoC) and working boundary between India and Pakistan although common have been unusual in their intensity and frequency this time.
The former army chief explained that external aggression happens only when the country remains weak internally.
"If we remain strong internally, no one can dare to target us,” he asserted.
Musharraf also lashed out at Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. However, he did not only reserve his criticism for the Hindu-nationalist leader, censuring Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif for attending Modi’s swearing-in ceremony in New Delhi in May this year.
"Modi is anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan. He has not changed. The problem is with us... We are running to attend his (Modi) inauguration, we should keep our dignity."
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This is why I always say that Pakistan is best place for monkeys to take knife in his hands as long as possible.
Musharaff is a tough and great man!! We all saw how he "lead" from the front when the judge issued the order for his arrest. He ran faster than Bolt!!!
@Naeem Khan: Nameen, please stop lamanting about Muslims in India. India was carved to make a homeland for muslims. They need to go their homeland (if they want to). You should make efforts to take them and that will stop all the problems with you and us. Why isnt Pakistan taking all the Muslims of India if you do care so much for them? And why arent they leaving if they are not happy here?
Gen. Musharraf needs to remind himself of operation Gibraltor of 1965. Since then, both countries have moved in different directions.
Kashmir has been OURS for over 5000 years. We are not going to forego it because you happen to change your religion. We will fight to the last man to keep what is ours and that includes PoK.
Iran is now at the receiving end of Pakistan's state terrorism. The region of fed up. Iran, Afghanistan and India must do something about this. Enough is enough.
@Raj - USA: " "(excepting a small section)" , are you referring to the Kashmiris whom I think want their own country instead of being persecuted by Indian security services which has killed more 100,000 and raped their women folks for the last 12 years. I would advocate that Pakistan should also vacate part of Kashmir they occupy and let the Kashmiiris have their own country and that is what they want anyway. After all Kashmir Is recognized as a disputed territory internationally and UN recognizes it the same way. By the way I think Mr. Musharraff is full of hot air and he should not be giving wild statements. However Modi does have thousand or so Muslim's blood on his hands and it was the same Modi who was banned from entering the US for a long time till he got himself elected as PM. Talk about the Indians how much respect they had for the lives of those Muslims in Gujrat, some of them were even burnt alive. No denying about that one, it is a black spot on Indians who are mostly non- violent and respect human dignity.
@Muneer: A person who is hiding from law in no position to dictate terms. Musharraf is a lost cause. Merely a attention grabbing technique. Nothing else in my mind.
This type of comments by an ex-president brings Pakistan a bad name. Pakistan is viewed as a trouble maker vs India as a problem solver.
I am Muslim from Bangladesh but I support to Musharraf he is the one who can slap to india
All the Indian trolls come out when Musharraf speaks. All the more reason for us Pakistanis to love him. His comments are meant to relay a message for Modi's misadventure in launching firing into Pakistan territory. This after he decided to cut off secretary levels talks with Pakistan just because the Pak diplomat spoke to Kashmiri leaders (as is normal for years). Not that we are surprised, this is exactly what we expected from Modi's anti-Pakistan and anti-muslim history and rhetoric. I have spoken to many Indian muslims and they hate him too. Modi will turn out to be the biggest enemy of peace in the region. As for Musharraf, his trials are politically motivated and nothing will come of them. In fact, pro-Musharraf forces are gaining strength in Pakistan, and anti-Musharraf, pro-India Nawaz Sharif will be out soon. Musharraf's comments of sources in Kashmir are not isolated, but a response to India's meddling in Pakistan internal affairs as every one knows the support for taliban and Balochistan insurgents comes from India. So tit for tat it is, as he says, but only because of India's actions. Lastly, if India is so confident of Kashmiris support of them then why are they so affraid of holding a referendum and putting this issue to bed once and for all? I know why, because they know the outcome will not be in their favor. They have seen plenty of examples of Kashmiri students chanting Pakistan Zindabad.
@DNiwasi: i don't know if you are being sarcastic or you really don't know him.just google him and see for your self. By ignoring Voices of rationality it does not disappers.
All these while India was reluctant to intervene in Balochistan. But now we should incite Baloch brothers & sisters and give befitting reply to Pakistan.
Actually the criminal want to divert attention from the cases that he is facing in Pakistan and gain sympathy.Thats all.
@BRUISED INDIAN:
I agree with you. Pakistanis will deny this statement. How can they own it? You cannot wake up somebody pretending. Mush is saying this for local consumption not realizing the damage it will do for his country in the world at large.
Well Mr. Musharraf, India may not fight from back or front but from the top. From the space.... from within (Internet)... Please understand times are gone for conventional warefare.. you lost 4 times to India in war. You don't but normal Pakistanis understand that supporting terrorism is not good for Pakistan itself. You have seen the results haven't you. To Pakistanis I would like to say one thing, please understand that just because there is majority muslim population in Kashmir Valley(not in Jammu or Ladakh) does not qualify for inclusion in Pakistan. There are many many muslims in India who love India more than their religion so please come out of this belief that Muslims will always be with Pakistan. Please also read some history, The whole place belonged to people who lived across the Indus - The Hindus. You are the occuping force - Please go back where nobody will accept you. Warm Regards
You are sick Musharraf mamu! Get well soon! All send "Get well soon" cards to him.
@truthbetold:
Former Army chief Gen V K Singh praised Pervez Musharraf recently for coming into Kargil himself and said that it showed the courage of a commander.
@common man to common man: Couldn't agree with you more. Unless Pakistanis themselves realise that atleast for now, it is unemployment, safety, food, literacy, health that is far more important than kashmir, the world will keep seeing such clowns making stupid statements. After his statement, somebody will rise in India and say something foolish. And that's how they get started. It is Pakistan that needs peace more than India right now. India is still self dependent, but pakistan's daily ration is courtesy the money it receives from IMF, US and a host of other nations. No sane person on earth would want to initiate an assignment which it knows it cannot sustain economically. Plus, the days of militancy being accepted for a cause are gone. Its counterproductive.
Looks as though Mr. Musharaff's wish of getting more Pakistanis killed has not yet been fully realised. About 4000 NLI soldiers killed in Kargill , now how many more Mr. Musharaff?
As a Pakistani: Mr. Musharraf, Mr. Nawaz Sharif, Kiddo Bilawal Zardari: We want peace not war and the government to resolve issues like poverty, education, and security which actually matter to us. Talk about things that really matter.
Musharraf, or anyone from the army thinktank, is not particularly known for his intelligence. The ill-concieved Kargil adventure is an example. The Indian establishment has brilliant minds like NSA Ajit Doval who are redefining India's security strategy. Rest assured every "asset" that Musharraf has spoken about has been factored in in India's strategy. We are aware of the Pakistan-Chinese nexus, which is actually what Musharraf meant when he said we can hurt India from two sides. The Indian response is to make it practically nonviable for China to engage India beyond a point, especially when Japan and the US come into the picture. India will be prepared to pay this cost, China will hurt as well. As for the action in Pakistan, it'll be a combination of swift, short strikes, pressure from Iranian (west) and Afghanistan (north) fronts and a sustained 4th generation war (internal crisis) in troubled areas such as Balochistan, areas of Sindh and Northern areas. Essentially, the conflict will be quick and result in reconfigured territories in Kashmir, and Pakistan will end up losing Balochistan. As far as the nuclear option goes, there is zero possibility of it simply because India holds the same threat for China. If nuclear bomb was an option, North Korea would be threatening to nuke China. Practical realities are different.
Musharraf, or anyone from the army thinktank, is not particularly known for his intelligence. The Indian establishment has brilliant minds like NSA Ajit Doval who are redefining India's security strategy. Rest assured every "asset" that Musharraf has spoken about has been factored in in India's strategy. We are aware of the Pakistan-Chinese nexus, which is actually what Musharraf meant when he said we can hurt India from two sides. The Indian response is to make it practically nonviable for China to engage India beyond a point, especially when Japan and the US come into the picture. India will be prepared to pay this cost, China will hurt as well. As for the action in Pakistan, it'll be a combination of swift, short strikes, pressure from Iranian (west) and Afghanistan (north) fronts and a sustained 4th generation war (internal crisis) in troubled areas such as Balochistan, areas of Sindh and Northern areas. Essentially, the conflict will be quick and result in reconfigured territories in Kashmir, and Pakistan will end up losing Balochistan. As far as the nuclear option goes, there is zero possibility of it simply because India holds the same threat for China. If nuclear bomb was an option, North Korea would be threatening to nuke China. Practical realities are different.
@vasan:
"whisky sipping cigar smoking"
You forgot gold playing, land grabbing.
@SA:
The great Pakistan Army whose 45000+ soldiers and about equal no. of civilians surrendered to 3000 "docile" Indians? The nation which does not learn from history, tends to repeat the same mistake and is doomed.
Why are you not concerned about Polio and the small innocent kids getting effected with it.
http://www.polioeradication.org/dataandmonitoring/poliothisweek.aspx
@Rashid: Several Indians have attached the clip where he said it. Don't you have any shame?here you go one more time. Please listen between 6:30 and 7:30. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wz0SvUrtmiE
This person is coward. He has no right to speak on behalf of India Muslims. They are better off in India. Why was he hiding in UK for years just to avoid prosecution. He has even no following in Pakistan itself.
@DNiwasi: Kashmir is a disputed territory. Musharraf's remarks are in response to Modi's actions on LOC/ working boundary and his statements.I am sure this one interview will remind Modi not to play with fire and let people in both countries live in peace.
Musharraf is the person who is to be blamed for causing the biggest blow to kashmir cause . Now he is taking a complete 180 degree shift in his stance
@Zog:
Could you please worry about the Baluchs please? We'll take care of our brothers and sisters in Kashmir.
lolz @ indian media
@DNiwasi: Very well said. The old man seems to have turned senile anyway and is hankering for attention.
@SA, so explain why Pakistan had lost every time they fought India? Have you forgotten 93,000 brave Muslim soldiers surrendered to India during 71 war? Too much Madrassa education is not good for health!
This is really beyond sick, Please Musharraf sahib let us Indian Muslims live in Peace,, you have no right to say any bad thing indirectly in Media. You got your Nation & let us live in ours.
@Shahid: He did not make any comment on inciting kashmiris , the media is again putting words in his mouths
Rather inciting Kasmiris, please take care of your own citizens....Christains, Sikhs, Hindus Shiites, Zoroastrians, Budhists, Bahais, Jews Ahmedis, Pakhtunis, Bahawalpuris & Balochis should be priority of Pakistan, because they are suffering. If not, read your Human Rights commission report.
http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2013/country-chapters/pakistan
Pakistan would be ill-advised to create more trouble in Kashmir or LoC as it will invite massive retaliation from India. Musharraf is well aware of India's response on his Kargil misadventure as well as the attack on Parliament which almost came close to an all out war between the two countries. Modi has already warned Pakistan that India will show zero tolerance to terrorism from across the border which is evident from the strong response recently by India. However, continuing the same old policy or any fresh adventurism as advocated by the former dictator may prove disastrous for Pakistan as Modi will not miss this golden opportunity to solve the six decades old problem by might of the Indian army.
Is this a ploy to get out of jail or escape the death sentence for treason?
Musharraf who? The Kargil misadventurer? The tinpot dictator, who changed his entire Afghanistan policy under a single threat from US? The ex-president, who had to abrogate under threat of impeachment? Or just a concerned Pakistan citizen, whom the only thing that is keeping in Pakistan is a little slip of paper called the ECL?
PM should be in Kargil ASAP. The ghosts of NLI want to pay tributes and honor him.
@Shahid: @Pak Patriot: @Rawalpindi Kid:
Please google 'tonight with Jasmeen Musharraf ' and listen between 6:30 and 7:30 . Not only does he specifically suggest we can incite Kashmiris, he also says lakhs of Pakistanis would willingly go and fight side by side with their Kashmiri brothers- proving that he was using jihadis even at the time he claimed to be discussing out of box solutions with India
@Rawalpindi Kid: he has clearly mentioned about inciting.I have a copy of that clipping.Now though India knew this before, he is coming out of closet. He is under trial for treason.he need this gimmick to garner hate filled pakistani support. carry on..,will see to what extend you play!
This is fake news for Pakistan audience. To know the really what happened read bbc or other newspapers. Then you will know the truth. Pak suffered severe blow and not capable of anything. This is what outside world sees.
Immediately send this paper tiger to the border with India and ask him to infiltrate into India and join his comrades already in the "back" of India to fight the Indian army. If he could send 3000 NLI soldiers to their certain death in Kargil in 1999, shouldn't this brave commando go across the border himself and fight the Indians instead of blowing hot air on TV?
Pak patriot, Pl watch the clip again. He did say incite them
If this is the kind of people who openly want to incite neighbouring country citizens, who lead and led Pakistan, God save Pakistan, Oops, even God cannot save Pakistan. Cant he remember Kargil and the inciting by Pakistans in 1980s. If the Kashmiri muslims are stupid enough to listen to this kind of advices by senseless people, it is they who lose their life and property. These whisky sipping cigar smoking "leaders" against whom even treason cases are pending live in their comfort zones and run to the US daddy when things burn under their seats. TRULY PATHETIC. ET : There is nothing in this comment against muslims or pakistan, Pl publish.
This joker is beyond funny.
All I can say is he is an Idiot. We are humans first. And another thing no one believes in showing another cheek. This guy had put Pakistan in Danger when he ruled the country. Nawaz Sharif is inheriting this guys crap.
Musshraf days are over now no one cares what he says
When in Power Musharaf concluded in an Interview that Pak will never take Kashmir from India and its better to concentrate on other issues. Now out of power and want to back to it, he is inciting Pakistanis on the name of Kashmir. :-)
If Musharraf has nothing more to offer us kashniris i suggest he shut up
@Pak Patriot: Y r u deaf? videos are available on youtube ..not only he talks about inciting ..he says there are lakhs ready to go into kashmir ..obvious reference to Terrorists so many time.. like in front our army will fight and our people in Kashmir also will fight against them..well cant keep lies for too long ..now ur denials will start
In Kashmir, we can fight with the (Indian) army from both the front and back…We are Muslims.Great General is very right Ir Pakistan can creat a Great Trouble for Hindoustan
Musharraf we have not forgotten your handshake at Agra. You are a hypocrite!
Mr Musharraf..The same theory is the reason for state of affairs in Pakistan. What goes around comes around.
No fool like an old fool. Whether it is Musharraf or Imran Khan or Qadri or Altaf.
He has no credibility Remember Kargil?
Can we please prioritise the Kashmiris well being.
They have suffered enough.
We need a lasting/peaceful solution (but seems impossible with Adolf Modi at the helm of India now)
Salutations to Musharraf, the Indian tea=boy is pretending tough guy role, in realty Hindu nation is not a warrior nation and will never be able to win against us. We are almost 200 million Pakistani Muslims and we may have our internal differences but when it comes to Kashmir we are all one and each any every one of us able bodied Pakistani will fight along with our forces and our Kashmiri brothers to liberate Kashmir....With no further delay Pakistan should openly support our Kashmiri mujhideen militarily as well as financially....Two superpowers of the day have come to their great disappointment when they bitterly realized that when a push comes to shove Pakistan can well hold its own..PAKISTAN ZINDABAD & PAKISTAN PIANDABAD.
I see there are still some nose bleed left.....I guess kargil failure is still haunting this old man, who is living his last chapter of his life filled with regrets. I only have sympathy for this man.
@Shahid: Kuldip Nayaar who? We hardly hear from him in India.
@Pak Patriot, dude go and watch to the interview before you say something.
Idiot.
Immediately send this paper tiger to the border with India and ask him to infiltrate into India and join his comrades already in the "back" of India to fight the Indian army. If he could send 3000 NLI soldiers to their certain death in Kargil in 1999, shouldn't this brave commando go across the border himself and fight the Indians instead of blowing hot air on TV?
this is one common man speaking to another common man across the border... Guys, please beware of this guy. his misadventure in Kargil resulted into loss of many lives on both the side. We may call those dead soldiers warrior, martyr and whatmany names, but the truth is that they are gone, there family will never get to see them ever again, there wishes died away with them. And for what? what was the outcome? we all might take some feathers home thinking that we fought valiantly..But just get out of your jingoism and think what did Pakistan achieve out of it? was all those loss of lives worth it? the generals and politicians they have been trained and thrive on making inflammatory speeches, it is the only way they justify their existence, but to see through those facade and maintain your rationality is your job. look around and you will see the real problem, corruption, illiteracy, unemployment, sinking economy and instead of inciting masses to tackle these issues, he wants to incite Kashmiris so that this circle of violence continues. everything i wrote here is equally applicable to my country as well. I am an informed and a rational person, I will not fall for such harangue if my leaders were to spew it out in front of me.
The Indian channel is misreporting his comments and sensationalizing for the Indian audience. Yes, he did warn the Indians against the current bombing they are conducting and killing Pakistani civilians and stated categorically that Pak Army is fully capable of responding, and he did state we should support our Kashmiri brothers, but he did not say anything about inciting them.
Wish you back in power.
I admire President Musharraf as a great leader but I don't agree with his advice.We shuold keep supporting the kashmir cause which remains the disputed territory and support thier cause but not icite them.I actually think that President Musharraf may have been misrepoerted.I think Kuldip's Nayarr's recent propsal to give both side of Kashmir full autonomy. With only two issues defence and forign policies with New Delhi and Islamabad is a good proposal if it also includes the right of Kashmiris to move freely within Kashmir without hindrance.
I watched that TV interview and Musharraf made no such comments as to inciting Kashmiris. He is a bold leader, unlike Nawaz Sharif and believes in dealing with the Indian government on equal level. His comments in the interview were right on.