PAF's JF-17 Thunder aircraft to feature at Dubai Air Show

Published: November 17, 2013
JF-17 Thunder aircraft. PHOTO:MEDIA AFFAIRS PAF

JF-17 Thunder aircraft. PHOTO:MEDIA AFFAIRS PAF

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is participating in the Dubai Air Show 2013, which will be inaugurated today.

The show will be held at Dubai World Central Airport instead of Dubai International Airport this year. The new location is at a distance of 30km from Dubai city.

JF-17 Thunder and Super Mushshak aircraft of PAF along with the PAF contingent comprising PAF pilots and technicians are participating in the show. The participating pilots have successfully completed the rehearsal of aerobatics.

The JF-17 Thunder jointly co-developed by PAF & China Aero-technology Import Export Corporation (CATIC), and co-produced by Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and CATIC has been put up for static as well as aerial display in the Air Show.

More than 200 companies from all over the world are displaying their aviation products and aircraft.

The JF-17 Thunder will fly along with 150 aircraft which are on display at the air show.

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  • Muslim Leaguer
    Nov 17, 2013 - 1:44PM

    The initiative of developing JF-17 (Joint Fighter-17) as a light-weight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft was taken during the tenure of Nawaz Sharif in 1997.
    It is good to see that JF-17 competes globally and Pakistan becomes exporter of combat aircrafts to the world during the tenure of Nawaz Sharif in 2013.
    Long Live Pakistan!


  • Khurram Awan
    Nov 17, 2013 - 2:01PM

    I hope in the near future more parts for JF-17 would be made in Pakistan. At present almost 80 percent of the parts of JF-17 thunder are foreign made and the Aircraft uses RD-93 Russian designed engine that was rejected by Russians citing smoke trails and vulnerability to Infrared and thermal imaging weapons. If you see any video of JF-17 thunder then you can actually notice the huge smoke trails from the engine which any Infrared missile can pick up easily. PAF officials who approved this engine for JF-17 are not the sincere of Pakistan in my view.

    It is a sheer shame that in the PAF’s history we have not been able to develop a single Jet engine or fully locally developed radar or even a single military helicopter and it speak volumes for our inefficiency, short sightedness and our dependence on the West and the Chinese and our Appetite for Commission / Bribery on foreign purchases.


  • XMan
    Nov 17, 2013 - 2:13PM

    Go Pakistan!! Make us proud..bring us production orders!


  • mbd4u
    Nov 17, 2013 - 3:03PM

    who cares


  • LaLakiMKaa
    Nov 17, 2013 - 3:43PM

    take care of chinese toys……they are not that much reliable………


  • M. Emad
    Nov 17, 2013 - 3:59PM

    Pakistan ‘Thunder’ Air Force was grounded in the 2nd day of 1971 war in East Pakistan (Bangladesh). With his Army General colleagues, the East Pakistan ‘Thunder’ Air Force Chief (Air Commodore) surrendered to Bangladesh Mukti Bakini and Indian forces on 16 December 1971 in Dhaka.

    In West Pakistan, the performance of Pakistan ‘Thunder’ Air Force were even more pathetic. From day one the Indian Air Force controlled the West Pakistan sky — destroyed Karachi Naval port area.

    Copying technology from other and fighting a war with wrong ideology are different things.


  • It Is (still) Economy Stupid
    Nov 17, 2013 - 4:09PM

    Boeing and airbus received orders worth billions from Muslim countries whereas JF17 received billions of praises from Pakistanis Muslims.


  • Last Word
    Nov 17, 2013 - 4:32PM

    JF-17 Thunder is an obsolete but cheap aircraft and Indian Air-force is mighty happy that Pakistan procured them in large numbers as it is no match against India’s Mirage-2000, MIG-29, SU-30 MK1 and the latest Rafale. Somalian pirates who have a lot of money, may opt to purchase one or two from Pakistan.


  • B
    Nov 17, 2013 - 4:40PM

    I hope that are successful. It will (hopefully} help them turn their brains from hatred and terrorism to education and technology.Recommend

  • Fatima Atif
    Nov 17, 2013 - 5:21PM

    OH!!!!! Thats great! Please take care of Chinese also and also make us proud......... Indians are happy? please dont make them happy continue your making aircrafts and make those aircrafts which are not only reliable but also more powerful than Indians aircrafts.


  • Farhad
    Nov 17, 2013 - 5:25PM

    For all the jealous Indians: Not a single Indian-made aircraft has every participated in an international air show outside India primarily because of quality issues. This is the 5th appearance of Pakistan-made aircraft in an international airshow.


  • Javed
    Nov 17, 2013 - 5:52PM

    @It Is (still) Economy Stupid:
    And what did Indian aircraft receive? uups i forgot, you dont have any functional aircraft.. what a shame, blacky!


  • islooboy
    Nov 17, 2013 - 5:56PM

    @M. Emad: this looks familiar you forgot about mm alam 1971 was different because it was rebelion comboRecommend

  • mbd4u
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:02PM

    ‘PAF’s JF-17 Thunder aircraft to feature
    at Dubai Air Show’ : so


  • islooboy
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:04PM
  • TightPatloon
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:04PM

    I can sense something burning, oh its the Indians and their Amriken friends. Not the JF-17 engines…


  • Netizen
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:14PM

    JF-17 thunder fighter aircraft is up for grabs, with a price tag of 20 million USD. Much better than Indian Tejas, which wee a complete failure

    Role: Multi-role combat aircraft.
    Manufacturer: Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.
    First flight: 25 August 2003.
    Introduced: 12 March 2007.
    Status: Under serial production and in active service.
    Primary user: Pakistan Air Force.
    Produced: In Pakistan: January 2008.
    Unit cost: US$20 million (estimated).


  • Stealth
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:16PM

    What did Indian Air Force (IAF) achieve in twenty six years while consuming over $2 billion? the answer to that is Zilch; Zero; Nada; Nothing – except a failed project and a continued embarrassment in the shape ‘Tejas’. Tejas LCA (Light Combat Aircraft, also known as Last Chance Aircraft) has gone many trials and tests and there’s no sign of induction as yet. It has now been announced to enter IAF in 2010.

    Pakistan’s own ambitious JF-17 project was launched in partnership with China in 1995. In just eleven years and with just $500 million spent, the JF-17 was flying in Pakistani Airspace on March 23rd 2007 – with the maiden flight having taken place much earlier in 2003.


  • Stealth
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:17PM

    Apart from smaller Air Forces, Egyptian and Iranian Air forces have confirmed interest in purchasing these aircraft from Pakistan.
    The JF-17 Thunder project has been completed in a record period of four years. China National Aviation Corp officially signed the development contract for the FC-1 airplane in 1999. The project initially suffered a setback due to imposition of sanctions in 1999, which hindered acquisition of avionics and weaponry for the aircraft. The avionics had to be delinked from airframe development in 2001. China National Aviation Corp completes the detailed preliminary design in 2001 and in 2002 the company completed the detailed design structure and the system charts.Recommend

  • Stealth
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:25PM

    India is also producing Dhruv, state-of-the-art(tificial) helicopters which keep on crashing in its maiden flights. Waiting for more export orders though.


  • stevenson
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:26PM

    @M. Emad: A quick look at historical facts will tell you the real picture. Yes Pakistan fought a nasty civil war in 1971 with one hand tied behind its back and India was only too eager to take advantage of the internal discord. This does not take away from the stellar performance of the Pakistan Air Force which outperformed its larger Indian adversary. Read Western reports about how Pakistani pilots, often flying inferior aircraft beat the Indian pilots on a regular basis. You forget that the only pilots to distinguish themsleves in the Arb Israeli conflicts have been Pak pilots on deputation with Arab Air Forces. The JF 17 is a remarkable feat for a developing country and gives the air force a cheaper alternative to boost numbers against a much larger enemy. As shown in the past, it’s the pilot, not the machine that makes the biggest difference and in this regard the Pakistan air force remains supremely confident based on past experiences and history.


  • Justin time
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:30PM

    The Indian food minister has come up with a novel Idea to stop food wastage and to help the starving millions. Can be implemented with government help.


  • Pops
    Nov 17, 2013 - 6:31PM


    I just raed the lies and distorted history on the above link to the pak gov website.


  • glen
    Nov 17, 2013 - 7:05PM

    we are developing one by our own, and first one from takes a lot of time whatever it is. JF 17 is a low qualilty downraded version of J10 for poor countries.
    This is chinese plane. not a tech of pakistan.
    correction. not paki made but pakistan assembled. its like Su30 mki from India.Recommend

  • lols
    Nov 17, 2013 - 7:56PM

    check what happened to junk fighter blunder 17 after previous dubai airshow. til now no one ordered. and stopped production after induction of 50 planes because of low quality.
    again, this is chinese plane, assembled in pakistan.


  • lols
    Nov 17, 2013 - 8:05PM


    The JF 17 is a remarkable feat for a
    developing country and gives the air
    force a cheaper alternative to boost
    numbers against a much larger enemy.
    As shown in the past, it’s the pilot,
    not the machine that makes the biggest
    difference and in this regard the
    Pakistan air force remains supremely
    confident based on past experiences
    and history.

    good joke.


  • Stealth
    Nov 17, 2013 - 9:06PM

    Indian missile and aircraft technology is superior to Pakistan…India. They keep on falling on the ground is another matter. We all need to develop Indian missile technology to make it at par with Pakistan and for that we need to increase our defense budget-Indian air chief

  • SachinlilBahstahd
    Nov 17, 2013 - 9:09PM

    @ all indians. Lol @ TEJAS. All your equipment is russian.


  • Crusader
    Nov 17, 2013 - 9:13PM

    India behind China, Pakistan in missiles race; Agni unreliable: Report. According to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, the 700-km range Agni-I and 2000 km range Agni-II missiles are unreliable.


  • SaleIndianmadarchood
    Nov 17, 2013 - 9:14PM

    What india has sent in the show ?? The trollers can’t stand chinese and pakistani success


  • Indian baby
    Nov 17, 2013 - 9:17PM

    Indian technology is as good as their english accent


  • osmanorin
    Nov 17, 2013 - 9:28PM

    O.k for first time!! Try harder, Rome was not built in a day. Keep trying, something good will happen in future .


  • Alann
    Nov 17, 2013 - 9:49PM

    @TightPatloon: “I can sense something burning, oh its the Indians and their Amriken friends. Not the JF-17 engines…”

    For the Junk Fighter’s engines to burn, Pakistan needs to have oil! Unfortunately Iran is not willing to pay for Pakistan’s oil. I think you should ask China to provide some oil to burn the engines of those China-rejected JF-17s.Recommend

    Nov 17, 2013 - 10:39PM

    Chinese crap


  • Zeeshan
    Nov 17, 2013 - 10:43PM

    India’s LCA = Late Combat Aircraft


  • Zeeshan
    Nov 17, 2013 - 10:44PM

    You fool, PAF has 250 JF-17s on order.


  • Faisal
    Nov 17, 2013 - 10:53PM

    List of International Air Shows in which Indian LCA has participated in:


    List of International Air Shows in which Pakistani JF-17 has participated in:

    Farnborough International Air Show 2010 (Farnborough, UK)
    China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition 2010 (Zhuhai, China)
    Air Show Turkiye 2011 (Izmir, Turkey)
    Dubai Air Show 2011 (Dubai, UAE)
    Dubai Air Show 2013 (Dubai, UAE)



  • Sandip
    Nov 17, 2013 - 11:39PM

    @Farhad: You are right. Ever heard of the old english saying – Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.


  • Gupta
    Nov 18, 2013 - 12:01AM

    @Indian punaanie:
    Your question should be addressed to you Master KSA.


  • China talks
    Nov 18, 2013 - 12:06AM

    Are you a footstool of China?


  • nyc
    Nov 18, 2013 - 1:36AM

    Take cover guys! Here come the bashing Indians !! They’ll bash anything Pakistani in sight! Brace yourselves immediately!


  • Nov 18, 2013 - 2:12AM

    What is with the hate-filled Indian commentators and readers swarming over the ET comments section! Sometimes, I check out the boring Indian news websites, and rarely if ever are there any Pakistanis on there. Not that I would support censoring Indian comments, but ET really should be more intelligent about moderating what’s said.


  • It Is (still) Economy Stupid
    Nov 18, 2013 - 2:31AM

    ET Moderator: Very disappointed with your breach of social norm as you have allowed a explicit Sale—-. I am formally protesting it.


  • Usman
    Nov 18, 2013 - 3:25AM

    @Khurram Awan: Take your misguided comments else where. JF-17 is 90% made in Pakistan, deal with it.


  • truthbetold
    Nov 18, 2013 - 4:06AM

    @Muslim Leaguer:

    The JF-17 is a cheap copy of the American F-16 by the Chinese. Pakistan’s contribution in this was to allow the Chinese to get access to the Pakistani F-16’s so that the design can be stolen and copied.

    However, Chinese have moved beyond the JF-17. They have chosen to go for the JF-10 instead for the Chinese air-force. Hardly any JF-17 have been inducted into Chinese air force.


  • lols
    Nov 18, 2013 - 5:40AM

    250 were in order, but stopped at 50.


  • Haroon
    Nov 18, 2013 - 8:34AM

    Are Pakistani Army, Navy or Air Force in any danger of using their defences against the US? It is lack of Imaan or lack of bravery or a mix between the two?


  • Zeeshan
    Nov 18, 2013 - 11:27AM

    Source for your claim? 50 have been DELIVERED so far.Recommend

  • Zeeshan
    Nov 18, 2013 - 11:31AM

    PAF has taken delivery of 50 JF-17s till date and another 200 are still on order. Total 250 JF-17s to be inducted into PAF. Here is the PAF Air Chief’s statement published in August 2013:


  • Gurion
    Nov 18, 2013 - 12:42PM


    This is the 5th appearance of
    Pakistan-made aircraft in an
    international airshow

    Impressive. But the question is, if it can make a successful “appearance” in its 1st war.


  • Adnan Haseeb
    Nov 18, 2013 - 3:26PM

    Why Our Indian and American friends are so flared up ??? if this plane a junk than you should be happy but instead your are angry, seems like something pinching you big time…..


  • rasgullah
    Nov 18, 2013 - 4:15PM

    If Pakistan is going to bring JF17 blunder to the air show, what is China going to bring?Recommend

  • Farhad
    Nov 18, 2013 - 5:24PM

    Insha’Állah it will. Recommend

  • Bhai log
    Nov 18, 2013 - 5:28PM

    Can it fly on CNG as petrol prices in Pakistan are very high.Recommend

  • Bhai log
    Nov 18, 2013 - 5:33PM

    JF-17 is no match to India’s HAL Tejas.Recommend

  • polpot
    Nov 18, 2013 - 6:08PM

    @Khurram Awan: ” It is a sheer shame that in the PAF’s history we have not been able to develop a single Jet engine”
    The real shame is that not even rail engines have been developed in Pakistan!


  • polpot
    Nov 18, 2013 - 6:18PM

    Will Pakistan also dermo at the show their technology to down the US Drones?:)
    Whats the point in having JF17s when the drones make daily mockery of your airspace?


  • James
    Nov 18, 2013 - 7:05PM

    Pure Pakistani Army propaganda in the link you mentioned.I also read the 1965 and 1971 wars.Reads like a history of lies.Read some of the neutral sources about India – Pakistan wars.Maybe it will open your eyes.Funny that the Kargil war is not mentioned.But as per Pakistani propganda,your army was not involved.Its only now that Pakistan has admitted that the Northern Light Infantry was involved in Kargil.


  • Indian Wisdom
    Nov 18, 2013 - 7:15PM

    @It Is (still) Economy Stupid:
    “ET Moderator: Very disappointed with your breach of social norm as you have allowed a explicit Sale—-. I am formally protesting it.”
    Agreed completely.
    For a moment I was shocked to see it and can’t believe my eyes………………….
    I hope ET doesn’t turn to TOI , that will be a sad day.
    @ ET Moderator: Request you to not publish explicit. ET can do better and you must realise the kind of respect ET commands. Its simply not up to your standards…

    @ Brothers and sisters from Pakistan: Yes, indeed its an achievement, even if more than 60 or 80 % of it is Chinese. You were a part of such sophisticated project is an achievement. We must not deny credit where its due………..


  • kapt slim
    Nov 18, 2013 - 8:07PM

    Hope we get good orders for other countries … We need to sell this aircraft to raise money


  • ABK
    Nov 18, 2013 - 10:43PM

    Well done PAF, its indeed an honor to represent your country at such occasions, the indigenous production of the aircraft is a step in right direction… I have seen numerous comments which question the capabilities of this aircraft. Whatever its capabilities are they would definitely be better than aging, Mirages, A5 and F7Ps.
    The list of the participant Fighter air crafts is:-
    1. Euro-fighter Typhoon.
    2. Rafale.
    3. Aermacchi M346.
    4. JF-17 Thunder. <<<< Nice to see this name>>>>>>>>
    5. F-16.
    6. Mirage 2000-9.
    7. Mikoyan MIG-29.
    No Tejas ???
    Is there any representation from India in Dubai Air show 2013?


  • Last Word
    Nov 18, 2013 - 10:47PM

    “More than 200 companies from all over the world are displaying their aviation products and aircraft”

    Why is not a great news in other countries which are displaying their products. Pakistan should focus on controlling sectarian violence in Rawalpindi with normal bamboo stick, tear gas and kalshanikov guns first before it goes for some stupid air show


  • George
    Nov 18, 2013 - 10:57PM

    JF-17 is a fantastic aircraft, recently has been armed with hypersonic anti-ship CM-400AKG missile which is a very high-speed missile that is very tough to intercept. It hits the target at Mach 4 or above and its kinetic impact alone is enough to destroy any high-value target, like an aircraft carrier.
    The missile has an estimated range of 180-250 Km. It is a fire and forget 400 kg solid-rocket-powered weapon that can be fitted with different seekers and warheads. The missile’s impact velocity is greater than Mach 5.


  • Proletarian
    Nov 18, 2013 - 11:29PM

    The Chinese are so kind, they let us put the “made in Pakistan” label on their jets.Recommend

  • Crusader
    Nov 18, 2013 - 11:58PM

    The JF-17 Thunder – a joint project between Pakistan and China – was riginally designed to be a small and capable lightweight fighter powered by a single engine to reduce costs – the JF-17 was supposed to be a simple and inexpensive solution for replacing large fleets of obsolete types in the air forces of developing countries. The JF-17 evolved into a more advanced fighter during the later stages of development with revised terms of reference by the Pakistan Air Force and the incorporation of more modern features and technologies.


  • Crusader
    Nov 19, 2013 - 12:01AM

    India defence industry is a laughable stock in its ability to deliver. The long-anticipated (over forty years to be exact) Arjun tank turned out to be a complete failure, its designers somehow overlooking the elementary fact that it was too wide to be transported by train and therefore useless. In addition, in recent exercises it suffered from numerous malfunctions that lead the Indian army to wash their hands of it and order over a thousand Russian T-90 tanks off the shelf from Russia instead. The Indian Government, always keen to save face, forced the army to buy a few token Arjun tanks (christened ar-junk by critics). The Arjun fiasco is perhaps the most famous example of fantastically expensive Indian defence catastrophes, but by no means is this an isolated occurence. Almost every piece of equipment conceived by the mad scientists of the infamous and ironically named DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation) has failed. In fact, the DRDO has produced more flops than Sunny Deol, and that’s saying something.


  • Stealth
    Nov 19, 2013 - 12:02AM

    The Indians may have superior jets like the Russian Su-30 MKI, but Pakistan is catching up fast. The acquisition of the F-16 Block 50 from the US and the Chinese FC-20 will transform Pakistan Air force into a technological force to be reckoned with. This will be greatly helped by the induction of over 250 JF-17 multi-role jets co-produced with the Chinese. These will form the backbone of the air force for decades to come, replacing existing older aircraft.


  • polpot
    Nov 19, 2013 - 1:42AM

    @Proletarian: The Chinese are so kind, they let us put the “made in Pakistan” label on their jets.
    ditto for satellites.


  • Maria
    Nov 19, 2013 - 3:44AM

    The fact that so many Indians are here belittling the JF 17 and obsessing about the PAF shows not only an obsession but deep seated insecurity. It shows that the JF 17 really bothers them!


  • Ajay Kumar
    Nov 19, 2013 - 4:27AM

    I think Pakistanis are smart people, they are investing in the right direction but our corrupt politician prefer buying expensive aircrafts and military hardware from greedy French and Russians and now the greedy Americans are our friends to exploit our market and sell us weapons, we should realize that Americans are war mongers and only want to sell their weapons by creating conflicts, they will use us and throw us in dustbin, instead of destabilizing Pakistan we should have better ties with China and Pakistan, we are going to make the same mistake which Pakistanis made i.e looking towards USA instead of regional powers.Recommend

  • fareed
    Nov 19, 2013 - 6:15AM

    Just another copy and cut!


  • Nov 19, 2013 - 7:14AM

    Pakistan has no money and the Chinese know too well chances of recovering anything from Pakistan is pretty remote. So they give away to Pakistan stuff nobody else would want to buy. It’s what we call in India “junk removal”. Whenever the Chinese have any junk they need to get rid of, they will place a call to GHQ in Pindi. Pakistan will give it a new coat of paint, name it the worst Muslim marauder from Afghanistan or the Central Asian steppes who happened to invade India and display it at some show in Dubai. Americans will sell 150 billions $s worth of Boeing aircraft’s at the venue. Pakistan will get 750,000 praises from fellow Pakistanis in UAE. End of story.


  • Alien1
    Nov 19, 2013 - 7:58AM

    PAF JF-17 Blunder, how many gaint rubber bands does this thing need to make it fly?


  • Ho Chian
    Nov 19, 2013 - 4:24PM

    Indians’ “short and curly’s” seem to be on fire.


  • Rehman
    Nov 19, 2013 - 5:15PM

    JF-17 and Super Mushak in the flying display line-up with the big boys:

    I don’t see any Indian aircraft in that list.


  • Mehmood Ali
    Nov 19, 2013 - 5:21PM

    @Jag Nathan:
    If the plane is a junk than why you Indians are so disturbed ?? Why cant you people concentrate on your own problems like poverty and hunger, Rat eaters are dreaming to become a new super power…. what a joke.


  • Nov 19, 2013 - 7:10PM

    @Mehmood Ali: who told you we are disturbed? We are elated. 150 Billion $ s in orders for hated USA (a nice aprt fo which would be code written by Indians here in Bangalore) and 750,000 smiley faces for Pakistan.


  • Ahmed Afridi
    Nov 19, 2013 - 11:16PM

    Indians are quite nervous about this air craft, it is quite evident in different blogs, Face book and comments and attack on PAC Kamra to destroy assembly line of JF 17 , there is definitely some thing which is bothering them.


  • Intikhab
    Nov 19, 2013 - 11:16PM

    In whole world before Folkland war in 1980s, no one knew the strength & capabilities of Exositic missile of France. When it was successfully deployed against British Naval ship, whole of world started thinking of purchasing and making a stock of this particular missile in their inventory. JF-17 will prove itself one day against enemy and big adversary. That day, Insha-Allah whole of Arab and Muslim world will start running for this fighter plane. Fastest (above 2 mac), heavy with big sizes usually do not helpful in war and specially in dog fights. Mostly fire and forgets usually goes without kill. Fighters has to come face to face for a fight even if they have superior machines and weapons loaded on. Mirage 2000 is the right adversary of JF-17. Su27, Mig 29 etc will be like white elephant for the enemy. till then best of luck for JF-17.


  • rafi
    Nov 21, 2013 - 10:49PM

    It is easy to criticize and it is habit of people to degrade Pakistan.We are proud what we have achieved.


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