The latest enforcement of a dress code which resulted in girls getting fined for not dressing up ‘modestly’ stirred a storm at one of the top-ranking institutes of the country.
News of girls being fined at the National University of Sciences and Technology (Nust) for not wearing dupattas sparked a controversy and debate between liberal and conservative elements on social and print media. The rector for his part justified the move as a ‘security measure’.
The university, stretched over the whole H-12 sector in the capital, has an infrastructure developed to international standards and like any other security concerned varsity, entering cars are thoroughly checked at the main gate beyond which, tall brick buildings and broad roads with speed signs gives it all the necessary looks of a modern campus but students — recently speaking of the conservative rules and old fashioned trends the institute is trying to instil in them— unveils what is going on at the heart of the institute.
Admissions on merit — evident by the fact that only 2000 applicants were enrolled out of the total 64,000 this year— means the institute produces top quality graduates in the country, but the recent issues raised by students studying there puts a question mark on the varsity’s grooming of students beyond books and lectures.
Speaking to The Express Tribune, a student of engineering requesting anonymity said her dream of studying there has turned into a nightmare, from which she will only awake after graduation — a moment she impatiently awaits. Regarding the ongoing controversy over social media, the student with an A’ levels background said whatever her peers are saying is true “Let’s face it; there is no smoke without fire. The conservative environment has led to a drastic change in the way I dress and I to it only to be accepted at the college,” she said while adding that she never wears a dupatta otherwise which is mandatory at Nust.
Male and female students are asked to maintain a safe distance at the campus and out of the three cafeterias, one is out of bounds for girls after 5:00pm. The hostels are also shut down at 7:30pm instead of the routine 9:00pm and students have to spend the night outside if they fail to reach the hostel by that time.
According to another student, judging the character of a girl by her dress is unfair. “At Nust, forget that you will live a liberal life. For the management here, if I wear jeans I’m a bad girl and if I’m in shalwar kameez I’m considered good.” The administration’s mindset represents that of our society at large she said, adding that her family makes fun of her by asking her to wear a burqa at college to score better.
As the slips of students fined for wearing jeans went viral on social media the jokes about the university started a deep-rooted debate about the military-administered university.
While the conservatives praised the varsity, terming it one of its kind by highlighting its academic side, others spoke about the suffocation felt by students who deal with the stress on a daily basis.
A students meeting was called in by the university’s rector, Engineer Muhammad Asghar on Thursday evening as the issue gained momentum.
Speaking to the gathering of 500 girls, including students charged for wearing inappropriate clothing, Asghar reassured his support for the students and said he wanted to interact with the students to clear misunderstandings. He informed the meeting that the harsh steps were taken to ensure the security of the students and mentioned the presence of terrorists at the universities of Punjab and Sindh hostels adding that a malicious campaign to tarnish the university’s image is going on.
Speaking to The Express Tribune, Dr Ashfaq Hasan Khan of the Nust Business School said that the dress code was only applicable to the business school and has been there since its inception in 1999, adding that it is mentioned during orientation as well as printed in the prospectus of the university.
He said boys have to wear ties and dress pants, while girls have to wear shalwar kameez while we train them for a future in the corporate sector, where they have to look a certain way. “They cannot go in the field with their beards and jeans,” he said.
Whether jeans pose a threat to security or whether the varsity has an alumnus making it bigger in the industry than Steve Jobs — who happened to have a beard, are some of the questions poking fun at the university’s decision that takes away personal choices from the students on Twitter.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 27th, 2013.
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Nustian, no i wanted proper education not madrassah education, i never tried to get into that madrassah you call NUST in the first place.
Discipline has to be enforced and it has nothing to do with religion. 'Grooming by taking away personal choices' doesn't mean one comes to university naked because it is his personal choice. As I say again, it is not because of religion but discipline and uniformity has to be enforced in universities.
@UrbanDecay : I am talking about the so called 'Paying' cadets of NUST. They pay no tuition (a mere hundred rupee as tuition is a joke), undergo no entrance exam and get to choose any major they like. They usually choose the most hard to get into majors like Electronic and Computer Engineering. In these prized majors so called 'Paying' cadets are 35% of the class.
A good university is a place of learning and preparing future responsible Pakistanis: whereas NUST practices these out discriminatory admission and tuition policies.
@mane:
I live in Canada, I haven't seen a beach where women don't wear bikinis.
@Nustian: Or maybe he declined their offer!!! It is not like MIT, it is just another university from Pakistan.
I belong to a Agricultural family, we use to wear thoti "Khula Dullah Style" in village. Is this usual to wear a thoti in Collage/university. off course not.. So let it be the way management want to do. rules are not always handy for individuals but for a group/community/organization. Rules are rules and should be followed.
why don't they just implement a uniform? most students cannot afford to buy and wear dress shoes (they wear our faster than sneakers) and dress pants to university. Also its convenient for girls to wear different kurtas with jeans. Already the fees of these institutions is so high, plus transport expenditure, plus books and other stuff....adding extra cost of 'dress' is ridiculous. And as someone pointed out most organizations these days do not care for these things and in Pakistan in most organizations, girls do wear jeans!
I am a student of one the engineering schools in NUST, H-12. I wear jeans, tights and at times not take a dupatta. The hostel curfew timings for the female hostels is 9:30, and for the boys 11 o'clock. The 7:30 hostel curfew claim is false. The three cafes, Concordia 1, 2 and NG Cafe. Girls and boys are allowed in C1 and C2 together before 5:30. After that, the cafeterias are separate. This is a recent rule in light of complaints by some girls. As far as the last cafeteria is concerned, it was built mainly for the laborers working inside the campus. Girls and along with BOYS are fined in NUST Business School for wearing jeans! It is their dress code (formal attire). These students were fined for VIOLATING a code of conduct, just like a student was fined for smoking on a smoking-free campus. The Rector in his address did not say "dupatta" was a security measure. How a person perceives his surroundings is his opinion, not to be taken as a fact.The environment inside the university is not different from our society if not better. You can't wear shorts in Pakistan and not stared at. We are asked to wear 'decent attire' expect for Business School which has a separate 'formal dress code'. Please read the dress code specified in the code of conduct handbook, as well as checking your facts before writing an article.
After reading this, I'm glad that I didnn't apply for NUST. It's obvious that the school doesn't treat its student body as adults. Good to know that Zia-ul-Haq's moral policing is still prevalent in public institutions of higher learning (sarcasm).
P.S: Please don't compare Harvard's- or similar institution's- dress code to NUST. People are allowed to wear jeans on campus and to most classes in the West.
I am a student of NUST and study at H-12 SEECS electrical engineering and most of what is stated above is quiet wrong and false. Our media is so arrogant and without confirmation and truly observing the situation at the place of concern they publish lies. Besides from NBS all the other campuses of NUST-H-12 allows its students to wear whatever they want. Only NBS (NUST Business School) has a specific dress code that is Business Oriented and is followed by the students. The notice about some students was about the violation of dress code not suitable for business matters. Even boys are not allowed to wear jeans there, every dress must be formal business dress to groom the students for future matters. Anyone who doubts this can come to SEECS or any other campus and see with their wide open eyes the girls of the university wearing all kinds of dresses.
@Ather: I am an overseas student and pay just as much as a civilian AND an army child. This was such a baseless accusation it made me laugh. There is NO discrimination on your background. This reminds me, that there is a student I know who topped the board in her area and is the daughter of a farmer and she could not afford to pay anything. She is now on a full scholarship and is exempted from most of her dues. Think before you talk please.
The reason is the protection of male students who can not keep their minds on the lessons and their eyes roll in the direction of tight jeans. With modest dress, they will be able to better focus on the class work. Alternatively, may be NUST has received an ultimatum from Taliban in which case, students should be thankful to NUST for this simple advice.
@Muneeb: you are one of those who go rejected at NUST entry test , right?
No, claims are not false! Students have been fined for not wearing dopatta and wearing jeans. And you know what, they put the fine notice on the university notice board. Even they advertised and tried to humiliate the girls publically. I think they should be brought to justice. They are snatching personal freedom and claim to groom the students? Most of NUST students are bachelors and they come from home. Their parents and family do not restrict them to wear the kind of dress because for them it is decent and proper. Why NUST would tell them not to wear it? This decision of the university should be condemned and they should revise their rules!
remind me please; how many of you liberals raised voice when face veil was forbidden in france? was that not taking away of personal freedom? but then again; you are not a liberal if you are not a hypocrite!
If Harvard have a dress code then why not NUST.
@Saad Khalil: I haven't seen any business meeting going with members wearing sandals and tea shirts. which business company you are working in??? Even a medical rep wears proper suit when he goes for medicine order to a doctor. you study whole year and tested in 3 hours. likewise you dress up properly in meeting for one hour perhaps but you may have to spend four years to learn how to properly dress up for four years.
People! u know why we can't progress because we are still fulfilling basic needs as given by Maslow. Dressing is not that big issue that everyone is spending energies and rubbing their minds to bring something out of nothing. We are confused nation n so called Muslims. We underdress and overdress without reasons and get stuck up like here discussing why. Dress modestly which can present your balanced personality.Underdressing has always been questioned in any nation so there is no harm in dressing modestly. As far as overdressing is concerned like doing veil or having beard, please act like educated ones and give others space and freedom to practise their believes. I am sure if there were rules of not wearing dupatta then there would not have been that much debate. This rule of dress code is exclusively for NBS where the graduates pass out n end up at corporations. Corporations used to say, we need smart slaves. Try to act like one, students of NBS, don't scream and yes welcome to corporate world.
A solid majority - 70-80% - of my friends working in various functions of the FMCG, media planning, telecom and autmotive sector wear shalwar kamees or jeans (untucked shirt) to the office. Maybe NUST should try behaving like a science minded institute and change with the times. You know, adaption or evolve.
The Talibanization of Pakistan is nearing its zenith.
@Saad Khalil:
Saad, you have a point. Almost all my classfellows from EME work in Engineering/Telco firms and they have no such thing as a 'dress code'. However, I ended up in Banking and here dressing is one of the measures of your grooming; what colour shirts one wears (for instance, only a douce will wear a bright-red formal shirt to a bank and believe me some people do!). Most business school across the world requirement students to dress up Business casual with Harvard describing business casual as: • Open-necked, collared shirts or blouses and sweaters • Khakis or other pressed pants • Leather or casual walking shoes ref: http://www.hbs.edu/employment/faqs/Pages/default.aspx http://www.exed.hbs.edu/program/info/programinfo/during.html
Great step by NUTS, but without BURQA?
A personal opinon: I'm not a very practicing Muslim. I live abroad and quite often hangout in bars with Muslim/non-Muslim friends (but of course I keep myself away from alcohol). In general, I absolutely don't care (or get perturbed) when any non-Muslim woman is in proximity; but honestly, when I'm close to any Muslim woman (modestly dressed), my eyes automatically bow down out of respect for her. I think this isn't specific to me; most Muslim men feel the same way. It would be a grave misfortune that Muslim woman in our country would westernize themselves in the name of social freedom, and gradually lose the lofty respect they implicity enjoy among Muslim men.
It has become fashionable in Pakistan to project oneself as open to women sensuality in the name of social liberalism, especially among men. Perhaps it's a sign of slow but sure moral decadence, and it's a pity that you cannot even openly speak against it these days without being labelled as 'Taliban-like'.
I come from a liberal background, but I feel our traditional 'shalwar-kameez-duppata' for woman is the world's best ladies dress! It's not extreme like a burqa, nor is it too sensual as tights/leggings.
Perhaps the more liberal readers here (I think most DAWN readers are the liberal elite) would disagree on the use of word 'sensual' but what I can say, tights/leggings are sensual. Then again, I often get to hear the remark that 'sensuality is in the men's minds who are looking at those woman', and therefore, it's the men who are to be blamed and not the woman in skin-fits! And I often reply with the analogy: "As per this logic, everything bad is not actually bad because it's a preception in someone's mind; therefore, no action whatsoever can be called bad, and the person who calls it bad is actually the bad! Which is certainly senseless!"
Anyways, Pakistani Media is surely promoting liberalism; otherwise, this news is no news at all!
storm in a teacup.
NUST should rename themselves to National University of Shariaty Taleban.
Burqa for the fairer sex please and shalwars above ankles for boys,only then would NUST be able to give Harvard, IITs,Yale and Oxford a run for their money. #Imbecils
@ UrbanDecay, hypocrisy isn't a trait of liberals, it belongs to fundos who love taking personal freedoms away. Professional environments require intermingling of both genders, why would any parent be against that?
Get rid of this archaic thinking. NUST is just another madrassah!
So would Nust business school allow a woman to wear a business suit? Formal pants and shirt? Like what professional women all over the world wear?
NUST's slogan should be changed from "Defining Futures" to "Fining Futures".
Not to disrespect Dr. Ashfaq Khan or Saad D here, I have been working in one of the top telecom companies since last 2 years and also in head office with top management of this company, all of us here are wearing jeans, irrespective of department they are working in. Most of corporate companies have very lenient dress code where employees are not fined or penalised for wearing jeans or t-shirts or even sandales. Business schools should adapt as the trend changes.
Dear Express Tribune - I considered your posts reliable! But looking at this, I doubt the credibility of anything you publish! "The latest enforcement of a dress code which resulted in girls getting fined for not dressing up ‘modestly’ stirred a storm at one of the top-ranking institutes of the country." The enforcement of dress code in its true spirit is anything but "latest". I am from NUST batch of 2006 and since my very first day I knew these rules because I cared to read the joining instructions and probably all those whining on being fined didn't bother to read the same! And as for "children of military" as referred to in the above comment paying no tuition fee - I would love to avail this opportunity if it exists anywhere. This is not true.. yes they do get rebates but not as generous as being mentioned here! Its high time we start giving respect to our country and its institutes rather than playing blame games and ruining the ranking of the very few of our universities recognized worldwide!
If you do not like NUST discipline then do not study there. Join LUMS or some other private university where the atmosphere is more relaxed. But do not degrade your institution just because it wants you to dress in a culturally acceptable way. Pakistan will never become a liberal, moderate country. The majority of the people of Pakistan do not approve the wearing of skin tight jeans and sleeveless shirts.
As someone who hated his days at NUST and was actually fined at EME College for not wearing the uniform correctly i.e black belt, black socks, nameplate (yeah I've been fined for that too), I have to say that this article is clearly written by someone who has never stepped inside a NUST campus. As far as NBS is concerned, the have always implemented a 'dress code' for Business School students to look professional. Please do a little more research before writing your articles.
grooming is always done my taking away personal choices. every world class institutes have dress codes and they follow them with pride. If one of our leading institute is doing something to groom their students whats wrong in it? ET try writing something on the research works being done in NUST, UET, GIKI and other leading universities of Pakistan..
Please let it go now. Is wearing dupatta such a big inconvenience ?
Like there was a blog yesterday, please focus on helping our brothers and sisters in Balochistan. They r suffering from real issues in life.
And as for the topic. I don't see what is everyone's problem with a decent dress code. It's not like NUST has asked you to dress down. They only want you to dress up decently and in a presentable way. Their definitions of decency might contradict yours but are in accordance with society and our religious norms. Wearing a dupatta or not wearing jeans does not limit your mental capability, it is not a sign of suppression. Male students aren't allowed jeans either, because it is an informal attire. It's time you grow up and start dressing up sensibly. At least within the boundaries of institute. And as for maintaining a distance and hostel curfew that is for your own safety. Whatever liberals may claim, they certainly won't allow free mingling of their kids, esp their daughters with boys. Ask your parents, they will support this decision. And so will 90 percent of the NUSTians. The remaining 10 percent is the confused lot who think sign of liberation is dressing down and mingling with the other gender.
@Ather: I think you are misinformed. In NUST, only technical cadets pay no tution fee. A technical cadet may or may not be a ward of an army personnel. There are a few seats reserved for Armed forces kids but they are very few in number and if you are on open merit you cannot apply for that seat. You are elligible to apply for that seat ONLY if you fall below the merit in NUST and in UETs after taking entry tests, if you fall in merit at any department in these both universities you cannot apply for the army seat. All the open merit students pay equally except Technical Cadets for which Army pays because these students are later recruited in Army and they aren't selected on the basis of their father's rank, they have to fulfill certain criterias and pass certain tests. Think before you accuse, or rather, research before you accuse.
Why does dress matter in education. Great step by NUST
"Admissions on merit — evident by the fact" Definitely not so! Civilian students have to pay tuition through the nose and undergo entrance exams. The children of Military studying in NUST pay no tuition (A mere hundred rupees tuition is a joke) and are admitted to any faculty of their liking even if they have received third division in Intermediate. NUST prides itself on being a superior University but no University should practice this outright discriminatory admission and tuition policy policy.
If only you had studied there you would know that these claims are false. Next time when writing about one of the best University of Pakistan, make sure you talk to the people who have spent 4-5 years there rather than those who are studying. You'll get a positive picture but then again you won't publish it.
For the students who are giving their reviews to the newspaper, Keep calm and stop degrading your home. One day when you will be interviewed your Institutions name will have more worth than your name.