The Condemned: A documentary on Ahmadi persecution
The short documentary is a collection of testimonies in which those Ahmadis who have faced persecution narrate the target killings of loved ones, discrimination at the hands of fellow students and what it is like to live in jail as a blasphemy convict.
A town called Rabwah
Rabwah, is a town of District Jhang with the highest population of Ahmadis in Pakistan. The town is also home to some who have been convicted of blasphemy and under the anti-Ahmadi Ordinance of 1984, making them prisoners in this town.
A major chunk of the report was filmed in Rabwah and identities of some community members have been hidden for the sake of their security. The young man who shares the story of the horrors his family faced after his brother was accused of blasphemy has now left Pakistan. Therefore, we took the risk of showing his face on-camera. The town still provides a sense of security for the rest, so the condemned could speak with hidden faces.
Terror and truth
“Is she sure she will be able to run the interviews? What about the censorship, what about the backlash?”
These were the questions asked when this scribe approached the Ahmadi community members for the video report on their plight. Such concerns arose as a consequence of their experience with the mainstream Urdu press, who finally dared to address the Ahmadi debate after the May 28, 2010 bombings at two Ahmadi places of worship in Lahore. Unfortunately, the Urdu press continued its precedent of not covering the faith-based target killings of Ahmadis, not raising the question of discrimination faced by this community, and continuing to cover events by different religious organizations that are openly anti-Ahmadi.
However, the regular coverage of Ahmadi persecution and threat to the lives of community members by leading English publications eventually opened space to allow video documentation of the persecution of this minority group.
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A brilliantly done job. Keep it up.
@aysabakhat: Making a general statement and trying to defame a person or a community is not fair. So, I request you to prove your allegation.
@Mohsin Sayeed: Reality is bitter so if the persons favouring what present Rabid no matter and if some of them are innocent Muslim beware of the tactics of this Jamaat they only wanted to defaced Islam and Pakistan
Belated Eid Mubarik to all.
@iftikhar ahmad: This paper is all for you. Staffed by you. News about u.
@Sardar KHAN: What happens in the world hereafter is the business between each person and his God. But how come you are making peace for Ahmadis conditional to accepting a certain set of beliefs. Does Islam lay down such like conditions for grant of peace to its people? La Iqra Fid Deen?
Who will the promised Messiah be? Will he be a prophet? How will the onset of the promised Messiah affect the finality of the prophet-hood? I look forward to response from all Muslims and the sundry, the ones who are not Ahmadis.
An Eye opening documentary . You've really put in your efforts. Wonder if it will ever be on-aired by some news channel.
@MuzJee: When it appears in the Urdu media,then there is hope and a new dawn
@Aaryan: Just come to the true Islam,"Saying I believe Prophet Muhammud PBU.is the FINAL Prophet of ALLAHA SWT. and no one is a prophet after HIM PBU." I assure you will have peace not only in this world but also in the next life.
Allah grant secure shelter to all Ahmedies.
@Ahmad: I appreciate your condemnation of the persecution of Ahmedis. Examples of all types are available to be quoted and so are the proverbs e.g. Might is Right. However, the universally accepted moral values and more importantly the teachings of the Holy Quran and the teachings/practice of the holy prophet (pbuh) are the beacon light for us while quoting examples and practicing our deeds. I also condemn the killings/persecution of Muslims in Burma, other parts of the world or even in Pakistan. However, these killings and persecutions should not be cited to cover up or belittle the persecution of others like Ahmedis. A bad thing is bad. It's rather surprising to learn from you that the Law is for protecting the belief of majority living in this country and quoting the example of Germany. I think we need to give good example to support our arguments. The majority should have full faith in its beliefs and needs no protection of law that restrictions are imposed on a minority for fear of conversions from majority to the minority. Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) did not spread Islam following what you are talking about. The holy prophet (pbuh) displayed strength of his character to spread Islam which manifested truthfulness, honesty, justice, tolerance and kindness. He did not introduce any law to prevent others from practicing their faith and even preaching it. I am really surprised that you think your beliefs to be so vulnerable that you need the support of a law. Beliefs come from within and can't be forced upon others.
Let us first agree if a promised messiah was to come in this era or not. Whether that person has come or not can only be dealt with after agreement on the first question. If the answers is positive, then we ought to agree that the advent of messiah will not adversely affect the Khatamiat of the holy prophet (pbuh).
Brilliant and brave job done.
Hazarat Ghulameahmed of Qadian (AS) was an "ASHIQE SADIQ" [TRUE LOVER] of Hazarat Muhammad Mustafa (SAW) and NO one can match that. The Non-Ahmadis who call them Muslims should "READ" the books of the Promised Messiah and find out the true stature of the Messiah,
Well, I'm sure, no channel in this country has the courage to broadcast it on air. However it is a great effort and courage to discuss the taboo of Ahmadis, and hence appreciable. Reading out all the comments above, disappoints me even more. We are so biased, even our so-called educated ones can't make the sense out of it and their stubborn prejudiced minds against Ahmadis come out with radical thoughts. This docummentary does not deal with what their religion is. It deals with what your religion is (i.e. Islam) and what are you doing in the name of islam. Leave them whatever they are until they are not creating disorder or rebellion in Pakistan. At least give them the basic human rights, if you are not willing to give them their rights as Pakistanis. Shame on you. I blame these educated illiterate Pakistanis more than the uneducated ones. what is the use of this education when it was unable to remove the filth of your minds? Just think...
When a Muslim says "la ilaha illallah muhammadur rasulullah" he/she confirms his/her belief that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the LAST Prophet. Those who do not believe in this, (like the Hindus, the Christians, The Jews and so forth, ) do not declare themselves as Muslims, so they are tolerated much more than those who try to deceive other Muslims by pretending to be Muslims while they are NOT.
As for hatred and killings, the report says 200 Ahmadis are killed as a result of hatred since 1984,,,,,, Without being supportive of those killings, I want to draw attention that target killings which happen every day in Karachi alone amount to much more, and need to be addressed on a higher priority.
On the prevalence of Islamic Law in Pakistan, surely we have astrayed a lot from the main course, and from the reason why our forefathers gave their blood to get us independence. And surely we have forgotten or deleted the echoes of 1947 when scores would chant day after day without fear , "Pakistan Ka Matlub Kiya, La ilaha illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah"
its been more than 200 years, it is not the early years. Ahmadi's are non- Muslims and its a fact. Otherwise u r trying to say that 1.5 Arab of Muslims are Kaafir.
@A brother in faith: It is because Shia-muslims are not condemnd as being Non-Muslim, but Ahmadi Muslims are declared to be non-Muslim by whole so called Muslim Ummah. Shia Muslims are allowed to say Assalamoalaikum, do Adhan, say Kalima Shahada, say that they are Muslims, but these rights the Ahmadiyya followers do not have.
SO by most muslims defintion. If you are a non muslim you are eligible to die. I hope that is not the case in other religions because millions of muslims live in western countries. If their religion which we muslims believe is inferior to islam can teach them tolerance against non muslims than we should be fine. But if it doesnt very soon laws would be passed to kill all non christians, jews, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists in their respective countries. The final judgement is in the hands of Allah. We are nobody to judge someones faith. Its between them and their god. Ahmedis are Pakistanis just like shias, sunnis and deobandis. Our laws should protect them and not allow these murderous factions to propogate hate and discrimnation against. Them We as Paksitanis should be against all forms of hate and discrimination. Becasue it it is their women in children today it can be yours tomorrow. Hate does not discriminate. Also despite all that these mullahs have done to the Ahmedis I have not seen one incident of intolerance from the Ahmedis towards anyone. Not even the ones who slaughter them. I think they are more practicing in their faith of tolerance than most so called muslims I know.
Indeed a very refined piece of work by Rabia Mehmood, highlighting the atrocities against the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. Now it is a challenge for the journalists in Pakistan to seek answers from the perpetrators, and ensure their answers are enlightened by the teachings of the Holy Quran and the Holy Prophet of islam. They may start by explaining why is it okay to defy "There is no compulsion in religion" and "killing one person is like killing the entire nation"...May truth prevail, Inshya Allah!
@Usama Javed: I am extremely shocked to read your comments saying that Ahmedis are not Muslim.Ahmdis believe in KALMA and 5-pillars of Islam and Holy Book called Holy Quran.The final shariat from GOD.Read little bit about Islam and history.Please read the last Sermon of Holy Prophat peace be upon .For God sake read and observe how he lived his life his treatment with non-muslims his merci for poor people.Let me ask you do you know what Ahmedis believe in .I want to communicate with if you are willing to and use descent language Other wise God bless you . have a nice day.
@Sardar KHAN: Thank you very much for the compliments. Yes Sir Ahmadis do take shelter under the Holy Quran always and every time. It is Allah's Book and to HIM, Ahmadis always fall back to seek guidance and shelter in all their difficult times and also in their moments of happiness. Yes Sir Ahmadis take pride in it.
Thanks for showing real face of the society, May Alla enable them to understand the real message of Islam.
@Usama Javed: Dear Usman Salam-a-Masnoon You are very much mitaken. If Ahmadie are not muslims in spite of the fact they love Islam, practice it and propagate it, then who else is Muslims, who never care for the teachings of the HOLY Quran, who are erasing Kalma Tayyab from the face of Masajid and who are killing innocent people..., Absolute culmination of Prophethood is against the teaching of Islam and Quran and Ahadiths. Are you not waiting for Hadhrat Eis a s to come? The prophethood which is culminated is with a new Shariah. Din-a-mullah fee sbeelillah fsad. May Allah guide you. No one has right to give verdict in the matter of faith not even Assembly. Ask guidence from Allah. May Allah guide you the path He is pleased with Aameen. Zarif Ahmad
Jazakallah Rabia for bringing this up. May Allah help you in every step of your life. In such a state where one does not have a secured life, how next generations can flourish and grow. This negativity will hinder in the development of Pakistan. Students should raise questions of quality of education and services in the country but not one's religion afterall they all are Pakistani. Everyone has to face the Day of Judgement. Leave this for that and live the world peacefully and @Sarah Ahmadis are Muslims, you can ask any Ahmadi kid to recite Kalma Tayyaba for you.
Also, there is a Divine Hand of God on Ahmadis, whenever something bad happen in one part of the world, HE Bless millions other Ahmadis living in other peaceful countries, these sacrifices are not going fruitless.
Very well done Rabia Mehmood! Really a good documentary. JAZAK ALLAH.
I salute those who persecute. May Allah give all of us the same courage and strength Ameen.
Ahmadiyyat Zindabad
@Sardar KHAN:
I did not read all comments but read your post. I find your logic very naive and irrational. Your fist statement amused me. You wrote, “The trouble with you marzais/ahmedis is if you have nonswer to thepoint raised,you jump to take a sheild of Holy Quran.” Brother, is there any shield more compulsive than Holy Quran? If Holy Quran covers anybody than all other theological arguments will not change any true Muslim’s mind. All other arguments automatically become null and void when Quran states otherwise. Mind you, I am not saying that he is right or you are right I am just showing you the hollowness of your logic. Secondly, you are assuming and accusing that Ahmadis never read Quran properly. Ahmadis can level similar allegation against you. Therefore, this kind of generalization and sweeping statements does not stand in any intellectual and productive discussion. Brother, generalization is a byproduct of a subjective approach and you can never achieve any results from it, except, maligning each other and each other’s believes. May Allah guide all of us on the right path.
first of all, i salute Rabia Mehmood and ET for once again giving space to the plight of Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. As mentioned above, English media is daring to dedicate its pages for the oppressed but i wonder when will the popular Urdu media will bother to highlight these issues. The Urdu paper of the Express group continuously prints Anti-Ahmadiyya hateful propaganda just like Jang, Nawa e Waqt, etc. This tells us that the group owner is pleasing both liberal and rightist forces by his English and Urdu publications. Though i am very thankful to ET for producing this documentary, but still i can’t resist saying that the target viewers of this documentary are liberal or at least educated class. I wish Mr Lakhani would allow it to be telecasted on Express News channel as well, which has a wider range of viewers, if he is honest in raising awareness against persecution. The 2nd amendment, the Ordinance XX and blasphemy law are a clear violation of human rights in pakistan. Without repealing such black laws we cannot hope for a better pakistan. Ahmadis are loyal and patriot citizens of this country and have equal right to live and demand equal human rights. God bless Pakistan
@Sardar KHAN: We, the Ahmedis, believe Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to be the promised Messiah who always claimed to be the follower of Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) and Islam and so we do, the Ahmadis. One of his couplets in Persian when translated in English would mean, "I am mesmerized by the love of Muhammad (pbuh) after the love of God, if doing so is kufr, I have committed a great kufr".
We, the Ahmedis, don't force others to become Ahmedis as we believe in La Ikra fi Din. With the prevalent persecution of Ahmedis, only a fool will become Ahmedi without due conviction knowing the price he/she may have to pay for the conversion. Going by your words that the promised Messiah will be Hazrat Esa's (as) second coming, please explain as to how this second advent will occur and if Hazrat Esa (as), during his second advent, be a prophet or not.
Qadyan is the name of a village in Amritsar and certainly all Ahmedis do not belong to Qadyan which is why we call ourselves Ahmedis and not Qadyanis just like all Muslims are not Makki or Madni. Also, Mirza is a caste of persian clan and there are many non Ahmedis who use Mirza as a prefix to their name but all Ahmedis do not belong to that clan which is why we don't call ourselves as Mirzais. The holy prophet (pbuh) asked his followers not to call others by bad names and not to abuse others and so on. So, we expect the followers (which we, the Ahmedis, too, are) of Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) to practice what you believe in and follow his teachings and practices.
@Sardar KHAN: Name of followers of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is Ahmadis and the Passport of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan marks them as 'Ahmadiyya' which is the right name of Ahmadis and they proudly call themselves. Calling somebody or some religion by a name which is not the name of that religion just to offend or tease is contrary to the teachings of Holy Quran which you as a Muslim must be reciting. It is not expected from a reasonable and a sober person to resort to such a practice.
@Naeem Rana: Going through all this and perceiving it to be such how else do you have to learn the way to popularity!
Great job!!!!
Nice work, I hope some has guts to air this.
great work done by journalist
when I heard that two of our mosques were attacked it was heart-rending news for me then I was informed that my father was martyred there, I recited the verse inna lillahi_ wa_ innaillaihay_ rajeoon.At that time society was supposed to give me moral support but I was marooned at all, My class fellows were told to stay away from me.My best friends used to abuse me that" I am an infidel and a follower of apostate prophet",After his demise I along with my family were confined to the premises of our house and we were discriminated in the society but Almighty Allah is with us we have nothing to do with you,but we have to do with the great teachings of Holy Prophet (S.A.W) and Almighty Allah .I leave my case to the court of Allah, I seek justice and refuge from His divine court,not the court of yours.My message is LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE
In every religion they have their own identity and their own name like, Christians, Jews , Hindus Muslims so and so, The Muslims are the followers of Muhammed (PBUH) and believes on one God (ALLAH), Ahmedis don't believe that the Muhammed (PBUH) is the last holly prophet and they have so many disbelieves with Muslims and the follow Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani then why they keep insisting to being called Muslims? They represent their selves with title "Muslman" and want to use the name "Masjid" for their worship places. If they have conflicts on believes with Muslims then why they don't come up with some other Title which represent their own identity? Most of the time Muslims got annoyed when Ahmedis called their selves a Muslim, this is not acceptable to most of the "Musalman Community". Like what if Hindus of Pakistan start calling their selves a Muslim and claim that the word "Musalman" is not registered only for the followers of Muhammed (PBUH) we can also use it.
@Muslim: Isn't it an utter confession on your part that you can not support your beliefs with reason or reference from the holy book? You, as Muslims, are supposed to preach and spread Islam. Let's see doing that. But do it following the sunnah of the holy prophet i.e. personal conduct of love, peace and tolerance.
@Ali: Almost all Muslms believe in the advent of a Messiah & Mehdi as was foretold by Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh). Even non Muslims like the Christians, Hindus and Budhists are waiting for the Christ, Krishna and Budha. We, the Ahmedis, do consider Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a prophet, the promised Messiah and Mehdi. Non Ahmedis are still waiting for one.
Sardar KHAN: @Akhshay;india I am surprised to see my name being used by a bunderstani to comment on this story.Either you are a raw paid agent or a habutual liar to use other persons identity.This proves how low these bunderstanis could go to melign the name of Pakistan.To put the record straight:- a) Pakistan is not a secular state at all.It is Islamic Republic i.e.Islam is the religion of State b)Bunderstan is a so called secular state.But in reality it is a hindu state in all its actions. c)Record on the treatment of miniorities of bunderstan is so bad it is known all over the world and whatever you do you can't hide it. d)So stop using fictitious name to melign,giving bad name and spreading dirt on Pakistan. By using a muslim name,you will not succeed in your dirty games for which you are paid. As for as the real truth is you bunderstanis are upto their neck in supressing and killing the people of miniority religion in your country.It is still going on in assam.You must die with shame for all the trouble your countrymen are giving to your own countrymen i.e.to the mniorities.Hope you will never again use someone else' name to comment.It will be better not to coment at all.On the other hand you bunderstanis are so shameless it will not shame you at al. .
@tariq: You have all the right to call others as Muslims or non Muslims or whatever you feel like. However, if you are a follower of Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh), you must be knowing that the holy prophet (pbuh) considered everyone a Muslim who recited Kalima. So, you may like to ask your self as to what your true beliefs are?
@Usama Javed: What about the arrival of the promised Messiah?
I fully agree with you.@Akshay, India:
@Usama Javed: In the history of the Islam the Definition of a muslim has been never made, this is done first time in Pakistan, if u really know the history of Islam. What u talking about the other muslim’s rights? Are they having the patent of Words Muslim, Mosque or even verses of Quran. So that no one else can use it for own self. And this is not the responsibility of state to decide the faith of any single one. State has no right to make decision regarding anyone faith, this is obvious from the early Islamic state example.
Rabia...
I must say that "Hat's Off to you". You have done a great job...! And people who dare to speak the Truth. Allah is always with them...
this ideology of Pakistani Mullahs show that it was better to be persecuted as Muslims by the hands of Hindus in India. It is far more shameful attitude that some sects who have gained power or influence over others start such persecution especially Ahmadies are facing it at regular intervals and seeking help from Allah Almighty.
@Observer: "! Not only the Ahmedis, but the Mohajirs have also come to regret the Partition", who told you that we Ahmadies are regretting the partition. There is not a single Ahmadi in Pakistan who regrets Partition or creation of Pakistan. This is our homeland more than those mullahs who were against the پ of Pakistan. Ahmadies have been and will always remain at the forefront whenever our dear homeland requires any sacrifices or services. History of Pakistan, of course not the tempered history but the legitimate history, has never faced a situation where our country required the services and sacrifices and Ahmadies were not at the forefront. Ahmadies have fought with the military in 1948 at the front of Kashmir, the battle of Run of Kuch was fought by Gen Iftakhar Janjua, battle of Chawinda by Gen Abdul Ali Malik, In Air force Sqd Leader Munir ud din and many more who have been omitted from the history for they all were Ahmadies. Dr. Salam's contributions and services are no more hidden, Ch. Zafrullah Khan's services have been given complete twists and tempered in history books but true accounts are always available for the truth seekers.
To be very honest, for the first time ever I felt sympathy for Ahmadies. Conversely its a biassed video, like the producer should have added the general opinion of true Islamic Scholars too. An advice to Ahmadies, stop calling yourself Muslim and stop associating your believes with Islam, this is the only solution to stop yourselves from persecution. Islam has limitations, nobody has the right to change it accordingly. However being a Sunni Muslim, I condemn the brutal maassacre of humanity in Pakistan.
Murtaza Hussain! No sane person should be keen to pretend or represent the faith that you are presenting under the beautiful garb of Islam. I am shocked to read your logic. Right or wrong . . ..does this justify the shameful cruelties on the innocent victims of school going teenage and tender age children????. If this is how you interpret Islam, THE RELIGION OF PEACE, then I am sorry to say that the people around you should be worried about their fate. Because tomorrow if somebody with a stronger muscle applies the same logic to you, then you probably will have no place to run away. The key to understanding is to apply the same logic to yourself and then see how it looks like. Please give some calm and quiet thing to my submissions.
@Muhammad Irfan: Just like you have the right to call one whatever you want, others have the right to practice or say whatever they want.
How ironic!! The Ahmedis were at the forefront in demanding the formation of Pakistan in order to be free from Hindu "tyranny"!! Not only the Ahmedis, but the Mohajirs have also come to regret the Partition as declared by Altaf Hussain in Delhi. Altaf openly said the Partition was a mistake and asked india to take back the 20 Million Muhajirs. All this proves that the narrow ideology of religion can never be a sound foundation for a nation.
@Haroon Baloch: Honestly ask the same question from your heart, I am sure you will get the answar. Reply one of my question: Have god given the rights to a human or state to decide about somesone religion or faith?? Is their any example except from Pakistan that any state has declared someone faith ?? By the way Ahmedis are not living only in Pakistan a major count is living in India and other countries as well - had God given the right to any one to kill on faiths grounds ?? expel from school, my dear you are not facing hate propogenda on the basis of faith, otherwise you never have said these word that expel from school is normal job - Allah na keray ke app kabhi hate compaign ka target banoo, specially in Pakistan
@Junaid: Who are you or any state to decide someone's faith and religion. My friend can you tell me if God has given the right to you do decide some mone faith and propogate that. I do not think that ou even have a basic knowledge of Islam, Islam is a greatest religion but you know Mulims are called terrorists due to people like you and have similar thoughts. You might not know that million of Muslims are living in non-muslim countries and enjoying full rights, where as Islam claim the same but people like to hijacked Islam and presenting it as a worse religion on earth. Be happy and re-think on your knowledge.
Rabia Mehmood - Not only a great Job but also a brave job for producing documentary. We will pray for your safety and longlife from extremist wing of Pakistan, as they are tollerent at all. Few example you may find in comments given by some of our friends with the start that they are not in favour of slutter someone but bla bla bla. My only question is what Islam teaches us ?? are we really practicing that ?????
@Shayan: Could you please tell what is the rich way to get the populaity ??? in your openion
@Usama Javed: My dear bigger Muslim who have given the right to you to declare some one Muslim and some one non-Muslim with your choice. Ofcourse every one is liable to God for his her acts, but God has not given the right to any one to decides about others faith. May I say lack of Islamic knowledge ????
@A brother in faith:
I endorse your question - but - not highligting one issue does not stop to highlight another issue of society. Your are well aware that this kind of documentaries and columns are not given space in Pakistani media, if some one couragious enough to air this documentery I sure other minority issues also will be covered by many couragious people like Rabia Mehmood.
First of All Qaudians are Non-Muslims as per Sheria Muhammadi, By Constitution and By Logical Conclusion which everybody draws by using his mind.Secondly all abducted minds should take re-oath and re-enter into True Islam so that Ahmedi Group has conclusively finished.logical Reason behind this statement is very simple, we are Muslims first than sunni, shia or any other firqa but if we decline with our faith and basic principals and pretend to be Muslims how can we just ourselves in-front of Almighty Allah and Muhammad (S.A.W) so all people should have little understanding about Islam will definitely leave Jews & christen charities organizations and convert Islam...
Bravo Rabia your bravery make us proud. May Allah always be with you.
We are Ahmadis so the hindus should and must do such things for theis rights . Right know we are talking about the Ahmadis and not the Hindus . And where to spend our money it should not be your cup of tea
You are being blasphemous who gave you the guts to call some one who reads kalima a kafir because you are rather ignoring the word of God
Please do more research this is because God has called a lot of people non muslims but not human power
No scholar is more higher than the sayings of Hazrat Mohammad (S.A.W.) if he said that a time will come when all 72 sects will stand against the last sect .This shows that it's not how many people call us non muslims but our faith in God and Hazrat Mohammad (S.A.W).Therefore next time when you pass a comment think several times
That's rude if you cannot appreciate then donnot pass unnecessary comments. Truth is always bitter so there fore whether you call it a cheap way or expensive for nothing any one cares
It's the matter of understanding once one understands then no muslim will be hurt.When Hazrat Osama killed an infidel in the battle of badr Hazrat Muhammed Mustapha said o Osama why did you kill him while he said the kalima Hazrat Osama replied he said it out of fear Hazrat Osama says seeing His anger and disguise I wished I had not been a Muslim before that day. There fore just try and understand the logic we give you then that you will know who is being hurt and who is not
Thank you Rabia for your splendid efforts in bringing light to this whole issue and a big thank you to Express Tribune as well.
I just hope if one can also make an effort where one documentary can be released explaining what Ahmadi Muslims belief is so it can silence all the haters in a similar fashion.
Yahan per to har insaan ney apna Islam bana kar rakha hua, jab chahey jisko non-muslim/muslim kehdo.
Yet again, Love for all - hatred or none! :)
outstanding job by Rabia - a wonderful documentary
Good work rather brave one! Best of luck to all the concernees who made it fisible and publish, It should continue More work has to be done
May Allah always be with u! Amin
An one more shameful act. Where is Chief Justice of Pakistan? Where is Khadim Ala Punjab? SHA
A brave step by Rabia Mehmood. Truly,
@zff: Pakistani approved Sunni, please get your accreditation from Saudi Arabia and then spread your notion of supremacy which the poor ahmadis are facing every day. Horrible. Isn't Allah has the final say who is a Muslim and who is it. Please protect your minorities, Pakistan
@Hina: You are a Muslim under Indian law. Some deobandis sent a petition to a Indian court to label you as nonmuslim. The petition was dismissed and the petitioner was fined. You can google search it . Thank you
@Usama Javed: Great !!!!! Ahmadis are not Muslims, shias believe in Ali as a imam, they will be next. Great bhai carry on the sectarian atrocities. Oh, I don't blame you , Sikhs, Hindus and christains are less to find in pakistan now a days. I bet Osama bin laden was you hero, you hypocrite, ahmadis are muslims , respect them for the sake of jinnah and Pakistan. Sat sri akal
@A brother in faith: Brother please wait your turn. Hindus, Sikhs and christains are decimated in number . Now is the turn of the ahmadis, shias will be next. Please have patience. At least a further 10 years, then you will be next. Sabar karo bhai !!! Hazara and baloch are non issues.
The Video shows the true face of the Pakistani's. All those who support such acts of persecution by remaining silent are answerable too !! This Islamic Republic is a disgrace !!
The Hindus, Sikhs, Ahmedis and other non Muslims are living in this land since thousands of years. For instance I am Sindhi since last 6000 years but Pakistan since last 64 years so my origin is Sindhi and not Pakistani. My Sindh has been deprived in every field due to its being part of Pakistan. Why the aborigine people of any faith who are living in this land since time immortal should leave their heaths and homes. If fanatic Muslims do not like them they should leave this country. With regards to Burma Muslims they are Bengalis and had gone to Burma as they had gone to India in 1970 which had triggered war between India and Pakistan. Then there are 55 other Muslim countries if they are not secure there they should be sent to Saudi Arabia or any other Muslim country and why Pakistan alone.
excellently done..............jazakumullah..........God bless you
Thank you Rabia Mehmood for taking such a brave and courageous step of producing a documentary on Ahmadi plight in Pakistan. May God protect you.
Islam is a religion of peace which guarantees peace to everybody. One cannot imagine anything based on hatred, false accusations or creation of disorder to be attributed to Islam. Whosoever is doing it will have to pay its price ultimately. In fact they are already paying its price.
@Pakistani Hindu: If Atheism is the answer as you are suggesting then there will be killings in the name of Atheism for sure. Dont blame Islam or any religion for this, it is subjects/follower of any philosophy or religion that are to be blamed and real culprits as we are suffering from democracy in Pakistan as well. I believe you are not a believer in dictatorship. Are you?
@Aleem: Your statement "Today Islam is famous as a religion of the bad man" should not be generalized whole Islam. Dont forget Ahmadies are labeled non muslim only in Pakistan. In all other world Ahmadies are muslims. There is another picture of Islam that the world know now as Ahmadiyya Islam which is only peace, harmony, tolerance and humanist. So dont be so pessimistic about Islam or comment about Islam as a whole.
A bold step by the Express Tribune for such an excellent documentary for a marginalised section of the minority. Hats off for them....
let me pay my cordial gratitude to Rabia for the effert to highlight the issue of persecution of Ahmadies in Pakistan secondly anti Ahmadiyya clerics seems to promote hatred more than they should preach islam and what about a sect (Ahmadiyya) whom our ordinance declares as non Muslim and they even can't speak of our faith and recite Aadhan or Kalima publicly then how will people come to know the truth about them and real faces of these anti Ahmadiyya clerics and their supporters. May Allah let us all to set our beloved country Pakistan on the path of peace, harmony and tranquility Aamin
Jazākumullāh Aḥsan al-Jazā for this contribution!
well after watching the vdo i would like to say during my bsc from sindh we have come across a qadiyani friend at start he was bit reluctant to reveal to us that he is qadiyani but when he told we laugh and said it doesn't matter what is your believe you are friend cause as a Sindhi we are liberal and secular however the scum of Islamic extremeness is making my peoples(sindhis) think and act like animals and everybody knows what part of this land of pure is most extreme peoples who give shelter to that most nasty terrorist in the world and i know what is there agenda sell Islam and sell patriotism and eventually make us aboriginals in my own land
I am thankful to Rabia Mehmood for showing/revealing the hidden truth about the persecution of Ahmadis in Pakistan. May Allah bless you. Ameen.
Why this concern media never highlighted the issue of current Burma Muslims situation ? although they are Muslims. Please rabia just visit Burma and make the documentary please. Ahmadies are declared to be non muslim according to constitution then no more talks and debates would left i guess. Today this free media is creating serious difficulties for pakistan by addressing non issues debates and talk shows or documentaries.
I am Sorry for those who felt hatred. but this is wat third world is all about. And that too abt minority. We need to be more civilized, educated, tolerant, we have a long way to go. ... Really was impressed to see a comment for RABIA on nationality. Yes as ahmadi one gets it easily. Muz be justified too. Its anyone's right ... ... But dear all ... seeing one of the longest thread on this doc, tells me how much we hate, and how much we nt forgive others... ... May we al get light of truth ... AHMADIs are nt without mulah-ism .... which is advert by most preachers ... ... i will luv to listen to those who converted from faith of their parents ... but nt for monetary benefits ... lol ...
This is very sad indeed. But all my respect goes to this brave girl, her courage will inspire lot of those who live under constant threat of bigotry and religious extremism here in Pakistan.
@Muhammad Irfan: Why don't you quote what you are saying? Let's restrict to the Holy Quran?
@Muhammad Irfan: You may consider Ahmedis non Muslims but who gives you the right that Ahmedis should consider themselves as non Muslims. Anyone who recites Kalima becomes a Muslim. This is what it used to be before 1974. Alas, Allah and the holy prophet could not foresee which pseudo scholars of Pakistan could that the mode of becoming a Muslim will need to changed in 1974.
@Tahir Hussain: The holy prophet said words to the effect that any Muslim who called another Kalima offering a non Muslim, the former would become a non believer. The holy prophet also said that on the advent of the promised Messiah, convey him my salam and in doing that surmount the mountains if you have to. It's better to prove the founder of the Ahmediyya community wrong through discourse. The non Ahmedi Muslims should follow the teachings of Islam and the teachings/practice of the holy prophet (pbuh) while opposing Ahmedis instead of persecuting them. Who is to decide the religion of an individual? The state or the individual himself! What about Ahmedis in Pakistan who died before 1974 and other Ahmedis who are living in other countries. Is the constitution of Pakistan going to be binding retrospectively and also in all other countries, and, perhaps, Allah, too? Prior to 1974, a person would become Muslim if he/she recited Kalima both in Pakistan and the world over. Alas, Allah and the holy prophet (God forbid) did not know that the definition will need to be changed.
Really nice effort Rabia, I salute you effort.
@Abbas: "Ahmadis are non-Muslims, declared by 125 scholars of all Muslim countries in 1974. So if an Ahmadi impersonates to be a muslim then Law should be brought in action against them and this would not be persecution of Ahmadis".
This is in response to the above quoted comment of Mr. Abbas. After a ghazva, a sahabi (ra) proudly informed the holy prophet that he had killed a kafir. He further added that once he was about to kill the kafir, he (the kafir) recited Kalima and he (the sahabi) killed him (the kafir) despite that as he (the kafir) was reciting the Kalima out of the fear of being killed. The holy prophet got angry and asked the sahabi repeatedly if he (the sahabi) had opened his heart (that of the kafir) to know as to why he (the kafir) recited Kalima and what would be his (that of the sahabi) answer to this on the day of judgement. Whom will you hold high in high esteem, 125 scholars or the holy prophet (pbuh).
@A brother in faith: I totally agree with you. They started with Ahmedis and have now started persecuting Shias. As the time passes they will start persecuting other sects of Islam in minority. Ulemas of all sects of Islam have issued edicts of other sects being Non Muslims/Kafirs. The pseudo Islamists want to enforce their own brand of Islam which is certainly not in line with the teachings of the Holy Quran and teachings/practice of the holy prophet (pbuh). It's time to raise your voice against these pseudo Islamists today instead of being a silent spectators, as if allowed, tomorrow it will be the turn of the spectators one after the other.
@Shams Zaman:
Not really. Normally you just need to be born in a country to be a citizen of that country. Don’t make up stuff to justify bigotry.
Thanks Ms Rabia Mehmood for courageous effort.
Rabia...you are brave and may God keep you safe from the ignorant majority. Amen
To be a citizen of a state one needs to fulfil certain conditions without which one can't become a citizen. Same applies to all the religions including Islam. If I go to a Christian or a Jewish state I would be regarded as an infidel because I don’t fulfil their religious criteria. So what is the big deal about it this is what which it is I would be a proud to be an infidel in Israel or Vatican. Same is the case with Ahmadis. Because they don’t fulfil the criteria of being called a Muslim they should accept being followers of any other religion other than Islam. The same logic was used by Ahmedis in the legal proceedings once they were asked that what they consider other Pakistanis who don’t regard Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani as the final Prophet. So the Ahmedi leaders said that we regard them infidels (or Kafirs). Bhutto who never wanted to term them infidels was left with no other option but to declare them as Kafirs as a consequence. So according to Muslims they are non-believers and according to Ahmedis the Muslims are non-believers or infidels. I don’t know what is the big deal about it?
However, intimidating them on religious basis and provoking hatred against them is indeed an unwelcome act according to Islam. They are just like another religious minority and should be treated as such.
Most of us already know about these issues being faced by ahmadis.Their social bycott is clear ,they are facing this from not less than three decades now even at social media hate massges being published.what i have observed is the more they try to create sympthy among people the more they face rampage.i think this documentry will create more problems for them ,the mullas ll say that Qadianis are spying on them. All the sects have drwan daggers against each other,there are more wall chalking of Kafir Kafir Shia Kafir than stickers against ahamdis,Youtube is full of fighting videos of Beralvi and Ah-lehdis and pages against debandis on facebooks.Extremism has spread in society like virus. I wish we could come up with documentry where sloutions are given.I know Ahamaids are facing more problems yet they can create sympthy in this stone hearted society.Please come out of this my god better than your god state of mind.Share sloutions share how can we normalise this society.
Why media keeps on showing only ''ruthless'' killing of Ahmadis. Why don't you guys dare to talk about Shia massacre. The report says as many as 200 Ahmadis were killed since 1984. Another report (which you are not familiar with) says as many as 600 Shias were massacred in Parachinar, Gilgit and Quetta in ONLY one month.
@Usama Javed: I very highly commend Rabia and Express Tribune to have produced and aired the documentary. I agree with Javed that we should discuss the issue. But the constitution of Pakistan does not allow Ahmedis to discuss or put across their point of view. Can any discussion take place in these circumstances? I ask all Muslims to follow the footsteps of Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) while dealing with Ahmedis. Did he abuse his opponents? Did he persecute his opponents? Did he boycott his opponents? Claiming to be die-hard followers of the great prophet (pbuh), I ask all to at least follow him and prove your love for him, whose honor you want to protect.
Adnan@ who gave you the right to call yourself a Muslim ? Let me give the answer that you claim to be a Muslim. Ahmadis claims to be Muslim too and they have every God given right to call them selves Muslim. Who are you to tell any one that they "MUST" stop calling them Muslim. Do you even know the meaning of the word "blasphemy". Consult the English dictionary Ahmadis are not blasphemous you people are who worship graves and give high status to ordinary humans which is only fit for Allah the almighty.
Excellent job Rabia Mehmood. Congratulations ET - youre my hope in this suffocating society. I pray that you may become the first drop of the rain that today Pakistan needs desperately.
Excellent and courageous - we must learn to respect the rights of others and follow the example of our beloved Prophet Mohammad (pbuh). Why do our religious parties promote hatred and violence; totally against the teachings of Islam. Is it political gain? without fear of ALLAH
great job Rabia ji..........i hope this will go on air and many persons can see this truth and change their mind...............
@Ammar: You can find out more about the true message of Ahmadiyyat at alislam.org . don't go by what clerics and ignorant people are saying, do your own research and come to the truth of Ahmadiyyat. May Allah always guide you.
It is a complete failure on both sides to sit with civility to discuss intellectually the differences*of doctrines.Ahmadis believe in the complete finality of the Prophthood. Period.Place of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is to be explained in terms of existing narratives in traditions. There exist no difference in the basic beliefs,
One thing is clear: We are the worst hatemongers on the face of earth. What should one make of a country where a murderer is celebrated? I am honestly disgusted and my heart goes to all who have suffered because of this heinous hate-crime.
@Atif Abdullah: The reality is just the opposite of what you said. Islam has been spread through swords in the subcontinent.
The Condemned is a very balanced documentary, and a need of time. Its the best material ever produced on Ahmadi persecution in Pakistan. Minorities in Pakistan are not well treated.
Lets stop this Ahmadi,, shia, sunni victimization propaganda.. why dont we simply say that Pakistani's are being killed in their own country... It says that 25 ahmadis had been expelled from their institutions. i wud say what's new in this... i am a sunni (majority),, i was beaten to a pulp and expelled from college when i applied for B.Sc studies in Karachi simply because my attire resembled to a certain political party while i wasnt even a part of that organization and had no intention to join them.. There have been thousands of target killings in Pakistan.. if u r living in pakistan then u are also a target of terrorism.. there were bomb blast in Ahmadi,, sunni, shia and barailvi mosques.. then why talk only about Ahmadis.. these political and cultural organizations have broken the unity of pakistan.. stop thinking about your cult and think about pakistan... cheap way to gain attention and popularity.. stop this contrariarism...
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad who claimed to be Imam Mahdi and Masih -e-Mohammadi did not claim to be a prophet with new Sharia .He claimed to be an Ummati prophet (follower of Prophet Muhammad ) as all other muslim sects believe that Jesus once he returns ( If he will ever) will be an ummati prophet.As Prophet Muhammad said,in the latter days Muslims will become like Jews ( In deeds and spiritually),so Imam Mahdi was given the title of Isa Bin Maryam. Remember according to Ahadith,Masih Nasri and Masih Muhammadi are two different persons ,but both are Ummati Prophets,Jesus was Ummati of Prophet Moses and Imam Mahdi will be Ummati of Prophet Muhammad. Get It ? Maulana Jala ud din Roomi says in Masnavi " Strive in the path of righteousness with service so you may be granted a Nabuwat within the Umma. Roomi was not an Ahmadi but held the same views on this issue as Ahmadis do.
Thanks Rabia Mehmood and Tribune.. Your work touched my heart espacially when a man spoke "No one wants to leave his home and country.." I started crying, becuase he was speaking words of my heart. You really did a grea Job..
I do not understand why are Ahmadi’s are being prosecuted in Pakistan. They are declared non Muslims that’s it . This does not mean that they cannot practice their faith or belief .Religion and faith is matter of individual choice and understanding. We Muslim should take word of Islam to Ahmadi’s if they accept it good for them, if not, let them bare the fruit of their faith before Allah on the Day of Judgment. Prosecuting Ahmadi’s is not correct and should be condemned by every Muslim and Pakitani. At the same time Ahamdi’s ,if they do not follow covenants of Islam should openly declare what their faith and belief is about. As Muslim we need to take a word of Islam to non Muslims but we do not have right to kill anyone. Faith of Islam can be best explained in words not through swords. Let our faith be with us and their (faith) be with them.
Atif
Well done Rabia!!! May Allah give courage to your other fellows to bring truth on front. Hats off.
Good Job and brave effort to expose truth and discriminality of Pakistan Constitution and administration.
How should we condemn these illicit of those inhuman? Sad,
My question from Ahmadis, do you take Mirza ghulam Ahmad a prophet?
@ Aadil Virgo To find out the real meanings of KHTAMENABUWAT Nabuwat just read verses 39,40,41 from chapter AHZAB in Quraan and check the meanings from tranlations printed in Egypt, Saudia ,or any other Muslim countries except RECENT translations in Pakistan There it will be the true meaning of KHATAMALNABIYEENBoth parties should think and the individuals should ask Q to themself " where the justice is not being excercised ????? Why God is so angry with us ???? Why the religious leaders are not successful to change the moral values of the Nation??? and many Qs likewise
@ All of you: Guys who is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad then?? that is the main issue of concern
Bravo! Excellent work.
Documentaries like Saving and the above do not make any difference to the lives of the affected but make their producers very famous earing appreciation for their socalled "brave act". Will these courageous ppl ever make any realistic efforts to make any difference????
Wonderful, Then why we are crying for Burma Muslims an for Palestine people. What we are doing and done here is right if some one did with us then this is wrong.Every one will get justice one day. Ahmadis are also Human, All this discrimination due to the dirty Politics of Pakistan.
What a irony that the Ahmedis were in the forefront of the demand for Pakistan !
Good job but unfortunately incomplete. I wish the maker of the documentary also could have met those Ahmadis who have faced no problems living with us. I know a couple of families but then we live in Karachi. The overall ratio of blasphemy cases (based on the news reports of 2011) is in Punjab, http://tribune.com.pk/story/223353/timeline-pakistan-blasphemy-law-cases-jan-july-2011/ which I assume is not only against both muslims and non-muslims. I personally believe that Ahmadis are non-muslims but then we do live with non-muslims, so yes they do have a right to live with us.
Excellent work Rabia Mehmood. You have done a great job at highlighting one of the most controversial issue in our country. You are very brave. Keep up the good work.
@Usama Javed:
I would love to know your opinion on what founder of Darulaloom Deoband thinks on that;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfde2WGvf3w
Like Ahmedis Hindu community in Sindh is also being discriminated. they are being kidnapped and killed, their daughters kidnapped and converted.So they are leaving Pakistan for India. Government has not come to their rescue because the culprit waderas, sardars and jagirdars who eye the properties of hindus are sitting in power corridors and many of them are ministers and advisers. Even CJP could not rescue Rinkel Kumari a Hindu girl and when she cried in court to go with her parents Chowdhry Iftikhar handed her to her kidnapper who forcibly married her after conversion.
Excellent answer! ,may God be with you@zff:
What if Christians start persecuting muslims for not believing in Jesus as the son God.
"In Allah do we put our trust. Our Lord! make us not a trial for those who practice oppression"
Exellent video Rabi now lets see how people will react
@samosa chai.. if you had the correct quran that all other Muslim sects have, you would have found tens of verses regarding the FINALITY of Muhammad's (pbuh) prophethood!
@the article- cheap stunt to seek popularity!
Yes Ahmedies are humans but the much be treated and dealt with how the false prophets and their followers were treated by Muhammad (pbuh) during his time and later by the caliphs. There should be no question about it!!!
@ML, You are interested to know what do I practice? I am muslim without the impurity of Shia or Sunni. and if you study Quran,you will find a verse saying that the Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the last prophet.I keep open my eyes,ears, and mind.The verse comes true for you. After death of Prophet Muhammad PBUH,few persons claimed to be prophets.But Hazrat Abu Bakar eliminated that fitna? how do you explain it?
God bless you Rabia for this effort.
I being from Jacobabad town of Sindh, have studied with a Qaadiyani friend from my childhood till Intermediate, his sisters were our seniors and we thought of them to be our sisters, his cousin was a junior and we thought of him as a brother, there was no time in all these years that we had felt any divide or discrimination towards our fellow Qaadiyani friends. We even visited their home and ate with them and invite him over for dinners and everything. But this doesn't really mean that Ahmedis or other minorities are not subjected to discrimination in our society.
P:S. Jcd being a small city is home to Muslims (all firkas) Qaadiyanis although they have migrated now, Sikhs, Christians and Hindus.
I have no words to express my pride as a Pakistani Journalist today because we have papers like Express Tribune , You guys have done a marvelous job and gave a thought provoking message to whole Nation , How many innocent lives we'll take more in the name of Mullah's interpreted Religion which is totally against teachings of true Islam . Though critics will point out some things in this documentary, technically that could have been censored but personally speaking i think Nation should know what they are doing with Ahmadis. Shias , Christians , Hindus and a lot of other "Humans" living in Pakistan , Only Mullahs control the State ... We should not cultivate hatred as hatred is like a subject in our schools,colleges and universities even parents teach false lessons to their children and they are part of preachers of hatred in society
The fact that documentaries like this are showing up in Pakistani media gives me hope about the future of Pakistan.
First, let me commend the producers of this film. They have spoken up. So few do. And they have urged that this wanton and cruel persecution of the Ahmadis must be confronted by all. No one can have the license to terrorize the Ahmadis. Unfortunately the state' own laws, section 298-B sanctions and encourages the prosecution and persecution of Ahmadis. This law has to be repealed. The Ahmadi issue is almost impossible to resolve. Perhaps a return to the 1974 constitutional amendment is the only available option. This made heterodox beliefs with respect to the finality of prophethood enough to expel one from the Muslim legal community. However, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto at the same time made strong speeches for the constitutional protection of minority rights. Perhaps the least worst option, let me repeat - the least worst option - there are no good ones, is that the Ahmadis are officially non-Muslims for public life but in private they can do and believe what they want. And they are protected by the full force of law, both constitutional and Muslim law and hence by majority Muslim and liberal opinion. That is, the Khatm e Nabuwaat and their allies should be satisfied with the constitutional amendment that declared them non-Muslims and accept the repeal of 298-B.
@Mohsin Sayeed: I agree with you on this. And i hope that some one makes a documentry on the barbaric behavior against The shia's as well.
as Pakistani citizen Qadyani's have all basic rights but these documantries cant change our thoughts and beliefs about Qadyani's.even if our law dont declare them non-muslim,but we as muslims strongly believe they are non muslims and they should live as peaceful citizens bt if Qadyani's follow the instructions given by those who want to destablize our country hen we must stop them with force.
Thank you so much for highlighting the persecution of Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan! .... We pray for your safety and for the courage you have showed!! ... Thank you! JazakAllah!! ... Religion should remain between Allah and His men, no man or law should ever come in between, coz then end up like Pakistan!
Who would've thought that the term "land of the 'pure'" would turn out to mean religious and ethnic cleansing?
**ALL Ethnic and Religious minorities of Pakistan from Gilgit to Gwadar should unite and promote values of tolerance and equality and stand up to their oppressors.
ALL PAKISTANIS with the moral guts to stand up to injustice and intolerance should campaign vehemently against these acts and organize to help out all affected Pakistani's at a grass root level, regardless of their ethnicity, religion, gender or economic status.**
Only then, we as a nation can progress and prosper. Let's take this country back from those who ride high on the backs the weak and the poor. Lets aim to create a harmonious, loving and caring nation that will be remembered in history as positive contributors to civilization.
A brilliantly done job. Kudos. However, as a viewer I feel I would have liked to hear a balanced opinion on what Islam actually says about the treatment of non-Muslims (Christians, Ahmedis, Jews, Hindus). This would have been instrumental in highlighting the fact that all the so-called 'religious' persecutions/propoganda are a gross and disgusting manipulation of power guised as law, in the name of religion.
@Tahir Hussain:
It’s OK for anyone to believe what they want. This is called freedom of beliefs.
All sects consider each other kafir anyway, you can search online for those fatwas by prominent maualanas of each sect.
What is problematic here is the killings and persecutions of Ahmadis by other sects. This is not acceptable and is against human rights.
What is so good about this doc. They must stop calling them self muslims. We can not allow blashemy in this country.
A million dollar question is who will air this? If not pakistani so called liberal media then try Aljazeera USA, BBC or even MTA.
All those who are supporting Ahmedis, please read Ahadees of our last Prophet (SAW) and then read the actions of Hazrat Abu Baker (RA) and Hazrat Umer (RA) agaisnt these so called messengers (KAZZAB). Ahmedies are totally non muslims. May Allah shows you right path.
@Tahir Hussain
Its about the treatment meted out to them, not about who is the real Muslim. Remove the bone from your head. It has taken a lot of space as it is clear from your comment.
@Junaid Atique:
This is probably the first documentary on Ahmadis. It’s not like there are several. Why don’t YOU make a documentary for Hindus instead of complaining about what others’ efforts? Put your money and efforts where your mouth is.
“ O Allah! We make You a shield against the enemy and we seek Your protection against their evil designs.”
@ Tahir Hussain
Sir, according to you if Islam and Ahmadiyya are two separate religions, and if you believe that the 'Islam' that you are following is the right one, then why don't have you faith in your religion? Why are you so insecure about your religion that you start to suppress voices that differ from your opinion. The truth shall prevail. So please don't worry what others believe and do. Let the people decide what do they want to follow and leave it to our Creator to judge who's on the right path. Surely He is the best Judge.
Masahallah!! Great Job. May Allah Bless you and all Ahmadiyes around the world. I will talk to my University authorities to on air this documentry on our local university news Channel. Jazak Allah for your Outstanding Work.
Let me put this in reverse order : 1. No non-muslim Westerners are killed why? because they are not a minority.. 2. Ahmedis should not be persecuted at all ... if you kill them how will you make DAWAT to them. 3. Last and final which should have been the first point : "Ahmedis are not muslims" Period. All there should be is that they have to stand in a different line but no one should be able to spread hate against them...
Ahmadi Got Doc because they got money. No Doc for Hindus by these so called liberals? Also no doc on Hundreds and thousands of people died in war on terror or affected by WOT?
Thank you @Rabail26 (Rabia Mehmood) Pakistan was founded because Muslims were not free to pass their lives according to the teachings of Islam. Now Pakistan takes away the rights of his own people. Shameful!
@athar mahmood watch the documentary dude. she mentions ZAB's crucial role in all this.
It is commendable for a journalist to take the risk of releasing this short doc on one of the most controversial issues in Pakistan. It is not just the plight of ahmadis, it is the plight of every minority, every faction that is seen as a threat by this so called 'Islam' prevalent in Pakistan. They've made Pakistan a country which is intolerant and irrationally violent.. where did the Prophet (PBUH) mention that people who talk against him be condemned to death? I doubt his grace (PBUH) is so easily afflicted by the insults of anyone. You call him the Chosen One, and yet insist that his presence is affected by mere words? and requires vengeance? and who gave 'muslims' this new found moral obligation, the Prophet never demanded it and since when was it decided that Allah will grant anyone jannah for murdering a defenseless person. stop convoluting the basic tenants of your religion and making muslims look like hedonistic monsters for the world to watch... your religion teaches compassion, mercy and respect for all. If being a 'muslim' in Pakistan means that one joins the ranks of these monsters, i'd rather stand on the other end and be a non-muslim any day.
Kudos for such a brave step. Being an Ahmadi i awaited for this documentary for a long time. At least someone from so called "unbiased and fair" media has tried to show the other angle of the issue. Ahmadis all around Pakistan are thankful to you. By the way have you applied for immigration or do you hold any other nationality than Pakistani, because now you would need it.
A brave work very well done. We need to highlight and understand that Islam teaches tolerance and respect for others' belief and faith. You will not find a single example from the life of Muhammad (MPBUH) that he taught or practiced hatred against any religion. Mullahs in Pakistan should practice Muhammad's teaching who taught love for all hatred for none. I don't understand what religion they follow and practice when they give fatwas to kill Ahmadis. Practice Muhammad's Islam! Only then we can make Pakistan liveable place otherwise Pakistan will cease to exist.
I cannot beleive so much brave journalist live in my motherland, a great salute to great work
Its good to see a documentary on plight of Ahmadis.... Similarly it would be appreciated if a documentary is made on How the Ahmadi movement started, the death of its founder and about the ongoing Ahmadi propaganda targeting the innocent Muslims.
Killing of anyone is wrong whether its an Ahmadi or a Muslim. If there has been an attack on Ahmadi worship places then there had also been dozen more brutal attacks on Muslim Masjids and Shrines. So its a national level problem of religious intolerance and people of every religion is a victim not Ahmadis only.
Ahmadis are non-Muslims, declared by 125 scholars of all Muslim countries in 1974. So if an Ahmadi impersonates to be a muslim then Law should be brought in action against them and this would not be persecution of Ahmadis.. Ahmadis want to gain sympathy by claiming to be most innocent people in the world which they are not... The creation of Ahmadi sect was a result of someones vested interests.. and to this day those interests provide oxygen to this movement which is based on Blasphemy of Holy Prophet (PBUH)
good work well done God bless u ,,,,,,
ahmadyyat zindabad
Shayan and muazammil should control themselves. after all this is is the holy month of ramzan. No, im not an ahmadi. I'm a pakistani, cleric approved sunni. But my religion preaches tolerance, it does not tell us to execute every non muslim who comes in our way. I agree the ahmadi belief does not concur with mainstream islam- the holy prophert (pbuh) dealt with people of many faiths with tolerance and love, he did not order them to be slaughtered just because they did not agree with them. And as for @Mr usama javed, thousands of muslims should realize in a world of 7 bllion people. 7 billion people with different faiths. I'm sure if our muslim ummah preached love, tolerance and the true spirit of islam, alot more people would convert annually. Everyone who does not agree with us cannot be executed.
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Salute to Mrs Rabia Mahmood certainly no one can do it what have she done. May Allah bless her and let her to show truth to all of the world, and remove the atmosphere of hatred from Pakistan.
Why so much hate for Ahmadis ? Watching the video reminds me the persecution of Muslims during the early years of Islam. I wonder it is true when Ahmadis says they are the true Muslims
Great job!!! If we had more brave people like you in this country, maybe we would be better off than we are right now.
I feel so much ashamed and worried by the action of Pakistani Government and the population. It seems that they have vowed to prove Islam as a religion of savages and racists, who show no mercy to other religions. Though the Prophet came to turn the savages into civilized people.
Today Islam is famous as a religion of the bad man. Wherever a Pakistani goes, everyone looks at him with suspicion, that he may be here to blast a bomb or to kill the innocent.
The author showed a great deal of courage and bravery to write about the plight of the Ahmadiyya sect in Pakistan, but i am worried about her safety now. Anything can happen to her in this unfortunate country. May God protect her.
Hats off to the team who produced this documentary.
Good Work Rabia Mehmood! May God bless you for highlighting the minority rights. Wish Express TV and Express News were also so daring like Express Tribune.
This is the Height of ignornce & The bitter reality of our ignorant nation aka our fellow pakistanies. shame on you "the real muslims the thaikaaydarz of Islam". Ahmadiyyat will prevail InshAllah.
A cheap way to gain popularity
State religion is a cancer and the only solution is complete and constitutional secularism.
It disillusions me as a Pakistani to see what this country has come to. But to see courageous people like you, being one of a kind, to report such incidents..I salute you and pray for you from the bottom of my heart. Allah is Almighty and the Most Just! He shall do justice with one and all.
@Ovais: so for you loss of human lives, cruelty, injustice committed against humanity has no value, significance to focus on? You grieve loss of millions but not human lives. You have just confirmed that you are a humanoid. And don't guess, you already have enough gas to make you stink to high heavens.
Heart breaking ~ but what about those who persecute? Do they have no heart, no fear of God?
good job.
Girl now I am afraid for you. No one has made a such a detailed documentary about the plight of Ahmadis as far as I know. May God be with you.
Congratulations for speaking up!
I salute the person who made this documentary, you are very courageous. No matter what some one religiously believes we were taught that in the end they are human beings and creation of Allah we cant hate them but people talked about killing them. I do not know what mullahs gain out of spreading hatred but I do know one thing if this goes on Pakistan will be destroyed.
Atheism is the answer to all Pakistan's problems!!
first of all, i salute Rabia Mehmood and ET for once again giving space to the plight of Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. As mentioned above, English media is daring to dedicate its pages for the oppressed but i wonder when will the popular Urdu media will bother to highlight these issues. The Urdu paper of the Express group continuously prints Anti-Ahmadiyya hateful propaganda just like Jang, Nawa e Waqt, etc. This tells us that the group owner is pleasing both liberal and rightist forces by his English and Urdu publications. Though i am very thankful to ET for producing this documentary, but still i can't resist saying that the target viewers of this documentary are liberal or at least educated class. I wish Mr Lakhani would allow it to be telecasted on Express News channel as well, which has a wider range of viewers, if he is honest in raising awareness against persecution. The 2nd amendment, the Ordinance XX and blasphemy law are a clear violation of human rights in pakistan. Without repealing such black laws we cannot hope for a better pakistan. Ahmadis are loyal and patriot citizens of this country and have equal right to live and demand equal human rights. God bless Pakistan.
so what about the so called liberal PPP? it gave the controversial constitution amendment of 1973, ahmadies were blessed by a high level persecution in its recent reign. over hundreds were blooded in a single year!!
obviously .. the media will always focus on this .. i guess a look in to curroption will also give ua better story
Bravo Rabia Mehmood! You have done a commendable job. Now let's see who has the guts to air it.