Two Pakistanis killed by NATO firing

Published: December 1, 2011
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Two Pakistani citizens were allegedly gunned down by NATO forces in the Bibijan area of Afghanistan, which borders the Chagai district of Pakistan. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

Two Pakistani citizens were allegedly gunned down by NATO forces in the Bibijan area of Afghanistan, which borders the Chagai district of Pakistan. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

QUETTA: Two Pakistani men were gunned down by Nato forces in the Bibi Jan area of Afghanistan’s Helmand province which shares a border with the Chagai district of Balochistan.

Balochistan Levies confirmed the incident saying that the two were shot dead in Helmand on Thursday morning while on their way to visit relatives in Afghanistan.  “The two men went to visit their relatives in the Brabcha area in Afghanistan from Chagai when Nato forces opened fire on them, killing both instantly,” relatives of the deceased told local journalists. According to a spokesperson of the Frontier Corps, the incident of firing took place inside Afghan territory.

The victims were identified as Abdullah and Mohammad Usman.

Published in The Express Tribune, December 2nd, 2011.

 

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  • Nasir
    Dec 1, 2011 - 1:59PM

    As the elections in US are coming closer, US (NATO) is trying provoke Pakistan with this kind of incidents to pave the way to open a war with Pakistan.

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  • Johny
    Dec 1, 2011 - 2:05PM

    It doesn’t seem to be a war on terror for me,it seems like Nato are on the picnic and hunting down whatever comes in their way.

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  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Dec 1, 2011 - 2:05PM

    America and NATO are doing their best to start a war inside Pakistan!!!

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  • Dec 1, 2011 - 2:21PM

    Vacating Shamsi Airbase wont solve this problem permanently . We have to kick off #US and #NATO not only from other bases like Shahbaz Airbase but from whole Pakistan and we cant fight with Made In US F16 with Made in US F35 . We have to work in every field . Each and every person of this nation should work like nation .

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  • DS
    Dec 1, 2011 - 2:23PM

    What a pity? These NATO forces have a clear policy of killing Pakistanis. What will the government do now? Issue another warning ?

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  • Abdullah
    Dec 1, 2011 - 2:39PM

    So they continue to do what they want. But this will only make even Afghans attack them now, so beware NATO.

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  • Su 30MKI
    Dec 1, 2011 - 2:56PM

    Just adding fuel to the fire…..

    America is becoming most hated country not just on their war policy, but even hated by Americans for printing dollars out of thin air..Poor economic governance, deregulated federal reserve, and the financial terrorist sitting in wall street, americans have so much to worry about domestic policy than to look at internatioanlly.

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  • You Said It
    Dec 1, 2011 - 3:11PM

    People from Chagai also travel to the other side of the border for collecting wood and to work as labour.

    Economy in Balochistan must be doing wonders for the local people if they have to go Afghanistan for work.

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  • A.Ahmed
    Dec 1, 2011 - 3:23PM

    This is way too much !!!!!! When are we going to ACTUALLY stand up against such attacks ??!! It’s about time !!!!! Our silence will only make them think we’re weak when we’re NOT !!!

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  • wounded Pakistani
    Dec 1, 2011 - 3:33PM

    these recent activities clearly show that the agenda was never to eradicate terrorism, its just about gaining personal motives. We have been used always, and now we wouldnt allow that anymore having seen the real faces of these sickheads.

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  • Usman
    Dec 1, 2011 - 3:36PM

    US NATO war crimes need to be stopped now…. Throw them out of region…

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  • Shirwani
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:06PM

    @Ashhar Lodhi:
    That is perhaps the best thing i have read in centuries. Work like a nation collectively.

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  • ammar
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:10PM

    pak force should kill people entering from afghanistan into pakistan.tit for tat

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  • CommonSense
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:19PM

    Wow who knew that close to elections the Obama administration would become even more hated than the Bush one. Good job NATO, for every innocent person you kill, you give birth to 10 more terrorists. I dunno what the hell NATO has been upto in the last 10 years. Not only are the Taliban coming back to power with a bang, but also Afghanistan is a top producer of opium and heroin (which was extremely low) 11 years ago. So first NATO turns afghanistan into a millitant and Drugs den. And now since that is not enough, these people will convert Pakistan into a model replica of Afghanistan.
    Thanks guys, thanks alot, even mullahs couldnt accomplish what you guys are accomplishing with your bufoonish bungling ways.

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  • Chilli
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:21PM

    Since Hiroshima, we all know how much US value human lives.

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  • zalim singh
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:26PM

    not easy being pakistanis, right fellows?

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  • Lofted Shot
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:28PM

    War is coming

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  • You Said It
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:34PM

    @Usman:
    US NATO war crimes need to be stopped now…. Throw them out of region…

    Yeah, right — who’ll do it and how? Pakistan with its “F-16s”?

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  • Hakeem
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:34PM

    so regrettable!Recommend

  • You Said It
    Dec 1, 2011 - 4:49PM

    @Su 30MKI:
    America is becoming most hated country not just on their war policy, but even hated by Americans for printing dollars out of thin air..Poor economic governance, deregulated federal reserve, and the financial terrorist sitting in wall street, americans have so much to worry about domestic policy than to look at internatioanlly.

    You seriously underestimate US capacity to balance its internal and external affairs. US had economic downturns in 1953 (Korean war), 1969 (Vietnam war), 1973 (Vietnam war), 1991 (1st Gulf war) — none of the downturns had any impact on US ability to conduct its wars. There are other ground realities where it has had mixed results in its wars — but not for economic factors nor due to domestic or external opposition to the war. Also, the economic demise of the US is greatly exaggerated.

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  • Uzair
    Dec 1, 2011 - 5:17PM

    Cheap STUNTS by US – Nato. Trying to provoke Pakistan and testing every nerve

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  • Karim Javed
    Dec 1, 2011 - 5:18PM

    Can’t Remember what happened to USSR now what you want Mr. USA :)

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  • Roflcopter
    Dec 1, 2011 - 5:19PM

    Now is there any doubt left NATO is an enemy?

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  • gunjan
    Dec 1, 2011 - 5:21PM

    @Chilli: Who doesn’t know how much Pakis value human lives?

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  • waseem
    Dec 1, 2011 - 5:41PM

    How shocking is this ! ! If these were the citizen of America and, were killed by Pakistanis, then America told them what is the value of an individual. However, these poor souls belong to Pakistan, so they were slaughtered like animals.

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  • Proud Christian
    Dec 1, 2011 - 5:48PM

    It shows the desperation of Americans to salvage whatever they can from a lost war

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  • Paul
    Dec 1, 2011 - 6:12PM

    Shoot at first sight!!

    Shoot first ask questions later.

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  • toor khan
    Dec 1, 2011 - 6:17PM

    shame on us shame on our leaders and generals! what a nuclear state? if we can’t defend our people than what we gonna do with our one million arm forces and nuclear weapons in all are we going to eat that???? shame shame shame…..

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  • Cautious
    Dec 1, 2011 - 6:40PM

    The USA doesn’t care whether the Taliban are citizens of Pakistan or Afghanistan — and why should they?

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  • Guddu
    Dec 1, 2011 - 6:52PM

    @You Said It: What F16s? They are maintained and have supplies from USA. Without it, there will be no PAF.

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  • Hedgefunder
    Dec 1, 2011 - 7:33PM

    Rest in peace!!! Sorry for this sad incident.

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  • humaira
    Dec 1, 2011 - 7:38PM

    .Attack on soldiers in FATA on 26th Nov and today’s incident shows Nato mood and intention very clearly but again we are observing lack of counter strategy from our side .why necessary precautions still not taken place in Pak AF border after big lose of lives which turned down moral of whole nation .on the other side it is not being discussed that why Nato done it, if it was planned attack ?Gen Allen was here in G.H.Q ,then why coordination and cooperation suspend in next few hours on both sides of border .Unfortunately we are not informed about actual story . our government should never compromise on Sovereignty of country but i think after 10 year of this so called war against terrorism both sides should revisit their policy .as neighbor we are concerned on situation of Afghanistan but What is our internal issue of peace and stability we should focus on it first .our trust and sympathies for Haqqani and other terrorist groups and strategic depth formula will burn us in near future. Why we are living in Fool’s Paradise.Both sides are lacking clear vision ,clear strategy.

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  • Musthaq Ahmed
    Dec 1, 2011 - 7:54PM

    @Ashhar Lodhi:
    Define the nation properly . The old two nation theory spells ruin. We are a nation as we are , all regions and all regions , in letter and spirit. Then we can stand in dignity against any enemy. Those who work against national unity in the name of religion are the true enemies of Pakistan.

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  • Tony C.
    Dec 1, 2011 - 8:02PM

    @You Said It:
    What does a country have to do for “You Said It” to consider it is in trouble economically? I could list meaningless statistics in dollar terms, but the U.S. deficit is so huge it cannot get back to surplus in our lifetime Unemployment is at record highs, as is bankruptcies, loan defaults, underfunded pension schemes, falling house prices, increased spending on wars that cannot be won, massive spending on the nightmares dreamt up by the industrial/military complex, and as of now there is no suggestion of any major financial, attitude change by the American powers-that-be. The only thing keeping America out of trouble, at the moment, is that because the dollar is a world currency the U.S. Reserve Bank can continue to print worthless paper money, but I do not know how long this can be maintained. I have mentioned just a few of the worrying U.S. economic problems, but they may help some people to understand the financial melt-down America, and indeed the world, may be facing if corrective measures are not implemented with some urgency. Although I do not wish to go through all the wars mentioned by “You Said it”, it is as well to remember that President Clinton had left the White House with a healthy economic surplus just prior to the President Bush (senior) inspired Gulf-War. The U.S. economy appears to have gone continually South since then.

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  • Su 30MKI
    Dec 1, 2011 - 8:37PM

    You said it ? well world is not the same as you see in 1970’s era.. today the US total debt stood at US $ 15 Trillion, where as its GDP is 14 Trillion.. And it just exploding and continue to grow further..

    what no one seeems to see is,this becomes never ending story for big belly american daddy who are just obsessed abt fiat currency…The scenario you mentioned in good old days, where there is no china, there is no European union ( which is also at brink of colllapse ), and most of europe are just recovering from ww 2…today the world has option..its not what you see in those days..

    Thats why Ron Paul today makes more sense of being next US President, than any one else from Democrats or GOP>..Will he make it ? thats a million dollar question..

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  • Freeman
    Dec 1, 2011 - 8:52PM

    @You Said It: Those old times was different than today. It seems you are still living in 1953, 1969 AND 73. Forget those old days Now other world is also becoming more rich as well as media is very fast now. Now American economy will never be the same again. They will never become no. 1 economically. China and other countries are better in financially. They have so much debt. Budget deficit is sky high. Even Switzerland Economy is better than America. Its Asian times. All businessess are moving to Asia.

    50 Million Americans have no Health insurance and they are living under poverty level.

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  • Freeman
    Dec 1, 2011 - 8:54PM

    @Cautious: This news is not about Taliban. You need to read first then comment. If you only have to leave negative comments then I can understand about your mentality.

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  • coolman
    Dec 1, 2011 - 9:05PM

    more than 4000 u.s troops killed in war on terror since war start

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  • Dec 1, 2011 - 9:50PM

    These are simply horrendous war crimes… where are the international tribunals and human rights councils now?Recommend

  • Amjad Akbar
    Dec 1, 2011 - 10:34PM

    These acts will force pakistanis to participate with talban and other anti american forces as they did against Russia.

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  • Tony C.
    Dec 1, 2011 - 10:45PM

    These so called “unfortunate incidents” just keep on happening don’t they? At one time I would have said that these things must come to an end, but it seems that the U.S./NATO and their flunkies, such as Australia, have placed themselves on a permanent war footing.

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  • rogue
    Dec 2, 2011 - 12:14AM

    well at least the americans didnt hold them hostage and cut their heads off like animals. it is a regrettable incident but lets not think you guys are any better, americans have more respect for life then you guys ever will. im not american and i know that.

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  • Soho
    Dec 2, 2011 - 12:18AM

    @Nasir:
    Very interesting theory. But very unlikely!

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  • Pakistani
    Dec 2, 2011 - 12:44AM

    @You Said It:
    Uhh He wasn’t talking about the ability of the US to conduct wars, Heck African militias can conduct wars and they have no financial standings. Point is the US needs to focus internally and not be the world policeman. The US is in financial trouble because of these wars and another conflict would bury it. Plus a conflict with Pakistan, Iran isn’t going to be a walk in the park like everyone assumes, they actually have men in Uniform unlike Afghanistan.

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  • Cautious
    Dec 2, 2011 - 2:04AM

    Of course they left out the part about the AK’s they were carrying.

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  • Big Thengaa
    Dec 2, 2011 - 2:25AM

    errr……where is JuD ? They just declared they will kill 100s of Americans and NATO for every Pakistani dead. Come on guys get to work you have 200 kills to go.

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  • HASSAN AHMED
    Dec 2, 2011 - 3:33AM

    @Lofted Shot:

    BRING IT ON

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  • ExPat
    Dec 2, 2011 - 5:09AM

    Unless we implement the rule of “An eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth” this will never stop!!!!!!!!!!

    Mr. Kayani wake up and get over the fear of and shame of surrendering in East Pakistan in 1971.

    Do don’t let the history repeat itself.

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  • MarkH
    Dec 2, 2011 - 5:17AM

    NATO is always killing Pakistanis. They’re the majority of the militants.

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  • Arthur
    Dec 2, 2011 - 6:35AM

    What a load of ill educated and thought out comments there are on this article… are you all stupid teenagers? Yes the world hates Pakistan, yes Americans are ALL evil, yes Britain wants to kill all pregnant women in the world…. believe what you like!

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  • Shyam
    Dec 2, 2011 - 11:52AM

    For all those Pakistanis who want a war with NATO…. Be Careful What You Wish For

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