Lal Masjid siege — four years on

Published: July 2, 2011
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The writer is a retired brigadier who has served in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Fata 
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The writer is a retired brigadier who has served in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Fata asad.munir@tribune.com.pk

The Lal Masjid siege began four years ago on this day. Here are a few facts about the mosque, which perhaps might not be in the public realm. In 1964, the Capital Development Authority (CDA) earmarked a plot for the construction of a jamia masjid, in Sector G-6, Islamabad. The CDA constructed the mosque which was painted red and, therefore, came to be commonly known as Lal Masjid. Maulana Muhammad Abdullah from Rajanpur, was the first Imam of the mosque. On the instructions of General Zia, the CDA constructed a quarter for the Imam and a muezzin and redesigned and renovated the mosque from 1981 -83. Over a period of time, the mosque administration encroached on 954 square yards (sqy) of CDA land. The latter served notices, for vacation of encroached land, but the Imam refused to oblige. During the Afghan jihad, Abdullah had become a powerful religious figure.

In 1988, Maulana Abdullah requested for allotment of a piece of land for the construction of a girls’ madrassa, for which the CDA allotted a plot. In 1994, the authority allotted additional land, making the madrassa plot 205.56sqy. Subsequently the madrassa’s name was changed to Jamia Hafsa. Maulana Abdullah was killed in 1998. His sons Maulana Abdul Aziz and Abdul Rasheed Ghazi took over the administration.

Adjacent to the madrassa, there were four plots, allotted by the CDA to a children’s library, a women’s library, an authors’ corner and a gymnasium. The children’s library was constructed while other plots and some CDA land was lying vacant. In March 2001, the management of Lal Masjid started construction on the women’s library plot. The enforcement staff of CDA tried to demolish the illegal construction. However, on assurance of the imam, that the management would demolish the illegal construction within one week, the staff abandoned its demolition plan. On the next visit of the enforcement staff, however, the Imam had gathered more than 100 Talibs, armed with battons, who attacked the staff. A request to register the case was made to SHO Aabpara Police Station and a demolition operation was planned on September 10, 2002. However this operation was postponed due to various reasons. Emboldened by the inactivity of the government, the management of the mosque, over the next four years, constructed a number of buildings, encroaching on 7,337sqy of CDA land. According to a CDA survey conducted in 2007, 194 mosques in Islamabad were legal while 60 were built on encroached land. However, even of the 194 legal mosques, 165 had encroached on CDA land.

In the meantime, the two brothers also developed links with jihadi elements and foreign militants. In 2004, Lal Masjid issued a fatwa that any Pakistani soldier killed in Fata did not deserve Muslim funeral prayers or burial in a Muslim graveyard. In 2004, Rasheed’s car, was allegedly used for terrorist activities in Islamabad. The administration wanted to arrest both the brothers but did not do so on the intervention of a minister.

In January 2007, the Islamabad administration identified five illegal mosques, constructed in green areas and on VIP routes. On the direction of the interior ministry, these were demolished. The management of Lal Masjid reacted and students of Jamia Hafsa occupied the adjacent children’s library. A few illegal acts of the mosque’s management, running of a parallel administration in the capital and failure of negotiations by various renowned ulemas, led to an army operation on July 3, 2007.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 3rd, 2011.

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  • faraz
    Jul 2, 2011 - 11:56PM

    Lal masjid signifies the weakness of our state. Clerics forcibly occupied Government property. They started enforcing their ideology on others, threatened people, established machine gun posts, abducted people including foreigners. Although our population is heavily pro-China, the abduction of Chinese nationals didn’t invoke dislike for the clerics. Even the comic sight of Molana escaping in a Burqa couldn’t discredit him. The operation resulted in over a hundred deaths including 10 army men, but Molana Burqa was honorably released by the courts and he emerged as a great holy warrior! Recommend

  • Jul 3, 2011 - 12:01AM

    Thankyou for putting forward quantifiable terms ..Recommend

  • Tashfain Amir
    Jul 3, 2011 - 12:20AM

    When Ghazi brothers refused to leave the mosques,our army used heavy weapons against kids and amatuers.However recently US dogs have refused to leave shamsi base,why then Army doesnt oeprate against these American marines who are the reason of 35,000 causalities in FATA due to drones.This shows where our generals sincerity lies. Recommend

  • Fawad Azam
    Jul 3, 2011 - 1:55AM

    @faraz very well said.
    @Tashfain “kids and amateurs” who fought with grenades, rocket launchers and automatic weapons? have some reality check before spurting out the venom against state and institutions.Recommend

  • Fahim Wazir
    Jul 3, 2011 - 1:55AM

    The electronic media sided with the brothers and exaggerated the casualties figures.102 people had died,11 from security forces embraced Shahadat,while 91 others were killed. The news about killing of hundreds of girls and children was false,as no parents have come forward to claim about their any missing children.Letters written by Zawahiri and other AL Qaeda leaders, to these brothers were recovered from the Madrassa.The religious people think that grabbing of state land for religious purposes is justified.Recommend

  • Fawad Azam
    Jul 3, 2011 - 1:58AM

    Well written article, some straight basic facts.
    “Holy warriors”, Molana Burqa, our “Courts” and most of all the people who still honour such rogues.Recommend

  • Sameer
    Jul 3, 2011 - 2:01AM

    @ Tashfain – please stop living in La La land. There have not been 35,000 casualties in FATA due to drones. Drones are killing terrorists. Only 6% of victims are civilians – mostly children and wives of terrorists.

    The Lal Masjid Siege was the last time Pakistan showed it had the guts to fight the terrorists head on. The drones do the work Pakistan’s military is too weak and too cowardly to do. Be thankful for it (though I doubt you will as you sound like an Imran Khan-style terrorist sympathizer).Recommend

  • Muzammil
    Jul 3, 2011 - 2:05AM

    @Tashfain Amir:
    The logic of your argument defies all reason. Consequently a logical discourse cannot be held in the face of such reasoning.Recommend

  • Shade
    Jul 3, 2011 - 2:21AM

    I don’t believe this. No lies here but such a convenient ‘selective’ truth can only come from a former army officer. I visit Islamabad every summer and still cannot forget the bombing taking place on the mosque in the summer of 07. From the high points of margallas one could see the explosions followed by the rubble coming due to heavy bombing on such a small piece of real estate in the heart of Islamabad. I still believe there were dozens other less horrendous ways to get the clerics out. I am a vehement critic of the role of maulvis in our state affairs but my heart wept when our brave ssg commandos aimlessly murdered hundreds of children. Children are children; innocent or not, yours or mine, rich or poor, pakhtuns or non pakhtuns. The very fauj which made these maulvis into a powerful clique in our state affairs had now turned around and wanted to send a message to the west…. These maulvis had outlived their purpose as the west turned against them during the terror war. No longer were they the strategic assets that our fauj so dearly cherished for so long. The brigadier doesn’t tell WHY the encroachments from Lal Masjid happened in the first place. Why couldn’t you or I do it even if vacant land was available next to our properties. he conveniently forgets that it was that great hypocrit, the father of our military establishment General Zia who orchestrated this alliance with the clergy and then let them vandalise the society as we saw in the red mosque. They became untouchables under the protection of their sponsors-the military. Why was it that the establishment came after the clerics only after they issued fatwa against the fauj is what the brigadier doesn’t explain. I can see retired army officers coming to rescue the shattered image of our fauj but at least have the character to tell the truth in full.. as it happened.
    Whats the point of this article? An analysis, a commentary, an opinion….seriously there’s nothing in here except that it seems like a crude piece of propaganda you’d expect from an ISI sleuth. Recommend

  • Riaz
    Jul 3, 2011 - 2:45AM

    And if you go by now to tell any cleric of these mosques about the demolishing they may through a fatwa and tell you that who being a Muslim one can oppose a construction of mosque on ” Allah’s Land”. Recommend

  • Libral
    Jul 3, 2011 - 2:50AM

    @Tashfain Amir:
    You write
    “American marines who are the reason of 35,000 causalities in FATA due to drones.”
    Correct your facts man, 35000 causalities is not a figure used for FATA but total Pakistani citizens casualties and those are not died from drones attacks but from TALIBANS attacks. There were total 1600-1700 causalities from drones attacks where 700 were most wanted terrorists. Recommend

  • M Ali Khan
    Jul 3, 2011 - 2:54AM

    @Tashfain Amir:
    you sure the amount of fully armed jihadis holed up inside Lal Masjid with AK-47s, grenades, and explosives that deliberately used young boys and women as human shields during the siege were ‘kids and amateurs’ as you put them to be??

    as far as Shamsi air base go…take a read here:
    http://pakistanmediawatch.com/2011/07/01/media-reporting-on-shamsi/Recommend

  • Madih Ali Ahmad
    Jul 3, 2011 - 3:40AM

    Tashfain Amir is spot on. Our government and army have always been employing double standards in their working. Ghazi brothers encroached on empty land and the children library. while american marines have been living in our base-something required for our own defense. even after PNS-Mehran tragedy we are succumbing to american pressure and have given them all rights to do what they want to do. Just visit F 6,7,8 in islamabad and see for yourself all their encroachments. why is CDA silent on this one. is it because the officials get disneyland trips and their children study in ivy leagues because they have been granted american visas in return to their prostrations in front of americans. Just pass in front of american embassy at shimla hill in lahore and see how many blockades are placed in front of the entrance. numerous policemen are on duty there. had the same number of policemen used for the nation’s security we would not have witnessed 35000 casualties.Recommend

  • Meekal Ahmed
    Jul 3, 2011 - 4:02AM

    Does anyone know what the position is now? Is this great mosque stock-piling weapons again? Recommend

  • Abdul Jabbar
    Jul 3, 2011 - 4:03AM

    @Amir.The number of people killed by drones is 1500,and 98% of these are those terrorists who have killed 35000 innocent Pakistanis.
    The clergy is a privileged class in this country and they can get away with any thing.In case woman from some NGO ,armed with batons,take out a procession,they would be beaten and arrested in the minimum possible time,but the Hafsa students were termed as “Qaum Ki Betian” and no action was taken against them.Illegal mosques, by encroaching on state land, are constructed by maulvis because they get free living quarters for their families within the premises.No one can pick up the courage to demolish these as no official wants to be labeled as Kafir and all governments want to avoid law and order situation created by religious people. Recommend

  • Jul 3, 2011 - 6:11AM

    Just goes to show that if you allow petty crimes to flourish they will eventually snowball into organized crime that will attack the legitimacy of the state. Using religious piety to blackmail the state to allow land grabbing is despicable and obviously illegal. Recommend

  • Omar Khan
    Jul 3, 2011 - 6:27AM

    SSG soldiers are the best pakistan army can offer, yet they had 11 casualties – the bombs that seemed to be going off in lal masjid was because doors and pathways were booby trapped with anti tank mines – if anyone has ever seen an anti-tank mine go off he will know how big an explosion it causes – the zarrar company of SSG which was used in this operation doesn’t use bombs, they use some types of explosives which are used to breach walls or doors, these are harmless to people two feet away from them. the blasts were caused by the terrorists inside the building and that’s why these brave men embraced shahadat. They were doing room to room clearance and upon clearing a room full of burka clad women and moving to the next ones, the terrorists hiding in burkas came out and shot them in the backs. That is how these terrorists used civilians as human shields. The sad thing is that the Pakistani nation is confused. They don’t know whats good for them. Torn between a clergy dominated version of religion and logic, they cannot decide if these religious entities are terrorists or men of god. Now there eyes are slowly opening.
    A very informative article which I think was very much required. The subject has been wrongly perceived by many people. If anyone is to disagree or to call it a propaganda or selective truth, let them bring proof or facts to counter what the writer has put forward in front of us. Empty words and conspiracy theories dont mean nothing Recommend

  • Khadim Husain
    Jul 3, 2011 - 6:36AM

    The peoples who lives at Islamabad have ever noticed that opposite to Mr. Books at Super Market, there was a public toilet, and there is big mosque, who occupied that place and whether anyone has changed master plan.
    Reasons of hue and cry against Lal Masjid is based on sectarianism, I can point out a long list who occupied which area, is prostitution is legal in Pakistan and large number of brothels at Islamabad are legal? Don’t talk about law in Pakistan, might is right.
    Muree Brewery is supplying tons of alcohol everyday, is it not against constitution of Pakistan. At Rawal Dam area Generals and politicians grabbed lands on the name of nurseries.
    Don’t spread venom of hate on the basis of sectarianism, or be ready to face like Iraq situation.Recommend

  • Nadeem Ahmed
    Jul 3, 2011 - 8:40AM

    By destroying terrorist hideout in Lal Masjid, army saved Pakistan from the clutches of Taliban. Long live commandos and great Musharaf.Recommend

  • Raj
    Jul 3, 2011 - 8:59AM

    This has happened in the recent history, imagine the history of Barbi Masjid in Ayyodhya…This article makes me believe that once upon a time Barbi Masjid was the birth place of Bhagwan Ram Chander JiRecommend

  • Junaid Iqbal
    Jul 3, 2011 - 9:02AM

    @ SHADE, your emotional speech is purposeless,lengthy,contradictory and non-coherent.
    I don’t believe this. No lies here but such a convenient ‘selective’ truth can only come from a former army officer,what do you mean by “SELECTIVE” which you don’t believe,be specific.

    Indicate one way, out of dozens you have mentioned, through which the issue could have been resolved?Negotiations were held by a number of delegations of ulema and politicians.

    “You do not know the meaning of “SELUTH” which BTW means DETECTIVE,do you think the writer is a detective?

    From where did you get the idea that author has denied that there was bombing?

    The Fatwa was issued in 2004 and the action was initiated in 2007,so you are wrong in assuming that this was the reason for the operation.

    The purpose of this article is explained in the first sentence,which you must read again.

    Rest of your emotional outburst has no relevance to the subject.

    Never attack the person, target the idea.Recommend

  • CH.Ejaz
    Jul 3, 2011 - 9:21AM

    @KHADIM HUSSAIN Secterian?Which two sects were involved in the fight?.Brelvi,Deobandi,Shia,Wahabi,Ahl e Hadith,Ahmadi,Pervezi,Chakralvi,Ismaili,Takfiri,Zikri,Panj Piri,Naqshbandi,Haqqani,Ahl e Sunnat,Jhangvi etc etc.,Please specify,You seem to be knowing the inside story.En-light us with your wisdom.Recommend

  • observer
    Jul 3, 2011 - 10:21AM

    @Asad Munir

    A. During the Afghan jihad, Abdullah had become a powerful religious figure.

    B. In the meantime, the two brothers also developed links with jihadi elements and foreign militants. In 2004,

    So the father started patronising ‘Afghan Jihadis’ in the 1980s and the sons took the good work forward. All this went on for 2 generations, right under the noses of the Sultans of Aabpara. And all you found worth writing about was the role of some Municipality officials of CDA?Recommend

  • I Hussain
    Jul 3, 2011 - 11:06AM

    I can’t understand what was wrong with Lal Masjid Operation. There were highly trained hard-core terrorists inside the mosque. The two brothers had established links with Taliban and Al-Qaeda. They harbored trained suicide bombers in the mosque. They illegally occupied state land. They established their own “kangroo” courts in the name of Shariat. (If individual persons are allowed to enforce their own versions of Shariat, Pakistan would become a sectarian battleground like Iraq Somalia and Yeman.) They abducted local and foriegners. They stocked the mosque with machine guns, grenades, rockets, anti-tank mines and other weaponry of sophisticated nature. They used innocent children as human shileld. They started propaganda campaign against the state and its institutions and threatened to topple the government. They are nominated as murderers in the case of the killing of ranger and police. They ordered occupation of a children library. Even in the presence of well-established evidence and charges against the Lal Masjid administration, no action so far has been taken against them and their supporters.

    Now tell me how could innocent children have killing 10 highly trained commandos who were specially trained to fight terrorists (the commandos from the Zarar company are special in the sense that they are trained in close-quarter anti-terror warfare)?

    Now the Mulla Burqa has been set free by our courts as if he were the most innocent and most pious man in Pakistan (it seems our courts have a soft-corner for worst terrorists.) There is no one who could now even touch the Burqa Mulla. He is being treated as some Sultan Salah-ud-din Ayubi.

    The problem with us is that we are Muslims first, then we are Pathans, Punjabis, Balochis and Sindhis and after that we may be Pakistanis. That’s why we are willing to sacrifice Pakistan at the altar of establishing some KhilafatRecommend

  • Truthbetold
    Jul 3, 2011 - 11:25AM

    @Shade:

    I totally agree with you. A long siege would have forced the Jamia Masjid residents to come out. The use of excessive force and the killing of hundreds of children and women at the Masjid could have been avoided. It was horrible to see so many children, women and innocent people butchered by the army. Granted some of them were extremists, but most were children and women.Recommend

  • Jul 3, 2011 - 11:34AM

    If the molvi has his way, he will even build a Masjid in my apartment and try to get away with it. This inaction by the then GOP is due to the inertness of our ex-president Parvez Musharraf, which is known to all.

    Respect for laws is lost on our ignorant and uneducated people and feudals. Who in return encourage “seige and seize” actions. The operation against the Lal Masjid was a ‘knee-jerk” reaction by the GOP or it was at the exhorting of the “super” President of Pakistan, the redoubtable USA.

    By the way who was the minister who persuaded Parvez Musharraf to postpone action???
    Please accept my Salams brigadier sahib.Recommend

  • CB Guy
    Jul 3, 2011 - 12:45PM

    @ Sameer: Please open your eyes and read proper figures. 90% of people killed in done strikes are termed as COLLATERAL. Civilians in the wrong place at the wrong time, or well, simply living in their homes.

    As for the operation, it was totally unjust. Arresting the brothers was a much easier option, Musharaf wanted to show his commando skills and he no doubt had a lust for blood. i do not agree with the actions of Lal Masjid administration but he fact that hose killed were all Pakistani citizens, tehy could have been tried in court and there were other ways available then killing everyone and using white phosphorous. By the way, the administration demanded closing of brothels under the guise of massage parlors which the government did any way later on. This event also helped increase militancy in Pakistan as true and fabricated tales from the Lal Masjid were the perfect platform to inspire people to do what was otherwise the unthinkable.

    Last but not least, a parallel government has been running in Karachi for decades now, infact, they get to be a part of the government while they run a parallel administration, i do not see any action there. why is that? Recommend

  • Abu Muhammad
    Jul 3, 2011 - 1:19PM

    Final facts are hidden, when Presidency did accept the Agreement which was done between the government and Abul Aziz and Ghai, It should be mentioned here real facts of last moments. We cannot balme only Lal Masjid Administration. Government and Army were also responsible for whole event. Recommend

  • nasir
    Jul 3, 2011 - 1:22PM

    @faraz:
    @Tashfain Amir:
    when a incompetent person rule the country this will happen again and again 1 how many student were there 2 if a ruler cant handle a situation like this how can he be capable of handling pakistan affairs 3 Is land is more value able then lives 4 don’t you think that they can handle this issue quite easy by blocking every necessities for four or five days Recommend

  • patriotic
    Jul 3, 2011 - 4:13PM

    musharraf governance was a class apart!.. now we have idiots who are too scared to take action even after their own ministers deaths!… taseer..bhatti..Recommend

  • Malik
    Jul 3, 2011 - 4:23PM

    very nice article Asad bhai…… keep on reveal the truth…..Recommend

  • Ben
    Jul 3, 2011 - 5:00PM

    Much before the operation, the militants had established gun positions on the roof tops. I am a witnessed to it. The mosque was no longer a place of worship, it was a den of criminals. It should have been blown up.Recommend

  • Ishrat Salim
    Jul 3, 2011 - 5:26PM

    The seige by the authority was for the past 6 months & everyone then ( all the politicians etc; ) were forcing the govt to act but the govt of the day restrained itself because of continued negotiations ( even the Immam of Masjid Nabwi Madina & Makkah personally requested them to come out )including Edhi; Ansar Burney & many such personalities but Lal Masjid Molanas were adamant because of our media`s negative projection which emboldened these Molanas to continue sit-in.The action was a last resort & prior to which the Molanas were ordered to release Women & Children but these women & children were used as human shield…thus they were caught in crosss-fire….after the action the same people who were advocating action by the govt…started to politicise the actions & issues…this is the kind of politicians we hv….Ch Shujat & Moulana Fazl ( JUI ) were 2 of the members of the May 2,2011 parliamentry commission who proposed formation of Judicial commission….when it was formed….they are now making 360 degree turn…?? that it is not necessary / against national security etc;…so what can we expect from the present lot…??Recommend

  • Safir afkhan.
    Jul 3, 2011 - 7:50PM

    @ Raj puter once upon a time india was a muslim empire too.Recommend

  • Safir afkhan.
    Jul 3, 2011 - 7:57PM

    @TO the writer if those masjids are illeqaly build then what is leqalaty of murabays means
    acres of land gavin to retired army officers in punjab and sindh provice abd on other hand
    poor farmers and haris of native land living so poor for so long.Recommend

  • Sarim
    Jul 3, 2011 - 8:06PM

    Folks-having read the article or better a factsheet I am bound to register my comments knowing fully well I may not be aligned to majority’s viewpoint. But then majority needs to be corrected if deviating from actual truth. The subject is emotionally sensitive and hence I for one can see the emotional outburst of some commentators. I also do not see the point behind this piece. Is the author trying to tell us that the action was justified beause there were terrorists locked inside the mosque? In this case he has to prove that terrorists were actually found after the operaion and presented to independent media-dead or alive. I do not remember this happening. The government was naming a couple of Arab militants before the operation started but then there was no mention of anyone after the demolistin of the mosque. I for one have personally met dozens of parents right after the operation locating their children who were nowhere to be found. Whether or not there were terrorists inside the mosque who had created a state within a state is meaningless unless the author tells us WHY and HOW things got to this point. Why didn’t it happen with some other organised group like lawyers, or journalists, or teachers, etc that state property was encroached upon and the writ of the state was challenged. The writer conveniently forgets the role of his own organisation, i,.e. the military and the ISI having patronised such madrassas, mosques, molvis for providing endless number of recruits for state sponsored operations in Afghanistan, Kashmir and beyond. This is the only explanation behind the making of a frankestein in the form of Red Mosque of 2007. I do mean to criticise the author as someone may get offended but I do need to point out that the article seems to be an agenda serving piece and a clear attempt to serve the very institutions responsible for creating this mess.
    The most important point of all to remember post facto is to measure the impact of this tragedy on our lives. Just count the number of suicide bombings before and after June 2007-even one with basic arithmatic skills will tell the difference. The brutality and lack of sophistication exercised in conducting this whole operation is self evident. One could have stopped the provisions into the mosque from the outside; supply lines for electricity, gas, water could have cut, the place could have been gassed, etc, etc. It all leads us to believe that our so called professional army is not so professional when dealing with its own people. Perhaps half the sophistication and immaculate planning employed behind getting Raymond Davis released by our guardians and saviours could have delivered the works and minimised the loss of children. Brig sahib and his ilk can resort to giving selective facts but I firmly believe the story is going to be well told by historians to come. That reminds me the story of ojhri camp will also come to surface when Brig sahib’s organisation rained rockets on the residents on the twin cities on that fateful April day of 1988. I do not buy this self serving piece of crude propganda. . Recommend

  • Bijli Gar Maulana
    Jul 3, 2011 - 8:15PM

    The government should demolish all illegal mosques.Maulvis should be pushed back to the role they are suppose to perform,only religious rituals.The text books should be revised to take out all lies taught to our kids.Nazria Pakistan, invented by Nawabzada Sher Ali, should be done away with.Pakistan should be declared as a secular State as per Quaid’s speech of 11 August 1947.We should develop friendly relations with India and Afghanistan.These are the steps to make Pakistan a viable state.Do not depend on individuals leader to change your plight.Imran Khan is good at criticism,but he is not suitably educated in states craft and politics,he is not likely to win more than 2 seats in the next elections.We should not be obsessed with religion if we really want to prosper.The truth about these munafiqs should be exposed as done in this article.Recommend

  • Javed Khan
    Jul 3, 2011 - 11:16PM

    @Sarim. The terrorists were the two brothers,who wanted to run a parallel administration in the Capitol of the country.But the piece is not about this subject but about the land grabbing by the Administration of Mosque in the name of the religion.You have to go again through the article,because you have not been able to understand the substance.He has nowhere discussed the operation, nowhere mentioned about the presence of foreign militants,you are assuming things which are not part of the piece.Due to your lack of comprehension you are assuming things.The writer has not suggested anywhere that the operation was conducted because of encroachment.He has just narrated some facts, which in his opinion, may not be known to people.For me it was very informative article,and i am sure you were not aware about the history of Lal Masjid,but you are more focused on the operation and has got involved in the role of agencies which has no relevance to the topic of the article. Recommend

  • Cyber Khan
    Jul 4, 2011 - 12:58AM

    I feel sorry for the people who still think Molana Burqah is a hero! In name of religion and faith, people would just follow anything that has some script of the same on their covers, even if they are hardcore militants, anti-states and law-breaker mongrels like the Mullah brothers at Lal Masjid. The action there was totally justified and should have bee more stern. Alas, for the SC of Pakistan, the main character (aka Mullah Burqah) is still free after being responsible for killing of his clan plus some great soldiers’ martyrdom.Recommend

  • Sameer
    Jul 4, 2011 - 4:44AM

    @ CB guy – I have been reading the facts. You are just making stuff up. You are wrong. Get your facts right before anyone reads your comment. You have no credibility and are delusional. People like you hurt Pakistan’s credibility and image in the world by showing how misinformed you are. The drone strikes kill terrorists.

    Mushurraf did a lot of things wrong but getting rid of the fanatics at Lal Masjid was not one of them.Recommend

  • Raj
    Jul 4, 2011 - 6:56AM

    @ Safir afkhan Chacha ji before Muslim empire, India’s main religions were Hinduism, Bhuddhism, and Jainism. If whole of India had embraced Islam, Indian Muslims would have been very proud of their previous religions and history just like Egypt and blabbed that those previous religions were inferior to Islam and that is why whole India embraced Islam. Now the paradox is that all Indians did not convert to Islam, and sub continent’s Muslims cannot claim that Islam is the superior most religion of the sub continent.Recommend

  • Azam Qureshi
    Jul 4, 2011 - 1:15PM

    Agencies / establishment / governments creat “Jins” let them out of the bottle to counter an earlier jin this is how we have so many different ethnic / relegious / political groups. The only problem once u let out a jin it never return back in the bottle. Recommend

  • Proud Pashtun
    Jul 4, 2011 - 4:07PM

    Mullah Omer is the only Amir Ul Mominin, in the Muslim history who fled the battle on a motor bike,once the first Daisy Cutter was fired by the US Bomber.He is still in hiding,if he was a Pashtun he would have fought and preferred an honorable death.Mulana Aziz tried to flee the battle in Burqa.He does not feel any remorse or insult and the apologists terms these cowardly acts as battle tactics.The Hippocratic behavior of these people should be exposed without any fear.They should be taken head on.I am positive that no 1 knew about the details of land grabbing, by these so called mullas, explained in this article.Recommend

  • CB Guy
    Jul 4, 2011 - 5:15PM

    @ Sameer: Here is one of the links http://www.ibitians.com/2011/01/21/usa-drone-attacks-suicide-bombings-pakistan/ .

    Three are many reports, one which suggested that 80 students in a seminary were all terrorists. So yeah, in that case, families can blown away and you simply mark terrorist and collateral will be zero percent.

    And i would maintain that what Lal Masjid Admin did was unlawful and punishable but the killings were extra judicial and Musharaf is responsible. If Lal Masjid was just, then every last land mafia member should be killed, coz they too are controlling land of others including the government or obliterate every last person who commits a crime, since they all are committing crimes against the state. Recommend

  • Ajmal Bangash
    Jul 4, 2011 - 6:47PM

    Asad Munir Sahib,we all Pashtuns are proud of you.Your article”Our One Sided View Of Drones”truly reflected the feelings of Pashtoons,who are facing these strikes ,but want these to be continued to kill foreign militants and Taliban,who have destroyed the Pashtun culture. Imran Khan and his Punjabi supporters know nothing about Pashtun Culture.No one is more religious than we Pashtuns but we want to get rid of religious extremism.Since Punjabis are not in the war zone,they want to show their so called Ghairat.We love Bhutto,Ghaffar Khan,Achakzai,Mengal,Marri,G M Syed and want US to stay here to uproot these religious miscreants, but the Punjabi establishment want to impose JI,Imran Khan and Sharif on us.We love Pakistan more than anyone.Recommend

  • Safir afkhan.
    Jul 4, 2011 - 7:18PM

    @ oh raj puter mughals didnot force there reliegen they were very libral peoples even when
    akber reach the plase in u.p near ganga river and saw hindus worshiping he said allahabad
    land of god and sultan tipu build it mandirs for hindus even he learn the sinskrit old lang of
    india priest peoples and even name hindu was given by muslims its an arabic word other
    wise hinduism is not a reliegen its a man made theories like all other ism in the wolrd like
    sikhism, budhism, inemism all are man made isam.Recommend

  • Bilafond
    Jul 4, 2011 - 10:51PM

    GAS MASKS inside the MADRASSAH and MOSQUE can any one explain this. IF YOU WATCHED TV you could see them wearing them. They deserved and they got it. Well done Army.Recommend

  • Malay
    Jul 5, 2011 - 5:01AM

    Great insight into an iconic event.Recommend

  • meena gabeena
    Jul 5, 2011 - 10:32AM

    Ajmal Bangash…i totally agree with you…your comment has brought out my pushtoonwalaay :)
    Asad Munir keep it up.Recommend

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