Defence cooperation: Pakistan to buy eight submarines from China

Published: July 24, 2015
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A Type 039A submarine in service with China’s navy. The submarines Pakistan will be procuring from China are believed to be of the S20 type, a scaled down export version of the Type 039A. PHOTO: FILE

A Type 039A submarine in service with China’s navy. The submarines Pakistan will be procuring from China are believed to be of the S20 type, a scaled down export version of the Type 039A. PHOTO: FILE

ISLAMABAD: 

Pakistan and China on Thursday agreed to a multi-billion dollar deal that would see Beijing provide eight submarines to the Pakistan Navy, in an agreement that analysts are calling the largest-ever defence deal China has agreed to with any country.

Despite the magnitude of the deal, government officials did not provide any details, even declining to confirm the size of the transaction. However, the composition of the Chinese delegation with which the agreement was reached suggests that the arrangements have been struck for purchase of eight submarines.

“Pakistan and China have reached an understanding on matters of defence cooperation relating to Pakistan Navy,” announced the finance ministry after a meeting with Chinese authorities. “Financial arrangements to this effect were also concluded.”

Read: PM approves deal to buy eight Chinese submarines

According to a briefing that the defence ministry gave to parliament in April this year, Pakistan was negotiating a deal for acquisition of submarines from China. In the same month, the UK-based Financial Times, citing a retired senior official, claimed in a report that the contract could be worth $4 billion to $5 billion, the largest defence deal ever by China.

Sources in the finance ministry said that Pakistan would make down payments to China in four installments and the delivery of the submarines will be made in the coming years.

The financial arrangements were agreed during a meeting between Finance Minister Ishaq Dar and Xu Ziqin, President of the Chinese state-owned China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Company Limited (CSOC).

Finance Secretary Waqar Masood and Economic Affairs Secretary Saleem Sethi assisted Dar. Chinese Ambassador Sun Weidong also participated in the negotiations.

CSOC is the trade arm of China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC) and its main business is the manufacture, repair, lease, and sales of military ships and submarines.

Sources in the finance ministry said that the agreement is still subject to final review form higher authorities in Beijing, following which a formal agreement will be signed. The press release issued by the ministry after the event was vague. According to the release, Dar said that the visit by the CSOC delegation to Pakistan would enhance and further strengthen their bilateral economic and defence cooperation.

Read: Pakistan’s underwater force stronger than India: Report

The release quoted Xu thanking Dar for his contribution in concluding the arrangements, saying it was reflective of the deep rooted China-Pakistan friendship.

Last month, both the countries had also signed an agreement for construction of six patrol vessels for the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA).  The agreement had been signed by China Ship Trading Company (CSTC) and the Pakistani defence production ministry. According to the agreement, four ships will be constructed in China while the remaining two will be built at Karachi’s Shipyard under a transfer of technology agreement.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 24th, 2015.

Reader Comments (70)

  • Shuaib
    Jul 24, 2015 - 8:55AM

    How about investing in our country first.Recommend

  • jay
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:23AM

    such deal with china, that too by pakistan will be fishy and backfiring. congrats pakistanisRecommend

  • Jul 24, 2015 - 9:26AM

    Criminal waste. Pakistan already has technology to build Agosta-class submarines, with
    even AIP as per some reports.One Indian expert rued that Pak has acquired this technology.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agosta-class_submarine

    China finds market for its subs and may even may gain (French)
    technology from Pakistan.

    Why go for the unproven Chinese sub when you have superior western expertise at hand ?

    May be the politicians and officials wont forego their millions.Recommend

  • Virkaul
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:30AM

    Secret deal? Another loan or cash down payment?Recommend

  • Raj - USA
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:32AM

    Pakistan will not be paying even a penny for these submarines. China will pretend to have delivered it to Pakistan and keep total control of it in the pretext of training Pakistani’s navy or some other pretext. In fact China will have full control of the se submarines. By doing this way (pretending to be selling the submarines to Pakistan) China is trying to avoid objections from US, India and others to China stationing its naval fleet in Gwadar. At one time Pakistan used Afghanistan as its strategic depth. Now China is using Pakistan as its strategic depth. Recommend

  • salman
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:35AM

    I wish some day India and Pak sit down peacefully and come out of this race. Trust me there are more bigger issues than this, and one this is for sure, There is not end to this !Recommend

  • ABC
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:43AM

    Means more burning time for IndiansRecommend

  • Maqbool Bhat
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:49AM

    Pathetic, We are starving , the country is reduced to begging still this nonsense continues.Recommend

  • GKA
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:58AM

    Even India, with an economy 8 times larger and a forex reserve base 20 times larger, will think twice about a US$ 5 bln naval investment and take years to go for it. Not sure if this will strengthening Pakistan (by giving it armed strength) or weakening it (by creating a a debt liability of 2500 rupees per capita for future generations to service). Recommend

  • Prakash
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:06AM

    5 billion dollars can buy 5000 megawatts of power plants – enough to supply uninterrupted power to 5 million homes, which would be more than 10% of Pakistan’s population.
    Just trying to put the cost of arms-race in perspective. Recommend

  • SGJ007
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:11AM

    Pakistan should buy maximum weapons from China. Pakistan should be the largest overseas military hardware market for China. PAK CHINA FRIENDSHIP ZINDABAAD !! Recommend

  • tmm
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:13AM

    What!……people do not have food, access to clean water, no law and order, no jobs. And we plan to spend $5B on this junk. I think people need to wake up from their slumber and protest against any such efforts that does not meet the merit. We do not need military hardware of any sort, instead all funds should be directed to creating jobs and public welfare projects. Enough is enough.Recommend

  • Love
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:22AM

    Woww.. What great deal between Pakistan & China…. Long Live Both Country always…… salute to Both countries……Recommend

  • Joe
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:28AM

    @Wiser:
    The country which does not a have a single engineering export has this technology. Please look at the facts.Recommend

  • Dan
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:41AM

    The plan seems to be working,engaging Pakistan in an arms race when their economy is struggling to even post a growth of 4%. India is also not a rich country, but, it can afford to spend billions in defense sector, given its large economy which is poised to take over China’s, posting a healthy 7.5% growth rate. If Pakistan continues with these sort of defense deals, it will bleed dry its economy and will face the same fate like the Soviets. Recommend

  • polioman
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:48AM

    What about Polio ?

    For everything we use begging bowl – but for military we use hard cash

    Chinese will suck out everything from Pakistan before they live .. These people invent Chilli Chicken – mind it.Recommend

  • Juggernaut
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:52AM

    Please understand chinese economy is going down..their manufacturing costs are increasing and almost at par with western countries, hence there is problem with their export. Their foreign reserve and export income is reduced quite significantly.

    Hence they are forcing this deal on pakistan to get much needed counter to their declining export. Only pakistan is buying substandard chinese military equipment on large scale. Its upto pakistan to understand what they want to do.Recommend

  • Juggernaut
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:55AM

    @ Dan completely agreeRecommend

  • pak47
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:56AM

    Well done Ishaq Dar. Hope you arrange more money for Navy as it got weaker in the last many decades due to Army taking away most of the budget.Recommend

  • Parvez
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:59AM

    If one thinks about rationally we could do away with the Navy……all we really need is a Coast Guard…….but then that’s wishful thinking.Recommend

  • Liberal
    Jul 24, 2015 - 11:04AM

    This is going to be another point of concern for India as India is making nuclear powered submarines and it does want Pakistan to gain the military edge in naval warfare. Long libe Pakistan-China friendship.Recommend

  • Nav
    Jul 24, 2015 - 11:33AM

    @SGJ007: – I agree. Along with initial $5 Billion money paid to China to support it’s manufacturing sector, this will support Chinese arms industry for next 25-30 years, as servicing, retrofit, components and parts will provide constant money supply for Chinese economy and will create long term jobs in China… This will help small and medium scale Chinese companies which deal with parts and components too.. PAK CHINA FRIENDSHIP ZINDABAAD !!Recommend

  • ajay
    Jul 24, 2015 - 11:42AM

    Chinese maal,People know is is a fact.
    break downs & continuous maintenance.

    buy german,french,russian or US.

    wrest is junk.
    In my view pakistan Army id been decieved by the pakistani politicains by forming finacial lobbies.Recommend

  • Fuad
    Jul 24, 2015 - 11:47AM

    Another wise move by the Chinese to secure the waters around Gawader. The oil and gas supply lines carrying gas to china will be guarded by this transaction. Fair move by China, as long as we negotiate a good payback in return (least likely though).Recommend

  • turbo
    Jul 24, 2015 - 12:26PM

    i have tears in my eyes to see indians so worried for PakistanRecommend

  • ismail
    Jul 24, 2015 - 12:35PM

    well, its a great game changer project, Now india needs to settle down all outstanding disputes with pakistan before its too late for india. long live Pakistan,long live china . The friendship of all weathers.Recommend

  • observer
    Jul 24, 2015 - 12:40PM

    @Raj – USA:

    Very astute observations and reasoning. You are dead right. As you said it, this is a ruse to let China part its submarines in Pakistan while claiming them to be the subs that Pakistan bought from China. Pakistan is dead broke and just doesn’t have $5B to spend on submarines.Recommend

  • Maxx.
    Jul 24, 2015 - 12:57PM

    @Dan:
    India poised to take over China?? You are living in stone age. China economy is five times that of India, at 10 trillion USD, compared to India at 2 trillion USD. Look at the China land mass it is about 3 times the size of India. India is just 35% the size of China in land area. Recommend

  • Maxx.
    Jul 24, 2015 - 12:59PM

    @ajay:
    China makes different type of products when it comes to quality, it sells A quality products to USA and Europe at premium prices. Sells B and C quality products to Pakistan and India. It goes even higher and lower depending on the client and the price it gets. Recommend

  • zorkor
    Jul 24, 2015 - 1:01PM

    Excellent deal between Pakistan and China. This will enable Pakistan to secure its naval resources and will enable it to destroy any naval blockade attempt by the Indians.

    You can feel the jealousy and fear from our enemies judging by the number of negative responses here. :)

    Well done Pakistan and China.Recommend

  • Maxx.
    Jul 24, 2015 - 1:06PM

    @Joe:
    From where did you get this conclusion…Indians pretend to know more about Pakistan than the people living here. PAC is exporting trainer aircraft Mashaq and Karakorum I and II to many developing and African countries, including Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar etc,
    Check out PAC Kamra with Google search. Recommend

  • Marium
    Jul 24, 2015 - 1:31PM

    The bond which exists between China and Pakistan is a real fact which is getting more and stronger with every passing day. At present, buying submarines from China would enhance Pakistani credentials on waters. The defence cooperation between China and Pakistan would be instrumental to counter the emerging and existing threats in the region. Pakistan has to maintain a credible defence posture as it is adjacent to a very hostile neighborhood.This is the inherent right of every sovereign state to go for its territorial integrity and political sovereignty. Recommend

  • vicktor d'souza
    Jul 24, 2015 - 2:08PM

    If we are gonna acquire some subs, at the expense of more important development issues, at least the navy should go for subs with ballistic missile launch capabilities instead these run of the mill ‘small arms fire’ chuggers. We need subs that can patrol and be parked around the southern coastlines of India to lob a few ‘fat boys’ to augment our land based first strike capability. Also India’s high-tech and IT centers would be within easy reach.Recommend

  • Afzal
    Jul 24, 2015 - 2:22PM

    @Virkaul:
    It would be ok in hard cash as long as we are spending on something which will assist in knocking Indian butts.Recommend

  • Joe
    Jul 24, 2015 - 2:34PM

    @Maxx.:
    That’s my point. How PAC is exporting since it is joint production with the other partner being the dominant one. If Pakistan is that capable in aviation technology it’s other exports should also be of engineering nature and there are none it’s a fact.Recommend

  • Saqib aLI
    Jul 24, 2015 - 2:41PM

    It is a good deal. For all those complaining about better use of the funds – They should know that Pakistan Navy is the weakest link in our national defence and Pakistan Armed Forces have actually gone for a “cheaper” submarine in order to minimize the financial burden. In addition, the financing agreement with China will be very “friendly”.

    Yes the funds could have been used for power, hospitals and so on but the fact is that we have a neighbor who is acting increasingly aggressive and is on a military hardware buying spree. With the current three Agosta and 2 rapidly aging Daphene class submarines, the navy cannot protect Pakistan against any naval blockade if India should decide to do so.

    So stop the moaning.Recommend

  • Usman
    Jul 24, 2015 - 2:59PM

    To the multitude of commentators burning at the deal, it’s with China, which means delayed payments (good for Pakistan), technology transfer and local manufacture at the least. This isn’t like an Indian defence deal, where they buy ‘off the shelf’ and use ‘off the shelf’ as well. All of Pakistan’s previous defence deals, except for the F-16s have been technology transfers. This is no different, as hard as it may be for India to swallow.Recommend

  • Usman
    Jul 24, 2015 - 3:00PM

    One Nuclear Triad coming up, fresh of the grill :) Along with a long overdue correction of military balance in South Asia.Recommend

  • Maqbool Bhat
    Jul 24, 2015 - 3:22PM

    5 Billion of 46 Billion already gone.Recommend

  • Dodo
    Jul 24, 2015 - 3:25PM

    This is a great deal for Pakistan. Generally subs go beyond 1bn. Now Pakistan can drop nuclear bomb through air, land and water. China the only true friend of Pakistan. Recommend

  • Milind
    Jul 24, 2015 - 3:25PM

    @Usman – “To the multitude of commentators burning at the deal, it’s with China, which means delayed payments (good for Pakistan)”

    I understand your country survives on delayed payments… but China is no USA to waive it off. They’ll be back to demand their pound of flesh..Recommend

  • zorkor
    Jul 24, 2015 - 3:29PM

    @Maxx
    I agree with your sentiments on submarines but the Indians are right about the size of Indian economy. We are getting smaller and smaller in comparison to them each year because of our anemic growth. It is smaller than Chinese but China is stalling. Only 30 years ago India and China had same size economy. Also India has much more fertile land than China whose land is lot of desert.Recommend

  • Dan
    Jul 24, 2015 - 3:48PM

    @Maxx.:
    I said that India is poised to cross China’s economy and not that it has crossed. China’s growth rate is decreasing when compared to India’s. India will grow at a rate of 8-9% in the coming decade is what the industry experts are saying across the globe. China grew at more than 8% for 2-3 decades that is why they are an economic giant today. But now the rate is declining at a faster rate. China lost close to $4 trillions in just 5 days due to the crisis in Greece. This implies that their base is not strong. Unlike them, India has a very strong base. The Greece crisis hardly affected India. Yes, India is taking time, but once she reaches her full potential, there is no stopping. This is the reason that despite the differences b/w India & China, still we are doing business of $75 billion dollars which is slated to cross the 100 th mark by 2020.
    Yes, China is bigger than India area wise, but what has that got to do regarding the economy?? Land areas does not affect economies my friend. By the way, yesterday Forbes gave list of top 50 companies in Asia. Out of those there are 10 Indian companies. Yes, China is leading that list with 25 companies, but, we are catching up fast. India is at 2nd. That’s not bad. You worry about your country mate & stop praising China. There is not a single company in that list from your country. Recommend

  • Amu
    Jul 24, 2015 - 4:50PM

    What an unfortunate state we are….
    no electricity, no clean water, no gas, no jobs, no security, no development, no growth…but spending billion of dollars on stuff that never gonna be used….
    we already having sufficient weapons n nukes, then why buying more? which will remain unused…..

    I think we are getting trapped in India’s game…..India can afford high defence budget, but our fragile economy can’t afford it…..
    day by day our exports, our economy is declining……

    so first we should make ourselves economic power, fix problems of our country,,,,than we should think of competing with India or some other country ….
    if we keep increasing our defence budget just bcoz India is increasing …..then in Next 10 years slowly slowly we’ll be getting destroyed and ended to bankruptcy like soviet unionRecommend

  • rohit950723
    Jul 24, 2015 - 5:18PM

    In such type of deal lot of corruption is involved… Guess who is minting money & who is suffering…Recommend

  • RJ
    Jul 24, 2015 - 5:32PM

    Yes! Finally some wise person saw fit to address Pakistan’s most pressing need….. more submarines.Recommend

  • Pankaj
    Jul 24, 2015 - 5:33PM

    Pakistan has all right to buy sell arms to protect itself but don’t understand why it should always be India vs Pakistan. At the end of discussion core idea is lost under economy comparison between India and China where as the news is related to Pakistan !!!!!! Strange. Recommend

  • Timorlane
    Jul 24, 2015 - 6:04PM

    Just visit Times of India website and check this news and dozens

    of filthy comments from indians against us Pakistanis, our country

    and our religion and here they come in dirty droves to comment

    against us on a supposedly Pakistani news website and are duly

    obliged by the inferiority complexed pseudos in this website to

    abuse us and our country here too. Shame on ET.Recommend

  • romm
    Jul 24, 2015 - 6:06PM

    @Milind:
    Bit why are you so much worried… has ever Pakistani people or Govt commented over Indian’s multi billion defence deal with Russia or US. May it be SU-35 or F-35, we Pakistanis have never discussed India the way Indians do as regards to Pakistan.
    Perhaps it’s the National Character of Incredible India… Recommend

  • romm
    Jul 24, 2015 - 6:07PM

    @rohit950723:
    It’s not Bofors deal..Recommend

  • romm
    Jul 24, 2015 - 6:10PM

    @Pankaj:
    Good Observation. Recommend

  • Prakash
    Jul 24, 2015 - 7:03PM

    @Timorlane:
    Compared to Dawn and Tribune, Times of India is a rag; more interested in selling ad-spaces than in journalism.Recommend

  • Maxx.
    Jul 24, 2015 - 7:20PM

    @Joe: Pakistan is not only self reliant in all home electric appliances with local companies manufacturing all sorts of products ranging from fridge/deep freezers to split AC’s MW ovens, cooking ranges, washing machines to blenders/juicers all kitchen appliances etc(all Pakistani companies with no foreign franchise) like Dawlance, PEL, Waves etc, into exports too. Pakistan now produces about 2 million bikes per year and into exports.
    A Karachi based tech. company is exporting surveillance drones to European clients. Exporting precision parts to Boeing USA as well. Your knowledge about Pakistan and its industries is not up to date and lopsided.

    http://archives.dailytimes.com.pk/business/04-May-2006/boeing-places-100m-manufacturing-orders-with-pakistani-companies

    http://www.idaerospace.com/AboutUs.asp

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-3-116918-Home-appliances-sector-commences-exportsRecommend

  • Babloo
    Jul 24, 2015 - 7:22PM

    Congratulations China on a great deal. Recommend

  • IMTIYAZ
    Jul 24, 2015 - 7:34PM

    Defence is investing in the country as per the world does @Shuaib: Recommend

  • IMTIYAZ
    Jul 24, 2015 - 7:36PM

    So with that understand as india brought military planes from the west is the west using india as it’s depth with [email protected] – USA: Recommend

  • Afzal
    Jul 24, 2015 - 7:49PM

    @Maqbool Bhat:
    Begging is a term typically used by the Indians as a way of shaming. It is stupid that some of our own are also using the same language although to reflect different sentiment.
    We do not beg and what is sometimes indicated as aid is not free assistance but like any other nation we do take loans which we pay back. I agree we can rely less on loans if we can always get our priorities right. But remember we we have had our survival threatened by some evil forces who must never succeed. To live with dignity and your head high only comes with sacrifices and knowing our nation no matter how complex challenges we have we will never allow our enemies to subjugate us. So my friend do not worry too much about our spending on defence. Do not forget how many times more India would have walked into our country if we were week. Is it not our real courage and strength that despite being several times less resourced we are often keeping our neighbour sleepless until we can send them a crate or two of our yummy Pakistani mangoes.Recommend

  • Maxx.
    Jul 24, 2015 - 7:56PM

    @Dan:
    China posted 7% GDP growth this year, check TOI report. A 7% and more growth of a 10 trillion USD economy and a 7% and more growth of a five time smaller economy of India at 2 trillion USD have totally different connotations. At 8% growth for India it will take at least 30-35 years to catch up with China current GDP, by that time China GDP will be much higher.
    My point is there is a lot of similarities between Pakistan and India, than there is between India and China.
    Both countries have similar per capita GDP, ranks at 140-145 place in the world, somewhere between 1490 dollar for India to 1300 dollar for Pakistan. Both countries ranks at the bottom of HDI(human development index) both countries ranks between 135-140 in the world. The population of India is now 1.27 billion and for Pakistan it is approaching 200 million, Pakistan GDP of 250 billion USD is 1/8 th of India, roughly the same per capita as Indian population is also 7.5-8 times more than Pakistan. India will have more population than China in next 20 years or so. China per capita GDP is close to 7000 USD, 5 times that of India. Recommend

  • Anon
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:05PM

    @Dan
    India is third biggest Asian economy after Japan. First catch up with Japan then try Chinese. It will probably not happen in your lifetime but India is definitely destined to become the most populated country by 2040-2050. Enjoy.Recommend

  • Sandip
    Jul 24, 2015 - 9:22PM

    @ismail: It’s in your hands to settle at least one outstanding dispute the moment you are ready. Just get out of Jammu and Kashmir and respect the boundaries of Jammu and Kashmir as they existed on 14th August, 1947. Rest we can talk when you are ready to shun terrorism and sit down, talk and then able to walk the talk like a mature nation.Recommend

  • Sardar KHAN
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:46PM

    I thought Indians said in their comments before that they don’t care about Pakistan at all.Now they are rushing over here to show in their comments that they care about the welfare of Pakistanis.What a strange change of U-Turn from hate to love for us?Lots of laughs on their attitude. May be their attitude have changed after Modi being put as the worst prime minister of the century by Google/search.But still I will say,”Whatever have caused this change of heart”. We still think them our enemy # 1.
    I will advise them Burn in Jealousy and keep Burning you Indians,we know your real aims against our country.We will never trust you even if you offer apology for your yesterdays behaviour against us. Recommend

  • cautious
    Jul 24, 2015 - 10:59PM

    It would appear that the “economic corridor” has a hidden cost – anyone surprised? Maybe someone can explain how submarines are going to be used against terrorists? This purchase is an obvious “kickback” – called a bribe in the rest of the World. Recommend

  • Objectivist
    Jul 24, 2015 - 11:24PM

    A great deal between China and Pakistan, the element of trust in tremendous between the two countries, hopefully it would also uplift the Pakistan’s dwindling economy for the sake of its citizens. Recommend

  • Dan
    Jul 24, 2015 - 11:40PM

    @Maxx.:
    I dont agree with you mate. Yes, it will take India long time to catch China I agree, but I don’t think China will be far ahead than India by the time Indian economy reaches $10 trillions or thereabouts. China economy is on the verge of a slump. The bubble is about to burst is what the industry experts are saying because China adopted wrong policy decades ago with short term goals. That is precisely why they are struggling due to the crisis in Greece & Indian economy barely felt anything. Yes, there are similarities b/w India & Pakistan as mentioned by you, but, India despite being much bigger, is faring much better than Pakistan on lot of aspects. India, despite being 7 times larger than Pakistan in population, her per capita GDP is more which is significant considering we are the 2nd most populated country in the world. But what is more important is the “Growth Rate”. India’s rate is much more than Pakistan, whose rate is showing a downward trend whereas India will be growing at a rate of 8% come 2016 which will be more than double than Pakistan’s. Surely, our per capita gdp will rise much more than what it is currently. The Economy of India is the seventh-largest in the world by nominal GDP and the third-largest by purchasing power parity (PPP). On the other hand Pakistan’s is at 41st & 26th respectively. So there is no comparison indeed you see. India can only be compared with China in Asia, though I agree that we have a lot of catching up to do, but, we are on a correct path.Recommend

  • abcd
    Jul 25, 2015 - 2:30AM

    @ Raj-USA: You are spot on. I just to wish add one more point. China will be paying Pakistan the rent for keeping the subs in Pakistani harbors and using Pakistani waters. Most of this rent will be pocketed by people in power. Whole truth will come out sooner than later Recommend

  • Mahesh
    Jul 25, 2015 - 5:41AM

    Surprisingly no one commented about the fact that China is selling a scaled down version. Does it mean China won’t give the top of their line subs for $5billion?Recommend

  • SAHIR
    Jul 25, 2015 - 6:55AM

    @romm: it is necessary to have good defense to protect economy and it is also a plus point for Pakistan for having defense equipment with leaning (TOT) of new capabilities so no one should jealous we are a peace loving nation and nuclear power. but we should also check keenly that no corruption is involved in these deals like previous ones. Pakistan Zindabad (a gift from ALLAH)Recommend

  • Ma Jiang
    Jul 25, 2015 - 9:53AM

    I am Chinese, and I think that arms sales are inevitable due to the political interests of all nations, but honestly, we should all be striving for a united and more peaceful Asia at the same time. Recommend

  • Sensible person
    Jul 25, 2015 - 10:29AM

    Pathetic. People are starving in Pakistan but the Pakistani government is wasting billions to please their master China. Recommend

  • Toka
    Jul 25, 2015 - 11:47AM

    Smart decision. Recommend

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