Punjab

Students against PMDC formula

Around 150 prospective medical students protest against the admissions procedure for medical colleges.

Express October 08, 2010

LAHORE: Around 150 prospective medical students protested against the admissions procedure for medical colleges in front of the University of Health Sciences (UHS) and the Punjab Assembly on Thursday.

The protesting students, all of whom were from Government College University (GCU), want the merit list for admissions based on a UHS formula that gives greater weight to FSc marks, rather than the Pakistan Medical and Dental Council (PMDC) formula that the courts recently upheld.

The students first staged a protest in front of the UHS. After discussions with a UHS spokesman, they moved to the Punjab Assembly on The Mall.

They swept the road with brooms as a symbolic protest, saying they would become sweepers if the government did not let them become doctors.

Some students from Lahore said that under the UHS formula, they would be certain to gain admission to one of the city’s public medical colleges. But under the PMDC formula, they would have to go to a college outside the city.

The students said they had filed a writ petition against the PMDC formula in the Lahore High Court (LHC) and its first hearing would be on October 11. They later dispersed after the Punjab Assembly speaker gave them a hearing in his chambers.

On September 6, the LHC ruled that the UHS must follow the PMDC formula to draw up the merit list for admissions, which ranks candidates according to academic achievement.

The UHS formula gave 70 per cent weight to marks scored in FSc and 30 per cent to marks scored in the entry test. The PMDC formula gives 40 per cent weight to FSC, 10 per cent to matric and 50 per cent to entrance test marks.

The UHS spokesman told The Express Tribune that he had told the protesting students that the university would follow the LHC’s instructions.

The UHS will announce the schedule for admissions after conducting another entrance test on October 14, as per the LHC’s orders, for candidates who scored more than 60 per cent or above in FSc or equivalent examinations and who could not appear in the entrance test held on July 20, he said.

Published in The Express Tribune, October 8^th, 2010.

COMMENTS (46)

umer | 13 years ago | Reply the new formula iZ good but it would be better if applied from nxt year .... cuz this year its injustice 2 da student ....... i hope it should be followed from nxt year ... bcuz othrwize it will b unfair 4 fbise student......

Salman | 13 years ago | Reply request from all the medical students of pakistan especially punjab province...........why uhs has announced new pattern of entry test.this year changing policies of entry test has already spoiled the future of many hard-working students who worked equally hard in entry test but could not get merit marks.due to time shortage many of the students couldnot revise their course fully.this is injustice indeed.for the upcoming year,uhs has announced a completely different&strange pattern.this year all the problems has been created due to unexpected date of entry test before the announcement of fsc result.we strongly protest the entry test. admission should be on fsc base at least this year.we appeal to the higher authorities of government,uhs and president of pakistan to save the future of the young generation of pakistan.admissions in govt medical colleges should be on fsc base at least this year so that creme of pakistan should not be the victim of injustice......we hope and pray for the best.we will get justice insha-allah.

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FAHAD MASOOD | 13 years ago | Reply IT IS GOOD for those student's who scoring less marks in fsc so they get good marks in entry test

shahid imran | 13 years ago | Reply @ rana , sir i am a 2nd year mbbs student. what about your entry test which is far transparent than Fsc. PRACTICALS ? Make sure you do not come to my medical college. Another bad news for ratta group, pmdc is experimenting mcqs system in MBBS. keep your energy you ll have to protest again. What about USMLE steps , PLab and even FCPS. Sorry there are mcqs all the way,i m sorry here u ll be having no verdict from court.

Rana Mukhtar | 13 years ago | Reply oh realy. actually u was hoping change for urself not for the future of pak

shahid imran | 13 years ago | Reply congrats to ratta group, i was hoping a change but this country will never change.

m.Ahsan Shabbir | 13 years ago | Reply PMDC rules are above uhs rules. in our exams system 90% students get marks in FSC by unfair means.they failed in entry test as a result. why they not get FSC equal marks in entry test?thinkable thing is that syallabus is same again.truth is that unfair means does not used and they get less marks and then cry for giving preference to 70%merit method.it is reality that those students which are hardworking will always be successfull.so,PMDC rule to give preference to entry test is absolutely right.

Muhammad Umer | 13 years ago | Reply The Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan, in its interim order dated 22-10-2010, has directed Punjab government and University of Health Sciences (UHS) Lahore to determine the merit of candidates for admission to medical/dental institutions by adding the marks as follows: Weightage of FSc or equivalent marks - 70% Weightage of Entrance Test marks - 30%

Ahmad | 13 years ago | Reply 70 30 has been restored for this year by SUPREME COURT... Chief Justice himself gave verdict

amna | 13 years ago | Reply Well ! the main problem is that the the test and all the formulas regarding it were announced UNEXPECTEDLY , ALSO ITS AFFECTING the aggregate of every student . Students were not mentally prepared for all this early test before fsc result and later the changing formulas.NOW WE STRONGLY APPEAL PUNJAB GOVT to take serious notice against the entry test because this year all the problems have been created due to entry test WE STRONGLY PROTEST AGAINST THE ENTRY TEST , THE ADMISSIONS SHOULD BE ON FSC BASE, AT LEAST THIS YEAR. GOVERNMENT CAN SAVE THE FUTURE OF YOUNG GENERATION OF PAKISTAN. QUAID-E-AZAM ALWAYS GAVE IMPORTANCE TO YOUTH OF THE NATION. STUDENTS ARE THE NATION BUILDERS. ALL THE STUDENTS OF PUNJAB PROVINCE APPEAL FOR JUSTICE !

Muhammad Umer | 13 years ago | Reply sallam can any body tell me what is reall situation about UHS new admission Criteria .is the rule of 10 , 40,50 % apply from this year aur next year? and what about the supreme court decision about LHC order ? is any petetion entertain or not?

zahid imran | 13 years ago | Reply for your kind information people are also paying a lot for mcat preparation. And we all know very well the transparency of boards. no one should apply for nust because of greater t.est waitage. not informed does not mean that u did not attempted the test whole heartedly. if doctors are good without test than u should have to protest against the test and not the waitage.moreover test is computer marked but not the fsc. One of the toppers of fsc,instead of being ashamed of himself that he could not score in the test, wearing his medal in GEO programme KHABARNAAK was pleading for waitage change.

RANA MUKHTAR | 13 years ago | Reply the point is we were not informed before the test .so this formula should b applied in successive years .hamary sath itni nainsafi na ki jae.

iqbal | 13 years ago | Reply hi salman! i completely agree with u. iss entrytest aur pmdc formula ne fsc ki VALUE hi nahi rehney di . Students fsc mein merit par aaney ke liye 2 years hard-work aur struggle kartey hain. Parents institutions mein fees pay kartey hain.Besides this , the most important thing is ke fsc mein diye jane wale papers ki marking PAKISTAN KE AUTHENTIC BOARDS KARTey hain ! A few years before when there was no entry test ,students used to become doctors at that time also! they did not give any entry test. Aur woh hmari country ke reknowed doctors hain aur uun ki world level par value hai ! dear salman , I wish and hope that punjab govt will consider this point. INSHAHALLAH

hafiz talha | 13 years ago | Reply It is shame for our HARD WORKING students who burnt their MID NIGHT OIL not to get good marks in mcat. mcat is from the books of fsc in which you burnt your MID NIGHT OIL. The person who got more than 1050 marks in mcat was also having 20 days. If u deserve u ll get admission under any formula.

salman | 13 years ago | Reply That is the main point of INJUSTICE.For the preparation of Fsc,we were given 2years.The syllabus which requires two years to come upto the merit,was given only 20 DAYS for entry test in LOADSHEDING.Soon after fsc examination,when students were busy in their PRACTICALS,the date of entry test was announced abruptly and students were not mentally prepared for this sudden change of schedule for entry test exam.So again we appeal to PUNJAB GOVT to take serious notice to secure the future of HARD-WORKING STUDENTS who burnt their mid-night oil 2years in fsc to get good marks.It is crystal clear that admission should be on FSC BASE ONLY AT LEAST THIS YEAR in order to overcome the present haphazard situation which is created only due to entry test.ALL THE HARD-WORKING STUDENTS ARE LOOKING TOWARDS PUNJAB GOVERNMENT TO TAKE AN HONEST STEP TO SECURE THE FUTURE OF YOUTH OF OUR NATION.HOPE FOR THE BEST.WITH THANKS.THIS IS VOICE OF EVERY HEART OF ALL HARD-WORKING PRE-MEDICAL STUDENTS OF PUNJAB PROVINCE

hamza parvez | 13 years ago | Reply salman if you worked hard for 2years in fsc and burnt your mid-night oil to get good marksin fsc. why you r unable to get marks in entry test.

hamza parvez | 13 years ago | Reply This formula must be followed. If students are able to get good marks in Fsc then why they are unable to show their performance in entry test..In my opinion Ecat should have the same formula .Pakistan’s best universities follow entry test e.g NUST follows 75 15 10 formula and GIK follow 100% entry test.

hamza parvez | 13 years ago | Reply new formula must be followed 4m next year

hamza parvez | 13 years ago | Reply For 2010 the merit list should be prepared giving 70pc weitage to F.Sc marks and 30pc weitage to Entrance Test marks as the students were not informed about new formula earlier. The PMDC’s formula may be applied in the successive years

usama jamil | 13 years ago | Reply i only say it is very bad

salman | 13 years ago | Reply This is totally UNJUSTICE for MCAT students.from the very beginning by the early announcement of entry test till the pmdc formula.we request to punjab government to take serious notice to provide chance to the students to secure their future who worked hard for 2years in fsc and burnt their mid-night oil to get good marks.New formula has decreased its value.Not every person can afford private colleges.this year entry test system was a complete FLOP BY THE DAY OF ITS announcement before FSC RESULT.To overcome this problem its better to DO ADMISSIONS ON BASIS OF FSC MARKS ONLY AT LEAST FOR THIS YEAR to secure the future of HARD-WORKING STUDENTS.ITS voice of every heart HOPE FOR THE BEST.WITH THANKS.

ammar | 13 years ago | Reply NA MANZOOR NA MANZOOR NAYA FORMULA NA MANZOOR

usman | 13 years ago | Reply FORMULA IS TOTALLY UN JUSTICE with those students who had shure that their addmission will be don , b/c this was a rule from last several years, and lhc or UHS should tell the students before test,now i appeal to cheif JUSTICE that this formula should be applied from next year, NA MANZOOR NA MANZOOR NAYA FORMULA NA MANZOOR

Farhan khan virk | 13 years ago | Reply The uhs and lhc are all dead.The students are responsible for all these wrong decisions. We Sialkot students held a protest even when entrance test was announced but others didnt join us. Now everyone has to pay. We should all be together today.but pre medical students are of no use to protests.they can only compromise and study.

Ameema | 13 years ago | Reply Students couldn't get good marks in entry test because they were given less time for preparation as opposed to last year. This is totally unfair. Time given in the test was less and there were a lot of calculations to be done. FSc is much easier than entrance test, there is choice of questions and we don't have to read each and every line. NEW FORMULA SHOULD NOT BE APPLIED

FAZEEL QAMAR | 13 years ago | Reply FOR ALL THE STUDENTS PLZ JOIN US ON FACEBOOK THE LINK IS 'PROTEST AGAINST UHS lahore opposing their MCAT-merit killing policies 'plz boys and girls

xoxsoni | 13 years ago | Reply what so ever why should we accept the new policies ? its not fair n transparent if new policy was to be mada we shud hv been informed atleast before the final exm ov fsc prt 2 .such lame absurd pepl r running our govt n educatin systm first taking ent earlier with the notice only a mnth or few days bfor now chnging policies givin chnce to stdnts who got 60 to 65 % WAT IS ALL THIS ?it seems the policies to favor new stdnts gvn spcl test no t we idiots who got redy to prep ent in 20 dayz onlty

xoxsoni | 13 years ago | Reply our education system and the authorities like lhc pmdc uhs seems to be playing with our future or shall i assume it a political or self beneficial conspiracy of a well renowned person whos kiddoz ais nt able to get admsn i govt college on basis of fsc mks so they playing games to inc ent pcntage

Ahsan | 13 years ago | Reply now formula should be applied..!

Muhammad Ibrahim | 13 years ago | Reply Totaly unacceptible.

Zunnoorain | 13 years ago | Reply If UHS follows PMDC's rules to the letter, we have no objection. We accept the policy of "ALL or NONE". The first and formost disobedience of PMDC's rules was to hold the Entrance Test before the declaration of F.Sc result. Second, the Negative Marking was unlawful. Similarly there are many other such illegalities. Surely all these disobediences cannot be made legal and lawful with PMDC's rules. Neither is there time to make all the activities happen again. Consequently, PMDC's rules cannot be obeyed to the letter in this secnerio. So it will be better to remain the PMDC's rules untouched this year. Otherwise INCOMPLETE APPLICATION OF PMDC's RULES IS UNACCEPTABLE. We'll protest against it forcefully.

ghulam sarwar | 13 years ago | Reply this is totally unjustice with the students who have full hope of their admission in medical college.this is game with their future.i requested to chief minister to restore 70 , 30 watage.and follow new watage next year.

Noor ul ain Yousafi | 13 years ago | Reply its quite strange to digest that one who have got 1000 marks cant get 800 marks in entry test... new formula should be applied...

zahid waraich | 13 years ago | Reply Anyone who can guess the merit with both formulas.

rehan ahmad | 13 years ago | Reply new formula should be applied

shahid imran | 13 years ago | Reply I have heard about the reduction of 10 marks (fsc) of repeaters. Is it true?

RANA MUKHTAR | 13 years ago | Reply to apply rule of pmdc this year will be unjust as we were not informed before the entry test...we protest against it.

sheraz ahmad | 13 years ago | Reply All cramers are against the new formulae.Nust follow 75% ent, test and GIK 100%.why they are not accepting 50% by uhs.

Mohsin Waqas | 13 years ago | Reply This formula must be followed. If students are able to get good marks in Fsc then why they are unable to show their performance in entry test.Only memorizers should against this and they are.In my opinion Ecat should have the same formula .Pakistan's best universities follow entry test e.g NUST follows 75 15 10 formula and GIK follow 100% entry test.

fiza | 13 years ago | Reply it is totally unfair.Firstly they took test earlier on 20 July 2010 we accepted it and now they are changing the merit formula In their seminars before test they told us that your test weight age is 30% as in the previous year but now they are changing it the time given to us for the test is only one month but in the previous year students were given three months In short they are playing with our future 10 50 40 MERIT FORMULA IS UNACCEPTABLE

saad butt | 13 years ago | Reply i dont no why many students giving excuses that they were informed about the formula later.they should accept new formula.

rabia | 13 years ago | Reply new formula must be followed 4m next year

jia tariq | 13 years ago | Reply its totally unfair to change the formula.....we all favor the last criteria 4 admissions...

Zunuran | 13 years ago | Reply It is unjust to follow PMDC's formula this year as the students were not informed about it earlier.

M. Zunnoorain Rae | 13 years ago | Reply For 2010 the merit list should be prepared giving 70pc weitage to F.Sc marks and 30pc weitage to Entrance Test marks as the students were not informed about new formula earlier. The PMDC's formula may be applied in the successive years.

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