Imran Khan 'symbolic successor' of Allama Iqbal, says poet's grandson
Waleed said this while addressing the gathering at the ceremony, which was attended by Imran, PTI Vice Chairman Shah Mahmood Qureshi and PTI President Javed Hashmi. Hundreds of youth supporters and PTI leaders from across the country attended the ceremony.
Waleed had earlier said the same during a recent interview, when on being asked whether he would spread Iqbal’s poetry after joining PTI, he had replied, “There isn’t a need to spread Iqbal’s message to common people now as PTI Chairman Imran has already done so.”
Commenting on Imran’s reference to Iqbal in his autobiography, Waleed had added that the autobiography not only had a chapter dedicated to Iqbal but Imran had repeatedly mentioned throughout the book on how he had learnt from Iqbal.
At the ceremony, Waleed also recited verses from Iqbal’s famous poem ‘Saqi Naama’.
Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly mentioned Munib Iqbal instead of Waleed Iqbal. The error is regretted.
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What he said is right ,he need youth of Pakistan ,but he should say this too youth parents,uncle,aunts and younger brothers,sisters if all they come to vote him he will be the winner.we had enough from two time chair occupier not they should not expect more time. I always tell the youth of Pakistan bring your parents,uncle,aunties,sisters,brothers as a voters to get him success.IK you must make base with younger Pakistanis and then you ask the younger s to bring their other relatives to cast their vote for you . Inshaallah you will win,but after you get your object you must do something serious for the middle class,lower class.
@sabi: "Didn’t you know that his poetry is greatly inspired by Goethe and Nietzsche.Why are you so upset".
Now you got it right.Inspired !!. your earlier post said "translator" which essentially accused him of Plagiarism. It is not uncommon for thinkers to be inspired by philosophers who precede them. Karl Marx for example was inspired by Hegelian Philosophy of Dialectics. Kant by Descarte,Libniz by Spinoza etc. You may disagree with Iqbal's thinking ,as I certainly do, but I won't accuse him of Plagarism.
@Zalmai
Agreed 100%.
@Roger @Zainab @sabi @Zalmai
You all made substantive, dispassionate and cultured comments. As @sabi points to, most posters here are emotional outpourings of the uninitiated. The culture of hero worship is ingrained in our psyche from an early childhood. It’s quite common throughout the subcontinent and in most sub-altern emerging societies. Instead of looking at their work as the work of just another human being, we try to impart a sense of divinity to their work and loose the objectivity. Senses of parochial nationalism, with an acute shortage of heroes to worship, can make it a spectacle of comical proportion. As it did on this occasion.
No doubt, Iqbal was a great man, but not Imran Khan, Allama Iqbal was a good friend of Hazrat Allama Anwar shah Kashmiri and Maulana Syed Ata Ullah Shah Bukhari who was former president of ''Majlis-e-Ahrar-e-Islam".
"Symbolism' aside, if the real Grand Son cannot qualify, how can Imran Khan qualify to be Iqbal's successor ?
Well, Iqbal's idea for a political leader was different. I wrote an article on this topic Imran and the establishmentlast year. Pasting the link below. Kindly go through it. (the image used in this article won't be visible though)
http://www.ahmadhammad.com/articles/imran-and-the-establishment
FYI, Munib Iqbal is also Allama Iqbal's grandson and the brother of waleed iqbal. This particular grandson indeed is Waleed, but it is incorrect to state that Munib is not the grandson of Allama Iqbal when he actually is.
@Zalmai: Thanks a lot for your kindnes.From your posts on different topics I judge you, as really an educated person and eventually realist and civil.The problem with such people is that they are intoxicated with delusions and facts really bite them their next stage is what we are seeing in the form of talibans.I don't wonder why there is so much support for taliban.
@Sabi
You are absolutely right, Iqbal owes much of his poetry to European writers and his Farsi poetry was merely pedestrian. I am surprised at the lack of civility and tact on this forum when disagreeing with someone's post.It is ironic that IK supporters mask themselves as proponents of change and democracy yet they cannot tolerate dissent, which is a fundamental principle of democracy.
@Aslam: @sabi, i will spit and you go and drown into it. This is what you learnt from his poetry? @Lala Gee: There are no lower limits of ignorance, and you proved it. Didn't you know that his poetry is greatly inspired by Goethe and Nietzsche.Why are you so upset.
@Zainab, not so fast ! have you ever met waleed iqbal ? he is nothing short of genius, just look at his education credentials. His knowledge itself makes him a true descendent of his grandfather Allama Iqbal. -From a former student of Waleed Iqbal
I think most of the folks commenting above probably havnt read much of Iqbal's poetry.
@sabi, i will spit and you go and drown into it.
A great joke!!!
We are proud of imran khan.
Imran Khan is our proud
@sabi:
"Alama Iqbal is not a thinker but translater"
There are no lower limits of ignorance, and you proved it.
@Ch. Allah Daad:
"Imran is symbolic but real successor is Mian Shahbaz Sharif. Mian Nawaz Sharif is Quaid-e-Azam Sani."
That was a joke? Wasn't it?
imran khan you are great leader in the world
Its not funny! Iqbal must be turning in his grave.
All PTI supporters who wants to bring a change in this country need to be more active in the next few months .One political party is distributing Laptop seccond series and other distributing money in the name of development funds.Huge money will be used to beat PTI candidate by both status quo parties.All honest Pakistanis need to come out on the day of election and vote for PTI in order to bring a change .We want voters turn out to be above 70%.Only the youth of Pakistan can ensure this high turn out on the day of election.If the educated youth of Pakistan do not come out of their houses to vote, we will continue to be ruled by un-educated corrupt class of Pakistan.
Long live Pakistani Youth and long live Pakistan
Meanwhile, Iqbal rolls in his grave
Guys lets spread the words of Iqbal and Imran. Please educate your family and friends.
If we keep doing what we are doing we will keep getting what we are getting. We have to do something different!!!!!
Thanks and show respect to other people point of view. :)
immi is only ray of hope!
Alama Iqbal is not a thinker but translater who has done that job by translating philospher Goethe of Germany.Irony is right wing mindeset has given him too much Importance for vested intrests.So much so that he is being wrongly portrayed as islamic scholar.He was a good poet and nothing more.Iqbal can never replace MA Jinah.IK's politics is gup-shup and nothing more.
Sorry but genius is not like inheritance. Waleed is only a biological descendent of Iqbal, it does not make him the intellectual inheritor? It is not Waleed's place to decide who is or isn't the intellectual successor to Iqbal.
PTI all the way in the coming elections. They deserve a chance to say the least !!
@Roger:
Your comment shows pure visceral hatered of Imran, nothing else.
I am sure the error is not regretted. Because you have not reported my (and possibly other peoples) comment reporting the mistake. Also we expect the tribune to make mistakes, which is very human, but you seriously need to bring to task the authors and put in place a reasonable mechanism at least to check typographic and such basic reporting errors which I see far more than in any other renowned newspaper. Please raise your reporting standards both in terms of editing and content. Sincerely.
We know that and we sure believe that!
His name is Waleed Iqbal, not Munib Iqbal.
Imran Khan is the best thing to happen to Pakistan. Unfortunately, not many people realize it. Our vote is for you....Imran Khan.
haters can keep on hating ....
His name is "Waleed Iqbal"
Imran is symbolic but real successor is Mian Shahbaz Sharif. Mian Nawaz Sharif is Quaid-e-Azam Sani.
FYI...Allama Iqbal's grandson, who made the speech today, is Walid Iqbal not Munib Iqbal.
He's the furthest thing from the genius of Allama Iqbal. What an offensive statement. Iqbal's grandson has no credibility in making such statements since his grandfather died well before he was born. In any case, I would have thought Iqbal's grandson would be a little more educated in his political opinions. Regrettably, this is our (his) legacy.
Allama Iqbal's name being used for political purposes by his grandson
FYI
The name of Iqbal's grandson is Walid Iqbal not "Munib Iqbal"
Pathetic reporting u guys do . .shows ur standard
Waleed Iqbal not Muneeb Iqbal.The person who said those words is Waldd Iqbal although he does have a brother named Muneeb.
Impressive
That was so generous of Waleed Iqbal but its true.
Iqbal was supported by "Majlis Ahrar i Islam" in the 1930s unfortunately. This movement later opposed Pakistan movement and Jinnah tooth and nail. Today Imran Khan is supported by molvis of all kinds. Will he want to be Iqbal's "successor" or be Jinnah's successor?
FYI The name of Iqbal's grand son is Walid Iqbal not "Munib Iqbal" Shows the standard of reporting you guys do.
His name is Waleed Iqbal, and not Munib. Please correct this.
its waleed iqbal and not muneeb iqbal
ET: you sure the name is Munib Iqbal. Becauze last time I checked, Allama Iqbal's grandson was named Waleed Iqbal :) :)
Imran khan- you are the last hope. Don't disappointing us!
Since long Iqbal's Shaheen was hiding in Mianwali..
No one heed him five years ago when he was talking of bigger issues. He is popular now because public and youth have realized that petty issues are not their problems but it is lawlessness, corruption, mismanagement, lack of leadership and security that matter most. He was the lone voice then but people have adopted it with time.....Voice whose time has come.
Without a hint of doubt.
it was amazing..... the grandsons of allama iqbal and faiz ahmed faiz were there
PTI zindabad