Terror support: US arrests Pakistani man
A Pakistani man who allegedly received training from Islamist militants before moving to Washington has been arrested and charged with providing support to a terror group, US officials said on Friday.
Jubair Ahmad, 24, stands accused of providing material support to the powerful Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, designated by the US government as a foreign terrorist organisation, and then lying about his involvement to investigators.
According to an unsealed affidavit by a Federal Bureau of Investigation special agent, Ahmad produced and posted a propaganda video for LeT “glorifying violent jihad” in 2010, some three years after he arrived in the United States with his parents and two younger brothers.
“Terrorist organisations such as LeT...use the internet and other media as part of well orchestrated propaganda campaigns,” the agent stated in the affidavit released by the US Justice Department.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 3rd, 2011.
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Thank You Uncle Sam. I don't care if terrorist is named Jubair or Zubair or Chubair or Kuber, if he is supporting international terrorism then he should be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law which Pakistan or Bangladesh or India are not always good at doing. Having laws are one thing and following law to the letter is another. And that, my friends, is difference between First World and Third World.
We are the easy catch before and after the crime for USA the world over for decades when we were moulded to have friendship with American against strategic all ground realities. American have used us always being never a difficult friends.
@Aadersh: you said
"Jubair Ahmed or Zubair Ahmed?? I mean Pakistanis don’t pronounce ‘Z’ as ‘J’ it’s Bengalis or Indians pronouncing like that…Or perhaps ET has copied news from any Indian site.."
I am seeing RAW hand here
Don't these people read newspapers? I mean people like this fellow and faisal shazad. No country takes kindly to being plotted against. Is that so hard to understand Pakistanis?
@Adeel759:
What you say is right; racial profiling is a must. People of Pakistani origin who have UK passports now can freely enter US. Such people are more radicalized than those with Pakistani passports.
If the US wants to safeguard its border, it needs to devise a mechanism, at the immigration line itself, to find out which type of visitors are most like to cause harm to US. It could be racial profiling. Or maybe, stringent visa norms, stricter than the methods adopted by UAE. Only such things can protect the US since the whole Ummah actively hates the US.
This report leaves out important details. As per FBI, they have recorded conversations of Jubair Ahmed with Talha , son of LeT leader , Hafiz Mohammad. Reports say Talha and Jubair allegedly communicated about the images, music and audio that Jubair was to use to make the video. The final video contained images of LeT leader Hafiz Saeed. Hafiz Mohammad is the alleged mastermind of 26/11 attack, wanted by India, but proclaimed as innocent social worker by the establishment.
@ Zain Kamran, thanks for correcting me. Its more scary if he is out in 11.5 years.
"Wake up" otherwise the word pakistani will become the most hated word around the world. This is an appeal to civil society of pakistan from your neighbour.
I know there are many Indians, pakistani, bangladeshis or other nationals who do no write correct spellings because English is not first language although global language. I hope the issue is closed now.
@Aadersh
Jubair Ahmed or Zubair Ahmed?? I mean Pakistanis don’t pronounce ‘Z’ as ‘J’ it’s Bengalis or Indians pronouncing like that
And of course there are no 'Pakistanis' of 'Indian' or 'Bengali' origin. Aadersh just re-wrote the history of Pakistan.
@Khalid Ahmed: I agree with your comments about LeT but the same is also applicable for JeM and LeJ as well. All these outfits needs to be first disarmed and then brought into national stream otherwise they will go the TTP way.
Its strange that nowhere in the article or comments is there a mention that Jubair is a Muslim. The LeT is a terror outfit with an agenda that misuses religion and impressionable minds like Jubair are their victims.
@ ali, i get you man!
@Mohammed: Well said. Great comment.
@Aadersh: well said bro! fantastic point!
@Nadeem Ahmed: i think you don't know about the year counts in JAIL ? 23 jail years means 11.5 ACTUAL years :) bceause in jail, one day completes in 12 hours. So this guy will be out when he is 35.5 years old.
@Cautious: you are wrong a bit there. On papers, you'll be an AMERICAN. let aside the ethnicity or previous country. Holding a green card doesn't mean that you become a WHITE - American! No questions in it, but america is populated with every type of ethnic groups, so they all are americans. hencem, this man was an a american and NOT a Pakstani :) Think wide, can we ?
Pakistanis love US Green card, US education,science, computing and life style. Unfortunately despite our generous aid in return they hijack our planes bomb our cities and export Terrorism.
Aha, the apologists are already active here saying Jubair is an Indian Muslim name. A simple google search for 'jubair pakistan' gives many Pakistani persons and Pakistani villages containing 'jubair'.
Why don't Pakistanis accept that LeT is a terrorist organization with global aspirations? LeT guys are not Kashmiri freedom fighters. They never were. Power corrupts everyone.
Pakistani or whatever? At least ask him name right! Jubair? What Pakistan he belongs?
@Zain Kamran: because he only recently moved to USA. Blacks have been in US since 300 years..
Many parts of the world including Pakistan where militancy is going on, would become peaceful when jihad factory in Pakistan is effectively closed and banned by its govt.
@Ode: "So now FBI also starts tracking down normal people just uploading videos on YouTube? Speaks miles about the sense of security in America. I would never live in such a country"
Yeah! Perhaps you prefer to live in Karachi where the videos of people being tortured and dismembered are freely distributed.
US does not tolerate incitement of terror and that is a good thing. This maybe one reason that they have not had any major terror incident since 9/11.
@Zain Kamran: "People who change their nationalities must not be related to their prior/ past nationalities". But that's the point - he had NOT changed his nationality. Getting a green card is not the same as being a citizen. Moreover he was a very recent immigrant and his terror indoctrination was in Pakistan. You will see references to Sudanese and Ehtiopians in US news when it refers to recent immigrants from these countries who have not yet got American citizenship.
Now the LeTs will think twice before shifting to the United States, bet he was on welfare too. There goes the social benefits!
@sam:
" y cant we call it a “Pakistani American Arrested” ? after all he was legal permanent resident "
Legal permanent residents are not Americans. They are just legal aliens until thet acquire American citizenship.
With all due respect, I think its not Jubair Ahmad's fault. If a country provides education of hate and terror to its youth what else they will spread ?
@Ode: You will drop your comment at the very instance you get a USA visa stamped on your passport. So please comment wisely. Fact is nobody in Pakistan can deny the opportunity to move to Europe, Canada, USA, Australia, anywhere but Asian and African sub continent.
@Zain Kamran: As per this report,Accused Jubair Ahmad is a legal permanent resident of USA ,that means he is not US citizen and only after living in USA for 5 years One can apply for Citizenship , so he is still Pakistani citizen.So you should not be offended,if he is called Pakistani.
he was a pakistani citizen, not an american citizen. legal permanent resident = green card holder. it means he was not yet an american citizen. so its absolutely correct to call him a pakistani.
@Aadersh : I envy your blissful ignorance :)
His parents are responsible for this and the consular who gave them the green cards. They should have migrated to North Wizaristan. There was no reason to come to this country. A week ago a 17 years old P kid who got scholarship to John Hopkins got caught for terrorism. His family moved to the US four years ago as well. What a colossal waste. All following in the footsteps of Mr. Cool Shahzad the son of Pakistan Air Force Vice Marshall. You want Jihad, go to school and work hard. If this life is not important to you then why you want to kill others. Why not go alone boy - sit on a train track or jump from your mama's roof.
How can one even conspire against the system one is living in based on religious propaganda elsewhere. Most Pakistanis as proud of their concocted Arabic descent but have you ever heard to anyone blowing himself in Saudi Arabia due to problems in Pakistan?
Pakistan has a generation of brain washed youngster, how this generation is handled will be crucial for future of Pakistan.
That's the first "Jubair" I've heard off from Pakistan.
@sam: He is not a Pakistani American until he gets citizenship. He is a terrorist and hopefully gets what he deserves
Let em get this straight he is accused of uploading a video on you tube? 23 years in jail? I guess FBI had to show it not a complete waste of money, on the anniversary of 911. Great job boys!
Terror business is trated very seriously,and no leniency is shown towards the case.Peoples life is a serious business.Now this family is deep trouble.FBI and govt will throw the book at this man,wait and watch.Pretty dark days ahead. This is another drama_
@Aadersh: Seriously whether his name is pronounced as Jubair or Zubair - that was your concern? Not the fact that he moved as an adult to USA on Green Card and instead of respecting that opportunity, he chose to abuse it by getting involved with terror?
Not the fact that he was an educated person and still it was possible for him to be indoctrinated in such a way in Pakistan?
Not the fact that once again Hafiz Saeed is in limelight globally because his son was associated with this boy?
Not the fact that - not only are people like Hafiz Saeed are not in jail but actually openly carry out rallies where they spew hate speech where boys like this get indoctrinated?
@sam: "and y cant we call it a “Pakistani American Arrested” ? after all he was legal permanent resident " Because he was not an American citizen.
@Aadersh: Your comments are very immature! I feel for those people who keep the company of a person with your mentality. About your comment I say : Waisey dil behlaaney ke liye ghalib, khayaal accha hai!
@hariharmani: Hi Sir how are you? I agree with you. But then the outfits are always trapping these vulnerable boys. I feel sorry for the family. Hope he has mended his ways!
@MBN: why is he a hypocrite ? Dont white people in engage in terror attacks against there own country ? If you commit injustice in the world expect revenge. He was not eating of anyones land. This is probably a classic american entrapment FBI style
He was a american, nothing to do with Pakistan.He was radicalised by that country . As for LET they have no links to AL QAEDA
Yes!It takes very special society,special person to do all this in 2 years of arriving here.Don't ask what makes some one stoop this level?If I could figure this out I will be hailed in Islamic world atleast as a "Messiaih',no one knows what this madness is all about,what triggers this,one struggles to get here ,have a future,be somebody,get good education,go places,then throw it all for a cause,of dubious nature.How are you going to cause an elephent some problem being an ant?Can any nation including Chinna take on USA?Answer is resounding No! You do not need to be rocket Scintist,just little common sense.Tribune Express is trying hard to educate society,but English is not enough,have a parallel news out let in urdu,to have some impact.It is so sad a,young life is wasted,LTT should be proud to have brain washed this poor kid and hurt this family,I'm speechless.But I do understand this mindset and madness.Pakistan i and Pakistan have very little useful time left.Time running out.Just can not brush it under the carpet,something seriously wrong.We all need to come with an Answer in a hurry.
@Aadersh: Briiliant eye you have got ...
Good to see when our Army released murderer 'Raymond Davis' ... Americans always pay back in the same way though.
Pehlay hi kaha tha latka do 'Raymond' ko ...
@sam
Because he's a Pakistani citizen - not an American citizen - you don't become an American because your holding a green card.
I have Pakistani friends who have names that start with Jubair not Zubair.
@Ali Not every Pakistani is called Ali.Jubair is a common name in Pakistan.Whats your point?
FOR GOD'S SAKE! why do they term ' Pakistani ' ? When the guy, on geographical basis, was an AMERICAN ? America is a place that became populated with immigrants from different countries and with different ethnicity. When a black guy commits a crime, its termed as only ' American psychopath ' and NOT as ' AN AFRO/ NEGRO/ AFRICAN ' . - same case goes for a WHITE guy. WHY PAKISTAN ? People who change their nationalities must not be related to their prior/ past nationalities. ( ON PAPERS at least ). Pakistanis this, Pakistanis that ! We don't term these fake talibans as ' Afghanis ' do we ?
If he is involved, 23 years is a very small sentence. He should be in jail for life. He is 24 now, after 23 years he will be in fiftees, still very dangerous.
Here we go again.
Jubair Ahmed or Zubair Ahmed?? I mean Pakistanis don't pronounce 'Z' as 'J' it's Bengalis or Indians pronouncing like that...Or perhaps ET has copied news from any Indian site..
When I see the age of Mr Ahmed,24,I 'm shocked,the parents and the person charged do not realise,what they are dealing with.This is not sub-continent where 'law and order' is played with.Terror business is trated very seriously,and no leniency is shown towards the case.Peoples life is a serious business.Now this family is deep trouble.FBI and govt will throw the book at this man,wait and watch.Pretty dark days ahead.
these are the type of typical people who have ruined Pakistan's image. and y cant we call it a "Pakistani American Arrested" ? after all he was legal permanent resident .
A Pakistani called Jubair Ahmad?? Whatever's next.
Not that I'm a fan of so called US Interests or the methods being employed by our retarded and backward Muslim nations to address them, but it takes a special kind of hypocrite to eat off someone's food, live on their land, and yet plot against the very place which is proving to be the source of their survival.
After he spends his 20 years in jail he will be deported back to Pakistan --- probably endangered his families chances of getting USA citizenship as well --- hope he thinks it was worth it - doubt his family does.