Pakistan

Attack on Ahmadis was a conspiracy: MTKN

Leaders of religious organisations said that the Lahore attacks were a conspiracy to repeal laws against Ahmadis.

June 09, 2010

LAHORE: Leaders of Muttahida Tehrik-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwat said on Wednesday that Lahore attacks were a conspiracy to repeal laws against Ahmadis, reported BBC Urdu.

Maulana Zahidul Rashdi, founding member of the organisation, read a joint statement at the meeting’s conclusion that said that the attack on Ahmadis is being used to create suspicions about the concept of Khatm-e-Nabuwat i.e. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) being the last prophet.

The meeting that took place in Muslim Town, Lahore, included members of 13 religious and political organistations including JUI-F, Jamaat-ud-Dawa and 11 others.

Just a few days back, religious leaders had shown their contempt for Nawaz Sharif's statement where he referred to the Ahmadi community as brothers.

Comments on tribune.com.pk

Muntazir:

When we would grow up as a nation and tell these Mullahs to stop misusing Islam and zip it……..??? These people are spreading hatred continuously in the name of Islam through most of these 12000 madarassas. They are brainwashing young children and youth in these madaris who don’t get to get knowledge from any other source.

Bangash:

These hateful clerics are always against tolerance, so why won’t they be against Mr Sharif’s statement ? I don’t like Nawaz Sharif but I appreciate this one act of statesmanship on his behalf.

Mullah’s Pakistan is not wanted!

Farhan:

Lets open up everything! We are used to shutup all our mental faculties when it comes to Jihad, Sects, Muslims and non-muslims definition, etc.

The massacre of Ahmedi brothers and sisters has given us (pakistanis) an opportunity to discuss every controvertial thing we heard around us in society. What result will we get? (Good qustion). Here is the answer.

At least no one will be allowed to kill innocent humans in the name of Islam as we saw in last three decades.

Pervaiz:

If a person from other religion like Hindu or Christian will came to me and ask me to consider him as Muslim without changing his religion believe .can i consider him as Muslim Off course not . a person can not call Muslim until he read “ KALMA “ mean he initially believe that God is one and Muhammad P.B,U,H is last prophet of the God . I a modern muslim , yes all Pakistani have equal right no one have right to kill anyone . but these terrorist is killing Pakistani without an discrmantion thousand of muslim and non muslim were kill . A person can be Pakistani but for muslim he must believe on one God and Muhammad P.B,U,H is last prophet of the God.

COMMENTS (34)

fdgdsgg | 14 years ago | Reply love these religous leaders

Malik Muhammad Umer Hayat Chheena | 14 years ago | Reply @Hamza and all others against Mullah/Molvi/etc First of all i m not pro or against Mullah. I believe in Holy Quran and Sunnah as i said earlier too. The issue is long discussed and many points arose, yet one thing, have any one spoke against politicians? Is there any politician to live like? after Jinnah and Liaquat, politics ended and only corrupt are there. It was negligence of security agencies and police not the Mullah. Mullah is not appointed for security. Although he has left his original job and now misdoing. Yet except some all Mullahs are created by the roti maang group they have ever worked on roti. It is issue of roti for which they came to politics too. Did anyone asked any law enforcement agency to arrest culprits. I have read about hundreds of blogs, no one demanded this. For God's sake un kay bhi graibaan pakro jo tumharay hukmran aur qanoon saaz hain Thanks and sorry if any one got hurt from my words.

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Hamza | 14 years ago | Reply I am Ahmadi, and its shocking how the mullahs have distorted our religion. I hear strange and perverse views from our fellow Pakistanis. A very close friend of mine, thought that we had a different Kalima up till the massacre on the 28th. I think its time you stopped listening to the Mullah's version of Islam and actually sat down to look up what Islam really is. This barbaric act of extremism has only strengthened our faith in Ahmadiyyat. Moreover, before coming to a judgement about our religion, hear our side of the story as well. And the reason you don't see us condemning all those other attacks on Pakistan, is because we choose not to start our condemnation with the lines "I am an Ahmadi...". We oppose it as much as any true Pakistani and we do not consider ourselves any different. Love for All, Hatred for None.

Zeeba | 14 years ago | Reply Correction Rather than a generalization, I, as an Ahmadi Muslim, am proud to differ from the mullahs wrt my belief. And the reason for me to feel this way, is you people, who treat the right as wrong and view my belief with contempt but in its response, let me make it very clear, its my belief that i'm proud of Alhamdulillah and yet,i'm not the least bit haughty/arrogant(if anyone misunderstood me for meaning 'superior to some other' when I used the word 'proud'). Definitely, all mankind is equal before God..like, the poor and the rich stand equal before Him so do the black and the white and so do the Arabs and non-Arabs but the only differentiation Allah makes is when He Judges them based on their actions and deeds alone and then, they no longer stand as equal. To Shepherd We are not 'children' of God, its not the right expression.. although its understood what you really meant...

Faryal Tahir | 14 years ago | Reply Excellent. You cant get a thing out of someone's mind with logic which didn't enter logically. Mullah's you and your 'settlements'.

Muhammad Asif Zia | 14 years ago | Reply They are foreign agents, and undermine Islam and Pakistan. Now the time is for Muslim, we should have enough knowledge about Islam and spend time and consult with ulma-e-karam.

Shepherd | 14 years ago | Reply *correction www.alislam.org To Zeeba Your passion is obvious but plz beaware of the tone in the message (language at the heat of moment)... You say Ahmadis are proud to differ but remember in the eyes of Allah all mankind is equal.. we are all children of god but some divert from the path and forget whose court we're in. All can is pray for those to return to the way chosen. We all need to work together to achieve peace and a better tomorrow.

Shepherd | 14 years ago | Reply Enlighted minds should all take a moment and question ourselves before caving in to the hearsay and misconceptions of generations. Find out what is an Ahmadi first. Why they are considered non-muslims? Do they believe in Khatam e Nabuwat? Find out about their mannerism in regards to any action taken against them or any human matter of effect. Find out the truth we Ahmadis die for.. not just concerning Islam, the last prophet, but concepts regarding our soul, our evolution, and our demise. Find out for yourself what Peace and love means. With open unbaised hearts we can all achieve the depths of truth. Find out why these wordly matters don't mean anything to us. Find out the meaning of Love for all, Hatred for None. And why we are at eternal peace.. is that not the ultimate goal? Knowledge is power. Find out why its called Ahmadiyyat! Mohammad-Ahmad(saw) kay rastay pur calnay wallay www.alisalm.org

farhan | 14 years ago | Reply To Syed A Mateen: I am non-Ahmedi, a muslim and a proud Pakistani. I ask Mr Mateen, What Islam you are teaching? I strongly condemn your statement (Ahmedis are non-muslims and they cant be muslims' brother). How many of us actually read the objective islamic history in Pakistan? We all heard from our childhood that this sect is KAFIR and he is NON-MUSLIM, and we belive so without even bother to read anything. Some of our Ahmedis brothers in this very story stated their beliefs. We should not write or say anything wihtout knowing the other side of picture. In Pakistan, we first massacre a community and then say that it was a conspiracy against majority? what a shame on us, i am out of words. We Pakistanis, are bent upon crushing our minorities, be it christians, hindus, ahmedis. Because we are educated-illiterate nation. Shame on our mentalities, we propagate every negative thing and deliberately hide good deeds of others.

Zeeba | 14 years ago | Reply If the mullahs think they are muslims, they should take a moment out to reflect n compare thmeselves to the people of Prophet Muhammad's(saw) time. Are they anywhere close to the followers of Rasool Allah(saw) in their actions? Did Prophet Muhammad(saw) teach this hatred? Did he teach propagation of falsehood,bigotry,spreading unrest,disharmony amongst people? Did he teach killing of innocent people? did he teach conspiring and attacking like cowards, forget mosques but any place of worship while people were worshipping unawares n unarmed? Look at followers of Abu Jehl...Did they practice peace and harmony?Did they propagate tolerance,patience,fairness,goodness,high values,good ethics? Which category do these mullahs fall into? Islam teaches u to practice what u preach. Not that you call urself a muslim but follow actions of Abu Jehl! If these mullahs call themselves the true followers of Prophet Muhammad(saw), imagine its implications on a non-believer who would surely misconstrue the image of Holy Prophet(saw). You mullahs,are none but the worst people dishonouring the name of Islam and our Prophet(saw). Innocent people look up to you with high hopes believing you can guide them aright but you are the biggest enemies of Islam and truth! The Iblis(satan) succeeded in misleading you haughty and egoistic faggots! It is indeed you about whom is the tradition of the Prophet(saw), "Ulema of latter ages will be the worst people on earth" Ahmadis are a community of muslims who are proud of the 'Kalima' and their faith.They practice what they preach and they are even prouder to differ from you people who Rasool Allah(saw) himself regarded as 'worst of mankind'.You have only spread wrong about Ahmadiyyat and have been stopping Ahmadis till now (although unsuccessfully) from telling people the truth about the Promised Messiah and Mahdi(as) and now you fear that repealing the laws against them will lead to your sad and contemptuous downfall and spread of true Islam and people will accept the true Islam which you have been hiding from them till now. Allah is with the believers only and never with liars. Your lies will very soon be public inshallah and the world will know your truth as well as the truth of Ahmadiyyat and the pious,God-fearing people will decide for themselves whats truth instead of you deciding for them..inshallah.

Malik Muhammad Umer Hayat Chheena | 14 years ago | Reply @ A for [pine]Apple Thanks for your detailed response, please search my name at the same webpage of paper i have regretted the incident. And the matter of faith is clearly mentioned in Holy Quran and Hadith. So i believe in that, and discussed the matter in that way. Secondly it was not though to speak against the nationalism of Ahmedis, yet incidents i discussed. I have also discussedd same sentiments of grief on this issue on same webpage. And the comment that i challenged your sentiments is dubious, nd i dont care for that. You wrote:- '' You mentioned International Islamic University too .. that’s my alma-matter and my heart equally bled when I heard of the brutal bombings there. Probably more than YOU can imagine. Ponder more deeply into matters … sometimes face-values are fake .. specially when a community is persecuted to an extent that their voice fails to reach the main stream media.'' According to my comprehension you challenged my sentiments, yet i am also Islamian being second generation over there.I am clear about views presented here, according to my comprehension of Islam. What concerns to Politics is simply RAJ-NEETI and these politicians can do any-thing for their vote-bank. I always welcome Ahmedis as a Pakistani to play their role in Pakistan's growth, without discrimination.

Ayesha | 14 years ago | Reply Attack on Ahmadi Mosques was conspiracy then what was attack in Jinnah Hospital???

Sadie :) | 14 years ago | Reply Salam, I'm an Ahmadi and I'm proud to be an Ahmadi!!! People, who claim that the attacs of our mosques in Lahore was a conspiracy and we have done this, only to repeal the laws against us, they can, if they want create new laws against us. We don't need people, who help us, our Allah will always help us, he helped us about 100 years ago, will help us today and in the future. Love for All, hatred for Non, that is the motto, every Ahmadi-Muslim live and will always live on, Inshallah. Wasalam Sadie :)

Hasan | 14 years ago | Reply The scale of discrimination practiced against Ahmadis is simply mind-boggling. It is simply a grotesque form of modern-day apartheid. When the state itself discriminates against a section of its people and humiliates their religious icons, it takes discrimination to a whole new level.

Bilal | 14 years ago | Reply This is in reply to Mr Syed. A mateen's comment I am an Ahmadi and I believe that Hazrat Mohammad PBUH is the last Prophet! Now what do u have to say? Have you ever even tried to find out from authentic sources what Ahmadis truly believe in? The problem is that many of you believe what you have been told for decades. You never questioned it, never tried to find out the truth. Heard stuff and sealed it in your minds forever.. I suggest you open your mind for a while and find out the truth from authentic sources for once. And when you have done that, then we can have a discussion!

Shahryar Ahmed | 14 years ago | Reply Well said Ms. Laila well said..... In my opinion a good Muslim is one who's action does not hurt another human being. My question is, didn’t our Prophet (P.B.U.H) enquired about the women who use to throw rubbish on him whenever he use to pass beneath her house? And by his action (visiting her when she was sick) convinced her to covert into Islam? If he forgave & forgot her ill deeds against himself, then y r all worked about by all this blasphemy talk. Believe you me, it does not matter 4 a second in my heart & my believe in our Prophet (P.B.U.H) if any person acts or say against him. Yes I do get angry & hurt because of that but it does not put any doubt in my mind or heart for our Prophet or God (ALLAH). Shouldn’t our Faith be strong enuff to brush asides these negative sentiments about our religion & y cant v try to educate through knowledge & good deeds rather han violence against ppl who say or do such acts against Islam?

A for [pine]Apple | 14 years ago | Reply @ Malik Muhammad; The views of Ahmadi Muslims were never allowed in past few decades to get some space in the mainstream media but that doesn't mean that all the on-going terrorist attacks were never condemned by Ahmadis. I am an Ahmadi and I write on Islamabad Metblogs ... and in past few years you can find many posts written by me to air my anger for the on-going slaughter in my beloved country. Dont you dare challenge my patriotism. Every ahmadi, as a muslim, is taught to love their country and to be always ready to be on fore-front to sacrifice for our country when the need arises. You'll find various examples of such heroic acts from history too. You mentioned International Islamic University too .. that's my alma-matter and my heart equally bled when I heard of the brutal bombings there. Probably more than YOU can imagine. Ponder more deeply into matters ... sometimes face-values are fake .. specially when a community is persecuted to an extent that their voice fails to reach the main stream media. @Syed A Mateen: I wonder what kind of young ahmadis you've met. I havent had a chance to meet such a rarity in my life by the way. Alhamdolillah, with each passing generation, Allah has affirmed our beliefs and there is no confusion in our generation and no fear but that of Allah and Him alone. Alhamdolillah.

ISN | 14 years ago | Reply Putting our beliefs aside for this conversation... Ahmadis have consistently proven themselves to Pakistan and the world as a peaceful community for more than a century. They never return violence with violence, so to say that such bloody incident a conspiracy to favor them is simply an inconsistency in the line of thoughts. Repealing the blasphemy law against Ahmadis and protecting the minority are consistent with human rights and the Islamic teachings. So for these anti-Ahmadi mullahs to support the blasphemy law is a clear inconsistency in their line of beliefs. --- There is truth in consistency and vice versa. Peace.

Hasan | 14 years ago | Reply > It will be better for the Ahmadis not > to call themselves Muslims. In 21st century you don't tell people what they can call themselves. Any apartheid laws that contravene Universal Declaration of Human Rights to which Pakistan is a signatory must be repealed forthwith and dark age mindset must be left behind if Pakistan is to take its rightful position among civilized nations.

Salma Ahmad | 14 years ago | Reply This statement only proves that these mullahs are a menace to society. Their sentiments get hurt very easily and no opportunity is wasted by them to spew hatred for others religious beliefs. These mullahs are worse than the terrorists...They readily use Islam to promote their interests and refrain not from preaching hate to others. I think the government should not be afraid of them....for once!

Kashif | 14 years ago | Reply @ Pervaiz: Learn the translation of the Kalima. No where is 'last' mentioned. Otherwise you got it right. Kalima is a requirement of faith and that all Ahmadi Muslims believe in. Mullahs need to return to the Islam of Muhammad [pbuh] which was one of peace and love, not hate and prejudice.

freedom | 14 years ago | Reply LOVE for ALL, HATRED for NONE Quran teachs us Muslims: that to kill a man is like killing a whole mankind!! HOW can any muslim think that he will get in Paradis if he Kills anyone??? Thats not ISLAM!!!

Samar Malik | 14 years ago | Reply Why you can not seperate religion and state? If somebody abuses any Prophet of God, is it a reason to kill him? This is only a problem between that Person and God! It is not on anybody to decide if somebody is a believer or not. Thats why pakistan is getting destroyed by this radical Mullahs who have no plan of religion they just use religion for their political interessts and affairs. And @ everybody, Go and inform yourself about Ahmadiyya Community and read the books etc on alislam.org and dont believe the mullahs who just use islam for their own interests!

Hasan | 14 years ago | Reply > Whatever the conspiracy Ahmadis make to repeal the laws, @Syed A. Mateen: There is no conspiracy from Ahmadis. The captured perpetrated has accepted his links with Lashkar-er-Jhangvi and training from Taliban. If this is conspiracy it's from somewhere else viz the Taliban and their supporters.

Hasan | 14 years ago | Reply @Malik Muhammad Umer Hayat Chheena: Ahmadis condemned all incidents of terrorism and all terrorist organisations but their views are never allowed in the mainstream media. Consider for example the Point Blank which included an Ahmadi representative for the first time, the programme was not allowed to be repeated. End of story. If you need to hear Ahmadi point of view, you need to get them on mainstream media contrary to the wishes of the religious bigots.

Malik Muhammad Umer Hayat Chheena | 14 years ago | Reply @ Syed A Mateen, i am hundred percent d'accord with you. there is no ambiguity in your thoughts. I respect Ahmedis simply as Pakistanis and according to Pakistan's Parliament decision they are non-muslim/cannot call themselves muslim. We tolerate everyone and each minority. In my other comments and writings everywhere i have said about it. Yet i have a simple question that have any Qadiani/Ahmedi/Lahori etc stood or spoken against killings in every part of Pakistan. Have any Ahmedi called the incident of Nishter Park Karachi as discrimination against a sect or Muslims or Pakistan? Have any ahmedi stood/spoken against any of the event like incident of International Islamic UNiversity, Islamabad? Have any Ahmedi spoken against the series of Muslims killed in Pakhtoon Khaw and Punjab? NEVER. No even a single statement. Muhammad Umer Hayat Chheena

Fowad Khan | 14 years ago | Reply Killing of any innocent human being is not allowed in Islam PERIOD! If you don't believe in Makki Madni Khataman Nabiyeen Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) you are not a Muslim PERIOD!

Laila | 14 years ago | Reply Dear Mullahs and also all people who think Ahmady Jammat needs to be punished by YOU for denying Khatm-e- Nabuwat, if Ahmadies are sinning by claiming this, then they are sinning against their own souls. But you my dears should get over it, they( Ahmadies) are humans( thus Allahs creation) first and Ahmadi second. Shame on you for staining Islam in the world. Dont you know that the silly and irrational things you say are printed in world wide media.And dont you know that many people assiociate only terrorism, poverty, women suppresion and illetracy with Pakistan. Come on focus on solving the REAL problems in Pakitsan, instead of diverting attenion by using religion as proxy. I dont know what Im more ashamed of, that I m a Muslim or Pakistani.

Syed A. Mateen | 14 years ago | Reply Ahmadi’s have been declared non-Muslims by the government of Pakistan as they do not believe that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last prophet of Muslims and have made amendments thereafter. Any one who does not believe that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last Prophet cannot be called as a Muslim. Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif is a Muslim; therefore Ahmadis cannot be brothers of Muslims in any way. Anyone who tries to alter Islam according to his or her personal believes is considered to be a person who does not fall within the ambit of Islam. The message of Al-Mighty Allah and His Holy Book “Quran” and the message of last Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are quite clear and straight and there is no ambiguity in it. It will be better for the Ahmadis not to call themselves Muslims. If they want to be called as Muslims than they have to change their faith and believes according to the real teachings of Islam and must admit that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last Prophet, Al-Mighty Allah had sent in this world. Whatever the conspiracy Ahmadis make to repeal the laws, they cannot repeal the blasphemy laws against them unless they come on the right track. The young Ahmadis around the world have started thinking differently. They are of the opinion that whatever the faith and believes their forefathers have carried up till now of Ahmadis is wrong but they cannot change their faith and believe due to the fear of their elders, as they will be thrown out from Ahmadi community.

Ali Haider | 14 years ago | Reply The moulvis will do anything to keep their own ego up. We should not be worried about other's preaching their religion as long as we set a good example of being Muslims and attract people to Islam. Thanks to our moulvis, we have not set a good example, and these moulvis are now afraid that muslims will convert to ahmadiat. It is a shame for our moulvis...

Manahil | 14 years ago | Reply A hundred people were killed while praying due to these so-called islamist's own propoganda of terming Ahmadis as 'wajib-ul-qatl' and inciting people in Madrassahs to kill them in order to attain felicity, and now they call it a conspiricy? Who's conspiring , We all know.

Syed | 14 years ago | Reply As an Ahmadi let me state our belief: We believe in on God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad (sw)) as Khatam-un-Nabyeen. For these religious parties we still remain Non-Muslims.

Syed Nadir El Edroos | 14 years ago | Reply Ahmadis is being used to create suspicions about the concept of Khatm-e-Nabuwat i.e. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) being the last prophet. They people making these statements are the only one who seem to be offering conspiracy theories! I as a citizen of Pakistan, am appalled that the death of a nearly 100 people is being justified or explained away as a matter of national or religious interest.

ArsalanKh | 14 years ago | Reply Around 100 people died and these people can't condemn it but saying its a conspiracy? Those terrorists who were caught on scene by Ahmadis, They belong to the same category of muslims which this so called committee belong. Its very important to repeal 2nd amendment and finish discrimination with the minority.

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