Pakistani flood-displaced boy Babir Ali looks on by the tents at a college converted to a camp by the army. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
Pakistan ranked number 12 on a list of the “most failed states”, according to an annual report published in the Foreign Policy* magazine on Tuesday.
The report titled “The Failed States Index 2011” compiles a list of countries in terms of vulnerability. From refugee flows to poverty, public services to security threats, the list takes together a country’s performance on this battery of indicators to reflect its stability.
In both 2009 and 2010, Pakistan took the number 10 spot on this index, whereas in 2008 it was ranked number nine.
Amongst Pakistan’s neighbouring states, Afghanistan ranks 7 while Iran ranks 35. FP magazine states that these countries are on ‘alert’.
Bangladesh ranks 25, and Sri Lanka is 29 on this list.
China ranks 72, whereas India ranks 76 on the list. These countries are considered to be in the ‘moderate’ zone for vulnerability.
The US ranks 158, while the UK ranks 159.
The 2011 report states that Pakistan has long been dubbed the “world’s most dangerous country” in Washington policy circles. The report states:
Tick off any checklist of US national security concerns, and Pakistan has them all: nuclear weapons, terrorist and insurgent groups galore, and rampant anti-American sentiment. Add to all this a volatile political system, and it’s no wonder that Pakistan preoccupies so many Western security analysts.
The report adds that Pakistan is not just dangerous for the West – it’s often a danger to its own people.
It also states that the cultivation of militant groups by the Pakistani military and intelligence services – which the report states is a counterweight to India and a source of “strategic depth” in Afghanistan – has turned Pakistan into a “cockpit of terrorist violence”.
It adds that the country’s military leaders have made a “strategic” decision to allow the Pahstuns to govern themselves in what the report calls “ungoverned spaces” in the Pahstun-dominated badlands along the Afghanistan border.
The report cites terrorism and civilian deaths as one major reason for Pakistan’s position, adding that the 2010 floods displaced millions of people, adding to the instability of the country.
The top 20 failed states on this index are:
*Foreign Policy is a bimonthly American magazine founded in 1970.
The complete list can be viewed here.
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We should come out of our delusions of grandeur! The global powers dont even know where is PakistanRecommend
A failed state ought not be able to develop a nuke !Recommend
Congratulations! We will strive to reach the top. Inshallah we will reach the top very soon.Recommend
No worries we will be top on the charts like corruption. Thanks to PPP.Recommend
Are we not going to ask where are Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka or India on this list?Recommend
What a shame, I feel sad for my country but I cant do anything about it because no one will let me.Recommend
Special thanks to PPP/PML for getting us where we are today. Your unflinching dedication has made this country one of the top contenders for becoming a failed state. If only we can give you one more term in the office, I’m pretty sure we’d be sitting at the number one spot.Recommend
Pakistan is ranked lower than Burma and Yemen! My God!
FYI, the article fails to mention that India is ranked 76th!! And, the 2 countries were born together, Pakistan a day earlier.
Even Bangladesh which was born only 4 decades ago is at 25.
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What a shame for the nations above Pakistan in this list.Recommend
Another observation apart from the comment I posted above(Hoping that comment will be approved, of course).
India is surrounded by Countries who are in the top 30 Failed Countries list, except with the exception of China. It ranks higher than China on this account.
So India is doing something right on many accounts than most of these Countries. Pakistan can learn a lesson from India with regard to this.Recommend
@Mirza:
Come out of delusion dear and stop living in self denial to realities.Recommend
Pakistan moves out of the Top 10 —
Does this mean situation in Pakistan is improving or other states are doing worse ?Recommend
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India – 76
China – 72
Iran – 35
Sri Lanka – 29
Nepal – 27
Bangladesh (Formerly East Pakistan) – 25
Who is the volatile neighbor for all those countries above ?Recommend
Slap in the face of India !!
They were not found fit to be included in this list !!!Recommend
10 to 12, 12 to 14, 14 to 16, 16 to 18, 18 to 20…and finally in 2047 last place on the list..Recommend
I would say, 12th most failed army instead. Times has announced us the bravest nation on earth which is another perspective. These ranking magazines are wasting time on such researches. This is to demote the economy of a country.Recommend
Question is who failed them?Recommend
A very unrealistic list that uses a criteria where only selected parameters are used while ground realities are ignored….case in point is Greece and Belgium…both may sound very stable from the outlook of these indexes but in reality are perhaps as unstable as Somalia or Afghanistan or perhaps even more. And these two countries have been so not for past few days but for past few years….so need to look into such assessments very carefullyRecommend
@ Ashok
If you are Implying Pakistan, Please note that Pakistan does not neighbor Sri Lanka, Nepal, Nor Bangladesh. In Fact, more of the lowers ranked countries in the region border India than any other other country. What would that suggest? Recommend
Basis aim of such reports is to defame Pakistan internationally. And they are doing it very well. For me Pakistan is not a Failed state but a mis-managed state. Recommend
@malik:
Are you in your senses?? Please try to understand the artical..and meaning of appearing top on this kind of failed state lists. Recommend
This cant get any worse, if there was a list of most unfortunate states, Pakistan would be on top.Recommend
The report is unfair as it places China at 72 while India is at 76. This report is politically motivated. India is nothing compared to China. Recommend
Stupid criterion … If people have antiUS sentiments and if Pakistan checked all ticks of US security concerns how could it be considered as a failed state :S ..
more then 40 Countries invade Iraq first, did genocide and now declared as failed state .. same goes with Somalia Sudan too ..
What about Portugal and Greece .. they are not failed state because they are in Europe .. ???? Recommend
Foreign media is expert in manipulating the facts. Instead of under estimating themselves we should question the credibility of this report. No one know the parameters of this grading. We should kept in mind that that we are in stat of war on dual front. I am sure our premature media will bring a storm in team cup on this report without any authentication or verification :). It does not mean at all that we are a very well governed country ans credit does to Mr. Asif Ali Zardari & PPP lead government. In fact this Government is making history in mismanagement and corruption which allow such type of magazines to defame our country. Recommend
Good,
But why 12th, why not 1st? We are first in corruption, first in terrorism, 1st in injustice, 1st in jobless. This govt must utilize its experienced leaders to make us 1st in FAILED STATES..
Our so-called democratic govt is trying its best…..Recommend
I find nothing true about this report or Pakistan being at 12. I go outside and I find it nothing less than amusement how the vast majority of this country is still enjoying the luxuries of the life. You go to any market, any shopping mall and people are buying, buying and just buying stuff. No havoc,no suicide attack, no bomb blast has ever prompted people to stay in their homes. The restaurants, the banquet halls, the concert halls, the cinemas are still full of people, in fact overcrowded despite of all this ‘poverty’ or ‘security threats’. Hundreds of thousand of new cars make their ways on the roads every where.The towns are expanding. DHA’s, Bahria’s, Askari’s and every other such scheme is expanding like the bank balance of the President of this country. Millions have been Internally displaced because of terrorism and floods yet everything seemed to have settled down. Initially there used to be an hour’s load shedding, now it has reached to as many as 12 hours a day in cities. What to talk of villages. Yet no one cares. No one gives a damn. People are still eating everywhere. still buying stuff. still buying cars, generators, petrol, Air conditioners and all the other luxurious items.
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This failed state recently helped Sri Lanka rid of Indian and US (Using Raj Rajaratnam) backed Tamil terrorists.Recommend
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We are a failed state and we are the Nuclear power, we are failed state but yet we have the fifth largest army in the world, we also have the largest irrigation system in the world, we too generate the highest amount of Zakat fund if you compare with other rich muslim countries.We are the 2nd largest producers of Buffalo Milk 3rd Largest Producers of Apricot and chickpea and 4th largest producers of Cotton.We have won 4 World Cups in Hockey and One in Cricket and if we talk about squash Jhansher khan won 8 world open and on the other hand Jehangir khan won 6 world open title.
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Totally unfair ! This is prejudice of the worst kind !!
No country deserved the No.1 position more than Pakistan !!! This is a conspiracy by RAW/CIA and MOSSAD to deny first place to Pakistan and instead place it in 12th position.Recommend
We are positioned at number 12 because of Jew and Indian lobby otherwise we should have been placed number one. Recommend
Being a Pakistani i still don’t understand why people are more concern about India rather than their own country, India is far ahead of us.
The real problems are our corrupt leaders and I am afraid that if the same regime continues to rule the country than we are not far away from getting the number one slot.Recommend
The romance of denial would never let us understand and convict that we are almost doomed. Even if the neighboring states are close by in the list, does it justify to remain on the position we are? Let’s not even blame one political party let it be PPP because around 60% of or resources are in Punjab and that is being governed by N-league.
Nukes!! they have given us nothing but more insecurity. This is the only bomb in the world that rather than safeguarding us being itself safeguard by us. Irony, isn’t it?Recommend
@Indian: on malik
He wrote it in sargastic sense.Recommend
Nothin’ to feel sab over these rating, since this all based on ”biasness”. Do they have got any evidence to prove India at 76th rank, can they justify it?
Certainly no, it is all international conspiracy to grant the ‘steeering’ of this region in the hands of india. Multiple curses are hitting the people of India; poverty, racial biasness, seperation movements, and lot more.
Nothing is bad in Pkaistan excert politics……………………Recommend
10th to 12th? im impressed… should have been the other way around… Recommend
@Mirza:
Bangladesh at 25, Nepal at 27 , Srilanka at 29 while India is not in the list of top 60Recommend
you have one year to be first on the list.. work hard..all the best.Recommend
Pakistan’s Kashmir obsession has brought it here. Make no mistake about it. And the irony is that it is no closer to forcing India to giv up Kashmir than it was 60 years agoRecommend
@Khawar Sher:
Ha ha….you think that Pak “DEVELOPED A NUKE” They BOUGHT the technology….lol How dilusional can yuo be. These damned text books need to be burnedRecommend
@Sohaib:
Salaam Sohaib miyan, i think terrorism, religious extermism arent part of your list ?Recommend
@Raja : China has just made quike money by doing cheap exports and reverse engineering in some areas by coping from west. It still needs to walk long mile on other fronts for truly becoming a developed state.Recommend
@malik:
What the hell…lol you cannot even read this SHORT article!!!!! “whereas India ranks 76 on the list” Damnit….and what is scarier is the fact that you are not even the only one to make this comment!!!! No WONDER….when this is an example of the average intelligence in this country….cannot even read a short aticle and have to blabber and throw out comments about others…..how PITIFUL! Pakistan deserves this ranking….because it is SOOOOOO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Recommend
@Sunny Deol Pakistani:
Their own people failed them. Until Pakistan stops putting their hand out and begging and cleans up this place they deserve what they get.Recommend
The ranking really reflects on the leadership of this country, than anything else. I am surprised that they have managed to be above 11 other countries. We knew it from the day PPP got into power, that the leadership is corrupt and will be a dismal failure. It has turned out to be a dismal failure. So why would anyone be surprised to see the reflection of the leadership at the bottom of the ladder. This is exactly how the leadership is. Right at the bottom. Recommend
There is no denying that Pakistan is in bad shape. This is because of many factors, the biggest being the faliure of leadership. But this listing is flawed as well, just look at the criterion for the listing and you will know what I mean.
Again, Indian trolls leave no stone unturned for throwing crap at Pakistan, then they try to assure the readers on these pages that they have no ill intentions! Rubbish! Recommend
@UMAIR:
Mismanaged = Failed
Stop trying to sugar coat it and bury your head in the sand. Who is responsible for the mismanagement???? The rest of the world? India? America? Who? Who dictates policy and allows extreemism to grow rampant and unchecked? Who looks the other way when a man beats a woman or a child is raped? WHO????? Pakistani’s that’s WHO! Take responsibilty and stop acting like children. If Pakistan wants to be taken seriously they need to ACT like adults. NOT whining children who blame someone else for everything wrong. Recommend
@malik:
Yes ! Congrats to you, for being on this ! May you and your people be proud of your position on this list, Just have a look at your Competitors on this List, glad its you and not anyone of significance !!!!
If you still have’nt got the Message, then may i suggest that you are on this List for all the wrong reasons !!!!
If you make it to Number 1 on this List then you have really hit the Jackpot and the Mullahs will be in Presidency In Islamabad.Recommend
Still there 12 nations “above” us. Can we appoint a commission to study how we can reach the No.1 spot by next year? This looks much easier than getting No.1 ranking in test cricket?Recommend
@Khawar Sher:
A Failed State has only got Nukes due to theft of technology from europe, and the main reason for being on this list is that the resources that should have been used to develop the nation were squandered on building nukes!!! Shame that they can’t feed the People!Recommend
Controversy against Pakistan this document is developed by the Americans Policy makers. America is Number 1 state in criminal activities.Recommend
@Raja: Don’t over estimate China !! They also have lot of lapses.Recommend
@A.Khan:
Which Economy are you talking about?? One that is dependant on AID and LOANS!!!!Recommend
@Zubair:
The defination of Failed State is just not based on Economy alone , it consists of Safety & Security too, add Law & Order to it for good helping also !!!
Lastly a fair measure of Governance too!!!Recommend
didn’t surprise me at all … one of the achievements of the current democratic system which they will mention in their next election manifesto …. what they had done previously and people will still vote them …. all stakeholders are responsible including opposition that were sacrificing all the developments for just streamlining of the democracy…. i wonder if this country be eaten by all these politicians and our defense intuitions by giving chances to all political parties one by one and by that time Pakistan no longer exist ….. Recommend
@Tariq:
Well it seems some of your fellow countrymen are crying out loud about not being Number 1 on this List!!!!Recommend
@Shahrukh kazmi:
Do you remember USSR??
History can be guide to shape nation’s future. But Pakistan is on path of changing history itself. Future is only thing they dont care about….Recommend
Does anyone else find it funny that while the report specifically stated that Pakistan’s Army and Intelligence services are behind Pakistan’s downfall, ‘people’ here are actually blaming the civilian government. Guys, the government would be lucky to be allowed to make one policy decision a year by the khakis!! Recommend
Stupid Generals and Corrupt Politicians are responsible for this. In coming yrs hundreds of thousands of new kids will be coming out for jobs bit there are no jobs, guess what will happen then?
The state has lost the basic concept of its existence, it has now become a parasite living on our blood.
This failed system needsbto be changed.Recommend
@Moise:
It’s time to stop flattering yourself. SL did it all by themselves due to no help from you guys. We all know what happens when your military sticks its nose into something. Recommend
Ohh damn, we failed to secure 1st position, sorry world we are little behind, but worry not next year we’ll beat you!Recommend
Why does it have to be India vs Pakistan always.Pakistan is at 12th position now 2 positions better then previously.As for China being behind India HR practices of China and general transparency in it’s dealing lead these kinda ratings. Recommend
No State is a failed State.They are actually struggling states.Don’t fall to the so called intellectuals of west, who have nothing to do except making new bombs and creating word/excel reports.If Pak is a fail state why don’t America ask Canada for help in Afghanistan.Don’t get down, get up and stand tall.Recommend
Gilani, Kayani, Haqqani are RAW MOSSAD agents who are taking Pakistan to stone ageRecommend
Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Burma and Sri Lanka……
India is the ONLY country in the world that is surrounded by ONLY Failed States on all its sides !!Recommend
Who fails passes the states.Beyond all predictions and fore tellings Pakistan stands like a sold rock.How a state with nuclear capabilities,can be called a fail state.Who will check the credentials of the people calling Pakistan a fail state.What are the yard sticks.The people who call Pakistan a fail state are the day dreamers.Recommend
@Zubair:
Portugal and Greece not being failed states has nothing to do with them being in Europe. Portugal and Greece may have economic problems, they may even have failing economies, but they are proper secular democracies with functioning institutions and rule of law. In other words they are a world away from failed states like Pakistan and Afghanistan where the only law is that of the jungle.Recommend
@3footninja:
Not really. Thank the Pakistan Army.Recommend
Ohh sorry, we failed to secure 1st position =(
But worry not mates, we are coming to challenge you at 1st position, we are little behind. We are gonna put more ingredients – corruption, income inequality, social distortion, poverty, unemployment, terrorism and sectarian – I bet you, we’ll be at first!Recommend
@Moise:
If you check old newspaper clippings you will find that Sri Lanka has accused Pakistan of interfering in its internal affairs quite a few times. It has also accused us of supplying arms to the Tamils in the past. They have never acknowledged any positive support which you have been talking about.Recommend
These all reports have an aim to misguide the world. It does not have any aim except to defame and to damage the image of Pakistan before the whole world. Pakistan is the first Islamic country which has achieved the title of atomic power. How may is possible that an Islamic nation of the third world could achieve the capability of atomic technology. All such types of efforts have the same target, whether by publishing that fake reports or by supporting ans using terrorist factors.Recommend
I wonder why all the sources of reference have to be US or European analyst…of course the govts there don’t like us…one major reason being that they don’t want to see a select few of their true ‘strategically’ important allies to be nuclear powers.
A nuclear armed Pakistan just does not fall well into their analysis which takes sucess as a measure of how conveniently they can bomb, invade or oppress nations around the world. I’m sure the western analyst are very uncomfortable with a muslim country with an independednt nuclear aresenal with strong links to middle east, central and south asia….
One easy way for improving our ranking would be to give up on our nuclear weapons and blindly tow american policy….
I’m of course not saying that we don’t have major problems but only if this war and invasion were to end, we would see some normalcy and progress we can as we made Pakistan from scratch.
And then we would be indifferent about such ratings and rankings….Recommend
Slap in the face of those that still prophesize “sovereignty” over prosperity. Slap on the face of those Ghairatmand Platoon ( or is it brigade) who want to slam the door shut on all those that are feeding our ailing economy.
I suspect that the only reason we are not on the top of the list is because of the US and IMF aid… Just think about it. If you take away the aid from the hand that feeds us ( but we would love to bite it anyway) then we wont be able to keep the economy going even for a few months. For those that shout off the top of their lungs to banish USA from Pakistan soil, they must remember that without that aid, we will be history so thank your lucky stars and Uncle Sam..
North Korea does not get any aid and yet is just next to Pakistan on that list. Pakistan is effectively a failed state where the establishment, politicians and majority of the masses are sleep walking to their way to the oblivion.
Long live the armed forces of Pakistan and its deep throat. Without you, we would be a far prosperous country like some of our neighbours..
A collective shame for the nation..
Aitum bum zindabad.. Amreeka murdabad.. The land of the pure and fanatics..!!
Haris ChaudhryRecommend
If u rely on violence and religion for state objectives, this is what happens. Brothers, no need to lose heart. You wont reach no 1 and aim to do better incrementally . Good luck.Recommend
@malik:
Slap in the face of India !!
They were not found fit to be included in this list !!!
As an Indian I am devastated. In spite of such strong & friendly (brotherly?) support from our biggest South Asian neighbour, we have again failed to make it to this coveted and exclusive fraternity.Recommend
With so many comments about the poor ranking of Pakistan being a failed state, it sounds a bit strange to say otherwise. However, in my opinion, Pakistan is not a failed state but as a nation we have failed miserably. fault lies with us and us alone! Had we struggled to bring people of having excellence in knowledge, skills,contributions, honesty, credibility and devoted leadership, If we are destined to have leaders and institutions otherwise, we are responsible because we just talk but we are not willing to do right things when opportunity comes to change things for better. Either we do not vote and if we do vote; we vote for selfish reasons only. You reap only that material that we plant; don’t expect miracles.
Had we set system right and worked hard to build this country, Pakistan’s would have been termed as California of Asia instead of being dubbed as Somalia of Asia. Pakistan and Israel came on the world screen almost at the same time; Israel made desert to flourish fruits and vegetables for export and we made the most fertile land of Pakistan to flourish and grow suicide bombers to the local and foreign markets. The fact is that we have failed Pakistan as we believe in short-cuts to be rich over-night without making any efforts what-so-ever. We talk all abstract things and we have never tried to be a nation and result is quite obvious. Recommend
we have improved and moved out of top 10.
Good achievement but need to compete with india and come in 50′s in next few yearsRecommend
democracy is the best revenge yay they taking revenge from the nation go zardari go zardari ab achar daalo is democracay ka!!!!!!!!!!Recommend
@Raja:
Mr. A Raja stop doing this. we don’t know why every Pakistani worship China and always prefer china as a blanket to cover Pakistan’s weaknesses.Recommend
@hassan:
That is exactly the reason that India makes its business to keep an Eye on them and ensure that the Borders are managed and maintained too!!!Recommend
@kazi jawed akhter:
Here is the link which you really need to read in order for some good dose of enlightenment!!
Then tell me as to who is day dreaming?
When you read this pls ensure you are actually out of that little Cocoon of Denials too!
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/06/20/thebrutaltruthRecommend
Well, this isn’t exactly news..Recommend
Pakistan is not a failed state. The report is politically motivated. India is as much a failed state as Pakistan. They have the highest number of poor in the world. There are countless independence movements in India and some of these might actually become successful. Recommend
I have a humble request to Tribune – to pls make sure they censor comments of people – its a news paper or a facebook page? All these things add to the country being perceived as it is already in a negative state – its not a blogging website, its a news website isnt it? I cannot understand how informal language, slang, racist remarks are published on the website and the website used for personal attacks on ech others comments – please make sure the media had the responsibility in censoring what is inapproriate – just by merely adding a disclaimer at the end by not bearing any responsibility of any comments really responsible media?Recommend
Pakistan is improving, i am hopeful. Future is very bright for Pakistan and world we see it at the top.Recommend
@bulbul: Try before saying so!Recommend
@QuranVsHadith
For me there is difference in being failed and being mis-managed. why we are mis-managed because we are resourceful and acquire all the basic necessities for existing in this modern age. why we are not failed state because if we get right (well-managed) direction and wake up as soon as possible then we can get over the current crisis in a couple of year.
while agreeing with some of your points i must add that we are leading towads failure but not a failed state.Recommend
Well to my Indian friends especially…
1. please be patient and see that this list is published by a US authority and they see this list from a US perspective.
2. I have been to at least 5 countries in the top 20 list and trust me things are not as bad as they are depicted here
3. PK’s promotion in the list is primarily because of being a Nuclear state
4. Where is Libya & Syria in the top 20
5. Where are the dictatorship / kingdoms in the list and we all know how they tumble down when the wrong things happen
6. THis list is usually updated on the basis of US’s foreign policy every now and then and also used as pressure tactics
7. On the comment of Ashok on ‘volatile neighbor’ let me say that whatever fuss we have in SEA, it is thanks to our neighbor, IndiaRecommend
Pakistan has been claimed as a ‘failed state’ since Nehru, and India in the 80s/90s, when Naxalites/Khalistan insurgencies were at their peak. The latter, thanks to sound economic policy, is not viewed as such (I talked of India as our friendly neighbours are getting over-excited)
So even if some Western pandits put Pakistan at n°1, it’s not a determinism: just get rid of these incapable leaders.Recommend
lol, who has seen the whole map ? There are just 7-8 (White) countries claimed as being ‘sustainable’ states, right ? =DRecommend
Some of Pakistan’s recent accomplishments:
No. 3 on list of most dangerous for women
No. 4 on list of most corrupt
No. 12 on list of failed states
No. 10 on list of deadliest for journalists
All credit to those who are part of the establishment Recommend
@asim:
Forget India , if i were you i would be very worried about my own Yard!!! Why are you actually worried about India?
Leave them to their devices and why are you not at all concerned about your own country??
This is the Problem with the country and its people too!!
It is your country and you are not worried about it !! You people have got too used to blaming everyone but yourselves and been too dependant on Foreign Aid too!
Is it any wonder that your Nation is known as Global Begger!!!!
Where is your Honour Brigade ?Recommend
not to worry bros,very soon india will also be in top 10 when we conquer them and broadcast pakistan radio from new delhi.remember ghazwa e hind has been prophesied.then we will march west and capture israel and liberate our palestinian brothers.
yours truly,
General Zaid Hamid.Recommend
@Khawar Sher:
Exactly, but they ought to be able to steel it.Recommend
Are we supposed to believe this crap vomited by western personals??Recommend
@Amer Khan: You said “On the comment of Ashok on ‘volatile neighbor’ let me say that whatever fuss we have in SEA, it is thanks to our neighbor, India” Are you still giving credit to India for your all problems? Please continue doing this. One day your entire country loose power of introspection. That day you be No 1 in the failed state list. I think you want to achieve the No 1 status right? Recommend
Another curious point: most of the failed states seem to have one thing in common….Islam…did anyone notice that?Recommend
It is amazing that Pakistanis state that having nuclear weapons is a reason for not being a failed state. North Korea has nuclear weapons. How many Pakistanis on this forum agree that IT IS NOT a failed state? Probably none.Recommend
This blob of news and related news headline on ET says it all….
Pakistan ranks 12th on failed states index: Report
Pakistan ranks 3rd on list of most dangerous countries for women
Pakistan 10th on list of deadliest places for journalists: Report
Where is the leadership to smell the coffee and get us out of this mess?Recommend
This because of involvement in US’s unnecessary war on terrorism. Pakistan has paid much more in this US’s war. I totally disagree with arguments that Pakistan will top the list. If we could develop better relationship with Afghanistan and Iran, Pakistan will go down the list rapidly. In fact, our neighboring India is funding Afghan warriors and some of tribesman in our tribal areas and Baluchistan to destabilize the country. But, her days have been counted down. The game will change soon. Although US is not interested in giving any role to Pakistan in Afghanistan, but the brotherhood between the people of both countries can not be reduced. The people of both sides will be the winner in the end.Recommend
i am not a bit setisfied with foriegn lists and results regarding my sweet home. I just think this is a policy to include Pakistan in the most deadliest zones and to capture our Nuclear. Thats itRecommend
in what based they tells this on debt then america is no1 right now on think tank talks
so thats all day lies what other base maybe probeganda.baseRecommend
All credit must go to the Military / Mullah alliance for making a promising country into a haven for terrorists. When there are so many guns(legal and illegal) loosely floating around, rivers of blood are bound to flow. “Religion is the opium of the masses”. The citizens senses have become so dull with the overdose that they are no longer demanding their basic rights of clean air, food, shelter and justice. Now poor people think India, America, Israel are the reason for all their misfortunes, such is the power of propaganda. Without US Aid the country has the potential to climb quickly to TOP position. Recommend
@Babar:
Why u used Inshallah for this……not good man . Youth are the future of this country and we have to save this country….Recommend
These are totally biased reports…China has empowered world market more than india..still their ranks can tell you on what basis these reports have been written…i would say “bounded rationality” Funny thing is everyday we are seeing a new article defaming Pakistan only…i dont think person who wrote this know the meaning of FAILED… Pakistaniz are living their life with all luxuries..besides some culprits dont want them to have it..thats why exagerrating stuff related to Pakistan…and yeah how can they even write something related to counties where they have put their lots of investment..e.g IndiaRecommend
A major achivement of GHQ/ISI and their policies of Strategic Depth. Well done !!!!Recommend
@Hedgefunder:
What are you talking about? India and Indians hate us and will do everything in their power to destroy my country. We have to answer their rants.
The condition of the masses in Pakistan is much better than the poor and hungry Indians. The streets and roads are in a better condition than the Indian roads and Pakistan is much cleaner.
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@Indian:
Bro what does dark humour have to do for you to get it? Only reinforces the stereotype that we Indians have a chip on our shoulder and do not have a sense of humour. Recommend
we are listening such rubbish reports from last four years that very soon Pakistan is going to disintegrate but all these report could not prove its worth. We are a nation of 180 million people with strong religious relationship. Nothing is going to happen with this country Western and USA media is making such rubbish reports.Recommend
Is there ONE person in pakistan who is ready to take the blame.
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@hassan:
because India is busy in making sure that its neighbours fail through RAW, Negative politics, water theft and malice filled planning…
bye the way it is vikram or ashwin or malhotra but you are certainly not hassanRecommend
@johnny_bravo:
doesn’t it look like a planned media war against state of Pakistan…???????Recommend
Any news on Internet is regularly polluted by impotent Indians who need their daily dose of Pakistan-bashing.Recommend
@Zeeeee:
Pakistan is an islamic republic. Hence inshallah before everything, inshallah after everything. Leave the youth talk for secular countries. In this country everything starts and ends with islam. Hence Inshallah. Q.E.D.Recommend
@asim:
Which conditions of masses are you talking about, that is better than in India??
The one’s who are robbing your nation , and can not even provide you basic energy, education, heatlhcare Etc…..
Have ever been to India to know the Facts as to the 300-350 million Middle Class population, whose lifestyle is no different than in any western countries if not better!!!
Go back to School, and do some some serious Googling to understand how the world has moved on, while you still live in your cocoon!!!Recommend
We do hate some pakistanis but only those who intend to harm us.
Coming from same land that stands divided now, I believe a normal average pakistani also don’t hate us. Recommend
@Mirza:
Read the article carefully my friendRecommend
@rashid:
If this is the fault of democracy then Pakistan should have been not even in this list, as it is ruled more by the army and much less by democracy. You logic that it is the fault of democracy in Pakistan is the same as some hater of Islam would say that it is the fault of Islam and not of the people of Pakistan. To support this they give the examples of democratic countries are better in every sense than religious and Muslim countries.
Please do not blame the failure of a few to democracy, independence or free society. It is the corrupt and evil mindset that is responsible. If there were true democracy in Pakistan, OBL would not be living there. In fact he was living and settled during Mush’s military rule. Demand truth and not secret talks by the army about the presence of OBL. Lie is the mother of all evils as Islam teaches. However, getting the truth out in Pakistan is like pulling out the teeth. To hide the truth their attack dogs would call you names and agents of foreing powers. Lie, refute, excuses and conspiracy theories are the only answer one gets from the failure of the army, which consumes most resources. Pakistan’s slide is not not recent, it is an ongoing process. The only things that has not changed is the mindset and mullah/military alliance. The puppet leaders come and go but this alliance remains intact. Recommend
anti american = high on the american compiled failed index list.
india = kiss american feet therefore not considered failed stateRecommend
@3footninja:
It looks like Pak was in 9th place in 2007 when Musharraf left Then it came to 10th place in 2008 and 2009 and finally it is now out of the top 10 list. So in fact there has been improvement under the civilian rule.Recommend
putting china an iran below india considering tht people living in these countries live a much more happier and better life than ordnary indians!!!explains the biased reporting by foreign policy magazine!!!so called supporters of democracyRecommend
@Khawar Sher: When state comes to collapse, it doesnot care where you have nukes or not…USSR is a great example for you dear.
Pakistan is getting weaker in its administrative capacity….who cares with security dimensions, when u have internal enemies…..
Pakistan has number of ungoverned spaces (Tribal areas), does Nukes make them govern…we have social issues…does nukes make to resolve all socio-economic crisis…
We need to be realist and honest with ourself..Recommend
Let us leave all sentiments apart, and do an objective analysis whether this ranking is fair to Pakistan.
Using the Foreign Policy Magazine’s own definition, a failed state is defined as:
“They are settings for the worst human rights abuses, the overwhelming source of the world’s refugees, and the places where most U.N. peacekeepers must go. Home to humanity’s “bottom billion,” they suffer low or negative economic growth, and their populations are more likely to be poor and malnourished; experience pervasive insecurity; endure gender discrimination; lack access to education, basic health care, and modern technology; and die young or suffer chronic illness.”
Is Pakistan….
Let us see that for Pakistan which of the components of the definition apply:
1. Settings for the worst human rights abuses: NO (While Pakistan has its cases of human rights violations, it is certainly not the WORST among them. Objectively it is no worse or better than, say, India or China.
2. The overwhelming source of the world’s refugees: NO (Pakistan in fact is providing home to the highest number of refugees in the world
3. The place where most U.N. peacekeepers must go: NO (Pakistan does not have a single UN peacekeeper. The UNMOGIP is an observer group, not a peacekeeper, on both sides of Kashmir border)
4. Suffer low or negative economic growth: NO (Pakistan has continued to grow its GDP positively throughout various crises. Post 9/11 Pakistan went through a 5 year period of growth averaging 7.5% GDP growth. The per capita GDP of Pakistan is the same as that of India, in spite of starting out at about 50% of it 64 years ago)
5. populations are more likely to be poor and malnourished: Partly YES (but again nothing compared to Sub-Saharan Africa, and not much different than India)
6. experience pervasive insecurity: YES (This one is undisputedly true at present)
7. endure gender discrimination: Partially YES (again it is there but not majorly different than India or others)
8. lack access to education, basic health care, and modern technology: NO (I know a lot of you will scream at this one. But the fact is that the basic healthcare, modern technology (especially mobile phones), and education are within reach of majority of Pakistanis)
9. die young or suffer chronic illness: NO (Pakistan has average lifespan of 67 years. Higher than India and many poor countries in the world. Does not suffer from a major chronic illness epidemic like AIDS etc)
So, you be the judge ! Is it fair or not. I say the ranking does not paint the right picture.Recommend
@UMAIR:
“…For me Pakistan is not a Failed state but a mis-managed state.”
Trust me it gives no joy to us Indians, but this kind of quibbling by Pakistanis is pointless. Yours has been recognized as a “FAILED” state precisely because it is a “mismanaged” state. That means only one thing: you have arrived!Recommend
The Chief Justice should take su motto case and appoint a judicial commission to find out the truth as to why Pakistan failed to get the first rank.Recommend
@xyz:
The world should open up the eyes. If India is neighbouring around all the failed states,
then isn’t this a country who should be held responsible for the regional blood shed.
People of the world, it was Indial ,who trained the most ruthless terrorist , who calle themselves the Tigers. And subsequently killed a prominent prime minister of India “Rajive Ghandi “. And it was India that instigated the thousand of bangladeshi nationals to be killed during the separation from Pakistan. And further more, their are thousand of armed terrorist in Kashmir.
All these are due to the under-hand work in the region.
So people of the world, open up your eyes and your brain and think that, who should be held responsible for aiding and abiding the regional unrest in south asia .
JRRecommend
@hassan:
“…India is the ONLY country in the world that is surrounded by ONLY Failed States on all its sides !!”
Imagine if that were not so, if all those “failed” states pulled their own weights and helped each other in the process, China would not have had even a prayer! Imagine!Recommend
There is nothing more to add to the sentiments expressed by most of the readers. Just, hope the people in power will take this serious, come out clean, and make this country and its people proud. Is it too much to ask for???Recommend
Though i hate the system, establishment, army etc but still i love my country and the people.Recommend
@Hedgefunder:
Feed the people? If allocation of $$ was used as a tool to measure rank on this list, God knows MANY other nations would have surpassed us, including India considering it has unparalleled levels of poverty and starving people, yet here we have a nation spending on ridiculous things like their space program, in hopes of some day making it to the moon….?? Pointing fingers at nation for irresponsible spending is a joke.
More to the point, Pakistan’s current situation is due to a number of factors, the main ones being crappy governing and leaders who don’t give a rat’s a$$ about the people of Pakistan or the nation’s future. Recommend
@Hedgefunder:
Hypocrisy thy name is Hedgefunder. You parade around spending countless hours telling Pakistanis to worry about Pakistan not India, on a Pakistani newspaper…. seems to me you have a similar problem of not leaving people or a country to their/its own devices. Don’t worry your pretty little head about what Pakistanis are doing. Cheers. Recommend
@Babar:
With all due respect, the integration of “Islam” into EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of Pakistan is part of the reason Pakistan is where it is today. And to dismiss the ‘youth talk’ for secular nations is absurd. This country depends on it’s future generations. Be a realist, not an idealist. Cheers. Recommend
@JR: My Dear Brother, Our question is about why We are at 12? What to be done to improve further? Not to talk about some one else.
I am asking my Child why he is not securing 1st rank. If he replies that Next door boy is also secured less rank than Next street boy, then will any one agree?
Don’t worry about others.. Let us improve on your own.. Our aim should be above than 30th rank by next year.. Not in worst 50 in next 2 years.. This is positive attitude.. Insallah will achieve the same..Recommend
@Extremely Tight Dhoti: You Indians never miss a beat do you. Don’t worry one day we’ll return the favour. As for Kashmir, you’ll see that only Kashmiris will determine their own future and the United Nations resolution where we can choose our own destiny will be implemented.Recommend
Dear all who responded to my post/question:
I am sorry, but my question was rhetorical and not serious. Was trying to be funny but failed I guess! Being a proud citizen of a failed nation, I failed even in making a joke!
Mirza, USARecommend
@Jawad U Rehman: Nice try buddy..
u just need 2 practice more,one day you’ll look like n educated person :)Recommend
@tungalahore: and let me guess you would know better about Indians happiness index, right ?Recommend
@Babar:
TOP, you mean number one position?Recommend
@Jawad U Rehman: “Post 9/11 Pakistan went through a 5 year period of growth averaging 7.5% GDP growth. The per capita GDP of Pakistan is the same as that of India” Please my humble and earnest request, prove this statement from any international reports otherwise stop living in denial and stop defending your sorry state with such fake figures and claims. As a concerned Indian I would be more glad if you guys prosper so that my idiotic mantri people stop diverting our money on arms and put rural development in full throttle.
Also I would not use this article to laugh at sorry state of Pakistan. It would be an act of lower minded person to pick on someone’s mis-fortune. But I look at India in this list , even though at 76 I wonder why we are in this list and what we could and should do to come out of it. That is how I will focus on improving certain social conditions to make country more progressive. Will it be insulting or unfair as an Indian to ask my Pakistani brother to have the same view about their ranking. Irrespective of what the rank is 1 or 100th , or how biased the report is, shouldn’t we be invariably trying to improvise so that we are no longer member to this list ? Why put brakes to any creativity and ideas by starting to compare with the neighbors ? And this is comment and request not just for Pakistan , but for India too. We share a lot of history and there is lot in common, if we work together instead of bleeding each other I am certain we will do wonders.Recommend
Islamic leaders and Islamic strict citizens of Paksitan ruined Pakistan by only getting islamic education and bad behavior against Women of pakistan and also not allowing women getting modern education. I feel sorry for Pakistan but really i can’t do anything but to watch pakistan go down. Recommend
all we need is to get the mullahs to rule us fully and we will not just be the top on Earth but possibly in this quadrant on the galaxyRecommend
The ground realities of India and Pakistan are much the same, nothing at all from the West shall be believed, on top of anything, are the two things that should never, ever be believed: statistics and media reports.Recommend
Lollywood presents “I am number 12″Recommend
In 1947 our population (West Pak,) was 30 million today it is 180 million. The population grew by 6 times !!! Think hard about. What does mean. Each farmer now has 1/6 less land. Water tables are shrinking with as such out water. Think of the damage to the environment from how intensively we are using the land. Land in many parts is accumulating salt from bad irrigation. Each person would now be 6 times richer. Karachi is now a mega-slum. You should see on youtube a film of Karachi in 1950. If you have a brain think what we could have become you would weep.
We failed big time in population. WE HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN 1947 AND WE BLEW IT.
But the the depressing thing is failed in many many other areas. There is no need list further. I wish the illiterates who are posting here would see the ground realities. Recommend
Qaatil bhee whohee – Munsif Bhee whohee – - – - – - – - –
The present state of affairs is because of the courtesy of US. Instead of helping and re-dressing our difficulties, they are showing / propogating us high in this list.
I term this list highly one sided – thanks to foreign jewish Media. Let us not bogged down by this US generated report and look ahead to re-build Pakistan.
Regards
Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
Johannesburg
South AfricaRecommend
I agree, there is not much sanity left in the country but at the same time, you can’t call it curtains. I mean come on … a number 12 failed state does not produce a gem like Coke Studio! Watch the show and you feel the country is alive, vibrant, soulful, peaceful. A number 12 failed state does not win gold medals in asian games, and does not make it to cricket world cup semi finals despite having marked as no-go zone for international cricket. I guess we are badly ripped apart between extremely gruesome and ultimately amazing.Recommend
Fahmid Sheikh:
Dont believe anything from the west. Why only statistics or media reports . Why believe their weapons and control systems.They may have planted logic not to function when Pak fights india, if at all. Why believe their dollars, they may give fake currencies., Why believe their scientific discoveries, They may go against Islamic traditions. Why believe their aeroplanes and ships. they may be gas guzzlers.
Why dont you guys read the full report and improve on the parameters by which Pakistan is rated as a failing state?. Why bother where India stands or Srilanka stands. It is their botheration. If Pak plays the one-up-manship all the times with INdia, it is not going anywhere while India minds its own affairs ie economic growth storyRecommend
@JR:
Honestly, you guys talk so much nonsense about India that you’ll never be taken seriously even if they do actually cause some harm. Do they have the old “Boy Who Cried Wolf” story over there? If not, you should look it up.
Preemptive: no I’m not Indian.Recommend