Pakistan

Chechen 'terrorist' was pregnant when shot dead

Chechen woman shot at Kharotabad checkpost in Quetta was shot 12 times, reveals autopsy report.

Express May 20, 2011

QUETTA:

The autopsy report of a woman who was among the five suspected Chechen terrorists killed in Quetta on Tuesday, reveals that she was pregnant at the time she was shot dead.

Express 24/7 correspondent Shehzad Baloch reports that the autopsy which was carried out at the Bolan Medical Complex in Quetta, revealed the woman, who is yet to be identified by authorities, was shot 12 times. The report also reveals that she was seven months pregnant. No bomb-related injury has been found on her body.

Autopsies on the remaining four bodies is under way.

On Tuesday, police shot and killed five suspected terrorists, including three women, when they allegedly opened fire at FC personnel at a checkpost in the Kharotabad area on Tuesday.

COMMENTS (62)

maira | 12 years ago | Reply this is a open crime ...n where is our government ...?????

maira | 12 years ago | Reply raners r getting worse day by day..n shameless people...!!

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Naveen Marri | 12 years ago | Reply police knew it very well that they were innocent migrant in search of better and safe place to live, but selfish , greedy and brutal police made staged drama, killed them , then stole jewelery from dead women, the soldiers kept firing at innocent women fired hundreds of rounds of bullets, police and para military troops were in hundreds they could have arrested those 5 men and women and one unborn baby,,,, for investigation ,they went to FC check post for help and protection from brutal police men ..but coward men in uniform roasted them , its a shame to all of us, we hear such brutalities again n again and yet no men in uniform is ever punished thats why they do it again n again such brutalities

Ibrahim | 12 years ago | Reply I read all the analysis and comments of people written above but I ask only one questioin from all able analysts that why the chechan girls hand has been tied with rope see the picture through following link, then conclude. http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?66462-Among-the-chechans-killed-one-female-was-7-months-pregnant-!!!!

CHECHEN | 12 years ago | Reply @Z. Akbar: If i meet a pakistanish in another land i will fight with him inshaALLAH by question what you do her? and i will say just ALLAHU AKBAR. P:S:Womans finger its meen LA ILAHA ILALAH.

M.Khalid | 12 years ago | Reply Shame on Pakistan and its forces.

Faisal mir | 12 years ago | Reply Were they terrorists ,what weapons were with them ,biggest terrorists are the leaders of pakistan

Faisal mir | 12 years ago | Reply If this so called secruity forces of pakistan had any guts they would have confronted helicopeters of u.s.a who killed osama bin laden or those drones which daily attack pakistan ,killing these innocent muslims and then calling them terrorists is shame on this media and this govt and the people of pakistan who dont raise voice against it ,but only come on roads in favour of there corrupt leaders

zeba | 12 years ago | Reply Whether terrorist or police…I sometimes wonder how do they sleep at night after killing innocent human beings….

Nisar | 12 years ago | Reply It is a clear crime and terrorism Only Allah can revenge for these innocents. Curse on the killers of innocents.

Saad H | 12 years ago | Reply I have no sympathy for this woman if she really was a terrorist. If she wasn't shot, she would have successfully killed a large number of innocent people

Fahad Zafar | 12 years ago | Reply What is our establishment trying to achieve? This shows how deeply CIA, Mossad, RAW league have intruded into our agencies. Mr Zardari visits Russia for strategic relationship and here this league highlights Chechens living in Pakistan. A clear message to Russia "dont relate yourself with Pakistani's, they house people against you". Its shocking to evaluate the situation.

mind control | 12 years ago | Reply @Maria @human: No they were illegally in Pakistan. No Maria, you have got it all wrong. This is what ET report says, The passports contained valid visas for Iran which suggested that the foreigners intended to go to Iran through Taftan. Published in The Express Tribune, May 19th, 2011.

M.Akthar | 12 years ago | Reply I agree with Iftikhar ur rehman. Every citizen of the country should be able to criticize only after which theres a scope for improvement. But in our country, criticizer is deemed unpatriotic and Indian, US Agent, & so, we`ll not improve. Had the establishment accepted this incident was a case of mistaken identity & regret this incident, it would have been much humble. But unfortunately, by being in denial, the issue is becoming unnecessarily.

Sajjada | 12 years ago | Reply it is very easy to pass comments by sitting in room in fornt of computer. The battle field is different and when we are going through a state of war specially in Balochistan and KPK.

mustafa | 12 years ago | Reply They had russian passports and valid visas for Iran, but they were found in pakistan. they could enter Iran from Heerat border and so. On May 6, 2011, terrorists attacked innocent people from the same road, two kilometers away, from this place where five terrorists were targeted. We all are victims of Media. What is authenticity of Media. Don't we remember when a prominent reporter cum anchor termed Osama Bin Laden as a hero of the Islamic World. Today he is pronounced as terrorist.

the Media have tampered Five Terrorists as Tourists, without pakistani visas. No need to sympathize with them.

Luckily these five held passports, with no pak-visa, otherwise, there are hundreds of them including women who do not hold passports. Unfortunately, we are selective in our choice of human rights. We less care for our people. They should be killed who challenge our forces. Don't criticize The FC force has borne heavy losses in the hands of terrorists.

Iftikhar-ur-Rehman | 12 years ago | Reply @Anwar: You are 100% right. I pointed this out on the very first day but ET refused to print my comments and again yesterday ET did the same.( I wonder even if this will be printed). The girls were literally begging , waving their hands but our very brave Rangers continued firing their guns.I sure hope that the goof officer who ordered shoot to kill, will have nightmares for a very long time.

Ishtiaq Khan | 12 years ago | Reply aoa...this shooting drama is totally against human-rights,we all know that the chiefs(Heads) of terrorists(like mulla omar,haqani network and mulana gulbahadar) are being protected and supported by our so called defenders(Pakistan Army) but innocent people are targeted by these brave soldiers and policemen in very much expert manner,it is totally inhuman and against the norms of civilized society.We must condemn these extra-judicial killings.

Khawaja Furqan | 12 years ago | Reply This is really a big shame...... Media Reports confirm following *They were not armed *They did not hurl grenades *They were not wearing jackets *They had valid passports & visas for Iran *They were on the only land-link going to Iran *They had only few $'s *They killed the woman who waived her hands for help (Might be for reason she would have revealed the actual story) Ironically they were inside the checkpost and FC men were outside. Let' wait for the final reports and I am more convinced that all they were innocents. Aamir rightly said we cannot fire US intruders, Raymond and drones but we are excellent killers of innocent people. Situation very complex for Fellow Pakistani expatriates in the world to justify Pakitan is a safe place for foreigners

Maulana Diesel | 12 years ago | Reply This is terrible. I am at a loss for words.

Mubarik Tahir | 12 years ago | Reply Unfortunately, Mullah has made most of the Pakistanis cold blooded murderers. It is shame to call our country 'Pakistan'. We should rename it as Qasabistan and Beastistan.

SaudiRules | 12 years ago | Reply @Z. Akbar: 1. What was OBL doing in kakool? Why the brave khakis did not shoot him? 2. What are mulla "one-eyed" omar and other thugs are doing in pakistan? 3. List goes on and on ......................

Harris | 12 years ago | Reply This is inhumane ...whatever happened....it should not have happened.....pregnant woman....valid documents....

Disco Molvi | 12 years ago | Reply @Heartvoice: Please don't try to connect the deaths of the two brothers (killed by 'rozedar' people of Sialkot) to this incident. While you're at it, why not connect Salman Taseer and Shahbaaz Bhatti to this scenario too? Who knows whether they may have fathered another child/children if they had been allowed to live, a child who shall never be conceived now, ever. Or how about countless innocent Pakistani men, women and children that have been massacred by these suicide bombers? Who will answer about the fate of their progeny?

Mahrukh | 12 years ago | Reply Thank you Ziaulhaq for leaving Pakistan such a 'better state'!

Ahmed | 12 years ago | Reply @Zaki Khalid: This is just reckless attitude and you are just commenting without any awareness of the incident. Police's account of story differs from the security forces' version. So, this the level of humanity left in yourself. If an ordinary citizen has this kind of mental level than what we can expect from extremists. If loss of a life can be avoided than it should have been done.

Syed Ali Abbas | 12 years ago | Reply OK let us suppose for a minute that they were terrorists... but does Islam teach you to shoot a women, in hijab, injured, lying down, waving to stop shooting????? Was catching her alive was impossible???? Obviously, it would have been more advantageous in both the scenarios: they were terrorists or they were not terrorists. Our army and police are so vigilant when they are fighting unarmed civilians but when the Americans or terrorists come, they are nothing but mere spectators... all of you must remember the Lahore incident when they opened fire at SriLankan team, what was our police doing? Sitting like ducks! And when they attacked the police training centers and many other incidents... similarly, our army is always 'resting in peace' when the Americans come in their drones or choppers. I would not waste my time on talking about the so-called democratic government and other leaders because you all know most of them are a few self-interested rogues on American payroll. Unfortunately, media has also turned a blind eye toward this… Well, slowly but surely, I am becoming ashamed of being a Pakistani :( God Bless My Country!

Wahaj | 12 years ago | Reply Where is Asma Jehangir our lone human rights crusader? hmm no where!! it will bring bad publicity in the west

wahab | 12 years ago | Reply ya ya the security forces should have waited until one of them blown them off and killed everyone.. The matter is being investigated..Better not comment before the results, its a sensitive issue

Thinking | 12 years ago | Reply When will Pakistan get its head straight? The commenters above lamenting this terrorist being killed blow my mind. Why aren't you asking "What do we do to stop people from becoming terrorists?" "What kind of awful human being would put her unborn child at risk by becoming a terrorist?" I feel sorry for the unborn child that he or she will never see the light of day but I feel even more sorry that his or her mother was a terrorist. Please for the sake of Pakistan and the world, stop sympathizing with terrorists.

Muhib | 12 years ago | Reply If they were innocent, our nation will suffer more from Allah's azaab....

Maria | 12 years ago | Reply @human: No they were illegally in Pakistan. Unfortunate as it sounds, the lives of the FC personnel are more important than trying to risk finding out who these foreigners were and why they were there. I am sorry that 5 innocents had to die but I am sorry, Pakistanis should always come first in the state of Pakistan. You think that when innocent civilians are killed in the crossfire or in questionable circumstances, it is a big issue with western forces. Yes try to avoid civilian casualties but in the fog of war many such unfortunate incidents occur. It's time to send all the illegal foreigners out- especially the Afghanis, the Arabs, the Central Asians etc. The job of the FC is tough enough as it is. We need to stand by the FC who has sacrificed so many of its own in safegaurding citizens.

rizwan | 12 years ago | Reply Only God knows what those Chechans were up to in this part of the world. These few years Pakistan is not an attractive tourist destination for reasons that i am sure all of us are aware of.As the Chechans have been locked in an armed struggle for independence against Russia. The Russian government has repeatedly protested to Pakistan government that Chechan militants get their military training from Pakistan/Afghanistan and bring it back to "apply" it in Russia. However, as a human-being my heart goes out to the 5 people killed including a pregnant woman. But at the same time we have to acknowledge that these are not normal times we are living in. One has to understand the tens environment in which the security personnel have to work. They have to walk a tight rope, in the face of an enemy that camouflages itself in the guise of common people as part of their strategy. Even if we accept that these 5 Chechans were not suicide bombers, we have to accept that they must have done something unusual to arouse suspicion in the security guards' minds. Killing someone casually or for fun seems out of question here.

sarahatiq | 12 years ago | Reply God all those people who are supporting this killing are no less then Terrorist. Who the hell give u the right to declare a unborn baby a terrorist just because his mother posses arms? and U.S Our Forces Promised they will do their best to fight against Terrorism and See They killed an alleged, 7 Months Pregnant Woman, terrorist. Did u see our commitment towards war against terrorism? We killed a terrorist even before HE was BORN. And then we expect U.S to take very good care of Human Rights when they deal with Our Daughter Afia Siddiqi .

S.G. Jilanee | 12 years ago | Reply @Uza Syed: On what evidence do you and others of your ilk call the woman "terrorist?" Only Americans could say so and only Americans could so brazenly shoot people only on the basis of perception. For them all the unarmed men whom they murdered in Abbottabad were also terrorists. What happened shows how the FC has been brainwashed by its American trainers.

blithe | 12 years ago | Reply Terrible to see the video footage! The lady was raising her hand as a plea for help/ surrender. Why did we keep firing at her?

Shabbir Baloch | 12 years ago | Reply the woman was pregnant, and police thought that she was wearing explosive. so sad

Moise | 12 years ago | Reply Shoot first ask questions later.

Rohail | 12 years ago | Reply Who was the father? I bet it were the Taliban! Come on guys, support your own people, not the terrorists! God bless US-Pakistan friendship!

Adil | 12 years ago | Reply they were not terrorist, they were unarmed civilians,,, They was killed for not paying bribe to Police...

Zaki Khalid | 12 years ago | Reply FYI, female suicide bombers regularly blow themselves up in mainland Russia coming from Chechnya. There have been several cases in which pregnant women went ahead with these ops. No mercy for terrorists.

AMIR Can | 12 years ago | Reply Chechens will take revenge on Pakistani government and military for this. Can we blame them for it though?

thatswrong | 12 years ago | Reply Many foreigners roam streets of Pakistan. Not all of them are on terror-tourism. Some come as labourers. Why can't our security forces accept the responsibility by citing the reason that they were paranoid and so killed them.

NJ | 12 years ago | Reply @aamir: come on, the child was not a terrorist, it is gruesome, how can you deny someone getting birth in this world by killing him....pathetic, hineous, how could they do this!!! and still there are some people finding excuses!!!! my God.

Heartvoice | 12 years ago | Reply @mir and Z.Akbar.... if u watched the news.. They didn't throw any hand grenade.. And not even fired a single bullet...there were no ammunition recover from them and neither any suicide jacked. As per reports they were their way to IRAN via CHAMAN…and they were traveling with valid passports… ther already given bribe at 2 check posts and here they are out of money . Have you watched the two press conferences by DPO Quetta? Once on same day and one yesterday… Both are different. In first one he said no blast happened. We never give them time to “Reaction”. Yesterday he said they had killed by their own grenade blast…. Amazing.. if they had recovered any ammunition then why didn’t they show that to media . They showed the passports.. Only what they found. My questions are? Have u ever seen a terrorist along with a passport or ID? If they are on mission why didn’t they open a single fire? And where are the forces when RAMIND DAVIS killed Pakistani? Where are the Forces when American choppers are in Pakistan? Where are the forces when DRONE killed innocent people? Where are the forces when target killing in Baluchistan? Where are our forces when there is everyday target killing in Karachi..? Any one tried to give justice to 12th May, 2009 victims…? Once they are injured why they didn’t tried to arrest them to investigate further?

Heartvoice | 12 years ago | Reply @mir and Z.Akbar.... if u watched the news.. They didn't throw any hand grenade.. And not even fired a single bullet...there were no emanation recover from them and neither any suicide jacked. As per reports they were their way to IRAN via CHAMAN…and they were traveling with valid passports… ther already given bribe at 2 check posts and here they are out of money . Have you watched the two press conferences by DPO Quetta? Once on same day and one yesterday… Both are different. In first one he said no blast happened. We never give them time to “Reaction”. Yesterday he said they had killed by their own grenade blast…. Amazing.. if they had recovered any Emanation then why didn’t they show that to media . They showed the passports.. Only what they found. My questions? Have u ever seen a terrorist along with a passport or ID? If they are on mission why didn’t they open a single fire? And where are the our forces when RAMIND DAVIS killed Pakistani? Where are our forces when there is target killing in Karachi..?

Z. Akbar | 12 years ago | Reply Before people start going on about divine retribution. Did anyone think about a few things. i. What were chechens doing in quetta? ii. Why were the near a security checkpost? iii. Why would the police kill some one, unless they were under direct threat? iv. Clearly reports state that grenades were thrown at them. v. Again, what the hell were chechens doing in quetta? We should believe our own military, people in Pakistan made Osama Bin Laden a hero, and some JI members even prayed for him. Look at ourselves, we are becoming more and more right wing every day and going into a state denial. Terrorists exist in Pakistan, both foreign and local...wake up and smell the coffee.

Mir | 12 years ago | Reply They did not get the wrong people. The two people that are on the run opened their attack with grenades on the post. These woman probably unarmed were targets due to being in the same vehicle from which they got off to surrender or attack. I value the life of my soldier who made the call as to them being suicide bombers with burqas on or what not. You can value the life of the traitor to humanity for being in the same car as the people who killed one of my soldiers.

Much amused | 12 years ago | Reply Shameful.

Usman | 12 years ago | Reply Government should investigate all the Matter and than decided what to do..

Anwar | 12 years ago | Reply I think this is a screw up. They got the wrong people. Now they want to cover it up. Free media where are you???

Heartvoice | 12 years ago | Reply After all they are human being... once they are injured our forces can capture them alive… but they fired round of bullets … why… No value for humanity … they killed a mother... and a new life… :’( Is this Pakistan…? A PAK LAND…? Dreamed and founded 64 years ago… Where is justice …? Similarly last year in AUGEST, 2010...2 Brothers are killed in Sialkot very brutally… All the evidences are taped… No one dare to punish those culprit police officers who are standing there watching cruelty… No the Chief Justice… not the Chief Minister… not the prime minister… They make whole nation dead… We are use to watch this whole day and forget every cruelty or injustice after some time.. Where are we standing today? We are Muslims… in our religion we can’t hurt an animal but those are five humans… infect SIX human lives…

Hijab Zehra | 12 years ago | Reply extremely shameful act by the law enforcement agencies killing unarmed people ruthlessly.

XYZ | 12 years ago | Reply what were these people doing in that part of pakistan. ?

MAD | 12 years ago | Reply Why do i have a a feeling they have screwed this one up and are now trying to cover themselves.

aamir | 12 years ago | Reply terrorist is a terrorist whether pregnant or virgin..

a ercelan | 12 years ago | Reply baffling that a woman who was well into pregnancy would want to be a terrorist. this is becoming a hit and run state, with incredible stories to wash bloody hands. will the cj turn his attention away from trivial matters like pco men or not?

Ahmed | 12 years ago | Reply @Aamir: Insane, do you mean before hitting the attackers, the security personnel has to conduct a medical test of the attackers that either she is pregnant or not before firing? What you people are commenting.

human | 12 years ago | Reply Terrible :(... They also had their passports with them. They were legally here....

Uza Syed | 12 years ago | Reply Tch! Tch! Now, how could they shoot, just like that? An 'Ultrasonic scan' administered, a pregnancy test done, and a specialist in Gynecology should have been consulted and then shot this terrorist.

Fahad Raza | 12 years ago | Reply OhGod Almighty we need to get to the bottom of this

Aamir | 12 years ago | Reply Where are human rights activists and NGOs who are living on US Aid??? Where is our fair media??? Where is our Interior Minister?? Where is the goverment?? Security forces are on the loose to play role of uniformed terrorists. This is a simple case of bribe and extra judicial killings. Our forces are shame for the country as they cannot fire a bullet on US intruders but empty rounds of bullets on unarmed individuals. Pakistan is going through dark age in the history. We are fast inviting greater punishment from Allah.

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