Time to save the Higher Education Commission

Published: April 5, 2011
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The writer is a former federal minister of science & technology and a former chairman of the Higher Education Commission

The writer is a former federal minister of science & technology and a former chairman of the Higher Education Commission

There is an impending disaster looming in front of us (something also mentioned in a recent editorial in this newspaper on the matter of devolving the functions of the Higher Education Commission [HEC] to the provinces). What has been decided by the cabinet (on the recommendation of a parliamentary committee on devolution headed by Raza Rabbani) is to tear higher education to shreds and hand over the pieces to the provinces.

What has not been realised by our policymakers is that the process of socio-economic development takes place through central strategic planning, which is intimately connected to a country’s higher education and science and technology programmes. The minimum quality requirements and the numbers of engineers, scientists, doctors, economists and social scientists needed for nation-building have to be determined through careful central planning regarding human resource requirements in various sectors. A multiplicity of standards and regulations would be disastrous. That is why the world over, including in India, higher education planning and funding is done centrally, even though universities are located in the provinces.

All the vice-chancellors of public sector universities, on November 27, 2010, therefore, unanimously resolved that the status quo of the HEC should be maintained since it has performed exceptionally well and is completely protected under the 18th Amendment. Pakistan’s highest level science body, the Pakistan Academy of Sciences (whose members have included such luminaries as the late professors Abdus Salam and Salimuzzaman Siddiqui, and whose present members include Dr A Q Khan, Dr Ishfaq Ahmed and Dr Samar Mubarak Mand, and of which I am now the president) held a press conference in Islamabad recently, protesting in the strongest possible terms, the fragmentation of HEC. A strongly worded article protesting the dismantling of the HEC, by Dr AQ Khan, was published in The News of March 29, 2009. All this fell on deaf ears. The motivation behind the shredding is “to teach the HEC a lesson”. This, he wrote, was for upholding the principles of merit, not bowing to political pressures and, particularly, for refusing to verify forged degrees of a large number of parliamentarians as being legal.

Pakistan made remarkable progress during 2001-2008 in higher education. There was a 600 per cent increase in scientific publications in international journals and a 1,000 per cent increase in citations in this period. Today, several of our universities are ranked among the top 500. The University of Karachi was ranked at 223 in the world, NUST at 260 in the world and Quaid-i-Azam University at 270 in the world, in the field of natural sciences. This is no ordinary achievement after decades of stagnation. The World Bank, USAID and the British Council published comprehensive reports on the higher education sector, applauding it and calling it “a silent revolution”.

Pakistan won several prestigious international awards for the revolutionary changes in the higher education sector brought about by the Higher Education Commission. These include the TWAS (Academy of Sciences for the Developing World, Italy) Award for Institutional Development in October 2009 and the Austrian high civil award “Grosse Goldene Ehrenzeischen am Bande” (2007), conferred on me as chairman of the Higher Education Commission.

An eminent educational expert, Professor Wolfgang Voelter of Tubingen University, paid glowing tributes to the Higher Education Commission in an article in a Pakistani newspaper on November 28, 2008 under the heading “The Golden Period”. I quote: “A miracle happened. The scenario of education, science and technology in Pakistan changed dramatically as never before in the history of Pakistan. The chairperson of the Senate Standing Committee on Education recently announced it as ‘Pakistan’s golden period in higher education’.” Professor Michael Rode, former chairman of the United Nations Commission on Science, Technology and Development wrote, and I quote: “The progress made was breathtaking and has put Pakistan ahead of comparable countries in numerous aspects.” The world’s leading and oldest scientific society, Royal Society (London) recently published a booklet entitled “A New Golden Age”, considering Pakistan to be the best practice model to be followed by other developing countries.

India became deeply concerned at these developments. In an article entitled “Pak Threat to Indian Science” published in the leading daily newspaper Hindustan Times, India, on July 23, 2006, Neha Mehta reported that Professor C N R Rao, (Chairman of the Indian prime minister’s scientific advisory council) made a presentation to his boss and expressed serious concerns at the remarkable progress made by Pakistan in the higher education and science sectors. The article wrote that “Pakistan may soon join China in giving India serious competition in science”. The Indian leadership need not be concerned since we are ourselves hell-bent on destroying our nation by undermining the development and progress of higher education, science and technology and then being doomed to perpetual slavery.

The HEC was created as an autonomous federal regulatory institution with the prime minister of Pakistan as its controlling authority. The composition of the commission reflects a balanced federal structure with representation from each province, as well as the secretary education and secretary science and technology, together with eminent academic and research experts. All powers and functions of the HEC defined under its legislation are covered and protected in the provisions of the 18th Amendment. But, alas, who cares about what is legal and what is not.

Lower level education has been a complete mess, because of half-witted plans and lack of a national commitment towards education. Some of our leaders have now come up with this strategy to destroy the higher education sector as well. My plea to the government is: Please stop this suicidal madness. Something good happened in Pakistan after some 55 years of neglect. Let us not destroy this wonderful initiative.

I hope that the president, prime minister and the army chief will intervene to stop this madness before it is too late. If ever there was a case for the chief justice of the Supreme Court to take suo motu action on, this is it.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 5th,  2011.

Reader Comments (221)

  • Umer
    Apr 5, 2011 - 1:35AM

    i feel extremely disappointed and upset to hear this. HEC in my view is one of the few organisations working sincerely in Pakistan. hope it lives forever! Recommend

  • A Thinker
    Apr 5, 2011 - 1:39AM

    Very timely article of grave importance. I hope it knocks some sense into our current decision makers.Recommend

  • Alia Amir
    Apr 5, 2011 - 1:41AM

    Shame on Pakistani leadership! If HEC is dissolved it will be the final nail in the coffin of Pakistan’s education sector. HEC is the last hope as it will safeguard our future generations progress and development.

    Dr. Ata is absolutely right HEC is the REVOLUTION, a silent one, maybe even slow at this stage but future generations of Pakistan will reap the results.

    As far as the publication list of Pakistani scholars is concerned, we haven’t seen this before HEC came into being. When Pakistani PhD scholars present their research in the world conferences, people are astonished to find out that a developing country is so keen on training its academia. According to Science Watch, Pakistan is a rising star in two fields.

    HEC is a launch pad which has provided the PhD scholars the power to innovate, think, create, write , publish and present in the community of researchers worldwide. If someone was to compile a list of the publications (and patents) in the last ten years by Pakistanis they will be astonished.

    Save HEC, save the future of generations.Recommend

  • Saud Tufail
    Apr 5, 2011 - 1:59AM

    Being a student studying in the so called best business school of Pakistan I am deeply ashamed to hear this news. This reflects the poor mentality and the crude wickedness on the part of the politicians to rob the future of millions of people just for the sake of their own selfish personal goals. Its time that students from different universities join hands to stop this suicidal menace from happening. It is hoped that sanity would prevail we could expect a better future for the coming generations.Recommend

  • Dr. Bilawal Ahmed
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:35AM

    It is sad …one federal institution which was credible not only in Pakistan but the world recognized it. I just don’t understand what the government is trying to prove , it’s doing wonders which none has done in the past…Recommend

  • Apr 5, 2011 - 2:40AM

    As an excellent performance of the HEC, its revolutionary policies, and selection criteria on merit, the overseas HEC scholars in technologically advanced countries are doing their best to uplift the name of Pakistan by putting in their united efforts at the platforms of student associations. Their target audience are the University fellows, which will be the government officials, policy makers, politicians, educationists and think tanks in advanced countries of the world. This is the most effective way of stopping false propaganda in international media about Pakistan. So far, the achievements of such associations have been extra-ordinary. Pakistan is being projected as a developing and rising nation, and not the provinces competing among themselves. Pakistani Students’ Association at Massey University (www.mupsa.org) is one of such associations, and our activities can be seen on our website as well as the Massey University website. Shredding HEC into pieces is going to create adverse negative effects on such achievements made by the student associations across the globe. This will lead to depression, hopelessness and brain-drain. Incompetent politicians, whether knowingly or not, will be responsible for such adverse effects and will be remembered as culprits in our history for leading us backwards and demoralizing us about the future of Pakistan. Save HEC, save future of Pakistan.Recommend

  • saleem
    Apr 5, 2011 - 4:22AM

    Why Army Chief has to interfere in the decision which is reached through a Historic Consensus of the representative of 170 million people. If we want a strong Federation then we need strong Federating Units which can only be achieved through provincial autonomy. People of the weaker and smaller provinces waited 63 long years for this provincial autonomy and in the way we loose Majority of Pakistan in 1971 by not granting this autonomy. It is not only HEC which is against this 18th amendment but almost all to-be-devolved ministries have one way or the other delaying this devolution. Strong Pakistan can only be safeguarded when provinces are strong. Regarding the ranking of Pakistani universities, I google it and can not find any Pakistan Public Sector university in the top 500 list, not even in Asia let alone in the World. Recommend

  • nom
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:39AM

    Professor Atta ur Rahman,
    I cannot tell you how upset I was when I heard about this. I hoped to one day work for the HEC and make perhaps half as much of a contribution as you have. What can we do to stop this madness?Recommend

  • zar rizwan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:05AM

    Doctor Sahib you are simply wasting your time our leadership busy in re opening of the Bhutto case so they have no time for HEC since as per their belief if Bhutto trial case re open and eventually Bhutto acquitted from supreme court is the road to success, education was never a priority for Zardari led Govt since there sons and daughters are studying in prestigious London universities and further more they already obtain license to rule this country there is no need to debate our fate is already set,
    Do you think from any of PPP cadre have courage to stand and speak against BILWAL Bhutto the answer is no so please we don’t need education we need Bhuttism for our survival and all PPP stalwarts committed to this noble cause we have no solution just to wait for some Mohd Ali Jinnah else our fate already decided by our rulers,
    ROTI KAPDA MUKAN zinda bad, HEC and Taleem murda bad long live PPP and BHUTTO, Recommend

  • Salman
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:06AM

    I agree Atta sahab. The government must stop this madness. I sugguest you ask for the help of some poltical leaders. History will judge you well Atta sahab if you can help save the HEC.Recommend

  • TBM
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:06AM

    WE NEED TO CAMPAIGN AGAINST THIS MOVE!!…

    That is it. Nothing else.

    Seems like now everything in Pakistan will be decided on the streets…..ironically!!

    I as a former student, professional and a citizen of Pakistan….condemn this move and protest the government to get their eyes opened.

    If they can’t make any progress….please don’t ruin the one which has been done already.Recommend

  • Abdul Haseeb
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:12AM

    Despite the remarkable progress made by HEC in rising the higher education standards particularly in the field of Science and technology that is need of the hour, It’s quite strange to hear that our leaders who are doing nothing good at their own , they want to stop what is going on good. HEC is one of the very few central departments which is corruption free and adding a lot in our country’s progress by maintaining and raising the standards of quality education, By the fragmentation of HEC we ll see an unbearable loss, so it’s the responsibility of every patriotic citizen of Pakistan to raise voice against fragmentation of HEC at his own level.
    May Allah survive Pakistan and bless us with few very good and educated leaders who can lead the nation to the right path of progress and prosperity.Recommend

  • Haroon
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:19AM

    There is no justification for such a step, so far it seems that logic is not what the Government adheres to, they are just hell bent to get even with HEC over the fake degrees issue.Recommend

  • Saad Duraiz
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:28AM

    I have never lost hope for Pakistan’s future but this move by the government has shaken me to the core!Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:34AM

    HEC has been granted the scholarship in competent people, has been granted funding on meaning less projects initiated by some non faculty members ( Gallup), has been obliged friends,relatives with in Pakistan and abroad.
    Many those are enjoying HEC scholarship in abroad are educating in the non listed university by the HEC.
    TTS, bring incompetent people. HEC became nepotistic.
    Stake holders were being stronger…so its devolution is welcomedRecommend

  • Bunny
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:36AM

    Sir we are with you…..actually problem is that we are having illeterate and jahil leader and so most of thier follower…they does not understand the importance of education……Sir i salute you and i am with you….Recommend

  • Dr Naseer Hussain
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:40AM

    Dr Attaur Rehman’s efforts at HEc are generally appreciated by many university teachers.His article to defend the HEC lacks the scientific approach one would expect from a scientist of his calibre.Politicians and the people with little knowledge of science from the smaller provinces need to know about the progress and achievements,if any, made by their university graduates and faculty members.It would be hardly convincing to mention that our best university ranks 500 in the world and the Indian advisor to the Prime Minister of India is scared of our progress.Yes he must have told him that Pakistan’s progress in Education is a skewed one and the Indian Govt should be well prepared for a large number of Talibans in the years to come.HEC with an army of “intellectuals” should be able to justify its survival by giving :
    amount of money spent on its reccurring expenditure
    its budgetary allocations for each Province
    Numbers of students(Province wise) studying abroad
    Amount of research grants (Province wise)
    The above mentioned figure would amply justify or otherwise, its role in development of the
    higher education in less developed areas of the country.Now it is the age of reasoning.Please talk sense.Recommend

  • truth speaks
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:18AM

    Corrupt Politicians are meant to make nation fragile….Chief Justice should take a Suo motu action….Recommend

  • JAPAN NA YOU GHAREEB WAZIR
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:28AM

    I request to All students, university professors and researchers across the world to give hand in hand to raise the slogan against the PPP governament decision to demolish HEC. The PPP Governament want to keep the people of Pakistan in darkness so that they can easily impose their stupid decisions and to exploit Pakistan. We must be united for this noble cause if you belive that Pakistan is the FORT OF ISLAMIC WORLD. Pakistan has to do many wounderfull jobs for the development of Islamic world. Some forces in the world do not want to see strong and develop Pakistan. These people are working hard on many frontiers, to weaken Pakistan like Black water, Dyna corps, demolishment of HEC and introducing high level of corouption into Pakistan. We must be aware of our internal enemies as well as external enemies.
    United we stands, divinded we fall
    JazakallahRecommend

  • Zarghun
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:36AM

    Cool-down gentlemen! HEC is devolved because the federating units – except probably Punjab – want it to be devolved. The federating units, which are equal partners in Pakistan, are no longer ready to have institutions at the “centre” which are dominated by Punjabis. And do not make any mistake: higher education can be better promoted at provincial level because provincial leadership and academia know better what higher education exactly they want, how much and when. Dr. Atta-ur-Rahman – as a citizen of Pakistan – has the right to express his opinion. But his opinion has no more weight that the parliamentarians and political leaders. I personally as a Pashtun do not want any institution in Islamabad to decide for me what, how and when, an education do I need.Recommend

  • Critical Thinker
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:50AM

    Let me just tell you the story of HEC in the Netherlands. There are around 300 plus HEC PhD scholars in the Nehterlands. As for as i know, there is no student from Baluchistan, Only one from FATA, 3 or 4 from interior Sindh, 5 from southern Punjab. The bulk of the students come from Central Punjab and Peshawar and Mansehra division of KPK and Karachi. If you are running the affairs through a central authority then you need to avoid such a skewed distribution of resources and that is why HEC has to devolve to provinces. Recommend

  • Syed Imran
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:01PM

    What can one expect out of a President who by himself could not qualify his Matric Exams. The persian quote ” Khar Chi mi kuney Zafran cheest” meaning what a donkey knows what Zafran(a beautiful smelling flower) is as it will eat it rather than smelling it.
    Higher Education for such illiterates’ means nothing.Recommend

  • saleem
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:05PM

    Sir,We are with you,we are with HEC,,infact we are with us..Recommend

  • Nadeem
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:19PM

    Why to direct public funds for Urban elite who get in these universities rather than rural schools for basic education? Pakistan ranks 2 in highest number of out of school children. They deserve these funds not the urban elite in Public universties which give a look of expo of expensive cars and dress show of imported outfits.

    Whoever wants higher education, must pay for it, the funds should go to basic schooling so that poor are able to get in schools.Recommend

  • Syed Imran
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:21PM

    @ Mr. Zargun.
    , your comments are hateful & shameful and speaks of your personal grooming. I am also a pathan and finds it extremely disgusting to find people like you carrying such myopic mindset.
    HEC is a Gem,which if wasted, means a sure doom to people(except Zargun) of this country Recommend

  • Inqilabi
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:29PM

    We the citizen of Pakistan are strong believer of Gandhi’s Philiosophy “See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” so we don’t see the evils of our politicians,bureaucrats,judiciary etc, we don’t hear the crys of the poors, and we don’t speak against all these atrocities…..We are a dead nation. Our national priority is not concerned with Education/Health etc but our priorities are BB Murder Case, Bhutto re-trial, Cat and Mouse fight of PPP-PML-PTI

    Musharaff’s last televised speech still echoed in my ears “Pakistan Ka Allah Hafiz”
    Long Live Democracy!! Long Live ‘Independent’ Judiciary!! Long Live ‘Vibrant’ Civil Society!!

    Problem needs solution….a REVOLUTION!! Now or NeverRecommend

  • Jesus
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:31PM

    @ Saud Tufail
    The best business school in Pakistan is LUMS not Iba, fyi. tyRecommend

  • Haya
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:31PM

    And I, as a resident of Sindh do not want devolution of powers when it comes to higher education because I have a very clear sense of the level of corruption that is prevalent in my province. My parliamentarians and my political ‘leaders’ have little intellect and even lesser moral character to take care of such an important issue pertaining to the youth of Pakistan. Dr Atta not only has the right to speak, but his actions speak louder than his words, and that is what matters to Pakistanis seeking real progress. This may be the time to think beyond ethnic barriers. Think development. Think Pakistan!Recommend

  • Critical Thinker
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:50PM

    @Syed Imran: If you are a Pathan, then you must know that for last 63 years people of weaker provinces were waiting for provincial autonomy. Mr Zargun is right when he says that let the federating units decide what type of education is better for them. Dr Ataurahman is only ONE citizen of Pakistan while the decision of the 18th amendment is reached with consensus of the representatives of 170 million people of Pakistan. Recommend

  • Adnan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 12:57PM

    @Zarghun:
    In order to take initiative on provincial level we do not have to dissolve the federal entity. This is not right to destruct this to construct something else. Recommend

  • Murtaza
    Apr 5, 2011 - 1:40PM

    There is no such remarkable perfomance has been done by HEC, As i know the students came to europe for higher education on HEC scholarship, all are skipped. If they are then where are they !!! There is no such check & balance on them. I will support Govt of Pakistan, Instead of wasting money on higher education project they should invest on grass root level. It your basic is not strong then what is need for higher education

    Regards

    MurtazaRecommend

  • Mrs Ahmed
    Apr 5, 2011 - 1:44PM

    What can we do when ZARDARI-NWAZ SHARIF duo are in control of our destiny , so much for democracy our people removed the one who brought this glory , soon after arriving on the scene . I can just pray for our people to be saved fron these looters in the garb of political leaders , can any sane mind explain this move .Recommend

  • Furqan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 1:53PM

    We need to speak up and stand against evils. I appreciate you efforts Dr. Sahab. I think only a silly and fool person can support such decision by one of the most corrupt governments in Pakistan’s history. This is neither a story nor a plan, HEC’s productivity for this country is a clear TRUTH and day and night efforts of 100s of people under the leadership of its founding chairman….. I am upset but not hopeless!
    SHAME SHAME Pakistani politicians…..SHAME SHAME Pakistani Government!Recommend

  • Mahdi Raza
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:10PM

    Although the news clearly maintains HEC’s role as standardizing body but even if all the fuss is about degrees(As Dr. Rehman claims) why Professor Rehman and Justice choudhry were dumb when it was a condition for Musharraf parliament…? Now when the parliament has repealed the law, they suddenly remember principles and conspiracies against HEC…Professor Rehman is not that innocent…How long he ll remain chairman of COMSTECH, HEJ and with perks and privileges of ministers and then lessons on morality too…? If Dr. Qadeer and Samr Mubark can retire and KRL and NESCom can run, why he doesn’t leave these posts or work voluntarily…?
    Heading five organizations at once(three still under his belt) how can he give lectures on morality and principles…?Plz tell me honestly if one is heading HEC, Ministry of Science & technology, COMSTECH, HEJ and Pakistan academy of Sciences at the same time how much justice he can do with any of them above all publishing papers and doing research as his primary job…Please refer my earlier sent link that how much power hungry he is and what can he do to get a position in COMSTECH and now he gives lectures on patriotism and honesty…Is the country has such a dearth of human potential…? What are citations of the eminent scientist to prove his eminence as compared to much less marketed Dr. Hoodbhoy, hardly u can see his one book having 100 as compared to Dr. Hoodbhoy ..?
    See his ugly face
    http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=74494Recommend

  • Apr 5, 2011 - 2:11PM

    Have you not benefited enough from one military dictator that you want the Army cheif to intervene again? Dont waste your time, they are too busy running NUST, Bahria, Air, NUML as an extension of their cantonment areas, beating up proffesors who dont agree with them. Recommend

  • UBD
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:19PM

    This is just rubbish. For how long are we going to wait and see what other heinous acts our so called in-ept President is capable of? Isnt there any thorough review of a law that is passed in the parliament? One just has to look at the good that the HEC has brought about in the country and instead of De-fragmenting it’s power, one should make a similar model to tackle the issues in the lower education levels. I cant believe what complete fools WE the people have voted for.Recommend

  • sUPERB
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:21PM

    The illiterate elite has joined hands to destroy the only viable institution of the country. HEC is regulating body which collaborate with other countries and the countries will not be bound to collaborate with 4 different bodies of Pakistan. This is horrendous act of illiterate politicians. Recommend

  • Umayr Masud
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:28PM

    We don’t need no education.. Recommend

  • Waheed
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:39PM

    I want to share my personal experience as a HEC-scholar. I have been studying in Technical University Berlin, for last 3 years as a PhD student. Only in Berlin, there are total of around 22 students who are (and still) doing PhDs as HEC-scholars in various fields. I know 7-8 of those scholars who have completed their PhDs and they have gone back to Pakistan to fulfill their bond agreement. I personally think the kind of research work, I ve been doing and the level of expertise I ve developed in my field, I would have never imagined in Pakistan. Recommend

  • Zarghun
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:56PM

    @Syed Imran:

    We want all powers to provinces. Nothing at the centre except defence, foreign affairs and currency. Thank you very much President Zardari and the PPP government for listening to the oppressed nations and devolving powers/ministries to the provinces, including HEC. Sorry Imran. By the way syeds are not recognised as Pashtuns. You know that better than anyone.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:59PM

    @Murtaza:
    Basic/intermediate education has been devolved to a provincial level. There is no accountability for funds put into the system. Infact foreign governemtns, NGO looking to invest in this area put their money into private schools because these organisations aren’t as corrupt.
    The provincial level educational departments are riven by fraud and corruption; foreign governments/NGO don’t put any money into them. Teachers don’t bother showing up to schools on many days, thus triggering an exodus to the private sector.
    Bearing the above in mind do you think that the provinces can efficiently handle higher education.Recommend

  • Adnan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:00PM

    It is big dilemma in Pakistan that our politicians are never letting to flourish our institutions independently. Being a social sciences student, currently I am doing study on service quality in higher education in my homeland and found significant effects of HEC to increase the number of research, foreign PhDs, establishment of new universities and infrastructure development. I totally agree with Dr. Atta Ur Reman and his dedicated team who took this initiative to bring educational reforms in our county.

    I only say this to all member of parliament and so called President, Priminster that you and your team is not capable to understand the need of Pakistani nation so, it is dire need to establish technocrats government comprising of these intellectuals like Dr. Atta and others who are really asset of Pakistan. We are proud of teachers, scientist and economist and hope they can bring out our country from these crises. Pakistan Zindabad.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:10PM

    @Critical Thinker:
    The HEC has to allocate scholarships according to merit. The reason why Karachi and central Punjab (namely Lahore) get so many of the HEC scholarships is because they have such an efficient education system; all of the country’s best educational institute are in these regions and they have a large aspiring middle class that values education.
    The answer to this is not to take scholarships away from the better students and give them to students of other provinces that aren’t as good – the answer is to improve these regions educational standards by increasing the education budget.
    But our (sham) “democratic” governement has other priorities like building itself lodges, foreign trips and cries bankruptcy when asked to put more into education.

    Our limited resources should be invested on the principles of meritocracy (the better you are, the further you rise), it should have nothing to do with provinces.
    Lets look at India. The IITs probably draw a disproportionate number of student from the upper/middle classes and some provinces like Bihar, etc are bound to be under represented.
    Now the Indian government would be foolish to scrap the IITs just because a few politicains in Bihar or some other poor state feels it’s not getting it’s fair share.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:16PM

    @Zarghun:
    OK why not folow this to it’s logical conclusion.
    Tax revenue and collection should also be be devolved. Most tax comes from Karachi, so the governement should spend about 40% of all revenues in Karachi. 40% in Punjab. All the rest of Pakistan can go to pot because they don’t pay a dime in taxes.
    Great system you are advocating.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:24PM

    @Mahdi Raza:
    Stop writing trash. If you have nothing worthy to say then stop wasting electricity and turn your computer off!!!
    Dr Rehman is world renowned chemist, fellow of Kings College Camridge University.
    What are you? What is Zardari? What is Nawaz Sharif?
    Our politicians were caught red handed telling lies.
    Now make this choice now:

    Either it’s OK for politicians to lie about their education. In that case they should all prefix their names with Professor. They should travel the world spreading their wisdom and not just confine it to Paksitan.
    OR
    It’s wrong to lie about your qualifications. Educations and knowledge is about trying to determine the truth and telling lies goes against the very core of education.

    If you want to choose the first option then I think we should juct shut all of our educational institutes because as one politician claimed: There is no difference between a real degree and a fake degree, they are both degrees!Recommend

  • usman maqsood
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:25PM

    I do not what’s going on in our country and where are the authorities..If they cannot do something for the betterment of the country, at least they must protect the existing hopes of the nation.In my opinion,all the persons mentioned by Dr. Atta and students, must join hands to save this great institute.They must send a request to the chief justice also…. Recommend

  • Zarghun
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:29PM

    @Ali:
    You are right. But then how about electricity, gas, petroleum and other natural resources in Baluchistan and Pashtunkhwa? By the way Pashtuns and Baluch etc pay as much taxes in Karachi as anybody else. If you do an honest calculation, Baluchistan and Pashtunkhwa produces more revenues – in the shape of natural resources – than any other part of Pakistan. Recommend

  • Zarghun
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:40PM

    @Ali:
    And about your view that people of karachi and lahore are better educated and therefore earn more scholarships: first do you think Pakistan will have another 60 years to develop the rest so as they can come at par with your “developed” Punjab and Karachi and earn more scolarships? If you think yes, then you are a great optimist. Pakistan is already on the decline.

    But to stay at what we are discussing here: We Pashtuns, Baluch and Sindis just want to regulate our own higher education. We do not want Islamabad to regulate our higher education. As far as scholarships are concerned: thank you HEC for the scholarships you have given us todate. We do not want anymore. We will take care of ourselves. We will find scholarships for ourselves.Recommend

  • saif M
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:56PM

    Sir, perhaps you are right, but you have weakened your case by inviting the army chief to intervene. Why him?Recommend

  • S
    Apr 5, 2011 - 4:06PM

    how come you did not mention ranking of University of the Punjab and University of Engineering??? By the way most of the student on HEC scholarship try to stay abroad and do not return back to Pakistan …. Universities in Pakistan have so much politics at all levels that they make life of specially young lecturers hell and try their best not to let them establish… here is one of the example… http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=186756168027217Recommend

  • Rizwan Wattoo
    Apr 5, 2011 - 4:26PM

    most of Members of national assembly , provincial assemblies and parliaments do not deserve to be our representatives. they are working for themselves and pomp and show. how will they pay heed to education and well being of masses. Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 4:32PM

    Governments the world over are trying to create institutes of excellence. In the UK you have the Russell Group of universities. In America you have the Ivy league. In India you have the IIT. The list goes and on.
    By breaking the HEC into pieces we risk sinking into mediocrity. Investing money in medioce institutes and poor students will not benefit anyone.
    If a student from Karachi wins a HEC scholaship and goes abroad and excels he wins kudos for all of Pakistan.
    When he comes back and works in Karachi, his skillset will be put to use for the entire nation. The taxes he pays will help the entire nation. Likewise if we reach a critical mass of educated people like him/her we will attract FDI, this will benefit the entire nation.
    Keeping the HEC at a federal level, and leaving it to function as it is now is the best path to proceed IMO. This is the best way to encourage meritocracy. One of the chief complaints to date about the HEC is poor standards at universities. How will devolution help this?
    There is no point in bringing provincial issues into this. We have scarce resources and they should be invested in order to achieve maximum results.
    Can the provinces handle HEC issues,will they make a better job of it than lower/intermediate education which is dysfuntional? How much transparency is their regarding where money is being spent? Foreign governemnts don’t trust provinces, they are putting their money into private institutes but they do trust the HEC. The HEC risks losing World bank loans if being devolved.
    There down sides are too numerous to mention.
    I have not seen one persuasive argument in favour of devolution yet!Recommend

  • sadiq
    Apr 5, 2011 - 4:35PM

    All This Stop if the Remaining 98 % People comes out from there home !!Recommend

  • sadiq
    Apr 5, 2011 - 4:38PM

    Guyz
    Chief Justice cant talk Sou Motto Action ,,
    lol
    stop posting that .. :)Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 4:46PM

    When drafting policy in the UK about higher education the governemnt consults universities, academic organsiations like the Royal Scientific Society (past members include Isaac Newton), Royal Geographic Society etc etc.
    These institutes are best positioned in order to determine what their needs are, not some member of the house of Lords etc.
    So why are doing the complete opposite. All universities in Paksitan believe this do be a bad move. Pakistan’s most eminent mathematician Ashgar Qadir has called these moves the death knell for higher education. AQ Khan is against it. Samar Mubarkmand. Even Pervez Hoodhboy proabably has some doubts although I haven’t read about his position.Everyone with any knowledge about this issue thinks it’s a flawed decision.
    The only people in favour seem to be politicians. Their ranks include people who claimed to have finished high school at age 10. Many of their ranks lied about their educational achievements. They seem to spend all of their time eulogizing Bhuttos and Nawazs; even a degree educated NA member from foreign educational institutes was upto the same thing in yesterdays editorial.
    1 guess as to who’s in charge of verifying degrees from now on!Recommend

  • Arsalan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:09PM

    It is another feather in cap of PPP.

    Hail to Democracy.Recommend

  • Shahid Akhter
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:10PM

    Dear Sir,

    I am very much shock to hear this news,Iam Graduate from karachi university,The parliamentarian have always their own intrest they never think for the future of students and for the coming generation,but we all are with you in this fight.Recommend

  • Zulqarnain
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:27PM

    O Good Lord, This government have destroyed everything left in the country, First they made up slave of IMF and now they are eliminating last hope for the nation that is HEC. O lord we are history….Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:42PM

    @Zarghun:
    That does not even count as an argument.
    What you are saying is that students from Balochistan, Interior Sindh etc don’t get as much scholarships so you are in favour of dissolving the entire outfit and funding what exactly in Balochistan? You reject the alternative of improving standards in Balochistan and instead want to grab the money and throw it into the lap of some Balochi Nawab.
    Great idea.Recommend

  • mani
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:43PM

    Sir, we are with you, plz Save HEC, Its time to hanged these corrupt politician, we all universities student are ready for any kind of protest,Recommend

  • Naeem Akhtar
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:43PM

    Friends the change we want to bring is coming, Students have started a protest in front of HEC..

    Please join there hands and get together and make this firm platform of tomorrow’s Change..

    Please join & for more info, see
    http://www.defendHEC.comRecommend

  • Zulqarnain
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:57PM

    If government dissolves HEC then we should launch an organized movement Just like lawyers did in the case of judiciary. Professors, lecturers and scientists should lead the students in that movement, It will be a shame for all the literate people if they could not save the country from illiterate and incompetent politicians. Recommend

  • S
    Apr 5, 2011 - 6:02PM

    “education is a matter of life and death for Pakistan. The world is progressing so rapidly that without the requisite advance in education, not only shall we be left behind others, but we may be wiped out altogether.” Muhammad Ali Jinnah warning in 1947Recommend

  • Ali Hassan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 6:18PM

    Yes this is sheer madness by our so called leaders, i wonder how unfortunate we are to be governed by those who care least for their own masses,their own country, Were all the inflation,American slavery,IMF loans were not enough that this government has decided to dissolve HEC (This is equivalent to dissolution). This so much hurts being a Pakistani. We were in true manner heading towards good atleast in Higher education,with number of PHD’s increasing every coming year & the Faculty of our Universities comparable to int, standards but now for sure as the number of headquarters of HEC would be increased each for every province, there would be political interests involved at each state.Alas!! don’t know why we are so dumb and deaf that even we can’t sense who is good to govern us. :(Recommend

  • Prof. Dr. Moonis Ahmar
    Apr 5, 2011 - 7:16PM

    The debate on dismantling Higher Education Commission (HEC) has reached a critical phase. In what can be termed as a short sighted and parochial approach on the state of Higher Education in Pakistan pursued by the “elected” political figures, the future of young scientists and researchers is at stake. Under the pretext of “devolution” of power to provinces, dividing HEC on provincial basis will not only cause widespread mismanagement but also unleash large-scale corruption. There is no need to embark on such type of an adventure which will have lethal implications on the future generations of Pakistan. What is needed is to improve the functioning of HEC instead of causing its demise. The state owned Universities of Pakistan and research centers require proper support on the part of the government and also by the corporate sector. Dismantling of HEC and dividing it into provinces will push the state of higher education in Pakistan several decades behind. Prof. Ataur Rehman, a learned scientist and a respected national figure needs to be supported in protecting the state of higher education in Pakistan. That only by central planning and policies formulated on the basis of merit in the field of higher education, Pakistan can successfully compete in different fields of natural, social and other sciences.

    PROF. DR. MOONIS AHMAR
    DEPARTMENT OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS
    UNIVERSITY OF KARACHI, PAKISTANRecommend

  • Bejayz
    Apr 5, 2011 - 7:21PM

    Very very shameful, shame on Pakistan leadership! Its cruelity!Recommend

  • Wanderer
    Apr 5, 2011 - 7:39PM

    If its all about the so called education of the children at the school level, why is that Pakistan has one of the worst literacy rate in the world? As far as I know, Pakistan achieved this milestone even before the establishment or should I say the fully functional HEC.And I know this for a fact that people from ALL provinces avail this opportunity if off course they deserve it. Now if some random person in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh unfortunately has more time to waste on lamenting over the grave of someone who died decades ago than to utilize it for getting knowledge through hard work and sincerity, what’s the fault of the HEC, or other citizens in that?Recommend

  • Lord J
    Apr 5, 2011 - 7:48PM

    if there’s anything i can do, i will do to stop this madnessRecommend

  • Zar Wali Khan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 8:00PM

    People respect Dr. Attaur Rahman because he is a teacher. But that should not allow him to say things in violation of constitution and parliamentary mandate. Had teachers been good at running countries, there would be no politicians. So my advice to this gentleman will be to stay-off the policy-making arena and focus on his research. The decisions of parliament are always the best.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 8:04PM

    If this devolution madness continues any longer than Punjab will be subdivided into atleast 3 new entities (Seraiki, Bahwalpur+ few others). Every tribe in Balochistan will argue with each other and produce a fiefdom for itself. KP is already divided into numerous entities. God knows what will happen in Sindh.

    Of course they will all want their own HEC. We will end up with at least 30 HEC divisions.
    Our politicians are just opportunists trying to garner votes.
    If Pakistan doesn’t exists in a few years or is just a bunch of waring tribal entities they don’t care, their bank accounts are overflowing.
    It’s the middle and lower classes that form the backbone of any country. The elite are just acting in the theater that is the national assembly.
    Save yourselves.Recommend

  • Amjad
    Apr 5, 2011 - 8:08PM

    Peoples party PPP is going to destroy Pakistan they are going to do huge damage to country every Pakistan should come forward to save Pakistan,,,,,,,,,

    SAVE HEC ,,,,,,SAVE HEC…… SAVE HEC….., SAVE HEC….. SAVE HEC.

    we hate PPP and PML-NRecommend

  • Hope QAU
    Apr 5, 2011 - 8:10PM

    Atta Rehman……… the days are gone with Mushrraf, now let the do job to the coming people, UGC was devolved no hue and cray. Mostly beneficiaries are crying.Why public money is being spent on the so called scholars,what they contribute? Nothing,just make money for themselves. They should get foreign scholarship if they are competent?Recommend

  • FB
    Apr 5, 2011 - 8:26PM

    @saleem:

    moreover, the education system should always be centralized…..you could know that if you only have suffered the pain of repeating classes just bcz you came from a different province (our country’s metric board education system is decentralized)…..therefore, if HEC got decentralized every province will start setting their own rules… and btw when anyone of us go abroad for job they mock us when they see same degree having different names like BE in electrical eng frm NED while BSC in electrical eng from UET lhr..this leaves such a bad impact of our country. This thing is happening even when the system is centralized..so just wonder what can happen if it get decentralized.Recommend

  • Habib R. Afridi
    Apr 5, 2011 - 8:36PM

    @saleem:
    Brother, nobody is against powerful administrative units. but tell me only one thing if in the future Pakistan in divided into further provinces(as movements are undergoing) then how many provincial HECs will be working with how many standards.
    Reseach and higher education are strategic and shound remain with the federal govt.
    Otherwise, what is the question of Atomic Commission and AQ Khan Research Labortory of being with federal govt. On the same line these should also be devolved to the provinces so that every small province have its own stock of nuclear weapons.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 8:55PM

    Lawyers do nothing useful, just charge inflated fees, drag cases through court endlessly but they can topple a regime.
    Teachers, researchers, educationalists,lecturers are tasked with building the Pakistan of tomorrow. Yet they are in effect disbanded and our newspapers and “elite” don’t raise a wimper.
    That’s what’s wrong with this country. That’s why if current trends persist we will never amount to anything. Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:08PM

    I think we should appeal to the army directly.
    They must understand the ramifications of this decision. We can live without lawyers. We can live without a constitution. We managed without politicians quite nicely in the past. We have managed to live without electricity. Water is often scarce, unless of course we are flooded out of our homes (thank you PPP, Kala Bagh damn decision) Bomb blasts we have taken in our stride. Appalling inflation and soaring unemployment we are unwillingly accept as a temporary hiccup.
    However try and save higher education.No country has ever progressed without education. Recommend

  • John
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:11PM

    While I agree with higher education commission view, the situation in Pakistan is very different.

    One just have to ask. What is the return on investment of HEC policy to PAK.

    Has it created technology sector growth, met the employment needs of each province, created agricultural graduates with focus on provincial need.?

    The Indian,US, and UK higher education system functions differently, and if any, in India mostly state educational institution commissions are doing a remarkable job, and the central HEC primarily focuses of policy recommendation.

    Creating PhDs does not make a scientist.

    Education is a bottom up approach, so provincial level. The HEC can function as a policy recommendation body but can not claim to be policy determining body. Recommend

  • salman tariq
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:12PM

    what can we expect out of this corrupt government.it is simply a disasterous addition in the long list of foolish steps taken by this government.its time for us to wake up.now or never.do or die.we will be no more if we remain silent over this issue.please keep your voice raised untill we get our instittion back.Recommend

  • Khurram
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:34PM

    Sir, we thankful to your contributions in Science and Technology but now our future was written by our enemies, who they do not see Pakistan an educated country and they paid to our policy makers to take U turn on education, they also very astonished that Pakistan has capabilities of Nuclear Power, now they try their best to destabilized us in different fields the HEC is the target.Recommend

  • Faraz
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:35PM

    These illitrates B.A Pass Parliamentarians dont know the importance and the role of Higher education……..and well done America for halting the aid of $250 Million as a reaction on decision of devolvong HEC by these illitrates Parliamentarians …….yeh PPP and PML(N) walay hum saree qaum ko jahil rakhna chahtay hein cuz agar awaam jaahil hogi tou hi in ko vote milein gay nai tou i dnt think so k koi well educated person in Jaahil PPP and PML(N) walon ko vote dein gay….Recommend

  • Parvez Iqbal
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:55PM

    Being a former Registrar of a University, today ( 5 April ) I participated in the protest rally in front of HEC against the government’s plan to dissolve it. A cabinet meeting scheduled for 9 April will put the seal of approval unless the students, teachers and people of our beloved country come out and speak out . The next protest is scheduled in front Islamabad Press Club on Thursday 7 April, from where I will ask everyone to march peacefully to Parliament Square. There I will announce a final protest on the day of the cabinet meeting on 9 April, where I will also through the media make a request to all teachers and students across the country to boycott classes on Monday 11 April.
    Everyone giving comments please come out and join in these protests…your beloved country is begging you to do it…please prick your conscience and do it…come out…please. . Recommend

  • TAHIR
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:56PM

    Unless we choose the right leadership, such incidents can never be stopped to happen. Our current leadership has no interest in this country, unfortunately. Their assets are in foreign countries, their children are in foreign countries, their palaces are in foreign countries, their business are in foreign countries….. So, their whole interest lies abroad. It will be extremely irrationale to expect from such people for goodness of this country.
    Cast your vote and bring change by selecting some honest and capable leadershipRecommend

  • Apr 5, 2011 - 10:06PM

    this is the worst news i have ever received. i as a student am deeply disturbed by this because it will cause havoc in the education sector which is already deteriorating thanks to corruption of our politicians. somehow, this needs to be stopped. HEC was one institution that was sincerely doing its job and this is how it gets paid off ! Recommend

  • adina
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:07PM

    shame shame shame shame on our govt.we all have to raise our voices against dis shameful act from our incompetence govt.Our govt must resigne if they dont have d ability how to run d matters of a State.These fake degree holders dont know what is the imp of education nd they also want like them the ppl of Pakistan remain uneducatedRecommend

  • Apr 5, 2011 - 10:12PM

    President, Prime minister, and etc. etc might be the very persons behind this satanic plot…Recommend

  • Mudassir feroz
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:14PM

    No doubt, this government is going to commit suicide if HEC is dissolved. This time they are challenging the power of students from all over the Pakistan and everybody knows that students are the ones if they show up can throw the bloody minds out of their Governance.

    God Bless Pakistan!Recommend

  • Sarmad
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:19PM

    very good effort indeed by Dr. Attaur Rahman. This corrupt and incapable govt. doesn’t do anything good unless someone starts kicking it hard.Recommend

  • Ghulam Nabi
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:19PM

    HEC is the face of Pakistan.HEC has given a good name to Pakistan.HEC brought revolution in the field of higher education in Pakistan.HEC is the name of transparency.we are proud on HEC performance. It should not be divolved.If it is divolved,it would be an other bad decision of the govt.
    we all must fight for the future of HEC and the future of higher educationRecommend

  • maria
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:20PM

    HEC has done great job! it should not b dissolved.. i myself am getting yearly scholarship frm HEC.. n datz a great favour fr students..we will do everythng to save hec! IARecommend

  • nadeem hunzai
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:23PM

    its is sure that where ever there thief’s in power these kind of problems will erupt. because our government and its allies are not thinking of the importance of education they will just heed on new ways of corruption.
    its simply revenge of the politicians who wants to legalize there fake degrees…. that it.. Recommend

  • imran
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:26PM

    Strongly condemn on the action of Pakistan most deadly and Hippocratic politicians, we cant call them leaders as they haven’t got the ability of calling them leaders of Pakistan.

    President, Prime Minister, Army Chief and even Chief Justice are the most corrupt and Hippocratic leaders.

    Shame on u all….Recommend

  • Sibtain Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:26PM

    Cruel attempt by corrupt politicains.
    I will just say ” Stop Politics in Education (HEC) “Recommend

  • Abid
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:29PM

    dear all. its not to be being punjabi, sindhi, balauchi or pakhtoon. its about being pakistani. we all know that pakistan needs to strengthen its primary and secondary education. the question is how can we do this??. every system has flaws but just consider how many Phds we have had before HEC? and what number is it now?
    Univerties should have enough number of PhDs so that the Mphil holders have to teach at college level and subsequently the MScs will be pushed down to school level and thats how we can improve our primary and secondary education. as we all know that teachers at primary and secondary level are not competent enough (not all but majority).
    Its a plea to government at least spare HEC from their mall intentions. in my opinion this is revenge for not bowing down to their orders of verifying fake degrees. i will end this with a quot.

    There are only two things which are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, though i am not sure about the universe. :) Recommend

  • Amber
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:38PM

    what a shame!!! HEC was making such good progress……i know so many Phds, who have gone abroad just because of HEC and continue to do well after coming bak to Pakistan..i hope this devolution is stopped b4 its too late!! Recommend

  • Ahsan Ali
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:57PM

    All the which have done by our corrupt govt and now tearing of HEc to provinces its again worst step.
    i think we students must have protest and support Dr.Atta to save the future of our nation, now no time left for sleeping… WakE Up Pakistanis..Recommend

  • Apr 5, 2011 - 11:15PM

    I would be quite clear to say that this is among the worst decision taken by the government of Pakistan.If we are to save the future of our education and and we want to develop a good and educated society this decision must be taken back .Recommend

  • Imjee
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:24PM

    I think the army chief is the “lender of the last resort”. In these circumstances, one can only look at army as all other politicians are the following the PPP agenda.Recommend

  • Naeem Qasim
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:44PM

    i feel extremely disappointed and upset to hear this. HEC in my view is one of the few organisations working sincerely in Pakistan. hope it lives forever!Recommend

  • Owais
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:58PM

    I in the strongest possible words condemn this very act of stupidity. It is very brutal to disband HEC at a time by which it has overcome all the pitfalls in the Higher education of Pakistan and was stepping to surpass all emerging developed countries in the field and science and research. Stopping funds of HEC as warning and then dismantling it to the provincial authorities are really shameful acts, if they feel it. I think in countries like Pakistan where every government is absolute monarchy, HEC should be independent. Devolving HEC to provincial authorities would only increase the inter-province grudges and hatred.Recommend

  • jahil_awaam
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:15AM

    Sad day in the history of PakistanRecommend

  • Muhammad Shahid Khan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:19AM

    I am 100% agreed with the dissolution of HEC, it will be a landmark in the development of Education of Our Country. When all the Parties have committed over the 18th amendment, then why a few people are crying now.. What wrong with them, By handing over the HEC to the Provinces will really enable the students of Poor and Backward Provinces to get higher education. More over it will make true the dream of strong federation.

    Every province should run Education in their own way… the funds allocated for the Backward provinces should be utilized for their people rather than it is to be utilized for those who are already educated. In fact, By HEC Centralized, it …is beneficial only for Punjab i think, because they are more educated than the other provinces. When there is a time for merit or competition, the people from Punjab get the benefits. Why the people from the others provinces have no right to get higher education. By handing over the HEC to the provinces, Every Province will make their own merit lists and the competition will be among the people of the concern Province.

    This is what we need. not only the HEC, all the organizations running under the federal should immediately handed over to the province. In fact its going on. After the 18th amendment, through a process its going on. This shows that our Gov’t is committed towards Provincial Autonomy. Stronger Provinces are the sign of Stronger Federation….

    So, Dr. Att, I request you, let Pakistan towards a stronger and equal for all….Recommend

  • Muhammad Shahid Khan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:24AM

    I am 100% agreed with the dissolution of HEC, it will be a landmark in the development of Education of Our Country. When all the Parties have committed over the 18th amendment, then why a few people are crying now.. What wrong with them, By handing over the HEC to the Provinces will really enable the students of Poor and Backward Provinces to get higher education. More over it will make true the dream of strong federation.
    Every province should run Education in their own way… the funds allocated for the Backward provinces should be utilized for their people rather than it is to be utilized for those who are already educated. In fact, By HEC Centralized, it …is beneficial only for Punjab i think, because they are more educated than the other provinces. When there is a time for merit or competition, the people from Punjab get the benefits. Why the people from the others provinces have no right to get higher education. By handing over the HEC to the provinces, Every Province will make their own merit lists and the competition will be among the people of the concern Province.
    This is what we need. not only the HEC, all the organizations running under the federal should immediately handed over to the province. In fact its going on. After the 18th amendment, through a process its going on. This shows that our Gov’t is committed towards Provincial Autonomy. Stronger Provinces are the sign of Stronger Federation….
    So, Dr. Att, I request you, let Pakistan towards a stronger and equal for all….Recommend

  • Apr 6, 2011 - 12:32AM

    Aoa
    The dissolvement of HEC only Goverment organization which is working properly, will take us two decades back.Look how many universites have been established fromn 2000 to 2008.The quality of education,research is prospering day by day.Pakistani universities are ranked in top 260.

    I want to ask what is the significance Benazir Income Support Programme, giving 1000 Rs and not teaching the poor any skill to earn money! Wasting Billions of rupees!

    Hec has told the truth about the fake degrees, this is the vengence taken by the goverment!

    We have to make sure , HEC remains.The only way Pakistan can prosper!Recommend

  • Patriotism
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:34AM

    @Syed Imran:
    Thank you for your words. I was really worried to read Mr. Zarghun’s words. People of our nation need to understand that division of each and every thing is not the resolution of each problem. We should remember the bad end of muslim nation in history due to such blind division. For a nation it is essential to decide many things centrally. Recommend

  • Owais
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:46AM

    @ Muhammad Shahid Khan;
    I think devolving HEC would not in any way prove fruitful towards giving more chances to people from backward areas. As of my knowledge I know a lot of people from NWFP including my relatives and friend went abroad to pursue their higher education on HEC scholarships. And of course you would be very well aware of the national outreach scholarship program from which all the people from backward areas got benefit regardless of their province.
    Having a centralized organization like HEC would strongly uphold the principles of merit. People from all across the country are invited to prove their potentials and then the one really deserving gets the opportunity (of job or scholarship). This practice will make really deserving and able people lead the dull and dunces which I think is a good omen for the future of Pakistan.
    And If you have problem with Punjab getting more benefit right now so to tell you something, dismantling HEC would not change the trend set. Again Punjab will get more funds as of its population and my Province i.e. NWFP or Baluchistan would get their part, of course less than Punjab. And then you would check the level of embezzlement at provincial level. At least I don’t trust my province i.e NWFP that they would spent the educational funds for the right purpose. They would highlight much more stupid things and would spent the allocated fund on them. Recommend

  • Patriotism
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:56AM

    @Zarghun:
    Dear Zarghun, If you are suffering injustice somewhere you are absolutely right to think to get rid of it. But being a part of this nation, we should understand that we can not ignore the -ve aspects of anything,we have to look at all aspects and then decide. this dicision about HEC will soon creat such problems to which we shall have no solution. Sitting at any particular place is perhaps not an issue. For solution of your problems with HEC, you should suggest any thing other than division of HEC so that problem of your area is solved without creating new nation-wide problems, you can suggest and try for modifications in HEC policies which solve your area’s problems without doing injustice to anyone else. I request you to make sure yourself that you are not being used for any other purpose. Perhaps the people who want to divide HEC to harm Pakistan, are making you to think like this. Your anger against any injustice is right but perhaps other people are showing you this way to solve problem to use your power for their own purpose.
    Dear, whether we realize or not but one day this time is going to become part of history and there we all are going to be considered responsible for all happenings of this era and our this sort of dicisions can be the first part of the chain of our national disaster to be quoted in history. I am afraid that once this chain of mistakes starts it can’t be stopped. I wish and pray to Allah that each person of my nation starts thinking as a part of nation. AmeenRecommend

  • adeel
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:12AM

    How can we let govt play with future of our nation? we have our full support with Dr. Ata and have serious concerns regarding devolution of HEC by the govt. Recommend

  • Apr 6, 2011 - 2:13AM

    Hi all the people in Pakistan and around the world aslam o alaikum.

    You all are requested who are/are not in the favor the HEC, should raise your voice for the betterment of education in Pakistan. Many articles have been written, especially in favor of the devolution of the HEC so major consensus reveal that presence of the HEC is better for the education system of Pakistan.

    TV talk shows and newspaper editorials have created a lot of awareness in the potential TV viewers and newspapers readers but practical progress is absolutely null and void in our Pakistani society. So for God’s sake stand firm what you see good and concrete.

    In education sector, the contribution of Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman are undeniable, and we pay tributes to Dr. Sahab for his excellency and services. During his tenure as the Chairman of the HEC, he emphasized on the need of higher education resulting in he started sending students to the various universities in abroad, which was not done in the history of Pakistan before. It is clear from the fact that the difference in developed and developing countries lies in the difference of technology. The developed countries are rich in technology. In developing countries, this gap of technology can be fulfilled by the mean of higher and qualitative education for that Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman have poured the seed in the country through the HEC.

    I urge all of you who have read these comments please raise your voice and contribute whatever you can so we can save the HEC from its transfer or abolition. This is because if the HEC is transferred to the provinces then the international awards that the HEC has earned will carry no weight age and all the efforts that have been done by different people for its strength will be ruined.

    Finally, I being a fresh student, 25, say thanks to Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman Sahab for all that you have done for this country, particularly for the HEC. Your words are praiseworthy that you expressed: ” I’ll serve my country in the year to come” in one of the article that you exchanged with AQ Khan in THE NEWS newspaper and ” I don’t want to add zeros in my account” in an interview “A morning with Farah” few years back. Again you are right as you reiterate that the demolition of the HEC will be suicidal madness.

    Hussain Memon
    Fulbright StudentRecommend

  • Apr 6, 2011 - 2:24AM

    Hi all the people in Pakistan and around the world aslam o alaikum.

    You all are requested who are/are not in the favor the HEC, should raise your voice for the betterment of education in Pakistan. Many articles have been written, especially in favor of the devolution of the HEC so major consensus reveal that presence of the HEC is better for the education system of Pakistan.

    TV talk shows and newspaper editorials have created a lot of awareness in the potential TV viewers and newspapers readers but practical progress is absolutely null and void in our Pakistani society. So for God’s sake stand firm what you see good and concrete.

    In education sector, the contribution of Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman are undeniable, and we pay tributes to Dr. Sahab for his excellency and services. During his tenure as the Chairman of the HEC, he emphasized on the need of higher education resulting in he started sending students to the various universities in abroad, which was not done in the history of Pakistan before. It is clear from the fact that the difference in developed and developing countries lies in the difference of technology. The developed countries are rich in technology. In developing countries, this gap of technology can be fulfilled by the mean of higher and qualitative education for that Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman have poured the seed in the country through the HEC.

    I urge all of you who have read these comments please raise your voice and contribute whatever you can so we can save the HEC from its transfer or abolition. This is because if the HEC is transferred to the provinces then the international awards that the HEC has earned will carry no weight age and all the efforts that have been done by different people for its strength will be ruined.

    Finally, I being a fresh student, 25, say thanks to Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman Sahab for all that you have done for this country, particularly for the HEC. Your words are praiseworthy that you expressed: ” I’ll serve my country in the year to come” in one of the article that you exchanged with AQ Khan in THE NEWS newspaper and ” I don’t want to add zeros in my account” in an interview “A morning with Farah” few years back. Again you are right as you iterate that the demolition of the HEC will be suicidal madness.

    Hussain Memon
    Fulbright StudentRecommend

  • Omar
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:31AM

    @Umer:
    Being a B. A. pass politician, how can they play with the careers and ambitions of hundreds of Ph. D. scholars. This is bad luck of Pakistan that its illiterate politicians with fake degrees have become commanding authorities. It is all due to their narrow mind vision that no stability in the country’s institutions like HEC can be expected. It is age of science and technology and their high education killing policies will lead Pakistan again to stone age. They are playing with the future of Pakistan and our future generations will never forgive them on these silly actions against Higher Education.Recommend

  • Apr 6, 2011 - 2:33AM

    Hi all the people in Pakistan and around the world aslam o alaikum.

    You all are requested who are/are not in the favor the HEC, should raise your voice for the betterment of education in Pakistan. Many articles have been written, most of them are not in favor of the devolution of the HEC so major consensus reveal that presence of the HEC is better for the education system of Pakistan.

    TV talk shows and newspaper editorials have created a lot of awareness in the potential TV viewers and newspapers readers but practical progress is absolutely null and void in our Pakistani society. So for God’s sake stand firm what you see good and concrete.

    In education sector, the contribution of Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman are undeniable, and we pay tributes to Dr. Sahab for his excellency and services. During his tenure as the Chairman of the HEC, he emphasized on the need of higher education resulting in he started sending students to the various universities in abroad, which was not done in the history of Pakistan before. It is clear from the fact that the difference in developed and developing countries lies in the difference of technology. The developed countries are rich in technology. In developing countries, this gap of technology can be fulfilled by the mean of higher and qualitative education for that Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman have poured the seed in the country through the HEC.

    I urge all of you who have read these comments please raise your voice and contribute whatever you can so we can save the HEC from its transfer or abolition. This is because if the HEC is transferred to the provinces then the international awards that the HEC has earned will carry no weight age and all the efforts that have been done by different people for its strength will be ruined.

    Finally, I being a fresh student, 25, say thanks to Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman Sahab for all that you have done for this country, particularly for the HEC. Your words are praiseworthy that you expressed: ” I’ll serve my country in the year to come” in one of the article that you exchanged with AQ Khan in THE NEWS newspaper and ” I don’t want to add zeros in my account” in an interview “A morning with Farah” few years back. Again you are right as you iterate that the demolition of the HEC will be suicidal madness.

    Hussain Memon
    Fulbright StudentRecommend

  • yasir
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:52AM

    Hi

    I don’t like this decision Pakistan need improvement in science and technology field and HEC is one of responsible and independent commission and i read past achievements i m very sad about this decision because our polition are un educated they all are had a bachelor degrees but i m 100 % sure that are all fake and they don’t want to see Pakistan young person improvement in science and culture its shamed Recommend

  • TRUE PAK
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:54AM

    HEC is hated by our political elite of bloodsuckers.this is exactly what we deserve by electing fake degree holders.Recommend

  • PIRZADO Azhar Ali ayaz
    Apr 6, 2011 - 3:18AM

    Prof Rehman and likes of him are beneficiaries of a system run by military and guided by mullah so it’s his appetite for such a system that’s why is impatient to call Army chief and chief Justice to overthrow the elected-by-people govt or destabilize the democracy…Devolution is must. chioce is yours..today or tomorrow. Quaid-e-Azam’s view of Pakistan was a federation with only 3 depts: Currency, foreign policy and defense.Rest has to be provincial dominant bureaucracy and their lotas are busy in developing Islamabad on the cost of all Pakistan…Recommend

  • Raza
    Apr 6, 2011 - 5:49AM

    @Saud Tufail:

    This is going to be and off-topic comment. I agree with what ‘Jesus’ above me had to say. Saud, you are studying at IBA and according to the HEC ranking the best business school in Pakistan is LUMS.Recommend

  • murassa sanaullah
    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:37AM

    this country is facing a lot of problems due to illetracy and poor education system i think the govt. should stop interfering with H.E.C matter and try to give more time in education, removing poverty and other important matters, instead of dissolving HEC.Recommend

  • Saeed Zaidi
    Apr 6, 2011 - 7:01AM

    HEC is the backbone of Pakistan education system. if is it closed then new generation will be illiterate. this is only due to the fake degree issue. politicians should gave resignation. instead of doing this, they close it. Shame on Pakistani politicians especially corrupted. its not necessary to write names. All know that all the politicians are corrupted. We condemn this decision and pray for take back this decision. Long live Pakistan.Recommend

  • Iftikhar
    Apr 6, 2011 - 7:07AM

    I request great leaders of Pakistan please at-least take this issue seriously and take some positive steps. Dr. sb you are very right and i pray for your national cause. Recommend

  • sana yasin
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:04AM

    Plz Stop blaming India aur USA.we ourself responsable for disasters situation.Recommend

  • HEC Schloar
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:09AM

    I strongly condemn the dissolution of HEC. HEC has fulfilled the dreams of young minds of Pakistan to achieve higher education. I completely support the remarks of Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman.Recommend

  • Sumair
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:10AM

    Govt, at what cost you sold your mother??Recommend

  • sls
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:18AM

    Benazir upon coming to power pulled out by the root Junejo’s ‘Nai Roshni’ scheme under which millions of children were learning to read and write in schools during afternoon 2nd shift.Recommend

  • M Nawaz Malik
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:50AM

    I, as a patriotic Pakistani, humbly request the PPP leadership not to shred the HEC into pieces instead they may rename it as BENAZIR BHUTTO COMMISSION FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.Recommend

  • Fiaz Ur Rehman
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:59AM

    @Zarghun:
    I read your all comments. First of all I want to ask you one question, Do you have a fake degree in your academics????
    You want something like as ‘N.W.F.P’ was replaced by ‘Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’.
    Total selection of scholars for HEC Scholarships is purely on merit basis. If a candidate from Baluchistan is the strongest in his/her academics he/she will be on the top of HEC list. So try to improve your academics and be on the top.
    HEC should not be devolved and government should increase higher educational budget for our socio-economic development. Everyone should think for the future of Pakistan not for your town, city or province.

    Regards! Recommend

  • Engr. Mohsin Raza
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:11AM

    Althoug I dnt believe in conspiracy theories, but looks like you either are from India, or an activist of PPP. Shame on your existence. Such a narrow minded analysis and only a profile of the reality, you perceived. Poor you!
    The higher education commission has proved its excellence in imporving the number and the quality of universities in Pakistan. When the rest of the world is accepting the revolution made by HEC, who the hell is interested in what you believe! Poor You! @saleem: Recommend

  • Najaf Sajjad
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:18AM

    Higher Education Policy Making and authority to Ensure its equal standards all over the country must reside central in a federal institution as it is now. Shifting Higher education policy and monitoring matters to Provincial Governments would be a crime towards higher education in Pakistan. I request President and Prime Minister of Pakistan to intervene and save higher education of Pakistan, a blossoming field enabling Pakistan to compete internationally.Recommend

  • TAHIR IQBAL JADOON
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:50AM

    The decision of dissolving Higher Education Commission of Pakistan was bound to come as HEC failed to placate the Fake Degree Holders and our Government Functionaries, who have been facing cases in the courts and their candidatures have been nullified. No doubt HEC is playing pivotal role in boosting higher education in Pakistan but at the same time we need to consider our Primary and Secondary Education as well. The decision of Government of Pakistan is biased and is certainly based on malafide intentions. We read in between in the lines as to why the Federal government is annoyed with the HEC. Recommend

  • amir
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:12PM

    @Critical Thinker: Hay Azhar Shah, you critisize on every thing as per your habit. be positive man and don’t think negatively. Imran don’t take the words of critical thinker(azhar) serious. he has always non serious attitude.Recommend

  • samar baloch
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:49PM

    The question “why there is no university in backward areas?” should be asked from Flag Bearers of Democracy (Waderaas, Sardars etc.), who don’t allow to establish even a single primary school in their Kingdoms … so whole “Pakistan” is not responsible for absence of universities in such areas. Fortunately big cities are not located in their estates, therefore they can have universities. So this is the revenge of feudocracy (not democracy) against HEC.Recommend

  • A
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:59PM

    It seems the govt. will destroy every department, which comes in their way. Recommend

  • A
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:00PM

    Why we voted and elected these corrupt MNAs and MPAs ?Recommend

  • haziq
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:17PM

    it is deem sign of sorrow for whole nation …who hell is this that some culprits dissolve the Higher education commission for their personal inters..its time to come that we are going to lost globally recognition… Recommend

  • Israr Ali Khan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:32PM

    Is there any Sector under Provincial Government who is contributing anything ? Give me only one example, Police? Hospitals, Schools? Colleges? No…. Not a single sector. Govt, our corrupt leaders wants the same for HEC, because if middle-class Students get Higher Education then definately they will not select these Wadaraas, Zardaries and Jagirdaars as leaders again…Shame on GOVT……I am an HEC scholar from middle-class family and I understand the value of HEC, I slute you Dr Atta..Recommend

  • A.Baloch
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:47PM

    @ Zarghun; HEC is the only institution which has granted scholarships on merit. I am one the reciepient and the university where I am there are more Pushtoons than anyone else on these scholarship.If this doesnt convince you then I am Baloch and I wouldnt imagine getting a scholarship if this was done my ministry of Interprovincial Affairs or S&T.All these scholarships were there but I like many others never heard about these let alone try to get one. As far as devolution goes then US is true federation but it still has Dept for Eduation as well as Federal agency for grants. HEC is being devolved because they didnt verify fake degrees of our ignorant politicians. The inequality you are talking about, HEC was actually helping to reduce it by training manpower in all the four provinces on equal basis. Recommend

  • Faisal Riaz
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:07PM

    Army is the real arm and rest is armpit.

    If we run through history, dictators were more ambitions and did more well to the state than politicians – the illiterate class of massesRecommend

  • Rafi
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:12PM

    For about last decade, only degrees along with ignorance are awarding instead of education. Pakistan is producing thousands of master degree holders, while minimum of them have skills to move in challenging environment. This is all because of HEC, that play only a role of funding body. HEC must have to play a role of viginess/ sneak a look into other areas too.
    Especially in the area when HEC goes to enroll private Universities. HEC doesn’t have any check on any private university regarding examining body or admission criteria, Lets have an example if a candidate pass his/her bachelor degree (simple BA) in 7 or 8 years because of not passing English paper in many chances. After that if u meet the same candidate just after 2 years then he/she will have MBA/MCS or any other professional master degree. This credit goes to HEC that never feel to have a check on Universities like Sarhad, Iqra, Preston, Cecos etc

    I am not in favor to come to an end of HEC, but need to improve performance in many areas. By shifting the role of HEC to provinces will cause to raise more corruption.Recommend

  • Muhammad Siddique
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:34PM

    Shame on Pakistani Leadership!!!!!Recommend

  • Javed Ali
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:46PM

    Please Stop this devaluation of education.We must stand togather to Save HEC. Some people want to make the intelligencia of this nation the whore of currupt politician.Recommend

  • Sana Naseer Shaikh
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:52PM

    According the new announcement of HEC, it’s really very tragic for everyone, removal of HEC means demolishing education system of Pakistan. This is all due to weak democracy and their leadership. Now its a time to stand against this wrong act, because of HEC, there are so many students able to get study ,they get scholarships. It’s beneficial for teachers in raising their funds and salaries. If HEC is wiped out then it’s means thousandths of people loss their education perception, fees expenditure rises and its difficult to afford get education in a normal way. Stop this ignorant because those so called leader who were against HEC just want to save their seats in politics because their degrees are fake. So save HEC to fulfill their duties, if we Pakistan educated and flourished country in all over the world.Recommend

  • Zamir
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:08PM

    This is insane. Unfortunately, when we cannot do anything good, we get bent upon destroying the existing good institutions. HEC is really doing well and has earned respect world over. As far as provincial autonomy is concerned, there could be better ways to promote less previliged provinces and generating better opportunities for them. No one can stop a person from Sindh , KPK or Baluchistan if they are on merit though. Let us raise our bar for intermediate education to go well along with the higher education standards. Also, qouta system or a similar mechanism can be introduced to encourage participation and opportunities for sending students to foreign universities based on area population and base education opportunities.
    But, please be united and think of Pakistan as a country to benefit, do not divide yourself for others to rule.Recommend

  • Imme
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:39PM

    who the hell want to progress in this country .. everyone is trying to dig up graves ..these politicians deserved to be shooted without mercy right in head so no chance to escape ..
    you expect them to understand the value of higher education in this country when majority of them have fake degrees …
    stop messing around with HEC as for sure you even dont know what does it stands for . Recommend

  • Curmudgeon
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:53PM

    Why should we care so much about HEC. It discriminated against people having Arts and Humanities degrees. Even Social Sciences were neglected by HEC. Under Ata Ur Rehman HEC mostly favored people holding Natural Science degrees. HEC has no mechanism for understanding the needs of various disciplines. Nothing inter-disciplinary. Only an obsession with engineering! Many of these tecnhocrats heading HEC’s various departments have no idea of the general education needs of the country. They have poured money only into sciences and have yet failed to produce any scientific mind or sensibility in society.Higher Ignorance Commission needs to be restructured and headed by some real educationist not by narrow minded specialists.Recommend

  • Curmudgeon
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:53PM

    Why should we care so much about HEC. It discriminated against people having Arts and Humanities degrees. Even Social Sciences were neglected by HEC. Under Ata Ur Rehman HEC mostly favored people holding Natural Science degrees. HEC has no mechanism for understanding the needs of various disciplines. Nothing inter-disciplinary. Only an obsession with engineering! Many of these technocrats heading HEC’s various departments have no idea of the general education needs of the country. They have poured money only into sciences and have yet failed to produce any scientific mind or sensibility in society.Higher Ignorance Commission needs to be restructured and headed by some real educationist not by narrow minded specialists.Recommend

  • Qaiser Majid
    Apr 6, 2011 - 5:11PM

    I am crying after reading all this, May Allah help us because we dont have power to stop our politicians who are making these types of policies. Each & every day Pakistan is going down & down.Recommend

  • Ms. khan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 5:32PM

    i think we should collectively raise a voice through writings and tv programs and this initiative of govt. will completely ruin our education system within Pakistan and we will go back to old orthodox system…. plz unite and let us stop this initiative of gov…. Recommend

  • amir
    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:18PM

    @Murtaza: what the hell you’re talking about. you, telling lies just like politicians ? Only few out of hundreds of scholars escaped. Check the list of defaulters on following webpage:

    http://hec.gov.pk/InsideHEC/Divisions/HRD/Scholarships/Pages/DefaulterScholars.aspx

    count the numbers of defaulters carefully and tell me how many they are ? out of hundreds sent by HEC abroad for study…Recommend

  • samar baloch
    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:22PM

    @A.Baloch: me too is baloch but studying in switzerland. Initially, I came to France on HEC scholarship. Got 2nd postion in M2 Chem. in UBO France, left HEC scholarship (so that another student could come on my scholarship) and accepted swiss govt. scholarship. BRAVO HEC…Recommend

  • Sajid
    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:24PM

    Such a shameful act by our government. Instead of following similar examples to improve our basic education, the government has preferred to destroy whatever good is left in our education system. I was in UK pursuing my doctoral studies (under a different scholarship programme) between 2006-2009. My Indian colleagues were really amazed to see such high investment by HEC resulting in numerous Pakistani scholars studying at reputable universities. Of all that I knew benefitted from HEC scholarships returned back to Pakistan. I strongly oppose such a move by our government and implore our Chief Justice to take a suo moto note of it.Recommend

  • Shahzad
    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:40PM

    Aslaam-0-Alikum,

    HEC is checking the degrees of our so cold politicians. Don’t you guys think that the supreme court must take notice of destroying HEC.

    Some one else can also give an application in supreme court to stop destroying HEC.Recommend

  • psychked
    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:58PM

    The thing is there is no point destroying the HEC. There has to be an overall governing bbody for higher education. wouldnt it be nbetter to create smaller hecs in the provinces and all sit together under the HEC umbrella.

    @posterabove. Karachi can buy its own natural resources from other countries it makes enough
    money to that. we have the sea we can generate electricirty from it, salt water can be reclaimed to potable water thtat solves water issues all in all khi can survive independently. no problem.

    Grassroots education needs attention but there must be expertise to develop that and that cannot develop on its own unless there are people who are specifically trained for that. So sacrificing higher education for grassroots education is a fallacy. The students can only be as good as the teachers if the teachers are good the students will be good.Recommend

  • Engineer Bacha
    Apr 6, 2011 - 8:14PM

    This is true HEC is the only hope for development of the people of pakistan.Currently nothing left in our country except HEC.Please take care of the people of pakistan.Dissolvotion of HEC will collapse the education system in PakistanRecommend

  • Hamad
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:07PM

    God, could it be possible Yusaf Raza Gilani is a bigger idiot than Mushraff?I feel like crying.My minds made up I’m voting Imran Khan/Mushraf.NOW will you STOP voting for the PPPP/ML(N,Q)? What more will it take? We have been sold down the river by TRAITORS.This man gets more outrageous by the day.General election now. Get this lot out now.For God’s sake Yusaf Raza Gilini, shut up! Of all the problems facing sold out Pakistan.Did to a country that spends billions of $$$ yearly on its military and nuclear arsenal.What about us????Recommend

  • M. Yousaf
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:31PM

    HEC has waisted a lot of money on useless projects without planning. The total expeditures of HEC are more than any university of Pakistan. The role of the HEC was to provide funds to the universities and monitor it.
    there is not an inch of land at HEC where an office and a Director General is not. The persons who can not be appointed even as an Assistan Profesor in a University are getting high salary packages in lac of rupees and going on foreign trips. Now they are in trouble and are asking the teachers and students for protest.
    A large number of intellengent graduates have been sent to various countries without any planning. No one knows what type of topics or projects they are doing. Wether this research is useful for Pakistani industry or not? How many of them will return back. [ In Zia Government thousands of scholars were sent abroad on higher studies under S & T Scholarship scheme, majority of them never returned back]. An other fraud is hiring of foreign faculty at high salay packages, people who could not get proper jobs after their education and were ruuning shops are driving taxis have been appointed in universities.
    The HEC has totally failed in raising the standard of education. An independent COMMISSION or ENQUIRY COMMITTE should be constituted to probe into the matters of HEC and carry out an audit of the expenditures. It is being said Dr. Atta Rehman was geeting a salary package of more than 20 lacsin addition to the expenditures on his foreign trips. Recommend

  • M. Yousaf
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:36PM

    The provinces will be in a better position to monitor the working of universities because less number of universities will be under their control. Moreover, the universities will get more frequent contacts with the local offices.Recommend

  • Baboo
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:43PM

    I feel sorry for our legislators. Nations build their institutions to make progress and we are hell bent on destroying them. HEC is paying the price for not verifying the fake degrees of legislators,Recommend

  • Noman Ahmed
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:49PM

    Higher Education Department Is Being Dissolved – I think this is a very bad act only for the reason that HEC people will be displaced to other departments but as far as HEC’s role is concerned, I think HEC is only catering the need of one specific segment of society, HEC only promotes higher education, what does it mean, catering some people of Pakistan which are less than 0.25% of Pakistan’s Population or even less, What about the rest of the 99.75% population? – Now the question arises does these people return something to the country in such a way that 100% population gets the benefit – The answer is simply “NO” – If you look closely, the people who are getting benefits from this department gets very good job, drives 1500cc car, lives in elegant residence, frequently eats in Pizza Hut, KFC, Arizona Gril,l 5 Start hotels, wears expensive dresses, designer wears, even expensive lawns etc this is good but this ultimately creates jealously among the the people who are below poverty line thus 2 new sections of society emerges, one segment is “Khuddar – (Having Self Respect)” who tries to do 2 or 3 jobs at a time, one job in morning, other part time job in evening, one job on weekends etc still they are not getting enough amount to cater their families, second section took illegal arms and start robbery and crimes which increases street crimes, so at the end, HEC is disturbing the whole equilibrium of the country – I also think that HEC should be dissolved and it should be converted to another department using the services of same staff – LEC “Lower Education Department” and promotes education right from class 1 and above, in this way the whole nation will be benefited – The moto of this LEC should be that every Pakistani must gets basic education.Recommend

  • Nasir
    Apr 7, 2011 - 12:08AM

    It is the time to come forward and unite against these curate politician. I am very disappointed and not from the young and educated people . hope they will not disappoint Pakistan education system and come stand against theses people.Recommend

  • Ahmad Safi
    Apr 7, 2011 - 12:29AM

    The decision to dissolve HEC is nothing short of a suicide bombing… the attacker knows that this act is self destructive… But then again like all drone attacks and suicidal bombings are government approved, so is this one!

    Shame on our government… This may just be the last straw!Recommend

  • M.Iqbal
    Apr 7, 2011 - 12:59AM

    It’s a shame. HEC has been doing a wonderful job over the years. It may have short comings but then which institute does not have, even the elite funding institutes of the USA, Canada, like NSF, NSERC have their own issues and they have to grapple with them. It does not mean that such places be just taken apart.
    Being a graduate student myself (not on HEC Scholarship) I can tell how much HEC has contributed towards improving the standards of the Higher education in Pakistan. Go to any university of Pakistan and I assure you be it in Baluchistan or interior of Sindh of the far flung areas of KP you will find new faculty members with innovative ideas and enthusiasm to teach and do research. You will find a new an ambitious crop of fresh PhDs who are coming back to Pakistan to make a difference to the lives of the people. They got education at the best places in the world and are equipped with the skills and knowledge that will shape the future of this nation.
    The tenure track system launched by HEC has been successful in attracting talented Pakistanis from around the world by offering good salaries and incentives. Our old guard did not like it and are still furious about it.
    Ever wondered why South Korea and Japan have become the top economies of the world. Their key to success has been that they invested heavily in Higher education and research.
    Having lived in South Korea and studied there I can comment more about their education system. They launched almost similar programs as of HEC and sent out students abroad on scholarships who mostly came back and did the build the universities like KAIST, SNU. They publish high quality research in world’s leading journals, ranked amongst best in the world and now attract top researchers from West who come in flocks and to do their research work in these institutions.
    This is the kind of vision which we need to develop. Develop a critical mass of highly qualified personnel in all the fields be it sciences, engineering, social sciences, medicine or art. We are doing exactly the opposite and it is very distressing and painful.
    Ever wondered what will happen to more than 5000 PhD scholars abroad and those who have returned back. Many of the HEC scholars are already very disgruntled and dismayed at the Govt. who stopped the funding of HEC due to which many were unable to pay their tuition fees or manage living expenses. Many had to take menial jobs just to survive. How many of will be coming back to Pakistan on finding that their parent organization is no more there. HEC has been able to get funding from prominent funding agencies including US-Aid, DAAD, World Bank etc for the uplift of Higher education sector, faculty training and PhD programs in Pakistan and abroad.
    We need to build institutions not to destroy them. We need to think objectively and logically about this nation rising above all the differences we may have. I am all for provincial autonomy and the uplift of the neglected areas but should it come at the cost of destroying all the good work of a functional institute who is shaping a better future for us all. Recommend

  • M.Iqbal
    Apr 7, 2011 - 1:05AM

    Some one mentioned about the ranking of the universities.

    I am not a fan of the ranking system however, it has become the norm these days. so here is the link,

    UET Lahore (281 in Eng n IT)

    http://www.topuniversities.com/institution/university-engineering-technology-uet-lahore/wur

    NUST (271 in Eng n IT)

    http://www.topuniversities.com/institution/national-university-sciences-and-technology-nust-islamabad/wur

    Regards Recommend

  • Apr 7, 2011 - 2:56AM

    Prof. Atta did some excellent piece of research, outstanding scientist and much great respect for him.
    The time has arrived to discuss drawbacks in your policies, HEJ and Your Junior influential HEJ (HE JAIL).
    1- As a Professor how many students are allowed to supervise here at HEJ. When I was there for a short period of time, I do remember there were more than 60 students of Prof. Iqbal and double for your own supervision. Because every student supervision was also contributing some extra money for supervisor.
    2- In 2000 -2001, HEJ was in a state, full of corruption (Alam group and others), political and politics was involved than research.
    3- Institute was under full control of Prof. Iqbal and he was right person for you.
    4- This was realized that this was not worth to stay longer and had luckily awarded DAAD fellowship in order to carry further research at Federal Republic of Germany.
    5- As soon as Prof. Atta became the Chairman of HEC, many incentives were offered to sleeping community of research and teaching. The quality was not maintained either, more greed was involved in these professors.
    6- HE J having roots of corruption then became the master of corruptions. Iqbal group became millionaire in few years, bought new bunglow near Malir Canntt; however I remember he use to live in a 240 yard semidetached house.
    7- HEJ cars and drivers are devoted to pick and drop her family members, kids from school etc.
    8- The worst situation is that I became the victim of such HEJ professors. They did all their best to destroy carrier of a young determined scientist. They really made my life miserable, destroyed the educational carrier. That’s the HEJ professors can do, no science, no research, only dirty politics.
    9- I was having only option to go for self funded ph.D scholar and I fulfilled my dream to be chemical doctor.
    10- HEC had only supported candidates who can answer the low or high standard 2+2 type questions.
    11- During my bad time, I and my academic supervisor also requested to help towards the cost of living or fees, but HEC team had refused to help at any stage. How do you expect the return after completion of degree?
    12- There is gap, drawbacks in your planning and political / educational jealousy in your Institutions.
    How we will progress in research and developments?
    13- A foreign scholar wish to work in your HEJ Institute, in comparing less efficient had appointed for the post Interm Placement, but mine case was refused because professional jealousy.
    His Excellency Prof. Atta, Very sorry to say your plans are going to be failed because of many reasons. How a foreign scholars will deliever, if he / his family has not been provided any basic facilities of life. Will foreign scholar will deliver / prepare his lecture under MOMBATTEE!
    We have to think about the base, This is worth time to make the pillar stronger, deeper and free from political / educational victimization. Prof and Student should have the habit of tolerance, and just society.
    Let us make the tolerate and just society…….

    Dr. Naseem-ul-Ghani Qureshi

    0044-7502161905 Recommend

  • Sundas
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:55AM

    Salaam!
    This article has borne both a good news and a bad news for me. Good news:Pakistan had been faring well and way beyond my expectation. MashaALLAH! Bad news: it’s being sabotaged.We have a long way to go, and obstacles come in every great journey a nation undertakes. Keep your faith strong, HEC, Rabbana Ma3ki! I believe one thing HEC needs to focus on is to channel more human resources into Educational fields, for despite our improvements, there is a dire need of strategic, intellectual, and visionary planners needed to bring the education in Pakistan to a higher, sounder level, iA!Recommend

  • Shaheen
    Apr 7, 2011 - 9:01AM

    Atta-ur-Rehamn is true to his history: he helped dictator in usurping the constitutional and political rights of people of Pakistan. He helped Musharraf to build institutions to enrich only a small fraction of urban elite. This time Atta-ur-Rehamn is advocating against the 18th Amendment which promises people of Pakistan provincial autonomy.Can he tell one single argument in favor of HEC. Is HEC a center of research and excellence. HEC is simply a bureaucratic organization. Atta-ur-Rehman employed his cronies in the HEC administration and these HEC officials have no research credentials yet they are getting hefty salaries. So Atta-ur-Rehman will protect the jobs of cronies. It is matter of shame for Javaid Laghari being from smaller provinces is playing in the hands of Atta-ur-rehman and undemocratic lobbies. HEC is piling loans after loans in foreign exchange and misspending on the higher education whereas it would be more productive if we focussed on primary and secondary education. Let democracy and provincial autonomy prevail.Recommend

  • M. Yousaf
    Apr 7, 2011 - 9:48AM

    This all propaganda is sponsered by HEC officials who are getting high salary packages and enjoying foreign trips.
    A special audit of HEC should be carried out.
    You do not give space to the comments which are against HEC.Recommend

  • saleem
    Apr 7, 2011 - 2:03PM

    Out of more than 10,000 HEC scholarship (both domestic and foreign), Sindh Receives 892, KPK receives around double of Sindh, Baluchistan may be less than 100 while Pujab receives CLOSE TO 8000 Scholarships. Sindh Education Minister (see link below)

    http://ejang.jang.com.pk/4-7-2011/Karachi/pic.asp?picname=99.gifRecommend

  • Usman
    Apr 7, 2011 - 2:35PM

    My heart cries when I read these things, these people run our country like they have conquered it. Recommend

  • Karim Aman
    Apr 7, 2011 - 2:59PM

    I strongly protest against the short sighted decision of dissolving HEC by a group of individuals who lack vision, character and understanding of national needs. If without paying taxes, looting the national wealth your children can study in the Oxford and Harvard, then as a loyal and law abiding citizen of the country who pays his taxes as a moral duty demands immediate reversal of the illcited decisio. Recommend

  • Shafiqur-Rehman
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:05PM

    We teachers and students condemn the desolution of the HEC. We think it will really adveresely effect on the quality of eucation in grauate and post graduate level in Pakistan. So it is reqested to all the responsible authorities to back the decision of the HEC desolution to save the future of our generation.Recommend

  • A common Pakistani
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:19PM

    I think this is time to think and act as a Nation. HEC is symbol of Quality Education. If it is broken then our edcation system will be paralised and become ” Ghar ki loundi” servent of Politician. They will use it as their tool. Then degrees are awarded on their approval. Every politician will be highly qualified, they have so many masters but they are not capable to write a single sentence of english. The whole nation has observed it so many times on TV. So I request you all to Support the HEC not any person. I request all intellectuals please come forward and lead the nation in the right way for Quality Education. I request all Educationist please come forward and do something to SAVE EDUCATION SYSTEM of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Owais
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:29PM

    @ Zarghun;
    I think devolving HEC would not in any way prove fruitful towards giving more chances to people from backward areas. As of my knowledge I know a lot of people from NWFP including my relatives and friend went abroad to pursue their higher education on HEC scholarships. And of course you would be very well aware of the national outreach scholarship program from which all the people from backward areas got benefit regardless of their province.
    Having a centralized organization like HEC would strongly uphold the principles of merit. People from all across the country are invited to prove their potentials and then the one really deserving gets the opportunity (of job or scholarship). This practice will make really deserving and able people lead the dull and dunces which I think is a good omen for the future of Pakistan.
    And If you have problem with Punjab getting more benefit right now so to tell you something, dismantling HEC would not change the trend set. Again Punjab will get more funds as of its population and my Province i.e. NWFP or Baluchistan would get their part, of course less than Punjab and to make things worst you will see that Punjab will spend 80% to 90% of their allocated funds on education and NWFP or baluchistan will use only 30% to 40%, And then you would check the level of embezzlement at provincial level. At least I don’t trust my province i.e NWFP that they would spent the educational funds for the right purpose. They would highlight much more stupid things and would spent the education-allocated funds on them i.e. They will say; “People here are dying of hunger, they don’t need research” or “We really want to save people’s lives so before educating them we must protect them so better we use our funds on Law and Order situation.” So Think Big; My brother…!!! I know there are great educationists in NWFP but the ruling parties know only HELL about higher education..:(:(:(Recommend

  • Apr 7, 2011 - 3:32PM

    It is one of the most weird act by this incompetent government. I think it is the first time in the history that not even a single person from the nation would be supporting the “elected” members.Recommend

  • Hidayatullah Jan
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:41PM

    Government has dissolved the higher education commission as they say that in 18 amendment it is written that education ministry will be transfer d to the Provence.in my view this will hurt our education system very badly now the political parties are opposing, i fail to understand the policies of political parties. why did they did not raise their voices when 18 amendments was implemented?
    HEC should not be finished. the education system should also remain with the federal government. Govt must improve the quality of education by finishing different exam boards such as o-level board,Aagh Khan board, Sindh Board, Punjab Board instead of finishing HEC. Almost 30 educational boards are responsible for conducting different exams. the first thing to be done is that there should be one education board and experts of this board must be taken on board to form a proper and up to date syllabus.
    many people says that the government is dissolving the HEC because there will be authority after HEC to check the statues of the fake degrees.
    i appeal the people to protest government’s decisions and demand one education system of the whole of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:44PM

    @Shaheen:
    That passage sounds as though it has been written by Zardari himself.
    If the HEC was so corrupt why have international organisations such as the World Bank, IMF, US aid organisations offered it loans? These same organisations now are now shifting their spending habits to target private educational institutes and skip provincial governments all together because they are so inefficient.
    The urban elite do not use the services of the HEC. The Bhuttos, Zardaris, Sharifs of this world pay for themselves. The major recipient of HEC grants are the lower/middle classes. They are duty bound to return to Pakistan and work in a HEC funded role; there are very few absconders.
    All HEC processes are tranpsarent. People with the greatest merit get the money.If you are accusing the HEC of funding rubbish research, then that unfortuantely is the best Pakistan has. It’s pertinent to note that many foreign educational institutes, including the Royal Society have praised the HEC. So where is your proof that it’s rubbish?
    In provincial educational departments, bureaucrats control everything and much of the funding never does reach it’s intended recipients.
    Every bit of HEC budget can be tracked down to salaries for academics, fees for students etc.
    Provincial education budgets are wasted on ghost schools and teachers, set up by influential people to siphon off funding. This has been pointed out time and again by independant observers.

    AQ Khan, Asgar Qadir, and many other Pakistan’s most eminent scientists have supported the organisation.
    Are these people all cronies of Rehman sahib?
    On the opposing side, the people arguing for these changes are politicians, who spend the equivalent of 20% of the HEC budget on lodges. Do you call this miss-spending? Are these the sort of people you trust? Our democratic saviours sprouted such lies that it makes any decent person cringe. A good portion of them lied about their qualifications, something that is anthema to people who value education. are you trusting these people with the future of education in this country?Recommend

  • Hidayatullah Jan
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:51PM

    @Usman:
    Dear!
    HEC is being targeted just for only one reason: the institution did not bow to the pressure of the politicians. the fake degrees scandal that shows the worth of various politicians brought credibility to this department for being straightforward in its approach. politicians who now just want to rip off it into pieces. Recommend

  • saad
    Apr 7, 2011 - 3:53PM

    I am shocked that in this day and age some people still think that the route to development is via killing merit and promoting narrow minded tribal quotas. Thankfully they are clearly in minority. One question to those who want higher education to go to provinces: all provinces already have secondary education in their control. What did they achieve through it? As a an ex resident of sindh I know that govt education in sindh is horribly destroyed and low standard vs. Punjab. What makes you so sure that provinces will be able to secure scholarships in good foreign universities and funding for research with their pathetically abysmal record of running education? Unfortunately no decent foreign university will give you support, funding or scholarship because of your ethnicity or loyalty to a grave in garhi khuda bukhsh. He famous indian universities like iit follow very strict policy of merit and as a result india is shining in science, computers and technology. Please support a strong merit based institution like hec and ask your provincial leaders to work on raising the standard of secondary education in provinces so that everyone gets fair shot at research funds and scholarship. This is the true way to serve smaller provinces.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 7, 2011 - 4:25PM

    @saad:
    Well said. Unfortuantely there are too few of people like you in this country.
    Provincialism, tribalism are not the way forward. The country achieves nothing by sending mediocre student abroad just becuase their fathers are very cosy with the PPP hierarchy or belong to a certain tribal/ethnic groups.Good students on the other hand bring back valuable knowledge and kudos to our country.
    I remember listening to one of the founding fathers of Singapore.Sending students abroad for study was the route taken by many east asian economies. However the Lee Kuan Yew chose to send many students to Australia because at the time they had a racist settlement policy and they were forced to come back!!!
    Very few people have absconded, and looking at some that have one does feel some empathy with them. Some women obviously got married and found themselves in situations where they could not continue. Recommend

  • Owais
    Apr 7, 2011 - 5:41PM

    @ Shaheen;
    1) Do you think Dr. Atta has developed HEC with Musharraf just for the sake of urban elite? I am sorry to say that this statement of yours is absolutely diabolical. The reality is goes diametrically opposite to what you think. In fact HEC has directly helped mediocre and bourgeois class in higher education.
    2) Your 2nd comment (Is HEC a center of excellence in research);
    Of course HEC is the center of excellence in research as applauded by Royal Society and other great organizations. It is only HEC that has instigated the surge of research and higher education in Pakistan, its a naked fact. But if you still think HEC has not brought excellence so just glance at your higher education a decade ago, where were we?
    3) If you think HEC guys have no research credentials, you may be right but they are far better than those who are going to be responsible for your degree recognition under the cabinet division.
    4) To spend funds on primarily and secondary education;
    In fact without higher education and research you cannot emerge as a developed country nor can you compete with the rest of emerging countries. And managing a degree after secondary education may only let you enter the parliament and fight the dirty politics, but its a matter of going beyond that. We are ready to get loans from IMF and let them go to personal accounts and pay higher taxation but if the loans are being spent on education, we feel absolute distress.
    5) Let Democracy and Provincial Autonomy prevail;
    What democracy are you precisely talking about? If your democracy means crushing the nation’s future for the sake of staying in power, I ‘d definitely pray for an honest dictator. As far as the provincial autonomy is concerned, if it did happen Pakistan is going nowhere. Baluchistan is dead right away and NWFP after some time. besides, You will see the inter-province grudges and hatred.Recommend

  • Syed Rizwan Hussain
    Apr 7, 2011 - 7:20PM

    The decision taken for the devolution of HEC is a shameful way to take action against the most renowned and prestigious isntitution of Pakistan which has done well and is doing great for the betterment of our higher education system, research and technology. The decision has come up very rapidly and seems to be taken in a hurry which shows the maturity of our leaders to take such an important decision which can affect not only the future of our poor people, and nation but also our country Pakistan.

    We strongly oppose the devolution of HEC and request our Govt. to reconsider their decision in order to make sure the continued progress in the field of science and technology.Recommend

  • AAMIR
    Apr 7, 2011 - 8:27PM

    The urgent need for any under developed nation is to make the building blocks towards education, Health Sciences, Social-politico-Economy & state of art technology. these are steps must be put in a front side to demolish the naked-eye on the prosperity & advancement. thus the need was necessarily to be initiated for the betterment of the entire nation. Dr Atta-ur-Rehman was the rare who not only professed the science & technology, but also edified the corner-stone by the dictator Gen.(Ret) Pervez mushuruf.
    No-doubt the entire nation laid towards the lower rate of literacy, but gave birth the another milieu for new World Millinium order. Now the team consisting with Chairman writer by-self(Pro. Dr Atta-ur-rehman), Dr A Q Khan, Dr Samer Mubarrak Mund & many more, again trying save the nation towards the ebb. here is great concern should be fell again to establish the firm stand for the HEC to innovate & renovate it, also sense the responsibility to continue it for next generation who coming for the national cause & good-faith. Recommend

  • Apr 7, 2011 - 8:44PM

    This is really bad step taken from the government side.
    HEC has achieved a landmark for educating people on higher leve and providing funds and scholarships.But this institution is thrown away in to politics now.
    We must effort and protest against this bad decision. Recommend

  • YY
    Apr 7, 2011 - 9:43PM

    now this is the right time to strive in order to chuck out the evils which are actually eradicating the good things from Pakistan,, Long Live HEC & Pakistan!!!Recommend

  • adil
    Apr 8, 2011 - 12:04AM

    PPP slogan is Roti, kupra aur makan. So dissolve the HEC and distribute the funds among ppp hardcore party workers. I remember in 90s PPP govt recruited teachers in KP who were nt only their party workers but also only Matric pass or third grade graduates. I know ten guys myself and they paid 5lakh each to mpa in Abbtabad. PPP name should be CPPP, CORRUPT PEOPLES PARTY from their leader to their workers.Recommend

  • Cheetah
    Apr 8, 2011 - 12:13AM

    these politicians are wondering how could we take hold of these peoples Roti kupra and makan. Education , sorry never heard of it they say. Thats why they say degree is degree no matter if its genuine or fake. These poticians disgust me. There is not a single person im MLN AND PPP who is eligible to govern, they are all badmash. Our biggest problem is that we have bunch of corrupt, politicians who are sucking our blood.Recommend

  • Iftekhar Shaikh
    Apr 8, 2011 - 3:07AM

    what dr ata has pointed about ranking of three unis, karachi uni ranking is based on HEJ which was doing well without HEC and was already world recognized, similarly Quaid e Azam university physics deptt which has notables like Dr. Hoodbhoy even before HEC and were doing well.NUST was always expected to do well since military infrastructure since British era and all resources and labs were available to them. If for a moment one consider that it is only due to HEC then why not SZABIST , GIKI or NED are on world rankings?

    Politicians are elected representative they have right to devise policies and regional HECs will only ensure participation of all of the population unlike past practices largest province will not take share of other smaller provinces as out of 10000 scholarship just 800 were awarded to Sindh which are much lesser than the population ratio.

    It is very shameful of Dr. Ata asking of military chief intervention perhaps he missing the lap of disgraced Mush or has forgotten the treatment of Professors at the hands of military personnels at NUML and Bahria university. why not he has issued a statement in the favor of those professors.Recommend

  • PPP
    Apr 8, 2011 - 7:45AM

    What we are expecting from fake degree holders, corrupt mad politicians. They would probably laughing at the peoples who commented here, they know that we can not do anything no matter what they do. No revolution in Pakistan could come ever. Poor slaves of these politicians vote them every year and they dnt need our votes to stay in power. They say keep them illiterate or they will demand their rights.Recommend

  • Revolutionary
    Apr 8, 2011 - 8:00AM

    Guys lets join the cause ” save the HEC ” on face book. Enough is eough , lets start taking our country back from these corrupt monsters. They are like a parasite. Do not expect anything good from them, thats what we have been doing since the last many years now.Recommend

  • george
    Apr 8, 2011 - 8:12AM

    Yet again our leaders have shown incapability to run the country, they always keep personal interests ahead of national interest. They will give funds to their party workes on provincial level , they have no interest in increasing the quality of education. The reason i m a failed person despite of doing masters is becaz this third class education system could not give me skills to earn and live a better life. These politicians are bunch of criminals who takes control of power by using poor peoples in their constitutencies and give them false hope and hollow slogans.Recommend

  • Apr 8, 2011 - 9:10AM

    No it’s not….this is just another corrupt government entity. HEC is all about money….education is the last thing they care about….and I know this for a fact.Recommend

  • Sajjad Malik
    Apr 8, 2011 - 11:04PM

    Prof. Atta is not forgetting the position which he was enjoying in the MUSHRAF RULE. He has waisted a lot of money on HEC. ECas failed to achieve its goals. A COMMISSION or INQUIRY COMMITTE should be constituted to carry out the audit of HEC. HEC is atoal failure. No contribution to the nation except they have sent the cream students abroad who will never return back.Recommend

  • tariq
    Apr 8, 2011 - 11:20PM

    i think its a very bad decision govrnment should think about itRecommend

  • Arslan
    Apr 9, 2011 - 1:00AM

    @saleem:
    agreeed wid u bro 100%Recommend

  • Muhammad Jawad Shayeq
    Apr 9, 2011 - 5:28AM

    Someone said that, “Education has produced a vast population able to read but unable to distinguish what is worth reading.” Same is the case with all those ministers and cabinet officials who are GRADUATES & degree holders, but they don’t know the importance of education. Today education is a key organisational resource and for every profession one has to heavily depend on educated individuals who bring profit to their businesses with their innovative and creative minds and on a broader scale, a country benefits from all these educated citizens who play a vital role in the development of their Motherland. Why on earth these democratic and elected representatives do not understand this common fact that (GOD forbid)this can be a major disaster for our developing economy and nicely restructured higher education system. For GOD sake, stop abusing your power as your own generations will suffer from this corruption !Recommend

  • Voice of Right
    Apr 9, 2011 - 7:48AM

    I am ashamed of reading the comments of a few people writing in the favor of HEC devolution. These are the people who cannot appreciate the good work by others and always think about themselves, not even trying to get out of their narrow tunnel. We are HEC funded and selected group of students who are studying abroad and I don’t see anyone of us or seniors who stay here after finishing their PhDs. All went back to serve their country. The person who criticize HEC’s policy is actually afraid of criticizing himself and himself is a FAILURE as he must have been failed to get scholarship ………

    I have no words to condemn these narrow minded people who try to exploit the provincial prejudice in order to overcome their failure and protect themselves from the fear of success of any other person or institution like HEC. I don’t know personally Dr. Atta ur Rehman or Dr.Javed Laghari but I know them by their good works in regard to Higher Education.

    May Allah protect this institution, this nation, country and give wisdom to people who forget that the benefit and progress of country comes first than their own benefits ~~~~Recommend

  • Zubair
    Apr 9, 2011 - 1:08PM

    PPP is the one who damaged the total education systems through nationalization process and in road to recovery of standards, once again PPP is creating hurdle to hide their deficiency and politicizes education systems.

    Pl Stop it!

    If Pakistan zinda hai to Bhutto zinda hai!Recommend

  • SUMBUL
    Apr 9, 2011 - 1:54PM

    @Critical Thinker:
    i am much disappointed when i see people like you please come out of your pathanism, punjabism, etc. be a muslim be a pakistani. this is only needed to have a prosperous nation. do not support HEC’s devolution just for the sake of provincialism. think for pakistan, think for your students and your future. support HEC asit has given your country a lot of gems. do your level best to stop this action.
    i hope that if we become united and stand for our country tomorrow will be much brighter than today. Recommend

  • SUMBUL
    Apr 9, 2011 - 2:00PM

    @Muhammad Jawad Shayeq:
    to be really true they are actually cleaning up the path for their VERY OWN generations.
    Bilawal, Munis, Hamza. these are the brilliant future leaders of Pakistan. :)Recommend

  • Ammar Hassan
    Apr 9, 2011 - 3:04PM

    @Haya:
    Good.Am Also Agree with you…. Because our provinsional Govt’s are not able to handle it easily…..Recommend

  • Muhammad Jawad Shayeq
    Apr 9, 2011 - 4:50PM

    @Sumbul : I know where you coming from but they say “sometimes you get trapped in your own net”, and so is the case with all these corrupt leaders. History of Pakistan proves that whoever has done or tried to do anything bad to this country, LORD has never forgiven those people and world has seen the way they died. Ashfaq Ahmed sahb (late) mentioned something which literally means that, Pakistan is similar to the oontni of PROPHET SALEH (AS) and whoever will try to plan anything against this, will surely find ALLAH being on the other side and will get punishment in the life here and after. Recommend

  • Quratulain
    Apr 9, 2011 - 8:07PM

    Assalamalikum Sir 1st of all I will appreciate your hope your will to save HEC ….really we student who are going to be future scientist initially lost our hope when we hard all about this madness but but when we saw your contribution to protect HEC from all this madness a new hope evoked in us …. I red all the comments I will say this is not the issue of punjabi pakhtoon ,balochistani student this is the issue of all student whole over pakistan who are gatting schlorship … By this madness student will be only who will be affected ….Today we have power of writing …and we student can protect HEC from this madness if not whole but a little bit by writing …..Recommend

  • Abbas
    Apr 9, 2011 - 9:36PM

    Its tear flowing articles. Where are we going. Sad in fact very sad. Not in a single article written on emerging economical markets , Pakistan name appears. Our corrupt politicians are murdering us. We need to think and unit on serious nod.Recommend

  • samar baloch
    Apr 10, 2011 - 12:33AM

    whenever PPP peoples see any child going to school, they feel a big pain in their hearts and asses. Thats why they are trying to do such thing to HEC. Pakistan Peoples Party has no vision, no regard for science and technology, and education, and they has nothing to do with the future of pakistan. Recommend

  • samar baloch
    Apr 10, 2011 - 12:36AM

    @Zubair: whenever PPP peoples see any child going to school, the feel a big pain in their hearts and asses. Thats why they are trying to do such thing to HEC.
    Pakistan Peoples Party has no vision, no regard for science and technology, and education, and they has nothing to do with the future of pakistan. All PPP people want is money in Swiss bank accounts.Recommend

  • Aurang Zeb
    Apr 10, 2011 - 10:41AM

    HEC was the great achievement of previous regime and HEC should remain intact at Federal level for our nation’s future because education is the back boon of any nation, global fact. why are you adding the regional or provincial flavours in it ?Recommend

  • zafar
    Apr 10, 2011 - 3:39PM

    We always stands for hec whenever we live in the worldRecommend

  • Hafeez ur Rehman
    Apr 10, 2011 - 5:59PM

    Well i not that much worried about the devolution of HEC. Main concern as how will the allocation of funding be formulated. Population?…. then small provinces will suffer for the next 30 years. Professors are taking Lacs just for teaching mainly and only few of them are involve in real hardcore research projects which can benefit the poor.
    How will the new HEC units recognize themselves throughout the world. I know HEC has its remarkable affect in different international education forums. (Here i agree with Dr. Atta ur Rehman).
    I know what is made of Pakistan’s semester system. Teachers do not cover whole of the courses in six months. (Students will agree). will HEC be the same victim? too much concerns.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 10, 2011 - 6:22PM

    The present government has totally lost it!!!Recommend

  • Zubair
    Apr 11, 2011 - 2:10PM

    @Hafeez ur Rehman:

    My Dear Hafeez sb.,

    Please think as unit, if HEC devolution then allocation of funds will base on how much fund to be allocated to PPP monsters (be aware)? What had happed after nationalization of schools and colleges?

    Save HEC!

    Regards
    Zubair RehmanRecommend

  • MS
    Apr 11, 2011 - 3:04PM

    Wake up Call for the Pakistani nation…………..

    Wake uppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
    …………………………………………….Recommend

  • Engr. Baqer Khan
    Apr 11, 2011 - 8:27PM

    You are right sir.HEC has done tremendously in improving the educational standard of Pakistan.Every year bright-minded Pakistanis are sent overseas with the aim to bring them back to the country after completion of their studies and they are bound to convey their knowledge to other youngsters.This was only possible because some honest, hardworking and sincere Pakistanis are running the HEC. I express my gratitude to the HEC and every Pakistani should do.I salute the Commission for audaciously uncover the facts that most of the people at the helm of affairs possess fake degrees.Shameful ! I warn the govt to refrain from their motives to destroy our educational standards otherwise we may never be able to raise again.Recommend

  • Apr 11, 2011 - 10:24PM

    goverments are not thinking with sncerly.Recommend

  • Aftab
    Apr 12, 2011 - 8:57PM

    I am deeply concerned over all the mess that the rulers are going to do with HEC. There was a remarkable difference in Higher Education and that was all positive but these semi-illiterate rulings elites are only taking revenge for not giving a false verdict in favor of fake degrees of these so called representatives of common people in assemblies. They are all the same as every politician has sent his or her child abroad for studies but they can’t see normal people getting higher qualification and on merit. Please someone stop them from doing this educational terrorism to all Pakistani Youth…..Recommend

  • Hameed
    Apr 13, 2011 - 3:05PM

    @Zarghun:
    Dear Zarghun,

    I am 62 and you look to be in 20s, like my son, please please and please do not be a part of these politicians. Education always clears the mind and what HEC did it was an achievement for Pakistan. You may be right but understand that our politicians will never never again never like that our nation should be educated. As this is against their mentality and cultural back ground from which our ruler belongs. These Zamindars, Jagirdars, Waderas, Maliks, Sardars are enemies of education.

    My advise is to you that being STUDENT think as a student, Education is your right, and HEC has opened a new doors to the education in Pakistan. Please defend this door first then fight for entry to this door. Please realise the importance …..

    I hope that you have understood and Insha Allah your next step will be for education only. let allow this education to enter Pakistan. When it enters Pakistan then please debate, demand, claim or struggle that it should be in Khyber PK. When you will stop its entry to Pakistan then how it will enter Khyber PK. We suffered a lot please now take a positive approach.Recommend

  • Hameed
    Apr 13, 2011 - 3:13PM

    @SUMBUL:
    You are correct, these dirty political leader ship will divide students in punjabi, sindhi, pathaan, balochis. They are criminal minded people and will never like to get educated this nation. As their belong to the mentality of Zamindar, Jagirdar, Waderas and Sardars. They always created hurdles to even primary educations. How can they accept higher education now. How can they accept the incoming 5000 Phds in Pakistan. They need slaves and slaves are available in Jahalat.

    My request to the students are that please think as student. Education is your right. Future is yours. But do not divided yourself in provincialism. Please Please Please be UNITE. Otherwise we will lost hope from you being future leadership of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Apr 13, 2011 - 7:13PM

    By the way most of the student on HEC scholarship try to stay abroad and do not return back to Pakistan …
    ”Mr S, listen HEC grants the scholarships only to scholars who are committed to serve Pakistan and for that purpose they sign a written afreement”Recommend

  • Farooq Baloch
    Apr 14, 2011 - 1:20PM

    @Hameed: I completely agree with you. Our politicians have criminal mentality.Recommend

  • Sonia
    Apr 14, 2011 - 2:32PM

    Though the decision of devolving HEC is controversial, so is its performance and many decisions it took. And though we all may criticise what govt plans to do with HEC by making another selfish decision, it only goes to say that faulty decisions are centre of our problems. Funds that came from all over the world should first be directed to primary and secondary tiers of education. Instead, ridiculously, our policy makers focuses on increasing university enrolment (without taking much aptitude into account) while millions of children go without education or those who have access are forced to sit on the floors…
    No matter what they decide, it somehow perplexes anyone with a brain cell or two.Recommend

  • shahzada alamgir
    Apr 14, 2011 - 6:25PM

    it is fact that muslim of the bright past got the highes of success due to great deep attention on the field of science and teconology.the miseries which they thay are faceing is only , due to their neglegance of in the eduction and risearch. hec is a revival for these efforts to get the real road map of success, that road map is only consists of the path to set off science and teconology. hec is a mother institution , and if that institution is playing a vital role in flourishing the heigher education justicetly than there is no need to desolve itRecommend

  • che
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:25PM

    Its true that the current move must be reconsidered but having said this doesn’t absolve Mr Rehman of his previous blunders and corruption in the form of favoritism made in the HEC in the previous regime. Recommend

  • Anam
    Apr 24, 2011 - 3:58AM

    I agree with all what Dr. Atta ur Rehman said…!!!
    I say …Please do help Pakistan to grow even in this single field, don’t let this opportunity for our future prosperity to be disappeared.
    The HEC Pakistan should be allowed to maintain its functioning as it is, instead of dissolving it and making the new ones at provincial level. Because it would be more suitable to struggle for the betterment of existing HEC rather than loosing this one and dreaming to build a new organization for higher education. Recommend

  • sunny
    May 18, 2011 - 7:01AM

    At the beginning of the last century, the power of nations might have been measured in battleships and coal. In this century it’s as likely to be graduates.
    There has been an unprecedented global surge in the numbers of young people going to university. Among the developed OECD countries, graduation rates have almost doubled since the mid-1990s. China’s plans are not so much an upward incline as a vertical take-off. In 1998, there were only about a million students in China. Within a decade, it had become the biggest university system in the world.
    Figures last month from China’s education ministry reported more than 34 million graduates in the past four years. By 2020 there will be 35.5 million students enrolled.
    The president of Yale described this as the fastest such expansion in human history.
    Inextricably linked with this expansion has been another phenomenon – the globalisation of universities. This global network is the way of the future, says John Sexton, president of New York University.”There’s a world view that universities, and the most talented people in universities, will operate beyond sovereignty.
    “Much like in the renaissance in Europe, when the talent class and the creative class travelled among the great idea capitals, so in the 21st century, the people who carry the ideas that will shape the future will travel among the capitals.
    “But instead of old European names it will be names like Shanghai and Abu Dhabi and London and New York. Those universities will be populated by those high-talent people.”
    We have to work hard inorder to meet the world community. Lets build more universities in Pak. I am Stockholm and I Prif who has made the project with Pakistan to build KTH campus in Sailkot is stoped due to regime change, Please pay attentaion on it. It is real defence and we with the help of this can construct many Radar systems to see future infiltratation………Recommend

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