India says no peace talks with Pakistan if Hurriyat leaders involved

Published: August 22, 2015
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A file photo of Indian External Affairs Minister Swashma Swaraj. PHOTO: AFP

A file photo of Indian External Affairs Minister Swashma Swaraj. PHOTO: AFP

NEW DELHI: India will cancel planned peace talks with Pakistan if their top security adviser insists on meeting Hurriyat leaders from the Kashmir region, India’s foreign minister Sushma Swaraj told reporters on Saturday.

“We welcome Sartaj Aziz to come to India and request him to not involve Hurriyat or any third party and only talk on terrorism,” said Swaraj in a press conference in New Delhi, according to NDTV.

The meeting that was agreed on in Ufa did not have Kashmir on the agenda, the minister added.

“If you’re willing to come, we welcome you, but come to talk on terror as agreed in Ufa,” she said. “Pakistan has time till tonight to give an assurance the talks will only be on terror. If Pakistan does not agree, the talks will not happen.”

Read: ‘Ready to visit New Delhi without any preconditions’

The national security advisers (NSA) of Pakistan and India were scheduled to meet in New Delhi on Sunday and Monday, but with both sides trading charges, talks were increasingly looking doubtful.

Earlier in Islamabad, Aziz, adviser to the prime minister on national security and foreign affairs, said he was “still prepared to go to New Delhi for NSA talks without any preconditions”.

Meanwhile, according to sources, if the NSA-level talks are cancelled, the two advisers are likely to meet in New York at the UN General Assembly session in September.

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  • ajeet
    Aug 22, 2015 - 4:52PM

    Checkmate?Recommend

  • harkol
    Aug 22, 2015 - 4:57PM

    Modi govt. had set a Redline last year. Hurriyat, a discredited bunch of leaders in Kashmir, who have a ultra-islamic, separatist demand, will not have locus-standi in talks between India & Pakistan.

    Kashmiri people haven’t elected them, and India doesn’t recognize them as a party to the issue with Pakistan.

    But, Pakistan can keep talking to them, and try their luck to regenerate uprising again. After all that is why we have phones and skype!!

    But, Indian govt. can hardly approve of such perfidy anymore. Thus it can’t happen in Delhi, while official talks have to happen.Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Aug 22, 2015 - 4:58PM

    what about the terrorism orchestrated by RAW in Pakistan? who is going to talk about that?
    Looking at her face, look like all the world curse has fallen on one lady :)Recommend

  • Parvez
    Aug 22, 2015 - 4:58PM

    Swashma Jee looks pretty menacing…….should we be intimidated ?Recommend

  • Aug 22, 2015 - 5:07PM

    The message is clear. Recommend

  • Pakistani Dude
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:07PM

    Cold feet at the last moment? Recommend

  • shahid
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:10PM

    Yes, so stop the talks.. Only when Hindus-tan wants to start, let them come to Islamabad; Recommend

  • Baloch
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:18PM

    PAKISTAN wants to talk on RAW TERRORISM AND KASHMIR TOO, BUT before talks,india house arrest kashmiri leaders and capture indian guy from border area and make it pakistani terrorist just like ajmal kassab and PIGEON , TO SABOTAGE THE PEACE TALKS..what a cheap way, INDIA DON’T WANT PEACE.!Recommend

  • khan_ji
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:23PM

    Lol modi thinks the world is so dumb and cannot see what he is upto. Game is truly on. If you look at the pre-conditions to be the permanent membet of Security Council, here goes out of the window the dream to be bigger king of region than China, even not having toiletes at most homrs. Lol. Checkmate!Recommend

  • straightshooter
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:26PM

    Good to see India walking away from the Kashmir issue. Adds value to Pakistan’s stance.Recommend

  • Huma
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:26PM

    No Hurriyat leaders ok then enjoy Pakistani flags being raised in Indian Occupied Kashmir :) Recommend

  • Prakash
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:30PM

    Doud hide in Pakistan Recommend

  • SAEED PK
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:46PM

    Terrorism in the region is because of dispute on Kashmir so meeting should be focus on only Kashmir. If Kashmir issue is resolved other issues will be resolved automatically. Recommend

  • Jalal
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:46PM

    @Pakistani:

    what about the terrorism orchestrated by RAW in Pakistan?

    You mean this?

    ISLAMABAD: Law-enforcement agencies
    raided a seminary late Thursday night
    and took three men into custody for
    their alleged role in facilitating the
    assassination of Punjab Home Minister
    Col (retd) Shuja Khanzada, police
    sources said.

    This is not RAW this is your own doing.Recommend

  • Rashida
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:47PM

    @Parvez
    Hindu women are strong, free and bold. Even Indian Muslim women are stronger and bolder than our counterparts. They have just announced they reject triple-Talaq for divorce.Recommend

  • Ali
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:51PM

    Don’t hold talks with India. They are not in a mood. This is anyway going to be a rubber stamp on peace talks.
    Let Modi take the tough stance but the world can clearly see they are creating hurdles.
    Pakistan has been meeting Huriyat leaders since, like forever. Why the heck they’re having issues now.
    Clearly India is not in a mood for peace or good relations.Recommend

  • usman777
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:53PM

    Good.Recommend

  • Bahubali
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:55PM

    It suits India.Already 10 times bigger than Pakistan.Keep growing at 7-8% and in few years game will be over.Recommend

  • Dr Aftab
    Aug 22, 2015 - 5:59PM

    The old mindset in both India and Pakistan can not solve the outstanding issues and cannt work for the betterment of each country people. In past era, Musharaf was a broad minded leader. He tried to bring change in the region with a compromise on Kashmir policy. However he was not successful due to old mindset in the New Delhi. Congratulations to that old mentality now winning on both sides. Recommend

  • rp
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:01PM

    kashmir is no issueRecommend

  • Aamir - Toronto
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:11PM

    @Dr Priyanka…..Muh may ram ram aur baghal may shuree “A sweet tongue, but a hand ready to stab in the back”…..this is the message we have been getting from Indians.

    Shame on you guys, for how long you will continue to deny the basis human rights to innocent Kashmiris. Indian is the worst place on earth and its current leader is simply a D-bag !!!! Recommend

  • Bahubali
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:18PM

    @khan_ji You are talking as if ISI will decide who will be UN security council member. Few days back we all saw what happened when you did not invite J&K assembly election.Boss India is 10 time bigger than Pakistan..10 time. Who will oppose India..India’s economic growth puts everybody on his side.Recommend

  • think
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:21PM

    why in every country pakistan only deals with non state actors.-kashmir(hurriyat),afghanistan(taliban),bangladesh(al-badr leftovers ji) . why o why?Recommend

  • Baloch
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:28PM

    ANOTHER cheap way to sabotage, ANOTHER U-turn, ANOTHER pigeon like story and AGAIN afraid to talk about RAW TERRORISM IN KASHMIR AND PAKISTAN. Recommend

  • KashmirIsKing
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:29PM

    Kashmir according to Indian Constitution article 370 is a disputed territory and is a geo-political issue that needs to be resolved by India, Pakistan and Kashmiris. Indian External Affairs Minister assertion that discussion will only be on terrorism is nonsensical as it is India’s responsibility to address law and order issues inside its borders.

    If Modi government is unable to manage its own land, then failures can not be dumped on Pakistan.

    If they have arrested someone they believe is from Pakistan involved in terrorism then they just need to proceed as per their criminal proceedings. Similarly if they believe they know mumbai attack king pin is then Interpol can be contacted for help.

    But Indian government would not do any of these simply because their brinkmanship style of government only knows one thing and that is to blame others for Indian government failures. As soon as Bihar elections are over, Modi and his advisers will go quite on terrorism charges against Pakistan. Recommend

  • Aug 22, 2015 - 6:31PM

    This is wishful thinking that Pakistan should not discuss Kashmir. indian politicians, its media and politicians should stop day dreaming and bullying. No more joy rides for india. They should know that Pakistan will never take Dictation from india. Its Pakistan’s prerogative whether it should meet Hurriyat or not. Now that ball is in india’s court.You decide if you want meeting whether you like it or not. Recommend

  • Juggernaut
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:40PM

    Nice and clear message….to pakistan.Recommend

  • Punjabi munda
    Aug 22, 2015 - 6:47PM

    From now onwards pak should talk to hurriat only regarding visa, bilateral cricket series issue,,no need to talk to IndiaRecommend

  • akram sohail
    Aug 22, 2015 - 7:02PM

    you cannot solve the terrorism issue by isolating it from kashmir issue .Because the colonisation of kashmie by India is a fact and ISIS is intrudibg in kashmir in this pretext.Recommend

  • ghazal
    Aug 22, 2015 - 7:04PM

    @khan_ji:
    sahab : under which rock you live, even in Arab world India has better perception than Pakistan. don’t be victim of social conditioning (mubashir luckman or dr masood show). it is perception management where Pakistan has lost most. Recommend

  • Vectra
    Aug 22, 2015 - 7:05PM

    @khan_ji:
    “modi thinks the world is so dumb and cannot see what he is upto”
    Modi is very much aware of world,just take a look at US media,ther campaign is going on to declare pakistan hostile state and US govt says it has threatened to stop military aid and has withheld PM Nawaz visti to US.So simultaneous strike is going in from US and India and UAE and Afganistan.So you think Modi dumb but i would say sartaz and nawaz are dumb.Recommend

  • SB
    Aug 22, 2015 - 7:16PM

    I think Sushma Swaraj has articulated it nicely. Want to talk? Then talk only on terror. Else enjoy the pleasant weather in Islamabad. Recommend

  • Brar
    Aug 22, 2015 - 7:29PM

    She displayed the ufa joint statment and there is no mention of .Kashmir only talk on terrerorism and the could have raisred involvement of RAW which they claimed inall terrorism in pak but they have no proofs but proofs reg dawood are irrefutable.Recommend

  • Karachite
    Aug 22, 2015 - 7:31PM

    Swaraj VS Sartaj…and the twain shall never meet. The name looks so familiar though. Recommend

  • Nitin
    Aug 22, 2015 - 8:01PM

    @Pakistani:
    The NSA level meeting was intended for discussion on terrorism only. If both NSA would have meet there could be chance on discussion on terrorism from both side. But Pakistan has childishly ruin the opportunity. Recommend

  • Arif-Lahore
    Aug 22, 2015 - 8:01PM

    @Aamir-Toronto

    “India is the worst place on earth”

    It looks like you have escaped to Canada and fanning hatred and bringing more misery to poor Pakistanis. Recommend

  • Salman Hussain
    Aug 22, 2015 - 8:21PM

    You can cancel meeting but can’t win heart of Kashmir people…. Recommend

  • sunil singh
    Aug 22, 2015 - 8:25PM

    very good move, common people in both country very happy,? think friendsRecommend

  • Aug 22, 2015 - 8:35PM

    do not talk with indian because Indians are not interested to talk with pakistan Indian’s people are not like pakistan (country)Recommend

  • Aug 22, 2015 - 8:39PM

    do not talk with indains because indains are not interested to talk with pakistan(country) indain people are not any talk with pakistan (country)Recommend

  • R.Subramanian
    Aug 22, 2015 - 9:09PM

    One thing everyone is forgetting, last year when India cancelled the meeting, at that time Sartaj Aziz said, if India had informed us little before, we would have avoided meeting Hurriyat, since invitation has been sent to Hurriyat leaders, they are on their way to Delhi, so unable to stop the meeting. This is what Sartaj Aziz said last year.

    This year same Sartaj Aziz is insisting that we will meet Hurriyat leaders otherwise no dialog with India.

    This clearly shows Pakistan does not want the dialog on terror, so it put all kinds of hurdle to Indian Government to cancel the meeting. By doing like this Pakistan is not going to gain in the world, Pakistan is going to loose its face one more time.

    Being Pakistan’s neighbour is a curse, if there is any magic power, Pakistan should be moved away from India and put close to China in South China sea, since Chinese and Pakistanis are good friends so they can live peacefully with each other. Entire South Asia region will be happy and peaceful without Pakistan.Recommend

  • International agreement
    Aug 22, 2015 - 9:41PM

    Does anyone in Pakistan remember anything about the Simla agreement they signed that explicitly says that no 3rd party out of India and Pakistan be involved???Recommend

  • The Book Says
    Aug 22, 2015 - 10:53PM

    @Karachite:

    Good one :-)

    Swaraj – Self-rule
    Sartaj – Crown

    One represents people, other the aristocrat. How they they meet?Recommend

  • Khan
    Aug 22, 2015 - 11:05PM

    The Ufa statement said ALL issues related to terrorism will be discussed. Was india so naïve to think kashmir would not be brought up, as kashmir dispute is at the heart of all disputes?Recommend

  • Azi
    Aug 22, 2015 - 11:08PM

    @Bahubali:

    Yeah you are right, in a few years after all that prosperity, if Indian leaders are silly enough to attack Pakistan hoping for a victory India will indeed be a crater along with Pakistan. Yes game will be over by then.Recommend

  • Karachite
    Aug 22, 2015 - 11:53PM

    @The Book Says:
    Yes true…well defined. Raj and Taj are indispensable to each other, new connotation here. Together they can rule the world but…Alas!!!Recommend

  • Kkk
    Aug 23, 2015 - 12:10AM

    Does anyone in Pakistan know about the Simla agreement ??Recommend

  • omair
    Aug 23, 2015 - 12:43AM

    So far both countries have not resolve the matter of Kashmir, how could Pakistan and Indian Government stop the heavy budget spend to train a soldier to stand on their borders..thing is Army Budget cannot be kicked like that Sirtaj and shushma know this but they can not say it on media forum.Suprizingly true!Recommend

  • Aug 23, 2015 - 12:52AM

    Dipak@Parvez: you better.Recommend

  • Salim Khan
    Aug 23, 2015 - 6:58AM

    Just watch her Press conference and you will see how clear and precise Indians are. That is why they play diplomacy so well,compared to Pakistan.Recommend

  • shahid
    Aug 23, 2015 - 8:48AM

    Sartaj vs Swaraj My bets are with Swaraj.Recommend

  • Baloch
    Aug 23, 2015 - 11:49AM

    She’s too ugly to have peace talks with. Recommend

  • Fizza
    Aug 23, 2015 - 10:54PM

    The way Indians are fearful of discussing Kashmir issue with Pakistan, it is clear they have nothing to discuss. You only have this attitude when you know, you are wrong. Recommend

  • ajeet
    Aug 24, 2015 - 1:53AM

    @Baloch
    Just shows the misogynist mindset your group is famous for.Recommend

  • wb
    Aug 24, 2015 - 5:09PM

    @Aamir – Toronto:

    “Muh may ram ram aur baghal may shuree “A sweet tongue, but a hand ready to stab in the back”…..this is the message we have been getting from Indians. ”

    Sau chuhe khake billi Hajj ko gayee. This is the message we’re getting from Pakistan.

    Shame on you.Recommend

  • Appan
    Aug 24, 2015 - 7:16PM

    @SAEED PK: Yes. But forum to discuss K Issue has to be at the highest political level and definitely not at NSA Level. Recommend

  • Rameez
    Aug 24, 2015 - 8:21PM

    @Huma: we are kashmir we are pakistanRecommend

  • Rameez
    Aug 24, 2015 - 8:24PM

    @rp:
    kashmir is main issue lol we kashmiri never accpet that we are endiansRecommend

  • Rameez
    Aug 24, 2015 - 8:28PM

    @Fizza:

    endia are trying to play hide and seek and ignore k-issue …..Recommend

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