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'Confession documents' of Tariq Mir alleging Indian funding of MQM are fake: London Police

Metropolitan Police spokesperson says the purported confession statement is not official document of record.

Web Desk June 30, 2015

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The London Metropolitan Police on Tuesday denied that a purported confession statement by Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Tariq Mir was an official document which had been leaked, BBC Urdu reported.

According to Metropolitan Police spokesperson Alan Crockrford, after reviewing the purported testimony carefully, confirmed that they were not official documents of record.

In the short e-mailed reply, he said that the London police had carefully analysed excerpts from this alleged confession, printed in various newspapers of Pakistan.

In the purported testimony of MQM leader Mir, which were 'leaded' online, it had been alleged that the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) had been receiving funds from the Indian government since 1994 with only four top leaders kept in the loop.

The alleged statement lends credence to the BBC report published on June 24 about two MQM leaders telling the British authorities about the MQM-RAW nexus. One of the statements, by Mir, containing startling disclosures about the relationship between the top party leadership and the Indians surfaced in the local media on Saturday.

This article originally appeared on BBC Urdu

COMMENTS (76)

George | 9 years ago | Reply @Malveros: What are you saying? I don't think anyone who can operate a PC or a smartphone can come up with such an assinine logic. What you're trying to suggest is that the London police are in cohorts with RAW now. What next? How powerful are you planning to make RAW to deceive people. From the reading I've been doing it seems that MQM is disliked by many and it seems the state is also quite hostile to them. This whole story is nothing but a political stunt to malign MQM and blame India in the process.

Sumit | 9 years ago | Reply who cares..!!! When Zaid Hamid has already declared this new true.

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numbersnumbers | 9 years ago | Reply BTW, all should note that NOWHERE is the heavily redacted document available for viewing on any Pakistani media site, which is rather suspicious since I would have expected Shahid Masood to have provided copies for the media to publish BUT HE DID NOT!!!!! We are left to wonder if those "documents" could not withstand any scrutiny by interested parties!

Hasan Askari | 9 years ago | Reply They said that the document (with the redactions) ‘is not part of their offcial records’. They can neither confirm nor deny the contents. Funny that the BBC also stand by their story that MQM was funded by India. To above comment and all such comments who are trying to spin this story in their favor If it is not in their record then of course they cannot confirm or deny it because it is not their document and unlike our country people in developed nations only comment on something they are authorized to do so or are aware of. So as far as London police is concerned this does not exist and since the accusation was that it was from london police it is a fake. Do not try to spin a simple statement. They should not comment on such rubbish. However if taken to court and asked they will elaborate further.

Kash | 9 years ago | Reply @ layman @ unbelievable : In layman terms, Say I have a Passport (ex US) in my possession. Some one asks the U.S. authorities to check if you have such passport iin your system and their response is that no such such passport exist in their system .... Then what does the response makes the passport in my possession? Fake or still questionable for its content? if if doesnt exist officially means it's fabricated/fake.... For you Jaali!

Kash | 9 years ago | Reply @Aalia: great response.

Kash | 9 years ago | Reply @Kam: how are they diff? If its not part of their record then how is it not fabricated and shown in Pakistan media? It's existence in Pak media doesn't make it real? Why would some one voluntarily give out such info when not even being investigated for such issue. Common sense.

Kash | 9 years ago | Reply @omer: if do s don't exist in their record then what does it mean? :) - it's true because pakistan media showed it?

Kash | 9 years ago | Reply @Layman: huh?? They are saying no such docs are part of their record then how is it not fake? :) don't let your bias take over some common sense. Why on earth a member voluntarily give out such info without being questioned on raw ... Investigation was regarding the murder case so where did the raw involvement question came in this interview?

jay | 9 years ago | Reply all such reports against India too are fake. but noone is there to report these in pakistan

Ibrahim Bashir | 9 years ago | Reply very sorry state of the poor un credible media of Pakistan to have believed in BBC blindfoldedly

Khalid Mirza | 9 years ago | Reply The cunning Punjabi brass think they can do anything. Their foolishness cost Pakistan half a nation in 1971 and they are again trying the same tricks in Sind. Their plan has backfired again.

Rao | 9 years ago | Reply This is an old story when individuals can be blackmailed, made to work as double agents, betray friends and the country and work. For foreign powers. They are induced by money, fame, sex , power etc. So don't jump to conclusions. This is an interesting story of conspiracy, mystery and spy crafts etc. So take it easy.

jaffersheriff | 9 years ago | Reply Disappointment for Musharraf, who always lie about India and MQM.

Nine-Zero Forever | 9 years ago | Reply The original report touted by the agencies and the Punjabi media didn't even pass the commonsense test. They tried to paint a picture that Mohajirs were basically pro-India and that was totally unfair. An attempt was being made since the last few years to cripple Karachi and move businesses to Punjab. The only way that the Punjabi power-brokers could have seized control was to destroy MQM. They tried everything and failed. Now MQM will emerge even stronger and the fault lines will get wider. A similar experiment happened in 1971 and because there was no accountability then, the same games are being played now.

Luciferous | 9 years ago | Reply @Hasan Askari: "However this shows that God exists." So Almighty God puts the business of whole Universe on hold and jumps in Altaf's corner of the ring! No one else in the world trivializes the Almighty as much as we Pakistanis do by dragging Him into our pathetic petty fights!

Brar | 9 years ago | Reply Mubashar Lucman who calls him self a fearless jouranalist must be ashamed after watching this news report, he is not a jouno but hate monger and now I will expect those who were labeling MQM anti Pak and were also saying a lot about India must come forward and apologise. Shame on all of them. The leaders from MQM in talk shows were crying that we are not traitors we are as much Pakistanis as every one else and give sacrifices if need be but no one was ready to believe them. First the same people compelled Bengalis to ask for Bangladesh but they have not learned any lessons.

Shiv | 9 years ago | Reply @Parvez: not till now when they confirmed it was fake. Till then every Pakistani was dancing with glee!

mahakaalchakra | 9 years ago | Reply @Layman: Axactly

K B Kale | 9 years ago | Reply @Hasan Askari: Bade sahab, baki sab theek hai, magar is chakkar mein bagair zaroorat RAW ko kitani oonchai par bitha diya sab trollswalone! Jo kabilayat RAW ne aur hum Hindustaniyon ne khwab mein bhi nahi dekhi thee woh aap logon ne bakhsh dee. Mujhe bhi bahut achchha lag raha that ki hamari RAW bhi ISI se kam nahi hai, par hai kambakht sachchai itni jaldi bahar aa gayi aur hum neend khulke uth gaye!

alllie | 9 years ago | Reply its a police collision report. See the pattern youll understand MetPolice text stationery template: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent.met.police.uk%2Fcs%2FSatellite%3Fblobcol%3Durldata%26blobheadername1%3DContent-Type%26blobheadername2%3DContent-Disposition%26blobheadervalue1%3Dapplication%252Fmsword%26blobheadervalue2%3Dinline%253B%2Bfilename%253D%2522428%252F808%252FForm%2B518B%252C0.doc%2522%26blobkey%3Did%26blobtable%3DMungoBlobs%26blobwhere%3D1283712916859%26ssbinary%3Dtrue&ei=xCOTVfH4A4PvUtzIgNAE&usg=AFQjCNGFmNrc4vpT0qAqD73EmN1Yghgf0g&bvm=bv.96952980,d.d24 … All these documents making airwaves are fake, i believe! Im for across the board extermination of criminals but kindly dont make an ethnic community suffer and dont overshadow their honesty as some bigots call the generations of those who left their homes during partition to come to Jinnah's Pakistan!

kamal | 9 years ago | Reply But the biggest media gun, the mouthpiece of this discredited Govt, GEO would not allow one comment similar to the comments the Express paper had the guts and fairness to publish. Try commenting for MQM in the GEO online, even after this farce, they will just not publish these comments. GEO today stands discredited for all except for the PML (N) and its cronies, the Ch. Allah Dad wannabes.

mahakaalchakra | 9 years ago | Reply RAW strikes again! Fantabulous! after creating mayhem in Pakistan using TTP and other Islamic terror outfits, infiltrating MQM, training them in sabotage, RAW has now managed to influence the British Police and has gotten them to toe the Indian line. This comes barely weeks after RAW infiltrated Saudi secret police to get Ziad Hamid arrest and got his his HINEY red colored using Saudi Gazwa-e-HIND (like in beHIND) What is Islamic aitmey koowatt doing to stop RAW RAW? Start WAR WAR.

Dishum | 9 years ago | Reply Misinformation, Conspiracies, False Pride, Denial, Pathological Lying, Obfuscation...what a potent mix of a country!!!

Afzal | 9 years ago | Reply @Hasan Askari: Do not get over excited, there are loads of things yet to be sorted. No one is against MQM, it is the evil leadership which needs attention and cleaning.The way you have put your analysis shows how deeply you are descending into mental illness. Metropolitan Police has only said that the leaked document is not theirs they have not commented on MQM-RAW NEXUS nor they are meant to. However Pakistan government needs to pursue this matter with the UK government for assistance in this matter. I agree with you, corruption is widespread and it is also only because of unethical practices that various political parties have been collaborating with MQM despite believing that MQM' leadership are a bunch of traitors. I think the Urdu speaking Mohajirs have to make up their own mind without being trapped by the Mohajir card and demand fresh leadership so that the frequent embarrassment that the dirty MQM image brings them should stop.

Varun reddy | 9 years ago | Reply Whattttt.....No way.How can BBC be wrong and how can the claims of Pakistani leaders be wrong when it comes to hurling mindless allegations against Indians?? Hahahahahaha.Cant stop laughing at the misery of these eternal whinebags.

abc | 9 years ago | Reply What about taking India to UN now ? Has plane been grounded in London? Pakistan is proving to be Jokistan.

Naresh | 9 years ago | Reply Lo Kur Lo Baat : http://tribune.com.pk/story/912471/london-police-says-purported-documents-of-mqm-leader-tariq-mirs-confession-are-fake/ 'Confession documents' of Tariq Mir alleging Indian funding of MQM are fake: London Police Published: June 30, 2015 By Web Desk Cheers

OBSERVER | 9 years ago | Reply they are simply wasting money and time ,putting real issue of Pakistan under carpet... MQM is a reality and accept it sooner the better.

Waqar | 9 years ago | Reply MQM haters will keep fabricating new stuff and will never feel ashamed!

Woz Ahmed | 9 years ago | Reply @layman @ unbelievable The documents are fake, they purported to be the original statements from a police interview, they were faked. It's not the role of the police to comment on fake document statements. If an official document is leaked , it's still official , these are invented by someone trying to discredit MQM , and although not a supporter, they almost got away with it. These documents appeared after MQM crititicised the Rangers/Military.

Arijit Sharma | 9 years ago | Reply The reaction in Pakistan to the BBC expose is symptomatic of broader and deep-seated psychological issues.

Ch. Allah Daad | 9 years ago | Reply Who so ever has staged this drama is one of the most stupid person on the face of planet or he wanted MQM to win this battle. Now nobody would believe true statements.

D | 9 years ago | Reply From what I understand, this article says that these documents are not official London police documents. But it certainly doesn't say that these are fake documents. This was an investigation done by BBC, not by London police or Scotland yard. So while they (police) are saying these documents are not their property, they never say that these documents are fake. BBC has a reputation and I doubt if they publish stories without substantial proof.

Naresh | 9 years ago | Reply @unbelievable: So what’s all that mean Does that mean the whole thing was fabricated? Does that mean the document released wasn’t “approved” so therefore isn’t “official” or was it fabricated? And rather than focus on whether the document was “official” why didn’t they just come out and say that the published article was rubbish and that there was no indication that India was funding MQM? . As William Shakespeare said "ALL'S WELL THAT ENDS WELL Cheers

Usman Ajmal | 9 years ago | Reply @Hasan Askari: Met Police said "not from their record". It didn't say fake.

Bharat | 9 years ago | Reply Consider the fact that the whole business is akin to conspiracy theories. There were Pakistani wondering why Indians were not commenting. Everything here is extremely childish. Politicians, out of a power play will accuse each other of anything. Be it as it may, no one except Pakistan cared

Jalal | 9 years ago | Reply Shameless Punjabi establishment once again exposed. Same thing they are doing to Baluchis too; declaring them traitors and what not, just to grab their land and resources.

cautious | 9 years ago | Reply @Parvez:

Can one really trust the British ?

For the most part - yes - especially when they don't have a bone in the fight. The real trick when dealing with the Brits is the ability to ask the right question so they can't respond with technically correct answers that aren't really on point. Brits know that lying always catches up with them so they have become adapt at obfuscation.

Ih | 9 years ago | Reply It is convenient for UK government to say it is not official version. But was he interviewed if not ,categorically deny it. Same UK government denied Guardian report latter admitted it was correct. So donot believe as gospel what you hear from Westren governments. They exist to protect their intrests. Lot of sound and fury about human rights and code of conduct but look at the results of trials from Black holes of Calcutta to Iraq and enhanced interrogation. Develop your own investigative journalism to expose reality. Truth is also relative and how you look at it. People either believe in conspiracy theories or dogmas. May they should try to to dig to find facts.

Shah | 9 years ago | Reply Even a kid knows, why and how Altaf is in UK. MI always supported him, he did a blunder by killing Imran Farouq, I hope he learnt the lesson by now, that better to do his criminal activities only in Karachi, don't follow the same pattern in England.

Babloo | 9 years ago | Reply The way Pakistan government reacted to the story suggested to me , something was fishy : Now I know. They already knew that the leaked documents and allegations are all fabricated and 100% genuine fake. They created it in the first place !

salman ahmed | 9 years ago | Reply @Hasan Askari: Hahaha... Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Met Police NEVER said that the document is a fake. They said that the document (with the redactions) 'is not part of their offcial records'. They can neither confirm nor deny the contents. Funny that the BBC also stand by their story that MQM was funded by India.

Usman | 9 years ago | Reply @ET "They were not official documents of record" does not mean fake. :P London police has not declared the documents as fake, kindly revise your story :P

Malveros | 9 years ago | Reply The headline is misleading. The London Police has not said the document is fake. Rather they said it's not part of their record. That means it is not part of the money laundering case or murder case. Since the document is genuine and facts are true about Indian Funding hence it will be used against MQM and India by Pakistan and not U.K. Pakistan will kill two birds with one stone.

Aalia | 9 years ago | Reply @unbelievable: Because its not their job to tell that. All they can confirm is that its not their property. Hence, its not from London Police. Hence, the source of the document is not known. Hence, it is not genuine. Hence, it is rubbish. Hence, GET OVER IT!

Umair | 9 years ago | Reply Justice Prevails!

Tom | 9 years ago | Reply @unbelievable: Because it is not British police business. Pakistani military and politicians fabricated the whole game. The BBC reporter also said it was provided to him by an authoritative pakistani source. Pakistanis make their own lie, and are going to go to the U.N. with this fake report. International laughing stock pakistanis.!!!!

Nazish | 9 years ago | Reply MQM stands absolved.

Salim | 9 years ago | Reply Shame on those who had jumped on this story. Congrats to MQM.

ali | 9 years ago | Reply @Layman: Yes. Plus, if it was all fake why didn't MQM file a law suit against BBC.

Malveros | 9 years ago | Reply Read between the lines of the carefully worded message. They say "can confirm no such documents are part of its record". They do not say if the information in the document is incorrect or they never had any conversation with Tariq Mir or Tariq Mir never disclosed any information mentioned in the document or MQM never disclosed taking any money from India and this is all a lie. Only that the "document is not part of it's record" i.e not this particular document. Very cleverly crafted words and using the technical jargon, they (London Metro Police) are supposed to be experts in playing with words. Need to read between the lines, documents are not property of London police, the authenticity is not denied. Also the leaked documents are a question mark on the police professionalism, how they got leaked, hence this denial.

Radiohead | 9 years ago | Reply @unbelievable Your logic is unbelievable. but I like the way you spin.

Radiohead | 9 years ago | Reply @Layman One have to deny the content as well after acknowledging they are fake?

Kam | 9 years ago | Reply Being fake and not being part of official record are different things. Possibly such evidence may have been challenged. So police may not be relying on it presently. I think MQM itself leaked it to make India to defend them by using its influence against Pakistan.

Radiohead | 9 years ago | Reply @farhan Reham Khan and BBC? She was just a weather girl.

Radiohead | 9 years ago | Reply @Pervaiz Did you trusted the british documents?

dagan | 9 years ago | Reply Another memo-gate made by Punjabi establishment.

omer | 9 years ago | Reply The police did not say docs were fake. i think they mean to say met police was not the one who conducted the interview. Or maybe the docs were never supposed to be leaked in the first place.

irfan | 9 years ago | Reply What a U-turn byBrits

Javed Mirani | 9 years ago | Reply @AD: London police, as I understand doesn't claim it is not true that MQM did take money from RAW. I am not panjabi orkashmiri or sindhi or baloach or pakhtun. I believe, MQM leader like PPP or PML-N will their people or country for mone

someone | 9 years ago | Reply Well this is the Pakistan for you folks. Make traitors out of the people who left their everything for Pakistan.

ZAK | 9 years ago | Reply Shame on such media who publish news without any investigation. Govt must be careful before labelling RAW agent. Bad name is worse than bad deeds. Pak India relations are at critical stage If RAW is operating in Pskistan what our intelligence agencies are doing to counter it. Very sorry situation for Pakistan.We donot have any credibility.

SuperNeo | 9 years ago | Reply How Could London police speak truth ? they have spoiled the cerebration back in Pakistan.now day of mourning needs to be planned !!!

B | 9 years ago | Reply The makers of Memogate are the same as MQMgate and have failed miserably.

raghu reddy | 9 years ago | Reply Why is it that this India bogey is raised everytime? Wouldnt it hurt actual ruse of RAW? Using this for every thing under the sun will dilute its power. Pak planners better be aware of that. I used to think Nawaz is saner and good person. Considering the extent he would go in obliterating the opposition, am I seeing true face of Nawaz? Pak journalism image is tarnished.

unbelievable | 9 years ago | Reply So what's all that mean Does that mean the whole thing was fabricated? Does that mean the document released wasn't "approved" so therefore isn't "official" or was it fabricated? And rather than focus on whether the document was "official" why didn't they just come out and say that the published article was rubbish and that there was no indication that India was funding MQM?

Layman | 9 years ago | Reply Yes definitely they were not official as they were leaked, they didn't denied that the content of docs are fake or wrong they just said that its not the property of Scotland yard..

farhan | 9 years ago | Reply I think some members of pti media wing and some old friends of reham khan from bbc, are involved in this fake documental proofs of mr. mir's statement about mqm's raw connection.

Parvez | 9 years ago | Reply Can one really trust the British ?

Napier Mole | 9 years ago | Reply The Agencies and their mouth piece anchors are making a banana republic out of Pakistan. I never heard the word 'alleged' from any of our great anchors when jumping up and down citing this document. Would they have the gut to apologise. Did they ever question the Saulat Mirza death cell video. Have they ever questioned all the planted stories about mqm except to pass it on with embellishments. The circus has to start somewhere and governance needs to start - and no, governance is not synonymous with motorways and metros.

Andy | 9 years ago | Reply This certainly damages the credibility of BBC. I dislike MQM to the core, but even I found that report senseless. There must be a lot of celebration in Nine-Zero, Altaf must have found some relief.

AD | 9 years ago | Reply Credibility of Pak newspapers has gone to London.

saeed | 9 years ago | Reply People may expect now that MQM bashers will feel ashmed but they will never feel ashamed. They did not even feel sorry when hundred of urdu speaking people were killed under the watch of LEA. This is nothing compared to those killing meted out to urdu speaking as a punishment to supporting MQM.

Slap on the face | 9 years ago | Reply Slap on the face of Punjabi anchors and establishment who are so eager to crush the Muhajirs .

Hasan Askari | 9 years ago | Reply This is shocking. This is unbelievable. However this shows that God exists. A party, its members, supporters and a whole community was being labelled as traitors, indian agents through a planned conspiracy. The whole movie had following cast Rangers Nawaz and company Imran and company Lifafa journalists The first plan was to defeat MQM in Karachi. It failed after thumping victory of MQM. The next step was to ban MQM through allegations and links with RAW. However in one day court released Aamir Khan saying that investigations were farce Wiki leaks exposed lifafa Mubasshir Now Shahid masood and fake document exposed and all BBC documentary is under spotlight as they also talked about these documents I guess the message is that no wonder how dirty you are, what your aim is, you are no match for the almighty. In one day he thrashed you like that. Now hide your faces If you really want to work for Pakistan then be fair, go against all corruptions and ills and prove your work through courts and if in that MQM is affected. we the MUHAJIRS would support you. However we know your intentions. You do not have issue with corruption you have issue with our city and community. Good to see that fairness exist in shape of courts and some others

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