The two leaders met in Washington, DC last September and then again at a G-20 Summit in Australia and at the East Asia Summit in Myanmar, both in November 2014. Obama’s visit also comes less than a year since Washington effectively ended its blacklisting of Modi, who became a persona non grata in the US and the European Union for his role in the killing of more than 2,000 Muslims following deadly communal riots in the western state of Gujarat in 2002 while he was its chief minister. The two leaders with distinct history on their side and inspired by their common ‘humble’ roots, seem to have bonded well, developing a personal equation which was overly visible in Obama’s unprecedented reception on arrival, by Modi, with an exuberant hug, and in the mutual bonhomie one saw when they talked and walked together in the elegant garden at the Hyderabad House where Modi poured a special cup of tea for Obama. No wonder, according to reports, their talks were cordial and productive covering a whole range of bilateral as well as regional and global issues.
Topping the agenda reportedly were “enhanced military cooperation, bilateral trade, climate change and investments in India’s civilian nuclear sector” on which a deal was struck to break a longstanding impasse over a local law on the liability issue that has long kept foreign nuclear companies from getting involved in the Indian market. Apparently, Modi’s ‘special cup of tea’ worked in extracting Obama’s nod on the deal. Other than a hotline that will now connect Prime Minister Modi and President Obama, one doesn’t see any new groundbreaking outcomes from the Obama-Modi talks. They just agreed to restart negotiations on a pending investment treaty and renewed the 10-year defence treaty signed in 2005. Whatever the worth of these decisions, the two sides were optimistic of their relations moving to “a whole new level”. Obama described the outcome as “powerful symbolism backed by substance”. Elated as they were on their mediocre origins, both Modi, son of a tea-seller and Obama, grandson of a cook, had reason to be euphoric over the outcome of their talks, which they believe will lead to one of the “defining partnerships of the 21st century”.
What an irony that the world’s two largest democracies are starting a ‘strategic partnership’ under a man of Modi’s controversial credentials and a Nobel Laureate US president, who has been justifying wars to make peace. In a glow of bonhomie, the two partners announced plans to unlock billions of dollars in military and nuclear trade as the bedrock of their alliance. Their Defence Trade Technological Initiative involves massive collaboration in terms of joint ‘pathfinder’ projects, including joint production of drone aircraft and equipment for C-130 military planes, cooperation on aircraft carriers and jet-engine technology and increasing upgrading of their joint military and naval exercises.
What a solid foundation for global peace and harmony! Obviously, in building up this new alliance, the US has its own priorities as part of its larger China-driven Asian agenda in pursuit of maintaining its worldwide political and economic power. India on its part is seeking to use this partnership for its own ambitions of gaining a global power status. Based on their respective expediencies, both sides are playing on Kautilya’s game plan to cope with what they both see as the spectre of Rising China. The future of this partnership will depend not on the avowed interests of its signatories, but on how other countries in the region, affected by this worrisome alliance, feel compelled to respond.
Indeed, it is the beginning of another Cold War. The only difference is that this time, India stands on the other side of the pole. The politics of alliances and alignments is back with dangerous implications for peace and security of this region. Actions are bound to provoke reactions. If the turbulent political history of this region had any lessons, the US engagement in this nuclearised region should have been aimed at promoting strategic balance rather than disturbing it. Washington should have been eschewing discriminatory policies in dealing with the India-Pakistan nuclear equation, the only one in the world that grew up in history totally unrelated to the Cold War. But this never happened.
Instead, the US gave India a country-specific nuclear deal with a carte blanche in the Nuclear Suppliers Group for access to nuclear technology. Any measure that contributes to lowering of the nuclear threshold and fuelling of an arms race between two nuclear-armed neighbours provides no service to the people of this region. A stable nuclear security order is what we need in South Asia. Only non-discriminatory, criteria-based approaches would be sustainable. Preferential treatment to India in terms of nuclear technology not only widens existing security imbalances in the region, but also seriously undermines the prospects of India-Pakistan restraint and stabilisation.
Unfortunately, principles of equity and justice today are globally non-existent. Of course, Americans are a pragmatic nation. They understand the worth of obliging India on its nuclear ambitions and quest for ‘great power’ status, and will continue to exploit it for their own ends. We in Pakistan have a long history of lessons learnt from similar alliances. We know such alliances never endure and keep changing as the world and its dynamics do by the inevitable process of change inherent in the rise and fall of power. For now, however, there are ominous security implications for this region.
The international community has an obligation, not only to eschew discriminatory policies in their dealing with the India-Pakistan nuclear equation, but also to take steps that facilitate the prospects of durable peace in this region. Peace in South Asia will remain elusive as long as Kashmir remains under Indian occupation. The world must know that there is but one fair, just, legal and moral solution to Kashmir, which was provided by the UN, and which both India and Pakistan mutually accepted in UN Security Council resolutions.
Published in The Express Tribune, January 31st, 2015.
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This line of reasoning, with a heavy dose of pique and unreality, followed by this blog author has already been done many times over already before and since Mr. Obama's state second visit to India. Sir, no one is buying your stale and vapid arguments.
@S: The United Nations is a peace-making body, not a legislative and executive branch of some imagined One Government that can override national sovereignty. Pakistani side acted in bad faith and sent armed forces to wrest control of Kashmir in 1948. It grabbed part of it and calls it "Azad Kashmir" (or Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir, as the world knows it) and gave part of it to atheist China, thus destroying forever its own invalid case. One can either adhere to all conditions of a deal but not parts it likes.
@Razi: She gets Rs.10 per line. [line must have 50 words.] Very likely paid by RSS/Shiv Sena, or some Hindutva proxies..
@Fazal Dad:
You are close in yoru observations..... Both Modi and Obama are calculative of their involvement... Earlier governments in India were very similar to all asians, . Emotionally overpowered when u receive a red carpet or a flowery praise or a grand dinner.... but nothign substantive occured out of htese meetings... This time, US wasp ut in a defensive position and that helped Modi negotiate... he will not give in anythign to Americans without extracting any decent benefits for India... So American coroprations get osme dolalrs and busienss nad Americans get more jobs... India gets some investmetns in infrastructure and much needed technology that US is withholding for India's growth.....
Modi is smart.. he will go abotu telling how man yjobs he has created in Us because of the contracts given to US corporations..... thus endearing him to average AMerican that will help change the Pro-communist, pro-pakistni image of state deopartment that has so far been favouring Paksitanis nad was talkign of india-pakistan balance......
Modi , because of is lack of any political baggage and clean background cannot be cowed down by foreign powers in the same way liek Russians controlled Indira, Sonia or missionaryies control / influence Sonia govt via NGO network....
@Fazal Dad: Suffering from ulcer ?
I am more than sure express tribune comment section has been infested by some Indian military online propaganda unit such units also exist in Israel US and other countries. Express tribune may be facilitating it iƒ don't do anything about it freedom of speech backed by foreign govts are propaganda brain washing ET need to do something.
@AVMPolpot
If you believe you and your ilk are providing "enlightenment" to Pakistanis through your snide and arrogant comments, I can only marvel at your brilliance. Perhaps it's the only way for you people to vent your frustrations. And if you were even slightly serious in your comment, try reading a bit of psychology and perhaps the ethics of disagreement.
@Gp65
You will just not learn. Lying and misleading is part of the DNA it seems. You have been forcefully rebutted on your claims about Hindus being 'wiped out' of Pakistan two or three times but you keep coming back with your lies. Give me figures from a reliable source on Hindus being wiped out from West Pakistan (today's Pakistan). Give me actual percentage at the time of partition and the percentage now, not just news items from here and there. Also, while you are at it, give me reliable figures on other non-Muslims who have been cleansed.
@Fazal Dad: Ummm... India 135) ranks higher than Pakistan (146). So your source says the exact opposite of what you did. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ListofcountriesbyHumanDevelopmentIndex
I am not impressed with the article. A loser's approach. Surely, India is talking to the world and we are still dealing with serious internal threat, not to mention the traditional foes. There is no denying India is behind a lot of evil in Pakistan but we can't deny our own gross incompetence and corruption either. The Mullahism reins and so does cronyism. Nepotism is rampant in government circles and politicians in Pakistan are the worst breed and probably the worst 5000 people in the country. Let's look inwards and let us fix our own game. India is doing what is right for her, Pakistan can do the same. Separately, I feel good to see so many Indian trolls roaming around our websites, always out to sniff. Take it easy boys we understand your pain.
@sunil: Ha ha, ha. The paan and cigarette sellers of Delhi are teaching us the value of enlightenment, open-mindedness, and truth. This must be the biggest joke of the century. We don't believe in personality cults, so keep your Modi and his nonsensical but hawkish promises. Give a few more years and everything will be flying into your face.
@GP65: Human Development Report 2014.
@the eddy: .The cradle of Indus Valley civilization are the areas that became part of Pakistan. No disrespect to religious traditions that you mention but carefully look at their place of origin.
@Jamal khan: Indus valley civillization , Hinduism , Buddhism , Sikhism , Gandhara etc. have more to do with Indians & other South Asians than Pakistanis. You taking credit for it is like white Americans coopting native American civillization.
India does not have to do anything...just keep an environment where Pakistan try to compete with it..Its just matter of time.
@Fazal Dad: getting too much upset? dont want to see the truth? tryth hut=rts? but sometimes u have to open up your mind and look around ... what is happening? modi has a vision and he has a plan? he will transform the sub continent whether u like or not.
Chinese premier Xi who did not meet Raheel Shareef during his China visit is making an exception and meeting Sushma Swaraj, India's foreign minister. On Monday, there is a meeting scheduled between foreign ministers of Russia, India and China. So much for your assessment that India has agreed to side with USA and against Russia and China in the new cold war.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/chinese-president-xi-jinping-to-break-protocol-will-meet-sushma-swaraj/articleshow/46083732.cms
@Fazal Dad: "The fact is that Pakistan’s per capita of professional is higher than India. So get lost."
Please provide a reliable reference for this.
@Fazal Dad: No sir disagree with in triplicate. God is your private interpretation of how YOU understand or define a concept of God. Say a nuclear scientist concept of a supreme being or an archeologist's understanding of organized religion versus a sabzi cart pusher's last hearsay of the local mullah's ranting. No sir, not at all, God is not God for all. Consider a God versus Gods. Or a Jewish God or a Christian God or a Pharisees God, or a Ahura Mazda. If religion was so simple we would all be living in perfect harmony. And singing uplifting love songs all over the world. Your Rosy Eyed view of religion is very flawed. Reserved for some fairy tale like textbooks. More like a seminar at the United Nations. Perhaps you should ask the Tea Party about God or say a Ted Cruz, or a Rand Paul. You will lucky if you leave their office with all your feathers intact.
ET moderators, please allow. responding to addressed comment from Cinderella's uncle.
@Kabir: Right brother your army ther and it was there during Kargill war .First ever army in world they killed their jawans and did nothing .Boss you are great
@AVMPolpot: Someone who calls himself Pol Pot, what should I make him. Are you indeed an Air Vice Marshal. If so I am sorry for the Indian General staff and its military. Yes! we surrendered but circumstances were beyond simplistic explanations. To make the long story short, it was the line of communication and the logistical reasons and not what like yours think. Again if you are really AVM, my condolences to the Indian Air Force. So low and vicious thinking of the General Staff? Please also note that Pakistan is not only resilient but enlightened also. The fact is that Pakistan's per capita of professional is higher than India. So get lost.
@Fazal Dad: I have voted for the democrats in each US Presidential elections and I have no regrets.You are probably worried that the US public tax money that flows unabatedly to rogue states during Republican regime of Reagan and Bush2 is going to slow down now.India is civilization of 6000 years as such can not be called artificial.There is no iron curtain in modern diplomacy and as such China is biggest trade partner of both USA and India .India and USA (along with Japan & Australia) on strategic level is trying to eschew China's expansionist behaviour which has been worrisome to its neighbor.One should not forget that If India does not own Indian Ocean, similarly China does not own South China sea-these are international sea.Indian Foreign Minister is visiting China for RIT(Russia,India,China) Foreign Minister summit all these nations are also member of BRIC so they will be interacting at multiple level.If you are so paranoid about Indian comments on internet available throughout the world - why you are responding to them.
Come on now. So scared so scared and some ridiculous analysis ? How can someone sitting in a 3rd country (not India and USA) decide about what is right and wrong in between other two countries. In today's world; the relationship between the two countries is chalked out by the policy makers of each country and heads of state are only the front line people to provide a face or direction to the country's strategic and geopolitical future needs and I am talking about democratically elected governments and not army ruled or dictator ruled governments. If there was anybody else in place of Obama; he/she would have done the same thing with the newly elected PM of India. So are the Australian; UK, EU; and other heads of state doing with India only because India is identified as the future growth engine of the world. India always had the capabilities to do so but was ruled by a dummy PM under Sonia Gandhi who never spoke at all. In last 10 years; very little could be done by MM Singh. Then comes a sharp shooter like NAMO with proven performance in Gujarat for 14 years rule where Gujarat grew by leaps and bounds ( except the 2002 riots) and who spoke of grandiose plans of growing India with 100 smart cities;......... list goes on and it is quite natural for big powers like USA, Japan; even China and Russia et el wooing NAMO. This author has no clue of what changes have happened in the world order. Just shooting from his hips with Pakistan in mind . The world order has changed and the relationships between any two countries are NOT A ZERO SUM GAME .
Unnecessary ranting from this Pakistani author.
@Motiwala:" Looks like a rabid hindu troll ranting and raving." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Typical Paki bluster....when u cannot find anything wrong with an Indian's logic....attack him ...(not his logic)....with the collusion of the Moderator.
@Fazal Dad:" Pakistan is a resilient state and society." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ eg when 90000 Paki soldiers surrendered to Indian Army and the country broke into two.Await further dismemberment.
@Fazal Dad: " Indian commentators: I am not interested to read your nonsensical comments, so stay away." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If you find Indian's comments nonsensical the you should stay away!!.Why deprive other Pakistanis of enlightenment just cause you want to live in your cocoon?
@Vakil: Do you actually understand Stockholm syndrome? Looks like that you just heard it somewhere and decided to use it. Keep spitting your vanum on Pakistan which you and leadership had been doing since the early days of the new state. @ Motiwala Let us not question or bring into discussion a religion. All religions are sacred and all Gods are great. I honestly don't think that God is a private property that we should claims one better over others. God is God whether Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, or Sikh God. The fact is that God does not have a religion, caste, or creed, so let us respect each God.
@A Peshawary: Election fever has nothing to do with India's attitude to Pakistan. Pakistan is not even an issue in Delhi elections or for that matter Haryana, Jharkhand, Maharashtra before that? Yes Pakistani proxies tried to unwuccesfully influence elections in Jammu and Kashmir but that is about all. Also elections are ongoing. In a few months there will be elections in Bihar.
The Modi overnment started with an attitude of wanting o build partnership with SAARC natuons. It is pursuing this systematically with all other SAARC natios. Firing on international orders and inviting HUrriyat in Delhi a weak before foreign secretary level talks is what caused a U-turn in Modi's policies. In any case a weakened Nawaz does not dare to defy the status wuo that establishment wants to pursue. So nothing is going to change in India until Pakostan decides to stop its aggression.
@Motiwala: " The hindu commenters WILL not stay away. They MUST insert themselves in every article, blog, piece, opinion, and even news"
No. People from India generally do not comment on your domestic issues. But when an article is about India, it is to be expected. Secondly, it is not just Hindus that comment but also others such as John B, Feroz etc. India has not cleansed non -Hindus in the manner that Pakistan has cleansed non-Muslims.
Well done ET & Shamim: By reading the comments it seems that a war of words between Indians and Pakistanis in on, alongside LOC violations. When can both the nations mature and focus on the real issues instead of emotion driven politics?
Let us see what is India's diplomatic tone towards Pakistan after Dehli election. I mean to say when the election fiver in India is over. It will be a test of Pakistan's diplomacy and comments (in ET) by the both Indians and Pakistanis if Indian Government and media tone changes.
A Peshawary
@Fazal Dad: Agree with you. The hindu commenters WILL not stay away. They MUST insert themselves in every article, blog, piece, opinion, and even news. A sick bunch indeed.
@Fazal Dad: It shows your arrogance and stupidity by making such dud comments on this forum. Online newspapers are read by anyone who got access to it.India and US relationship is not slave - master combo like yours.When mature democracies talk,world listens.It is beyond your comprehension,so don't make dud comments like your name.
@Fazal Dad: Now you have become a psychologist on Presidential decisions. You are following too many republican rants. Obama clearly understands the world he is dealing with. He knew it before his first run. Hope the policies of appeasement, money for peace, aid for stopping terrorism are over in the US foreign policy. Many of his decisons were master stroke in foreign policy, if only you know the history.
The former foreign secretary is self contradictory,. He points there is nothing new ground breaking, but the still he finds the alliance worrisome. He finds it ironic that worlds two largest democracies are starting a strategic partnership, where as he does not find the lack of such partnership between two greatest democracies ironic, what an intellectual back flip. Then ending with the Kashmir rant, what has Kashmir to do with US India? Even if we take Pakistani propaganda it's a issue at UN, and or between India Pakistan. As per India. One can only feel sorry that such a person received high office, representingillions.
Pakistan should not worry about the alliance. It is the Indians who should worry about the price of this alliance. American goodwill does not come without a tag.. and time will prove that it was too expensive. I had deep respect for india's non aligned stance; it was a mature policy. Siding with a power against a neighbour is not wise.
@wb: Looks like a rabid hindu troll ranting and raving. And doing cartwheels and somersaults in his ugly frenzy.
Stop crying and look at the leadership in your country whose only aim is promotion of family and pocketing ill gotten wealth. India on the contrary has leaders who are honest and have a passion for their motherland - be it Modi or Manmohan.
Why should it be a Worrisome Alliance? One can choose his own alliances not others. Pakistan might have been placed much better on the globe if Mr. Shamim had worried about his own country's stake in global affair instead of worrying for others.
A Peshawary
@wb go through the history,you will know our superiority,indus vally civilisation Aryanism,,Gandhara civilisation,, rule of pathan Muslims in sub cotinent,whose creation Zorosterism, Hinduisms is,who preached Buddism before the world.
Diplomatic relations between two or more countries are determined by their mutual interests, recent closeness between Obama and Modi is not the outcome of whims of the either. It is rather due to the convergence of their strategic interests. United states was as closer to Pakistan when it was fighting to contain the extension of the erstwhile USSR and later on Taliban. Today it is in need of a strong country to counter China and other disobedient to America, whether, we are ready to sacrifice China at the altar of America and be used against other regional nations. If no then we can't remind the Americans ethics and justice. However, being the claimant of uniglobal power, America should realize the impact of their such behavior, whether, it could enhance confidence, goodwill and security perception in the region or it would accelerate initiation of new security measures by the strong nuclear rivals, who are already suspicious about each other's strategies designs. Actually instead of raising complaints to others, we should raise our stature to a level when, "KHDA BANDE KO KHUD PUCHE KA TERI RAZA KIA HAE."We should work for more national unity and cohesion, political stability, social uplift, economic prosperity and institutional strengthen. Our Foreign Office should be more proactive in utilizing the available opportunities. Unfortunately we don’t pay attention to such areas, evident from the unavailability of Foreign Minister in such a gloomy situation.
@Fazal Dad: I voted for Barack Obama both times, too, but have absolutely no regrets. The Royal Opposition has blocked or tried to block everything he and the Democrats have wanted to do. The results on the domestic front have been far better than expected despite the efforts of the Republicans. You are right, of course, no one can predict what happens in 50 years, but decisions have to be made now with the best information and analysis one can muster today. Strategies evolve as conditions change. Mr. Obama, unlike the belligerent group of Congressman (like John McCain and Lindsey Graham) who would have preferred war against Russia, Syria, and others, has been a pretty methodical rational actor. Conditions in the Middle East have been unpredictable and beyond the control of outsiders. Oba done the best anyone could have done under those circumstance. Is there a coalition of states in place if China continues its border battles with all its neighbors? No. But if China acts against the interests of its weaker neighbors (Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam) and others in the future, alliances can be quickly formed as diplomacy is already taking place. Strategy, whether in geopolitics or business. involves several likely scenarios of the future. As new information becomes available, scenarios are modified, rejected, and new ones are developed. But China is also a rational actor. Will jeopardize its future growth and stability? Perhaps the US signaling may deter any precipitous action against neighbors.
"Other than a hotline that will now connect Prime Minister Modi and President Obama, one doesn’t see any new groundbreaking outcomes from the Obama-Modi talks. They just agreed to restart negotiations on a pending investment treaty and renewed the 10-year defence treaty signed in 2005. OK! Granted nothing sustantial happened. India is foolish, underdeveloped, poor, insurgency ridden, etc. etc... Itna wa vella kyon? You guys are in mourning over the visit! If the above is right stop chest beating and get on with tackling death of shias and other minorities and terror. If nothing else at least have a clean fair election and a functioning civil government before the world, including china, take you seriously.
Anything wrong with my comment ET?
This is one heck of an eloquent and logically laid-out analysis by someone who seems to possess a razor-sharp intellect, and a perspective imbued with years of first-rate first-hand exposure to world affairs.
So many different aspects are discussed, so many facets analysed and so much logic built into each argument that the author's conclusions are seductively easy to swallow.
Except that its written for an alternative universe where right is wrong and left is right and time flows backwards and entropy decreases, inhabited by the Author. His genuineness and first-water intellect have both succumbed to his blind Oedipus complex for his motherland. If this is what happens to those who ought to know better, the game's over, I'm sorry to say.
@Motiwala:
"How can you allow this this hindu to rant like this with racist comment? is he paying you moderators? or somebody is paying you moderators to allow this Comment?"
Go complain to CII, Pemra and Sindh Secretariat.
This article should be a compulsory reading in any course on international relations, if only to demonstrate how not to think. Cold War is over. The global conditions of the 1940s and 2015 are completely different. The relationships between U.S., China, EU, Russia, Japan and India will be of multiple strands, economic, strategic or military. A war between or among them is inconceivable where even a victory would be pyrrhic. This is a time of competitive cooperation. These multi-stranded relationships are just insurance against worst case scenarios. A new and more peaceful world order is going to emerge from this multi-polar structure.
@Fazal Dad: Indian commentators will comment if India is mentioned in any article. It makes sense to have a debate that is represented by both sides otherwise it just turns into a cribbing soliloquy. When your writers talk about justice and fair play, those words ring hollow. However much you deny it, your inner voice knows the truth. Listen to it and listen to the screams of Peshawer and Karachi. India has got too much on its plate to plot and connive against a nation he'll bent on destroying itself. Fight polio and corruption and terrorism. Let there be healthy dialogue and robust argument. Let truth be the victor because comments are free but facts are sacred.
@wb: How can you allow this this hindu to rant like this with racist comment? is he paying you moderators? or somebody is paying you moderators to allow this Comment?
Every time a Pakistani raises Modi's name he/she brings out the Gujarat riots of 2002 saying how many Muslims died then What they purposely omit to say that both Muslims and Hindus died in large numbers. However what must be remembered that as a result of that incident Indian Muslims have not left India in droves because they do not feel threatened. Obama's Nobel prize was an aberration. He really did not deserve it. One last thing whether India talks to US or any other country Pakistan should not at all feel threatened because India is not going to start war. India is busy with bettering the lives of her citizens.
Pakistani needle is again stuck on K word. Nothing fruitful will be achieved by this obsession.
Pakistan is increasingly becoming north korea- any article you see there is a mention of nuclear weapons and what not!!!! Play with it if you must just like with the snakes you reared
And there is no balance in indo pak. Is there a af-pak balance? Should pakistan capability reduced to match af for "strategic balance"?
A fairly typical piece, standard production-line stuff from this writer. You don't have to look further to understand the steady decline of quality in Pakistan over decades. You can go short on IQ; you can even go short on EQ. But to be short on both? It will not be long now before even China has a rethink.
Nation's act in their self interest. Modi was persona non grata in USA when he was the CM of Gujarat. With him being PM of 1.2 billion people, US could not have afforded to neglect him. As CM of Gujarat, Modi visited China 3 times and was welcomed there. He fostered deep business links at the time. Had US continued to neglect Modi after he became PM, Modi might have tilted towards China, something not in the interest of USA which is trying to balance china's rise in Asia. (If the turbulent political history of this region had any lessons, the US engagement in this nuclearised region should have been aimed at promoting strategic balance rather than disturbing it.) The author probably did not notice but Pakistan was not even mentioned in the joint statement. India is going to be active in Asia-Pacific forums. Modi has shown interest in reviving a Quadrilateral dialogue involving USA,Japan, Australia, India. This was in vogue in 2009 but China protested vociferously and the dialogue fell through. India at that time was not so keen. Modi seems to be keen now. So, the visit of Obama needs to be seen in a global perspective. Pakistan is relevant as far as terrorism emanating from there is concerned but its global relevance is very little. It could have become an important part of trade route to Central Asia from India, thereby maintaining its global relevance but it chose not to. Only China, for its strategic imperatives (it needs a trade route to Arabian sea through Gwadar bypassing the now used Malacca Strait) seems interested in Pakistan.
FPSC (the body that recruits Civil Service officers), what is the calibre of the new entrants into the prestigious FSP? I wish they come an inch closer to him.
This guy is a gem. His writings force you to think, which in itself is a testament of the power of his intellect.
Sir, you are so bothered and perturbed about two sovereign countries trying to improve relations. It is shocking considering what Pakistan is going through with dozens dying every day. If the leaders of a nation do not know what their priorities should be and are consumed by hatred and jealousy, I shudder to think about the future under such leaders. Please save your country when there is a chance.
@raj:
"Pakistan will cease to exist". Keep dreaming! The Pakistan Army is there to make sure you Bharatis will never succeed in such plans. Stay on your side of the border and let us not bother with you. We neither want to see you nor hear from you. Don't know why you keep trolling our newspapers.
@raj: You had been making such noises since partition in 1947. Pakistan is a resilient state and society. It is there to survive so take the back seat.
Pakistanis think that they're somehow equal to us or even better than us.
Perhaps, Pakistanis are better than us.
Perhaps, you've better genes. Perhaps, you're blessed and chosen by Allah himself.
But as long as you remain under educated, underemployed, lazy, useless, unproductive, ignorant, dumb and stupid...you'll not be equal to any progressive country.
You ask for nuclear deal for Pakistan. Heck, Pakistan doesn't even deserve a water purifying plant. You guys better self destroy quickly.
For once,just once I wish Pakistani commentators would focus on what they would like the Pakistani sate to do to better its standing in the world.
Of course, that's not going to happen. Every article in the the Pakistani press starts with 1947 or 1166 or whatever. Long ago in the past to justify the failures today.
Pakistan and its citizens deserve better than being ankle biters.
There's not a whole lot of time left. Fix your own house, you can do it. Don't expect others to do it for you.
This visit affirms Americans belief that Americans have 1.25 billion plus cannon-fodder in their (America's) fight against China. This doesn't concern people like me one bit.
Please be ready to implement the UN resolutions as they are written.
don’t worry, Americans are looking for India as important market to neutralize his rising unemployment conundrum, by transferring sensitive teckno.to India they are not going to let their own business be receded, Indian pitfalls in nuclear technology are no more secrets, they by hook or by crook trying it to level it against Pakistan, like Pakistan is trying same for his economy, actually India is no more considered as successful atomic power after its partial success during atomic tests, but it was acknowledged just for the sake to level Pakistan. Both are looking their respective problems be solved by other developed countries which is just illusion,
Frankly the people of Pakistan are sick and tired of the obsession of the security establishment and their shrills about India. I am more concerned about peace in Pakistan than peace in South Asia. Can we take care first of the sectarian outfits and various terrorist groups bombing our civilians in schools, mosques and bazars? Instead of obsessing about competition with other countries?
I am still wondering how the Peace and Stability of the region will be affected and who is going to affect those? Afg, PAK, India, China, Iran, US, Russia?
PAK gloating that her mundane achievement of N-bomb should give her global recognition is delusional. N. Korea is also having N-bomb but has not gone anywhere with it. Countries of these world plan for their future centuries ahead. By the end of this century we will be hitting peak oil, and countries who are prepared for their energy diversification are stand to survive. I am not sure, and I am not alone, whether there will be a Pakistan as we know it today by the end of this century.
As for Kashmir, which seems to make PAK sleepless, India has established who is in control of that for the past 60 years. May I remind the writer that history says it was PAK which had occupied part of the Kashmir and PoK is not part PAK and PoK constitution says that they are independent of PAK, and youth of PoK are asking for Azad from PAK.
PAK should stop worrying about issues that are beyond her grasp or comprehension.
Don't worry "ache din ane wale hain". Complete Jammu & Kashmir will soon be a democracy and pakistan will cease to exist.
To raise the issue of an India-USA alliance to the detriment of Pakistan by Secretary Shamshad Ahmed is in-line with standard Foreign Office thinking. I wish we in Pakistan had a Internal Office as well where such such keen intellect was applied to what ails the Country from within.
Our station, our prospects and our relevance will continue to decline internationally because of our sustained failure in leadership since our independence, and I would submit even much before. Strategic thinking and defiance are hard to come by when the politicians are beholden to the West to safeguard their ill-gotten wealth parked there. A great deal more could otherwise be achieved by cooperation with a dynamic China.
Is it not reasonable to offer China the use of our naval- land- and air-bases for a comparable period as we have offered them to the USA in the past. We will be able to train our strategic and tactical forces at lower costs by sharing equipment and facilities. Even the USA may then give us a rethink.
We can worry about sharing a cup of tea later.
Aussie: Shahid Saleem Arshad, PhD, Sydney.
" A worrisome ‘alliance’" ++++++++++++++++++++ How can the alliance be worrisome if it is non enduring?:).
Boiler Plate Paragraph essential for all Pakistani Security Experts +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ " Peace in South Asia will remain elusive as long as Kashmir remains under Indian occupation. The world must know that there is but one fair, just, legal and moral solution to Kashmir, which was provided by the UN" Mantra for successful career.
Article is full of contradictory statements by the author. At one point he says; "Other than a hotline that will now connect Prime Minister Modi and President Obama, one doesn’t see any new groundbreaking outcomes from the Obama-Modi talks." then all over the article he talks of substantive agreements between two countries which will destabilize regional balance. Author is forgetting that Indo-US relations are now more and more focused on China of which Pakistan just an appendage. One fails to understand what cold war like conditions author is talking about ? Indo-China, US China, Indo-Russia, all have substantive economic and political engagements. India and China are part of BRICS and G20. Mr Modi will be visiting China in May. World dynamics has changed and Pakistan has only marginal role in new world order. Days of all out hostilities among nations are gone. It will be a balancing of different kind. India will certainly compete with China but not in a Pakistani style hostile manner. In new world order US needs India as much as India needs US and so is true of India and China , India and Russia, Russia and China and US and China. In Indo-Pacific its definitely going to be India, US, Japan and Australia vs China. ASEAN will get security umbrella from this alliance. Russia is not too much bother worried about this alliance for sure and will love to see China being kept busy in Asia.
Heaven will not fall on us because of India so pl stop the rhetoric.In last seven decades many a time heaven fell on us and that is wholly and solely because of establishment comprising of corrupt incompetent civil and military bureaucracy.In the name of religion and India corrupt establishment has played havoc with Pakistan its shame that this practice still continues-but time is over for fooling the nation.
With the father of the nation directly being responsible for death of thousands of Hindus due to his direct action call, I find it funny when Pakistan brings up Gujarat riots.
Mr.Author :
How can any country transfer nuclear technology to a nation whose head of the nuclear program was caught peddling nuclear secrets to rogue nations(Libya,North Korea/Iran) for a price with the active connivance of the political and military leadership ? Imagine what is going through the minds of strategic thinkers and decision makers of the advanced nations when they think of Pakistan's nuclear program or the wishful thinking of Pakistan leadership when they expect the same deal as India. India have a proved record of International behavior unlike Pakistan which is a poster child for an international head ache.
And just WHEN did the Pakistani Army totally withdraw from Kashmir as part of that UN agreement????
Worrisome alliance? You bet - that's probably what the American's have been saying about Pakistan for the past decade. . I suspect that both India and the USA figured out sometime ago that both have picked the wrong allies when selecting Soviets/Pakistan - like most things in life things self correct over time.
Evidence of the killing of more than 2,000 Muslims following deadly communal riots in the western state of Gujarat in 2002. What are Modi’s controversial credentials? Why you are fighting war with Taliban? What is Kautilya game plan? Except Pakistan every neighbor seems to be happy. US is trying for strategic balance. First you talked about Indo-China and then suddenly moved to indo-pakistan. If author is so much worry about justice then why Pakistani wants Kashmir? Is author is OK if India sent all India Muslims to Pakistan? Author failed to explain why then Pakistan has not moved its army till now as per UN resolution and opposed the plebiscite. Why Pakistan attacked India in 1965 and supported Terrorism? Was that also part of UN resolution?
Ahmad Saheb, kuch aisa mehsoos hota hai ki Angoor Khattey Hain.
Live and let live. Focus on and plan for development and progress, of your own country, your sub-continent, and your world. And not on other, negative activities. Then, everything will fall in place, and Pakistan will be included into the comity of respected nations by choice, and the Green Passport will be welcome all over the world.
You seem to be an educated and experienced person who has had the honor of representing your country abroad. As a trained diplomat, you should know logic, reasoning and persuasion. Or stating a cogent thought, perhaps. Therefore, the world expects better than the screed that you just penned in an internationally available newspaper.
Peace and cheers.
"Unfortunately, principles of equity and justice today are globally non-existent" . Couldn't agree more .. many believe that the country that was behind the Mumbai massacre, nuke proliferation, Haqqani sanctuary, and helped hide OBL has gotten off without a scratch.
As per realist school of international politics, the states are rational actors and they pursue their policy agenda through rational calculations. Upto this point both India and US are correct. The real issue comes when we see US developing an alliance system to contain China in the future. This rationale does not seem based on a well thought policy agenda. What will happen in fifty years from now is unpredictable. So developing a hostile military posture towards China does actually runs counter to US interests. So I am not sure what US is is trying to achieve through such diplomatic maneuvers. As far Mr. Obama, I voted for him both in 2008 and and 2012 and now I have nothing but regrets. His foreign policy agenda is based more on impulsions and less on rational calculations. So his visit to India and to attend the Republic Day Parade in India does not surprise me. The feelings of insecurity have always shaded his decision making process and I have no idea from where it comes from. Now Mr. Modi and his India: Desi people are just very emotional people. It will not take US very long to understand the artificiality of Indian leadership. Sooner they understand better will it be for the region. Indian commentators: I am not interested to read your nonsensical comments, so stay away.
Nothing substantial in terms of economy or defense may come out of recent Modi-Obama meeting. However, it is highly gratifying to see Pakistan writhing in anger and jealousy and developing ulcers by the minute, over Mr. Obama's India visit. Just for this outcome alone, Mr. Modi should invite Mr.Obama for a visit every month!
Mr Ahmad seems to have a lot of opinions as to how leaders from other countries should or should not act. These leaders are acting in the interests of their own countries and do not give a spade what Pakistan thinks.