US gives ‘leftover’ arms to Pakistan

Published: January 15, 2015
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A file photo of US troops in Afghanistan. PHOTO: AFP

A file photo of US troops in Afghanistan. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: The United States has handed over the serviceable weapons, ammunitions and other sophisticated military equipment to Pakistan that was being used by the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) troops in Afghanistan.

“A complete list of all the reusable military equipment was provided to Pakistan, from which whatever was deemed necessary and was required by the armed forces was selected by the defence ministry. Pentagon was accordingly informed about it,” sources in the ministry said on the condition of anonymity

They added that a majority of the equipment selected from the list has already been handed over to Pakistan. After the announcement of the withdrawal of ISAF forces from Afghanistan, Pentagon decided to give military equipment to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“However, a major chunk of the military equipment that includes sophisticated weapons is being moved to Jordan,” the sources said.

Published in The Express Tribune, January 15th, 2015.

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  • Bewildered
    Jan 15, 2015 - 11:48AM

    Our Indian friends are welcome to vent their anger here.

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  • Saqib
    Jan 15, 2015 - 12:18PM

    Not sure if this includes “ammunition”, if it does then let’s hope this “Ojri Camp” will not explode!

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  • salma
    Jan 15, 2015 - 12:30PM

    @Bewildered: They will not be bewildered. They could be amused —especially by the word leftover. See the irony?

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  • Anon
    Jan 15, 2015 - 1:05PM

    American hand-me-downs aren’t going to upset us. :)

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  • unbelievable
    Jan 15, 2015 - 1:06PM

    @Bewildered:
    When we take pride in using used equipment, nibbling at bread crumbs, and accepting refuse of others, I weep a river out.

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  • Adnan Siddiqi
    Jan 15, 2015 - 1:44PM

    Is that all COAS could negotiate on his unprecedented 2 weeks tour to US of A?

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  • abreez
    Jan 15, 2015 - 1:48PM

    For India, American gifts are
    F404-GE-IN20 turbofan engines for HAL Tejas
    C-17 Globemaster (9)
    C-130J Super Hercules (5)
    Boeing P-8 Poseidon (6)
    Sikorsky SH-3 Sea King (8)
    Boeing AH-64D Apache (70 maybe ordered)
    Boeing CH-47 Chinook (15 is being ordered)
    And for Pakistan ‘leftover’ arms.

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  • Joe
    Jan 15, 2015 - 2:19PM

    @Bewildered:
    Not surprised. This is usual Pakistan, getting leftover from all over the world

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  • Ahmad
    Jan 15, 2015 - 2:55PM

    Beggars are not the choosers!!

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  • Pakistani
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:04PM

    Good. This is a positive step.

    Pakistani troops need protection against IED especially, body armour and advanced surveillance to assist in their operations in the border regions against Indian backed terrorists.

    There should infact be a major and immediate effort by our allies in NATO and other countries to ensure Pak forces are adequately equiped to deal with the tremendous challenges (which they understand having faced this themselves).

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  • James
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:11PM

    @Bewildered:

    We don’t need to vent our anger for the “leftover” arms given to Pakistan……if we need it, we will buy it…also please check if NATO has some “leftover” with them..

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  • Milind
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:15PM

    @Bewildered- “Our Indian friends are welcome to vent their anger here.”

    As if we’re waiting for your welcome or permission….

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  • Rex Minor
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:28PM

    Who is not aware of the fact that all scrap metal from weaponry including large ships eventualy end up at the Pakistan cemetry. The scrap dealers in the country make their living from it?

    Rex Minor

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  • Mr. Rationale
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:32PM

    @abreez Well, I am not defending anyone but technically those are not gifts. They are purchased by Indian Govt.

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  • Pakistani
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:32PM

    @abreez:
    Thank you for this information.

    It must be reassurring for the 700m Indians who have to defeacate in the open, that a P8 Poseidon is vigilently guarding them whilst they do their business.

    We want friendship with India. Lets talk and resolve our conflicts. We can be great neighbours. Then we will not need new or left over weapons!

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  • Ravi
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:43PM

    @abreez: Yes, the only difference is that Indians pay for their stuff, and you get it in a begging bowlRecommend

  • Ravi
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:44PM

    @abreez: Yes, the only difference is that Indians pay for their stuff, and you get it in a begging bowl

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  • Riz
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:50PM

    Reduce, Recycle & Reuse is the best practice of 21st century. So why fret over it. Pakistan thinks green. Secondly n specially to those fm across the border, what we hv done with used hardware in the past you could not do with best of breed and latest in manufacture. A fact not claim. Does M. M. Alam ring a bell. In fact yours and equally ours’ worry and concern should be that such time should never come b/w us that these are put to use. Truce preacher all the way.

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  • Bewildered
    Jan 15, 2015 - 3:55PM

    Pleased to know that Indians are rather happy just because of the word “leftover”. From now on, the Government of Pakistan should insert this word in all the arms deals so that our Indian friends do not become unhappy. BTW, we don’t mind using the “leftover” arms against your TTP stooges, and who knows whom else.

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  • Fawad
    Jan 15, 2015 - 4:36PM

    @Anon Indians only like Russia’s Hands me down… submarines etc..

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  • nasir
    Jan 15, 2015 - 4:56PM

    it all started from lunda clothes, then lunda branded computers, then lunda mobiles and then the lunda used cars and now getting used weapons in lunda.

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  • Nasier Sheikh
    Jan 15, 2015 - 9:02PM

    no harm I guess- very close people always get used/ left overs of elders. I have used left overs of my big brother.no need for being ashamed,it means closeness.

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  • yo
    Jan 15, 2015 - 9:28PM

    @abreez:
    HAL was supposed to be a totally indigenous aircraft….being both overdue and overfunded it still not having a local engine is a failure in itself

    you need C 17s for your overweight arjuns…its not a gift its a logistical requirement

    pakistan already has sea kings

    americans always sell of their older equipment when they want to develop the advanced one…that is the case with the apache….theyre gonna sell most of their AH-64Ds to gain funds to develop the advanced AH-64Es and AH-65Fs even england is considering scrapping off their apache fleet

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9722347/British-Armys-fleet-of-Apache-helicopters-could-be-scrapped.html

    chinooks are old and slow so you got screwed there….you were better off with the black hawks

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  • observer
    Jan 16, 2015 - 12:12AM

    @abreez:
    For India, American gifts are
    F404-GE-IN20 turbofan engines for HAL Tejas
    C-17 Globemaster (9)
    C-130J Super Hercules (5)
    Boeing P-8 Poseidon (6)
    Sikorsky SH-3 Sea King (8)
    Boeing AH-64D Apache (70 maybe ordered)
    Boeing CH-47 Chinook (15 is being ordered)”

    These are not GIFTS. Indians paid cold hard cash for them.

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  • zara
    Jan 16, 2015 - 1:24AM

    @abreez the big day to be proud of it will be when all the appratus you mentioned was manufactured by you unttil then take the fake pride elsewhere. And yea that i would say for pak too

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  • zara
    Jan 16, 2015 - 1:27AM

    Second thing guys indians ka dil khush karnay kay leay bol diya karo you are awesome. Jaan churao.
    Not glad with left over ammunition though and knowing usa haslat we can pretty much say the ammunition wouldnt be ueeable beyond a short duration. Yea but recycle recycleRecommend

  • Jan 16, 2015 - 5:13AM

    Beggars are not CHOSERS.

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  • Asad Malik
    Jan 16, 2015 - 6:50AM

    @James:

    Says the guy who cared enough to write a comment on a Pakistani news site.

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  • kamal
    Jan 16, 2015 - 2:58PM

    Feel pity on Pakistani…begging left over arms from US…Allaha ke naam pe de de US mai baap..hahahaha.Recommend

  • Gram Massla
    Jan 17, 2015 - 12:36AM

    Arms denote strength. And state of the art weapons allow the manufacturing West to dictate terms to whoever buys it. As long as countries like India, Pakistan and others depend on Western, and even Russian, weapons, they will have to eat crow.

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  • Tom
    Jan 17, 2015 - 5:10AM

    @Fawad. Those Russian hands me downs worth 2.3 Billion dollars can turn your land(??) into nuclear dust in a 30 seconds.!!!!!!!!!

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  • reply to ignorant abreez
    Apr 7, 2015 - 1:16PM

    @abreez:
    We got chinooks and c130s long time ago -_-Recommend

  • Schumaila
    May 7, 2015 - 12:35AM

    So Indians don’t care for the lefts overs? Is that’s why their Government was crying lurid and hoarse, begging US not to give the leftovers to Pakistan as it could be used against them? Even for double standards there should be a lowest standard to which one could stoop…

    “India in the past has opposed to the transfer of such arms to Pakistan as it believes Islamabad would eventually use the fighter jets against it.” http://tribune.com.pk/story/881919/us-hands-over-14-combat-aircraft-59-military-trainer-jets-to-pakistan-report/Recommend

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