Finding OBL in Pakistan proved war on terror was waged against wrong country: Karzai

Published: November 21, 2014
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Hamid Karzai. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE

Hamid Karzai. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE

NEW DELHI: Continuing with his anti-Pakistan rhetoric, former Afghan president Hamid Karzai on Friday said finding Osama bin Laden in Pakistan proved the war on terror was waged against ‘the wrong country’.  

Speaking at the Hindustan Times Leadership Summit in India, Karzai said the death of al Qaeda founder in Pakistan shows that Nato and allied forces were wrong in entering Afghan soil.

Renowned Indian journalist Barkha Dutt, who was chairing Karzai’s talk, tweeted his statements:

According to an NDTV report, the former president – in an apparent dig that the war should have been waged in Pakistan instead – said US should have gone to the sanctuaries of terrorism, not Afghanistan. Karzai has been unrelenting in his criticism of Pakistan during his long rule and has continued to do so even after stepping down.

Following the September 11 attack, US-led troops intervened attacked Afghanistan to dismantle al Qaeda and remove Taliban from power in the country. The chief of the terror network, however, was killed as part of a highly secretive operation in Abbottabad in May 2011, ending the biggest manhunt in history.

“My stance against certain elements of US and Nato presence was principled,” Karzai, who has often said the war on terror should not be against Afghanistan, clarified.

“I stood up against the US because I wanted them to correct their behaviour with Afghanistan.”

Rejecting warnings by his one-time counterpart General (retd) Pervez Musharraf, Karzai reiterated Afghanistan would not allow itself to become the battleground in a proxy war between India and Pakistan after the imminent departure of US-led troops.

“Afghanistan will not allow proxy war between India and Pakistan on its soil – and I’m sure India won’t do that,” Karzai said firmly, adding, “India will be there to educate our children, build dams, not to wage a proxy war against Pakistan – so I’ll give a reassurance to Musharraf that he did not worry.”

In an interview earlier this week, Musharraf warned that Pakistan would look to use ethnic Pashtuns to counter if India tries to achieve its goal of creating an “anti-Pakistan Afghanistan”. India and Pakistan have long accused each other of using proxy forces to try to gain influence in Afghanistan but the former president rejected a possibility of this.

Thanking India for participating in ‘every step’ of rebuilding Afghanistan as it suffered from invasions, foreign interferences and extremism, Karzai said, “a generation of forward-looking young Afghans have emerged and thanks a great deal to India having helped us in this regard.”

Further, commenting on Pakistan-Afghanistan relations, Karzai said, “we will engage with Pakistan as a sovereign, independent state conducting our own foreign policy and that will not be compromised.”

Karzai’s statement comes at a crucial time after the newly elected Afghan President Ashraf Ghani visited Pakistan and as Nato’s combat mission ends in December.

Pakistan was one of only three countries that recognised the Taliban regime that ruled in Kabul before being toppled in late 2001 after a US-led invasion in the wake of the September 11 attacks. The Taliban’s downfall led to Karzai’s installation as Afghan leader and he remained in power until stepping down as president earlier this year.

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  • Cynic Waheef
    Nov 21, 2014 - 11:55AM

    By the same logic, now that sanctuaries have moved into Afghanistan; should Pak attack them now Mr Karzai?

    PS: you are not relevant anymore, look at ur new president.. And learn!

    Regards,

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  • Pakistani
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:04PM

    yes and we feeded the wrong people (afghanis) on our land from last 30 years. Why don’t the afghanis pack their bags and go to their heaven (afghanistan) now.

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  • ajeetu
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:17PM

    A correct statement. Dividing Pakistan is the best solution.

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  • abreez
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:18PM

    I think this man is no more front man of those who give the world 90% of white gold from which different countries earn annually $300,000,000,000. So now he is a hungry man and proving that ‘a hungry man is angry man’.

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  • Citizen26
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:18PM

    Mr Karzai please arrange transfer of 4.5MM afghan refugees to India. Atleast try having a word with India on this.Recommend

  • wb
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:34PM

    @Pakistani:

    “yes and we feeded the wrong people (afghanis) on our land from last 30 years. Why don’t the afghanis pack their bags and go to their heaven (afghanistan) now.”

    How arrogant can Pakistanis get?

    You interfered in their country, created the situation for refugees and you dare say you fed them?

    You are incapable of feeding your own people. You are a basket case from Day 1. How can you feed another person?

    Why don’t you first take Biharis from Bangladesh?

    You dare ask Afghanistan?

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  • Javeed
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:39PM

    Solution or answer to this so called ex-? Open your border, take back 4-millions of Afghans (including your tribesmen) refugees and build wall or fences between both countries. What type of friendship you keep India your problem, just make sure no one from your side enter into Pakistan. Being pashtoon try to be brave in letter n spirit and settle your country men back in Afghanistan.

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  • ST
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:44PM

    You wouldn’t be a president and rather unknown if the war wasn’t there Mr, Karzai.

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  • Nov 21, 2014 - 12:45PM

    Mr Karzai, why are you saying this in INDIA and after 3 years of OSAMA assassination when you are no longer the president?

    (I think he has lost it)

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  • Reader
    Nov 21, 2014 - 12:56PM

    @wb
    Last I checked, we didn’t invade Afghanistan. Unless you think Pakistan was part of the Soviet Union. Learn your history and stop using false equivelancy. Biharis have been in Bangladesh since 47. Its the Bangladeshi government that refuses to give them equal rights! Pakistan is not a bihari/ethnic state, so we have no moral duty to accomadate biharis. The onus is on the government of Bangladesh to stop abusing its own population.

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  • Gurion
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:04PM

    Pakistanis can whine about Afghan refugees but, Karzai what says is blunt and true.

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  • Rex Minor
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:08PM

    Hamid Karzai statement is not time related! He would have preferred American forces leaving Afghanistan after Osama bin laden and his team were given asylum by Pakistan army chief Parvez bin Musharaf.

    Rex Minor

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  • Janjua
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:14PM

    @wb:
    get your facts straight my friend!!!we never interfered in Afghanistan!!!! Soviet Union did and they came to Pakistan….. and a few went to Iran!!!!
    incapable of feeding our own people………… we are Pakistan not India….. where more than the population of Pakistan lives below Poverty lines…….. About feeding afghani’s ” get ur facts straight again ….. check how many afghanis are living in Pakistan????!! and since how long??!! So we Pakistani’s will always dare to ask ……..!

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  • Waleed Khan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:15PM

    Haha we did? Or the did the Soviets/Americans? We can easily deport them and then you fake Pashtuns will have to deal with them committing crimes/rape like they are here. Pakistan Zindabad! True Pashtuns live in Pakistan. Look at Peshawar and then look at Kabul. Look at the difference in development. Pashtuns are much happier here in Pakistan then in Afghanistan. Just ask your refugees.

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  • indian
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:15PM

    Karzai is outspoken!

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  • Parvez
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:20PM

    When Musharraf said Karzai was not dependable and a slime ball …he was right.

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  • Fair Game
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:21PM

    @wb
    “Interfered in their Country”. Wake up Mister. It was the Soviets who invaded Afghanistan, and by the time they did, one fifth of Afghanistan was living in Pakistan. And FYI, Pakistan happens to be the most refugee-friendly country in the world, hosting 1.7 million Refugees.

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  • Feroz
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:26PM

    Afghanistan was the scapegoat and fall guy having to pay the price for the Pentagon and Pakistani Establishment projects in Afghanistan since 80’s, having gone terribly wrong. With the help of guns the Taliban really a proxy, was installed in Afghanistan, no pretense of what the Afghans wanted either. Three countries recognized this illegally installed government, clearly pointing at their motivations, outlook and mindset. To believe that Afghans are so naive and unaware about the forces unleashed to terrorize them, is to live in a make believe dreamland. Any amount of propaganda unleashed cannot alter the fact that on the ground in Afghanistan, its people consider America and Pakistan their biggest enemy. Those countries well know the reasons but ordinary folks must ask why ?

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  • rashid zaidi
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:27PM

    @wb:
    you are just an Indian who hates Pakistan thats all I can say. You do not know the facts of what happened in Afghanistan. Have your country ever fed more than 3 million refugees? How about the 60,000 plus innocent Kashmiris you have slaughtered in the past decade. Pakistan is one country which can stand up to Indian bullying. Do not mess with us.

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  • ABKhan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:40PM

    @ajeetu:

    Seems like separatist movements in India have damaged your brain. Have you thought about seeing a psychologist?

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  • Iqbal
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:41PM

    You are spot on, Mr Karzai. Other terrorists are still living in Pakistan.

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  • Afghanistan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:41PM

    I am very pleased that at least we have got someone to give response to pakistani leaders such as musharaf. I think afghans should also work to find religious scholars to reply to pakistani scholars when they issue fatwa against Afghanistan.

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  • Sukhbir
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:48PM

    Bravo! Finally somebody has the guts to call it as he sees it. Can’t agree more.Recommend

  • Gaurav
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:54PM

    Pakistan interfered in Afghanistan by sending Taliban. Taliban was only recognized by Pakistan in 90s. My pakistani friends seem to have short memory.

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  • Gaurav
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:54PM

    Pakistan interfered in Afghanistan by sending Taliban. Taliban was only recognized by Pakistan in 90s. My pakistani friends seem to have short memory.Recommend

  • Pakistani 2
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:56PM

    @wb:
    Do not ever give up your day job!!

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  • Rex Minor
    Nov 21, 2014 - 1:59PM

    @Iqbal:
    There are no terrorists in Pakistan since it has one of the largest army in the world which is terrorising its citizens similar to what the Egyptian and Indian armies are engaged in!!!

    Rex Minor

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  • goldconsumer
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:04PM

    @Afghanistan:
    Is Mr. Karzai now planning to live in India? Just a check. He holes in the plates he eats. Its an embarrassment you even consider him a leader.

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  • Hedgefunder
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:05PM

    Yes ! Truth always hurt ! Pakistanis are not use to hearing anything except what is told to them by their deep state;
    Pakistan did not bear any cost of refugees maintenance, as UNHCR and various other bodies provided ample funding for this.
    Addtionally Pakistan was rewarded with lots of extras and goodies too , so don’t even think that you fed this people.

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  • Afghanistan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:06PM

    When Pakistanis say they have feed afghans, I get pain in my kidney because Pakistan has never given them basic rights mentioned in UNHCR chartered. Up to now, they haven’t gotten proper residential documents, are not allowed to get employment.Besides the maltreatment of pakistani police which afghans will never forget. They live either in rented houses or in desserts which they themselves transformed into living places. In contrast, when afghans are given refugee status in Europe, they are provided with all basic needs. I think it was Pakistan who gained more than afghans. It became atomic power owing to the help of west during soviet invasion.

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  • Amer
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:09PM

    Karzai has no backbone and the Indians here are always full of poison..

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  • Azi
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:10PM

    @ABKhan:

    He is a gone case, born for this purpose. Only to show how hateful he can be, pay him no mind/ importance.

    But I think the ET comment moderation staff do need to see a psychiatrist. They can openly allow completely anti – pakistani comments on pakistani website (esp. ones with no logic/ explanation of the point) but wont allow a befitting response to these trolls.

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  • Umar R.
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:12PM

    @Cynic Waheef:

    BRAVO. Very well said, Karzai remembering this NOW… ???

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  • Pathfinder
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:13PM

    All the angry responses from the Pakistani brothers do not answer one simple question. How OBL could live comfortably in the army area of Abbottabad.

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  • Ghostrider
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:14PM

    Rolling stone gathers no moss…Mr. karzai you are a spent bullet who has even less relevance now than you had during your Presidential days. No wonder he said this because he is in India and pleasing the masters is a must. Just FYI Mr. Karzai the food that you ate in your presidential palace in Kabul came from Pakistan.

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  • Samir
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:17PM

    @Afghanistan: He is your ex leader. And what did he do for you Afghans when he was in office?

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  • Ghostrider
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:22PM

    @Afghanistan: Please also ask him to stand up and take back 4 million afghan refugees who do nothing but crime here

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  • Legion
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:31PM

    @wb:

    You’ve got the history wrong, it was Afghanistan that interfered first with their Loy Afghanistan agenda, propping up of tribesmen in FATA and their military incursions in Bajaur back in 1961(the actual Defence day) and also support of Marxist seperatists in Balochistan under the PM Daud Khan, Afghanistan messed with Pakistan first, not the other way around -strategic depth came long after in the 70s.

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  • Nov 21, 2014 - 2:43PM

    @Reader: : Pakistan created Taliban ( popularly termed as the wall of Islam) at the behest of USA and with dual interest of controlling Afghanistan using the same Taliban forces which were trained , nurtured and supported by Pak Army/ ISI. How can you ignore it ? The mess so created used the brute force ( with support from Pakistan) and extremist ideology crept in which pushed Afghanistan in a civil war and economy in shatter.
    Selective narration will not change the truth.

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  • AVMPolpot
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:44PM

    @ABKhan: ” Seems like separatist movements in India have damaged your brain. Have you thought about seeing a psychologist?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Sir why dont u refer him to the Psychologist u consulted in 1971….remember East Pakistan?

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  • MANU
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:51PM

    Afghanistan can progress more than pakistan and hope the country can become more richer than pakistan

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  • sharabi
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:56PM

    @Pakistani
    No offence, your country your choice, but let me correct a false fact.
    Your country was providing just unfertilized land to erect Temporary shelter, nothing more yes i says nothing more. You are not able to feed your IDPs properly & you are going so big mouth?
    Food: World Food Program,
    Medical: UNICEF, RED CROSS, UNHRC
    In fact those poor afghans are a fortunate cause for Pakistani politicians to beg Aid money & fill their pockets.

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  • Last Word
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:59PM

    Though a much belated observation, but one has to agree with the former President. This is also true that India will never send proxies in Pakistan since it is against the state policy and the fact that no terrorist group can ever be trusted as most of them attack their mentors.

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  • Janjua
    Nov 21, 2014 - 2:59PM

    @Gaurav:
    talking about memory !!! what about the soviet invasion……… and what india says Pakistan is supporting cross border terrorism ( so what was india doing in 1971) ……. When u come at the receiving end of something u start !!! u start crying……….

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  • Pakistani 2
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:01PM

    @Gaurav:
    Then let us also remind you of your support to Northern Alliance!!

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  • Janjua
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:03PM

    @goldconsumer:
    Nicely Put mate!!!!

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  • Ghostrider
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:09PM

    @Hedgefunder:
    Funny how indians are commenting here with their usual know it all attitude when they dont know jack about Afghanistan

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  • Nov 21, 2014 - 3:31PM

    He was a faithful stoogy of the American leadership for two decades as long as he received American Dollars and humantarian aid. He should not forget that Osama bin Laden and his Islamists supporters fought the Russians to liberate Afghan territory and allowed them to live as an independent Muslim state. Pakistan trained the Afghans to fight the Russian aggressors. Pakistan had neither any knowledge of Osama bin Laden (how he was recruited and brought to Afghanistan?) and his whereabouts and nor was attacked by any country. The Americans gave the Indians the rights of reconstruction of Afghanistan and they picked up Hamid Karzai, an Indian educated President. The Indians started waging a proxy war against Pakistan using Afghan territory as soon as he was inducted in the government. The question arises as to why Mr. Karzai didn’t make such statements when he was sworn Afghan President. Then, he was all praise for the Americans, he handed many Talibans to the Americans.The Americans and every forum in the world speak about his corruption. Besides, is this the reward of housing more than ten millions Afghans in Pakistan. I believe he has lost his senses for the lust of lost power he enjoyed so much. Alas!

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  • Pakistani
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:34PM

    @Pathfinder: at your service Indian. before how it must be when? when did you see, any proof you have? you always speak without proof. one day when the hoax opens, give a five finger stamp on your face. :)

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  • Careless Whispers
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:36PM

    @ajeetu:
    U ppl r having these wet dream for years.. Wake up kid .. :)

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  • Viking Star
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:42PM

    Had the American said they found OBL in Uganda or Indonesia, they killed and buried his body in sea, who would have objected?
    The world’s most wanted man, for whom the US fought in Afghanistan for over 10 years, because of whom tens of thousands of US soldiers died, because of whom the US economy thrashed, tens of thousands went jobless. “IF” the US “really” captured and killed OBL, they would “surely” have provided (with pride) the proofs that they have killed the guy they were looking for…for 10 long years.
    9/11 was all scripted by the American/CIA, all the experts from engineering sciences and forensics are of the view that it was all American conspiracy. Don’t believe me? visit http://www.physics911.net
    Never trust America, never trust their CIA.

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  • Shamima
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:48PM

    Who hosted millions of Afghan refugees in Pakistan including the family of Mr. Karzai?

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  • kani
    Nov 21, 2014 - 3:49PM

    @pathfinder. can you answer my question? why OBL deadbody picture/videos were not made public where beheading of Saddam Hussein was public? OBL was never found in pakistan!

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  • jock
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:00PM

    Okay…so if it is agreed for a moment with the Indians that Pak didn’t feed the Afghans. Why don’t they just leave, then?

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  • jock
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:05PM

    @Afghanistan:
    Nonsense!! Half of them are working in Karachi on fake scanned photocopies.

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  • jock
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:14PM

    Considering we Pakistanis have treated Afghans like animals, why don’t they leave Pakistan? If we haven’t fed them (!), why don’t they refuse our shelter even now? Don’t they have any nang left? Are they waiting for the Afghan law and order situation to improve to Switzerland levels before they leave for their homeland?
    India has open welcomed Afghans with open arms. At least for the past few centuries!!! Maybe they should go there again. Come on, ET!! Play on the Paki side this one time and print it!!!

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  • samit
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:23PM

    On this logic, saudi arabia should have been invaded first

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  • syed baqar ahsan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:25PM

    The moment one is called and given the mic he forget the past first,Osama was funded trained and launched for Afghanistan,few soul seller brought him in Pakistan and housed as guided by the CIA.Abbottabad drama was to bluff American people by CIA with the approver of democrats.Revisit manhattan time square ticker it was “OBL KILLED,AND BURIED OBAMA WILL WIN NEXT ELECTION”,name of the whole game will be understood. Karzai don’t worry. we know how to handle India even in our worst conditions

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  • Amanullah Khan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:32PM

    The new president is just a nominal head. The real power will be exercised by ex-President Karzai and Abdullah. Hence his statement means a lot in Afghanistan political field.Recommend

  • Rex Minor
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:33PM

    @Afghanistan:

    I would’nt get emotional or excited with the remarks of the Pakistanis who obviously are not familiar with the geography of the territory of Pashtuns who practice Pakhtun Wali or Ummah on both sides of the divide. This is no different from the german speaking people living in Alsace in France, who have more in common with German people than french.

    Rex Minor

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  • Kushal
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:33PM

    To Reader, Janjua, etc. WB is correct. you DID invade Afghanistan. Otherwise who do you think sent millions of Mujahideen along with arms and other resource to that country? Pakistan to day cannot feed its own children, cannot guarantee a polio free and terrorism free life. And you talk about feeding Afghanistan. And by the entire NWFP belongs to them. Retaining them inside Pakistan, existance of this very Durand line is a colonial legacy. You are occupying their own province, and you talk about feeding them.

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  • Bewildered
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:42PM

    @sharabi:

    “In fact those poor afghans are a fortunate cause for Pakistani politicians to beg Aid money & fill their pockets.”

    Please take all these millions of Afghans to India along with all the benefits you have mentioned Pakistan is getting because of their presence here. Prove that India is a real friend of Afghans by giving them refuge.

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  • HashK03
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:45PM

    @Pathfinder: All the angry responses from the Pakistani brothers do not answer one simple question. How OBL could live comfortably in the army area of Abbottabad.

    OBL crossed borders of several countries illegally. He was pushed into Pakistan from Afghanistan when allied forces launched their war in Afghanistan. He was living illegally in Pakistan just like many Afghani’s.

    Buy the way he was killed in a village on the outskirts of Abbottabad which was not a part of army garrison.

    I am not sure if he was living in comfort or not. A runaway billionaire living in a compound in some village hiding from everyone, was in as much comfort as anyone want’s to imagine.

    I hope this answer’s your question without you feeling any anger from Pakistani brothers..

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  • Fahre Afghan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:56PM

    Karzai also knows that both US & Pakistan do not want peace in Afghanistan. Every Afghan including Dr Ghani unity Government are very well aware of this. Majority of Afghans has highest regard for karzai. If too much arrogance has stopped Pakistanis brain to understand the reality they shall watch latest Jirga TV program on Afghanistan. Ghani unity Government wants to test the water & they will come up with concrete policy on Pakistan. Karzai thinkings will make the basic architecture of this policy. The ball is in US court what to do with the terror factories. May be they want to keep it for future use as they have been doing in the past. By the look of it the game of terror is over. It is no more profitable business.

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  • HashK03
    Nov 21, 2014 - 4:56PM

    War was waged on terror by the way that’s why its called war on terror. I believe it was not waged on one particular country. Karzai needs, just like many other Afghans, some rational brain.

    Afghan’s are suffering from hangovers of medieval thoughts.

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  • BOL
    Nov 21, 2014 - 5:05PM

    No wonder Afghanis are the most ungrateful people on earth. You people have destroyed the social fabric of Pakistan cuz it was you who introduced kalashankov – AK-47, drugs and other vices in our country. You mr karzai, working as a mechanic in Pakistan have the cheeks to talk…???Recommend

  • Rumormonger
    Nov 21, 2014 - 5:09PM

    Pakistan hosted Karzai for decades for more time than OBL. He was all lovey dovey to Pakistan when he first came to power.

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  • Pakhtun
    Nov 21, 2014 - 5:32PM

    exactly what Pakistan said before the world biggest terrorist Military terrorized Pakistan with threats. That war in Afghanistan is not a solution.

    By the way, in that scenario Taliban would still be in power in Afghanistan and Karazai would be cheffing in Mumbai Bazar serving his beloved Hindus……LoL

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  • ivehadit
    Nov 21, 2014 - 5:32PM

    He’s a voice in the wilderness now. why does he deserve front page billing?

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  • HumanBeing
    Nov 21, 2014 - 5:37PM

    A very irresponsible statement by the former puppet president of a country whose ppl in masses are seeking refuge in the very same country he believes should had been invaded rather than his. Not surprised this statement is coming from New Delhi. Another waring sign for Pakistan about India’s growing influence in Afghanistan with the aim to isolate her on all sides. No peace with India until they start behaving. We don’t need them, they don’t need us. The lively hood of Pakistanis does not depend on India. The govt should once and for all severe ties with our unpredictable neighbour and maintain channels if required through another country preferably China (imo).
    Too many indian trolls, seems like indian news websites aren’t good enough.

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  • pakistani pushtun.
    Nov 21, 2014 - 5:52PM

    @Afghanistan:
    Some one ask Karzai why he took refuge in Quetta. Why didnt he stay in Afghanistan with his countrymen. Why didnt he go to his fav India? First find scolars that help u deal with the mess inbur country. The Indians help u because they want to take advantage of the anti Pakistani sentiment. Have them house ur refugees.

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  • Anwer Chughtai
    Nov 21, 2014 - 6:03PM

    @ajeetu:
    The correct solution for peace in the region is to support the groups who want to be independant from India.

    Anyway It is just a matter of time.

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  • Rex Minor
    Nov 21, 2014 - 6:21PM

    @HashK03:
    Hamid Karzai is the member of one of the most powerful Pashtun tribe, was educated in India, and is the only leader who has outlasted several power brokers in the American administrations and showed the like we say the ”STERN’ to the President of USA.

    Rex Minor

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  • Pakhtun
    Nov 21, 2014 - 6:49PM

    @Pakistani:

    I disagree with narrative that Afghans should be sent back as a psychological imperiled Afghani (trained and taught by HINDU RAW) has issues with PAKISTAN. Afghans, Living in PAKISTAN, are mostly hard working people and they should be repatriated in friendly manner and should become bonding link between PAKISTAN and AFGHANISTAN. These will be the one who will clean up HINDUS (Like KARZAI) out.

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  • Afghan Maihan
    Nov 21, 2014 - 10:37PM

    @ Pakhtun

    Hindus like Karzai? Watch an Afghan/Pashto television channel and measure and gauge how many people think like Hindu Karzai in Afghanistan. Just because we share an ethnicity and religion does not mean we forget transgressions and forgive. Diplomacy today is not about ethnicity and religion, it is about national interests and Karzai, Ghani or any other leader will always be assertive in their dealings with Pakistan and call a spade a spade.

    Calling Karzai Hindu is like calling Nawaz Sharif a Godless Chinese or a heathen Arab. I would rather be a Hindu than a dirty Chinese or a heathen Arab.

    By the way, I know many Pakistani Pashtuns here in the US and trust me when I tell you that as an Afghan Pashtun I have nothing in common with them besides our language and religion. They don’t speak Pashto very well and their customs are different than ours. They don’t know how to do the Atan, which is the very essence of being Pashtun.

    ET: Please publish. I am only countering a racist and bigoted comment.

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  • Freeman
    Nov 21, 2014 - 11:35PM

    @MANU: On the contrary, best wishes to both countries as progress in both countries will reduce tensions between these two quite dysfunctional nations and spill over to the neighborhood and, indeed, the world.

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  • Rehan hafiz
    Nov 22, 2014 - 12:35AM

    Mr Karazaiis authority as President never went beyond his shoes. He served as an American tout and now has the audacity to speak. Who could take a clown like him seriously? Looks like a clown and dresses like one.

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  • MSS
    Nov 22, 2014 - 12:35AM

    Much of the discussion above is flawed. It is not about the Soviets or Afghan refugees. What Karzai said was that US should not have invaded Afghanistan for War on Terror. Afghan refugees have been pouring into Pakistan since the days of the Soviet occupation that had nothing to do with War on Terror. People become refugees when the living conditions at home become intolerable for whatever reasons. Look at the Syrian, Kurds, Baltic StatesRecommend

  • Khattak
    Nov 22, 2014 - 1:29AM

    @Pakhtun,,, people like you are exactly the target of Musharaf wanting to use you as proxyRecommend

  • rashid zaidi
    Nov 22, 2014 - 7:10AM

    @Iqbal: You are another Indian stooge in disguise.The reality is that Pakistan has been ravaged by the inflix of millions of Afghans past 35 years. They are an ungrateful lot, there is no denying it. No country has the guts to have carried that burden. THe Indian want nothing but disruption and chaos inside Pakistan, they use the Afghan as their proxies. Karzai likes to brown nose the Indian because he went to school there. He is corrupt to the core. The Americans besides 14 billion dollars in aid use to give him suit cases full of dollars to please him, this documented. His own brother who got killed because of drug deal gone bad was the biggest dope smuggler of Afghanistan, he has ZERO credibility, and Dr. Abdullah Abdullah is as bad, another Indian stooge. Thank God Dr. Ghani has good sense, married to a Lebanese, the man is seen the world. I hope he can stay and sort things out.Karzai with his Dracula robe should live with his masters in India for the good of Afghanistan.

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  • xulfjan
    Nov 22, 2014 - 7:31AM

    @wb:
    You are obviously a rabid Indian or and Indophile Afghan as unfortunately some of Pakistanis getting too much of a credence to Mr Karzai statements. Before you go on a diatribe about who feeds who, the facts on the ground is that Mr Karzai was a refugee in Quetta for a number of years. It is a fact that there have been millions of unfortunate Afghans living in Pakistan. I along with multitude of Pakistanis grew up with them but looking back I cant remember ever had any problems. The fact that most of those Afghans are appreciative of this common public hospitality and has lived amicably with the rest of Pakistanis. It is also a fact that India had not contributed anything to this diaspora. There is a clear geopolitical advantage for India making roads and all but it is also a fact the contiguous physical and ethnic borders with Pakistan cant be wished away even if all the Karzais of the world wanted it it to. they will have to deal with it even the Ex President Karzai.

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  • Adil Uddin
    Nov 22, 2014 - 7:32AM

    @AVMPolpot:

    But it has been more than 4 decades. Plus Bangladesh never shared any border with Pakistan , so did you ever consult geographical maps? But still Indian government is welcome to repeat the same and this time we the people of Pakistan are united irrespective of our sectarian backgrounds or ethnicity.

    And it may hurt many Indian friends over here but majority of Bangladeshi cricket fans prefer to support Pakistani team rather than India. Remember it became an issue quite recently

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  • numbersnumbers
    Nov 22, 2014 - 9:58AM

    @Viking Star:
    Rather than referencing the conspiracy blog you provided, all should look up “9/11″on wikipedia which is far more credible, along with “9/11 conspiracy theories” also on wikipedia!
    As for your “all the experts” delusion, wikipedias 9/11 journal has hundreds of references to support their position, while your blog has ????

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  • BlackHat
    Nov 22, 2014 - 10:13AM

    Why is everybody so upset? What Karzai said, has been said openly by Musharraf and Sartaj Aziz among others. Many of Pakistan’s top journalists say the same thing on TV. There are plenty of articles in the media. Lots of books have been published on the subject. Collection boxes for various charity organizations are plainly visible in the streets. Volunteers of theses charity organizations going around openly with the tools of their trade. How does one not see what is right in front one’s nose? It is not pleasant to hear these things, but then what is to be said?

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  • Nov 22, 2014 - 10:13AM

    @Pakistani:
    in the name of afghan refugees,Pakistan has earned Billion of dollars from America and other western countries.It always begs funds from donor countries.Pak has not fed Afghan refugees free of cost ,rather the situation has given Pakistan the opportunity to earn huge money.

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  • Fact checker
    Nov 22, 2014 - 12:20PM

    I find it interesting that Indian media goes out of their way to harass and belittle Pakistan while Pakistani media doesn’t even have time for one 30 second segment on India. Even this forum is a proof that Indians will go out of their way to try and agitate Pakistanis by any means necessary, or else why would they comment on a Pakistani website? From their current leaders to the local chai wala everyone has something to say about Pakistan. Your obsession with Pakistan is disgusting. Please live and let live. I suppose its not possible now since the current leader of India shows how “secular” you retards actually are.

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  • LS
    Nov 23, 2014 - 4:54AM

    @Ghostrider:
    We know more than you do, You did interfere there and supported terrorism in that country, Soviets were just an excuse and you are still doing it.

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  • LS
    Nov 23, 2014 - 4:57AM

    @sharjeel ashraf:
    Well your folks are still saying Gujarat and Babri masjid after 24 and 12 years respectively. OBL will haunt you for eternity.

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  • Sexton Blake
    Nov 23, 2014 - 5:27AM

    @numbersnumbers:
    I am still waiting for some reasonably believable evidence that OBL was in Abbottabad, and will not go to deeply into the nonsense which emanates from Washington in regard to 9/11, Wikipedia notwithstanding..

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  • nomi
    Nov 23, 2014 - 9:44AM

    Well many Afghans and the US military feel the same way.

    Many american and british journalists are now writing about it and say that the real enemy was always Pakistan.

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  • Ahmed Ali Khan
    Nov 23, 2014 - 10:32AM

    @ajeetu:

    Shut up Indian. Those who think bad mark my words one day India will be divided in many countries.

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  • Bewildered
    Nov 23, 2014 - 2:21PM

    “Finding OBL in Pakistan proved war on terror was waged against wrong country: Karzai”

    Pleased to know Tora-Bora is in Pakistan. Moreover, the areas where Al-Qaida training camps were setup also come under Pakistani territory. Thank you Mr. Karzai.

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  • Iqbal
    Nov 23, 2014 - 3:00PM

    @rashid zaidi:
    I responded to your comments with supporting links but ET did not want to print it. Am I surprised of this damning article?
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/liberal-newspaper-express-tribune-silenced-pakistani-taliban
    ET has become home of censorship because of the talibans amongst them.

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