(LIVE) Islamabad protests: Fired up Imran calls out govt for 'undemocratic' arrests

Published: September 11, 2014
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Imran Khan addressing the crowd at D-Chowk. PHOTO: SCREENGRAB

Imran Khan addressing the crowd at D-Chowk. PHOTO: SCREENGRAB

Imran Khan addressing the crowd at D-Chowk. PHOTO: SCREENGRAB Arrested workers look out from a prison van following a protest at the court area in Islamabad on September 13, 2014. PHOTO: AFP Activists of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) gather around a police prison van carrying arrested workers to prevent them from leaving the court area in Islamabad on September 13, 2014. PHOTO: AFP PTI workers celebrate during the 'Azadi' march. PHOTO: AFP
Imran Khan addressing sit-in protesters on Friday.PHOTO EXPRESS NEWS SCREENGRAB Supporters of Tahirul Qadri listen to his Friday prayers sermon in front of Parliament. PHOTO: AFP JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman. PHOTO: AFP Imran Khan addressing his supporters on Wednesday 10, 2014. PHOTO: INP

As the talks between Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI) and the Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) and the government resumed, courtesy the Opposition’s Political Jirga, both protesting parties have shifted their sit-ins back to D-Chowk.

The move comes in the wake of news that the Chinese President had postponed his trip to Pakistan owing to the uncertainty in Islamabad.
As their protests enter the 28th day, leaders of both groups remain resolute in their demand for Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s resignation.

KEY DEVELOPMENTS 

– The army have again refuted the notion that they are behind the protests.

– Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif says the government will pay heed to constitutional and legal demands of PTI and PAT.

– PAT have called off negotiations with the government following arrest of a member of their negotiation team

– PTI too have broken off talks citing arrest of their DJ and other supporters

Read all our coverage of PTI’s Azadi March here and the Inqilab March here.

Updates of the Islamabad protests from September 9 and 10, 2014, can be found here.

September 13, 11:58pm

PAT president Raheeq Abbasi has arrived atop the PTI container near D-Chowk following instructions from Dr Tahirul Qadri.

Abbasi says the government thought they would hold the longest joint session in the history of Pakistan and call the protesters traitors, but all it showed was the parties in the assembly were united against the people who who had gathered outside the parliament against their governance.

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September 13, 10:16pm

Imran Khan says that they will eliminate the Urdu-medium, English-medium and madrassa systems and make one unified system.

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September 13, 10:10pm

After 15 years, I made one request in Shaukhat Khanum. One of the donors who wanted to treat his mother who was five years over the criteria age. But the hospital rejected my request.

He adds that he will take Mushtaq Sukhera and Dar Alam to task and make an example out of them. Further, they will make an example out of Nawaz and Shahbaz Sharif.

He adds that once in power, he will adopt a much simpler and leaner form of government.

First, he will bulldoze the governor house in Lahore. Then, he will turn his attention towards the governor house in Peshawar which will be made a park while the ‘governor house’ in Nathia Gali will be turned into a five-star hotel which will earn much needed revenue.

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September 13, 9:50pm

Imran again asks how did Nawaz Sharif come to own the Mayfair property, and how could his son live in a flat worth Rs800 million.

He adds that for transparency he has listed details of tax that he pays and the assets he owns on the party website for transparency. On the other hand, Imran claims Nawaz Sharif pays only Rs1.6 million tax in Pakistan, but Nawaz’s family pays nearly Rs20 million in tax in the UK.

He reiterates that if any leader has his wealth stowed abroad, they will not care what happens in Pakistan.

Turning his attention towards his ‘Naya Pakistan’, he says they will emphasise on education and will focus on Allama Iqbal.

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September 13, 9:48pm

Imran Khan says Dr Aafia Siddiqui’s maternal uncle came to meet him after she was abducted. Imran says he raised his voice for her but no one came to his side. But British journalist Yvonne Ridley came to his aid.

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September 13, 9:45pm

Imran Khan says he will hold Nawaz Sharif accountable. And once Nawaz Sharif is gone, he will take the IG Islamabad and IG Punjab to task for what the police under their command did to their supporters and for the Model Town incident.

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September 13, 9:35pm

Imran Khan says all those people present at the protest have proved that a new Pakistan is being formed.

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September 13, 9:25pm

Senator Rehman Malik, who is part of the opposition’s political jirga joins the chorus of voices urging the prime minister to release PAT and PTI workers who have been detained by police.

He added that if he was in place of PAT leadership, he too would have boycotted talks.

Malik adds that their jirga had eased the way for talks between the three parties.

Meanwhile, PAT chief Dr Tahirul Qadri told his supporters that if any policeman moved to arrest them or to attack them, they should break the legs of that police officer.

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September 13, 7:10pm

Addressing his supporters, a fiery Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chief Imran Khan questions PM Nawaz if it is democratic to arrest young workers.

“Officials putting young people behind bars should be ashamed of themselves,” he says, adding, “It is our democratic right to protest peacefully.”

“There is no room for negotiations any more,” Imran says angrily, reiterating, “We will not leave till the premier resigns.”

“Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s real face has been unveiled, he is a dictator and his rule is worse than General Pervez Musharraf’s rule,” Imran adds.

“We cannot rely on the police or judiciary anymore,” the PTI chief says.

He ended his brief address to his workers telling them he will address them again at 9:30pm.

Express News screengrab of PTI chief Imran Khan addressing his workers.

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September 13, 6:39pm

Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) leader Rehman Malik warns that clashes could erupt again, if political solution for the current crisis is not found.

“The opposition jirga will work on starting negotiations once again,” Malik says, while speaking to reporters in Karachi.

Meanwhile, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain has urged the government to release workers of the PAT and the PTI, terming them ‘innocent’.

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September 13, 5:28pm

Defending the arrests of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) workers, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar has said they were held for attacking state property, and not for protesting.

Addressing a press conference on Saturday, the interior minister said 20 people suspected of involvement in an attack on the Pakistan Television (PTV) headquarters two weeks ago have been identified, of which seven have been arrested.

Read the full story here.

Express News screengrab of Chaudhry Nisar.

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September 13, 4:17pm

PTI leader Jehangir Tareen says their democratic right to protest is being violated by the government.

Tareen questions the judiciary if it is lawful of the police to arrest peaceful workers from their homes and roads while addressing the media in Islamabad.

“The government is hiding that four to eight people were killed during the clashes between police and protesters,” he alleges.

Further, warning IG Islamabad, Tareen says PTI’s Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa president Azam Swati was detained and their workers are being mistreated.

“We have suspended all negotiations,” Tareen says, adding, “I have informed the opposition jirga of our decision as well.”

Read the full story here.

Express News screengrab of the press conference.

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September 13, 3:48pm

Former Test cricketer Abdul Qadir’s house was raided by police, as his daughter Fatima Qadir is the president of the PTI women’s wing, Express News reports.

The family had been made aware of a possible raid, after which they spent the night at a relatives’ house.

Police had been conducting these raids in an attempt to arrest PTI members.

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September 13, 3:44pm

PTI leader Jehangir Tareen mirrors Tahirul Qadri’s views of not holding talks with the government till workers are released, Express News reports.

Tareen also added that the capital is being sealed off once again.

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September 13, 3:15pm

Addressing his supporters, PAT chief Dr Tahirul Qadri says 12 of his personal guards have been arrested.

“When they (guards) went home after their duty, they were picked up from the rooms of their rest house,” Qadri says, adding his guards have been charged for carrying weapons even though they have arms licenses.

Qadri calls off negotiations with the government till they release all arrested PAT and PTI workers and leaders.

Qadri tells his supporters to reconvene at 6pm, as he will address them again at 7pm.

Read the full story here.

Express News screengrab of Qadri addressing his supporters.

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September 13, 3:13pm

Express News reports that PTI will hold an ’emergency press conference’ at 4pm.

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September 13, 3:09pm

AML leader Sheikh Rasheed says he fears the current situation will worsen by today evening.

“There is no point of negotiations now,” he adds.

Rasheed further alleges the government is not presenting PTI’s arrested workers in court.

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September 13, 2:27pm

PTI leader Azam Swati has been arrested, Express News reports.

Swati was arrested moments after IG Islamabad warned that people would be arrested for violating Section 144, if the crowd did not disperse.

Condemning the arrest of Swati, PTI leader Arif Alvi says the Islamabad police is trying to create violence.

Speaking to Express News, Swati says he has been “wrongfully detained”.

“We are not violating Section 144. We are protesting peacefully,” he says, adding that PTI leader Shibli Faraz has also been detained.

PHOTO: AFP

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September 13, 2:14pm

While talking to Express News, PTI lawyer Hamid Khan says that they will contest these arrests in the court of law.

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September 13, 2:08pm

While addressing the media, IG Islamabad says that it is the police’s duty to disperse a crowd that violates Section 144 of the law.

Moreover, the IG added that the police will not use force against protesters.

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September 13, 1:58pm

The prisoner van carrying PTI workers has left for the police station, Express News reports.

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September 13, 1:49pm

“The police are treating PTI workers like animals by tying them up with ropes,” PTI member Andleeb Abbas says.

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September 13, 1:45pm

Express News reports that PTI workers have deflated all the tyres of the police vans present.

PHOTO: AFP

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September 13, 1:41pm

PTI workers are attempting to deflate tyres of police van to prevent it from moving forward.

Moreover, the driver from the van has been removed as a result of the efforts of PTI workers.

Workers can be heard chanting ‘Go Nawaz, go!’

Activists of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) gather around a police prison van carrying arrested workers to prevent them from leaving the court area in Islamabad on September 13, 2014. PHOTO: AFP

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September 13, 1:18pm

A court in Islamabad has ordered that the hundreds of PTI and PAT workers arrested by the police be sent to jail for 14 days on judicial remand, Express News reports.

Those arrested are being charged with electricity and water theft.

DJ Butt, the person responsible for playing music at PTI sit-ins, is also reportedly being sent to jail for using a loudspeaker to play music.

“I’m fulfilling my duty. I did not do anything illegal,” Butt says, while talking to Express News.

Express News screengrab of DJ Butt at the police station.

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September 13, 01:57am

Meanwhile, PTI chief Imran Khan urges his supporters not to stay at home owing to an alleged crackdown.

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September 13, 12:45am

Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) will on Saturday submit their replies in the Supreme Court over apprehensions raised by parliamentarians’ over misrepresentation of army’s support for their sit-ins.

Read the full story here.

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September 13, 12:26am

Government has imposed section 144 in Rawalpindi for 48 hours with effect from 12am on September 13, 2014, our correspondent Sehrish Wasif reports from Islamabad.

According to DCO Rawalpindi Sajid Zafar, section 144 has been imposed owing to terror threats in the district. Under section 144, assembly of four or more people has been barred along with a ban on pillion riding, carrying weapons and use of loud of speakers.

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September 13, 12:06am

As many as 400 PTI supporters have been detained by the police in Lahore, Express News reports.

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September 12, 9:55pm

Lamenting the arrest of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf’s (PTI) supporters, party chief Imran Khan said he would ask his vice-chairman and head of PTI’s negotiation committee to discontinue talks with the government till they are released.

Hitting out government for use of force against peaceful protesters, he said even dictators like Musharraf did not committed such atrocities against protesters. “I want to ask judiciary under what law PTI supporters are detained?”

“Musharraf’s dictatorship was better than Nawaz Sharif’s democracy.”

Read the full story here.

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September 12, 8:00pm

After arrest of negotiating team member and crackdown on PAT workers, PAT have suspended talks with the government negotiating team.

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September 12, 6:20pm

Ahsan Iqbal says the government has decided to release detained PAT activists, after the party approached them for doing so.

He added the government wishes to continue talks and would meet the PAT delegation on Monday at 8pm.

Meanwhile, PML-Q chief Chaudhary Shujaat Hussain has met Dr Tahirul Qadri in his container in Islamabad.

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September 12, 6:01pm

Arshad Shah, a protester, feels trapped: worn out after weeks of street demonstrations against the government, he wants to go home but protest organisers will not let him.

Like many other protesters led by cleric Tahir ul-Qadri, Shah said organisers had taken away his national identification card to prevent him from leaving the protest site outside government offices in Islamabad. Read the full story here:

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September 12, 5:01pm

While updating the media about the ongoing Operation Zarb-e-Azb, DG ISPR Asim Bajwa said that he believes in the complete supremacy of the law and Constitution, and says that the army facilitated to end the political deadlock for the greater national interest.

Moreover, Bajwa stated that the army has “nothing to do with the government”.

“Red Zone was our responsibility. The attack on PTV Headquarters was not our fault,” he said.

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September 12, 12:26am

A pillion riding ban has been instituted by the district administration in Islamabad for 10 days.
DC Islamabad Mujahid Sherdil said that the pillion riding ban had been imposed under section 144.

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September 11, 10:26pm

Imran Khan, while addressing sit-in participants, says if recommendations for mitigating floods were acted upon, Nawaz and Shahbaz Sharif would not have had to don gum boots and stand in flood waters for ‘photo sessions’.

“Why is Nawaz not willing to resign for a month, during which the Judicial Commission could probe May 2013 elections,” he said.

He says Pakistanis are not equal citizens since they are not given their due rights.

The PTI chairman points out failings in justice system by illustrating how FIRs were registered against the victims of Model Town incident.

“In any other democratic setup, the assembly would have evicted Nawaz Sharif for lying in the NA.”

The PTI chairman says that in NA-256 Karachi – PTI candidate had 84,000 votes audited. Of these, only 6,000 votes were found legitimate.

In NA-258 a PML-N candidate was contesting, and only 4,000 votes were found legitimate. Tribunal ordered re-election, he adds.

Imran adds that he will reveal who killed two parliamentarians, including MQM’s Tahira Asif and Handri Masih on Saturday, adding that two MNAs and a police official were involved. He further hinted that they may have been killed for raising their voice for the poor and members of minority communities whose lands were being usurped.

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September 11, 7:36pm

JI Amir Sirajul Haq says ‘opposition jirga’ has conveyed an ‘easy solution’ to the current political impasse, adding that all the three parties should pay heed to the suggestions given, Express News reports.

Meanwhile, talks between ‘opposition jirga’ and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf have begun.

Leaders including Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Asad Umar and Rehman Malik are present at Jahangir Tareen’s residence in Islamabad.

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September 11, 1:20pm

Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman calls on Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in Islamabad, Radio Pakistan reports.

During their meeting, they discussed the ongoing political crisis in the country.

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September 11, 12:45am

PTI chief Imran Khan interacting with his supporters. PHOTO: ONLINE

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September 11, 12:35am

Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan on Thursday demanded that Prime Minister should explain how he built property in a posh area of London and make millions of dollars worth of investments in Europe.

Standing atop his container-cum-stage at D-Chowk on the 28th day of their protest against a government that the PTI claims is fraud, Imran Khan claimed that Nawaz Sharif had made nearly $320 million worth of investments in Europe through Robert Hersch, against which there were no official record of receipts.

Read the full story here.

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Reader Comments (145)

  • Maria
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:19AM

    Making claims about millions without any evidence is low by any standards. It’s time for Nawaz to start talking about Jemima and his kids in London or abour Tahirul Qadri’s kids living with him on welfare in Canada. It seems that Imran Khan is willing to say or do anything to breath life into his failed Putsch. The sooner he realises that he is going nowhere with this time wasting protest the better. Pakistanis want people to work and debate in parliament – not atop containers! Go home Imran Khan and grow up.

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  • ModiFied
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:42AM

    One month of blackmail which is turning out to be his black facing. No body anywhere in the world is supporting this so called movement.

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  • Observing The New Pakistan
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:47AM

    The leaders of new Pakistan are characters from Maula Jutt who can’t stop finger-combing their hair and wear scarfs in their necks and mesmerize shallow characters in the media and sadly the so called educated middle class . If that’s the new Pakistan , then that won’t be for long , as shallow characters cannot actually cope with the real problems of living in the 21st century , they can only use the tools of the 21st century to promote their own ego .

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  • numbersnumbers
    Sep 11, 2014 - 6:13AM

    And of course IK has all the paperwork to prove his allegations! NOT!

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  • Zaida Parvez
    Sep 11, 2014 - 6:40AM

    Soon it will be one year. IK is only fit for dharnas and making charges without proof. Dropping names is not proof.

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  • concerned
    Sep 11, 2014 - 7:00AM

    We are with you all the way Imran.

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  • itl
    Sep 11, 2014 - 7:17AM

    @Maria: That’s all PMLN goons are good at, fighting politics with family life, personal issues e.t.c. PMLN is a party that keeps on looting the public yet the same people keep electing them. I really wonder what the IQ level is in Pakistan.

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  • malik
    Sep 11, 2014 - 8:27AM

    Imran should read Kerry-Lugar Bill again. Thanks to these provisions, the Army will never think of getting to power, nor will think of removing an elected PM.

    If somehow Imran comes to power, he will have to govern the country with US sanctions. The country will get to see civil war then .

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  • DR
    Sep 11, 2014 - 8:39AM

    @Maria: All they do in Parliament is debate and pass the time…Clock in and out..Pakistan is in the state it is because of the Status Quo and a change is needed which will not be given by present rulers

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  • DR
    Sep 11, 2014 - 8:41AM

    @ModiFied: I am supporting this movement so you are wrong there…let’s stick to the facts and you justify why we should keep the Status Quo based on where it has taken Pakistan

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  • DR
    Sep 11, 2014 - 8:45AM

    @Zaida Parvez: Dropping names is proof as before parties would make indirect accusations without offering the names…would never pass a certain point…the peoples eyes are now opened with who has done what

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  • DR
    Sep 11, 2014 - 8:49AM

    @Observing The New Pakistan: the shallow people are those who did nothing for present Pakistan except look after the most powerful at the expense of the poor…Look t the state of Pakistan and am sick and tired of hearing the same old excuses of blaming the Army or previous government….the rulers have bought the country to its present position because they cannot take the hard decisions of bringing the powerful to account.

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  • Youth of Pakistan
    Sep 11, 2014 - 9:37AM

    Shame on those who have made Bridges and Roads the standard of Development of a country

    Go and see the situation in Lyyah, Jhang, Bhakar, Pindi Bhattian, Hafizabad, Chiniot,Gujrat, Sailkot you name it. PMLN has rulled in punjab since 1985 every time the flood comes they wear long boots stand in water, kiss some god forsaken poor children, have a good quality photo shoot and then go back to there palaces.

    And wait for some more years and do the same routine next time again.

    This time Khan is here friends, get ready to face a real opposition, muk muka politics is over and buried.

    Your highness Mr. PM sb, get ready to face us.

    Thank you Imran for waking us up

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  • usman
    Sep 11, 2014 - 9:47AM

    Imran Khan Zindabad

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  • New Pakistan
    Sep 11, 2014 - 9:56AM

    @Youth of Pakistan: Well said brother

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  • KJ
    Sep 11, 2014 - 10:04AM

    I belive in PTI & its Idealogy since 2002-04 & supporting them till date. The best thing, is they are not convetioanl politicians with vested interetests.
    I support CHANGE & I support PTI all the way from Abu Dhabi.
    We may lose hope, but our leader will not. Belive in him & support him!

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  • Nauman
    Sep 11, 2014 - 10:11AM

    So what if Nawaz Sharif is corrupt, all we care about is that we got free laptops and motorway and metro bus, underpasses and flyover bridges (most of which were already pre-planned) . These developments are the essential need of the country drowning in floods and you are jealous that our Ganjas have achieved so much and all you could manage is a World cup and a hospital with free medical for poor and a university to increase access to education…..how does that help people??????more projects with ithehad steel pls

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  • Humza
    Sep 11, 2014 - 10:22AM

    @Youth of Pakistan: Why not go and try to score political points on a natural disaster in KPK while you are at it? We all know that Punjab is the best governed and managed province in Pakistan due to the measures of Shahbaz Sharif who takes a personal interest in the uplift of the province. The current federal government has been in power hardly a year and it seems that those greedy for power by any means will stoop to anything to justify mob rule and violent protests. A few thousand protesters can never deny the majority their voting rights. Until Pakistanis learn to respect the mandate of an elected government, the nation will never develop. Naya Pakistan with tired old political leaders around Imran Khan like Shaikh Rasheed and playing old style mob rule politics with foul language makes Purana Pakistan sound much better and civilized ! Shame on Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri’s followers for trying to take advantage of a flood situation.

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  • OK
    Sep 11, 2014 - 11:30AM

    @Humza:
    Actually what you should say is that “unless an elected government respects its citizens and treats them as equals, regardless of their religion or status within the country, this country will never develop.”

    People will always blame the army for our problems, the problem is actually “elected politicians” who never deliver or learn from their mistakes.

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  • SIlya
    Sep 11, 2014 - 11:30AM

    If only if resignation of PM would help our problems at macro level then PM should resign if the answer is no. then it does not make any sense to challenge an elected Prime Minister.. who ever is he… though i am strongly oppose the feudalistic culture of our country.. but this is not the solution that start sit-in in front of elected parliament…this is like to make fun of others democratic rights…..no developed country would allow this…. moreover reservation over electrol process may not be the based for resignation….there is a process for everyone if has reservation….though process is very long and lengthy but has to be followed….further Imran Khan is an elected member of the parliament…he is getting paid from parliament and he never returned his benefits…..he should raised every issue over there……and he get his reservations resolved over there too..

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  • Kashif Jahangiri
    Sep 11, 2014 - 11:48AM

    You may disagree with Imran Khan’s approach but noone can deny or object to what he demands for this nation. The Times Magazine once stated that had Imran Khan been a European atleast half of Europe’s news editors would have voted for him. Pakistanis are lucky to have him, we owe him huge respect.

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  • Ahsan
    Sep 11, 2014 - 11:52AM

    Imran Khan is indeed a sincere man. So he is the only hope for true democracy & progressive Pakistan… will success Inshallah.
    I request all Pakistani please listen and understand IK’s speeches, his pain for people of Pakistan. He wants to become us Pakistanis a NATION, that’s an important.
    People who are the beneficiaries of this current system (status quo) are continually misguiding innocent people .. reject them and please keep supporting IK/PTI.

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  • Sep 11, 2014 - 11:59AM

    I don’t like politics and really don’t involve in any political activity but I pray that May Allah Help Those who are sincere with my beloved country Pakistan.

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  • AAmir
    Sep 11, 2014 - 11:59AM

    With one million IDP’S and floods devastating the country shame on Imran and Qadri who still are at dharna. Both of them are not sincere to the this county and its people. If the had been sincere then they should have called off the dharna and starting help the IDP’s and the flood effected people.

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  • just a pakistani
    Sep 11, 2014 - 12:06PM

    i believe on what all you said, but just once think if elected PM is not good and if IM is supported US sanctions… its mean there is no one who can make Pakistan wealthy and idol country… we all support only one thing that we want a country where we and our childern grow in peace and with good future… and i think with a team of Shahbaz sharif and IM may be with or without PM Nawaz Sharif can make changes in pakistan… IM is very well educated so he should adopt educated way like discuss think in media and in parliment… stop attacking on charactors and start discuss policies of PML (N) and PTI that which one is better for the country… and also make there team not with old politicians but with new talents like he starts before 18 years… if need changes then please forget currupt politicians and yes PM Nawaz also need to be look into their policies and faimly politics… he is a good business man so he should look into country industries and make dames… one thing very clear no one is perfect and have to be a just true pakistani….

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  • Shahzad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 12:17PM

    @ModiFied: how can you vouch for others in the whole world? broaden your vision and you might see, that these jackals needs to removed

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  • Shahzad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 12:19PM

    @Maria: how did Nawaz manage to buy property abroad? just investigate and everything will come out. he paid Rs. 5000 tax and I used to pay Rs. 3000 tax. I should also have villas in UK if that is the case.

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  • Observer
    Sep 11, 2014 - 12:21PM

    Old Pakistan looks much more decent and civilized when I see the so called educated leaders and supporters of Naya Pakistsn !

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  • Wollstonecraft
    Sep 11, 2014 - 12:31PM

    I observe global politics and was hoping to see some media coverage of Imran Khan’s fiasco in Islamabad. Absolutely no coverage in Australia and or any other international press. Nothing!

    Someone should tell him to roll up his sleeves and try and do some work for a change. This sit-in debacle is not doing him or the country any favours.

    Learn to work, learn to work hard.

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  • Adeel
    Sep 11, 2014 - 12:49PM

    @ModiFied:
    I am supporting it.

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  • Alter Ego
    Sep 11, 2014 - 1:32PM

    Fortunately or Unfortunately the burden of proof lies with the accuser.
    You IK have none .
    If you have some proof then show it to the media .
    i am still waiting for the proof for

    35 puctures
    geo group
    ex CJP

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  • pervaiz
    Sep 11, 2014 - 1:43PM

    @Shahzad:
    Imran paid tax for 2012-13 as Rs. 108,000.00 showing his income total 2.00 million. Now can you explain how he is managing 300 kanal home at bani ghala and 6 kanal at zaman park where only electricity bill is Rs. 100,000.00 per month. He is driving builtproof motorcars worth of 6.00 millions……….. so please answer for this and get answer from Musharraf who investigated Nawaz Sharif for 8 years for wealth of Nawaz family in Pakistan and abroad.

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  • Akram
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:04PM

    Grand celebrations of a failed million march? Let us realistically recap and analyze what the IQ duo has achieved so far out of this exercise. The much talked about million tsunami march was a total failure as the number of marchers was surprisingly very low and it never exceeded few thousands mark. Then came the invasion of the red zone putting at risk the lives of their own workers and the security of the national nerve center. This invasion of the red zone sent shock waves across Pakistan and to the capitals of the world as it exposed our security agencies vulnerability. Next was the demand of resignation of the Prime Minister and dissolution of the assemblies followed by calls of nationwide civil disobedience. These demands discredited the present government legitimacy on national and international levels. Then he thought of crippling Pakistan financially and appealed to the overseas Pakistanis to stop sending remittances through legal means and withdraw their money from the national banks. This infantile behavior has discouraged foreign investors from coming to Pakistan. Then coincidentally the duo had a “mysterious brain wave” at the same time and without any warning stormed the parliament house, Prime Minister House and PTV Headquarters. They also attacked the policemen protecting the secretariat blocks that resulted into death of three innocent people with many other seriously injured. The next blow was the cancellation of the Chinese President crucial visit to Pakistan and now finally the world community has shown its great concern about the security of Pakistan Nuclear assets. So what they have achieved out of this march and sit-in that they must celebrate. Its nothing but to cover their failures and negativism. Now PTI stand divided and fractured as the PTI President exposed the design behind the march and sit-in. The MP’s from PTI have refused to tender resignation and IK seems helpless in front of them while he is still demanding resignation from the Prime Minister of Pakistan. I am not sure if they wanted to prove that Pakistan is a failed state but if it was their objective they have achieved it.

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  • Shahzad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:06PM

    @pervaiz: Where did you get your facts from? if they are authentic, get the facts about Nawaz also and share here.

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  • Sheeda
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:08PM

    Dear Nawaz Sharif supporters, PM should tell us how he and his family increased der assets in past years, They are answerable to us otherwise they have to answer in front of Allah on the Day of Judgement.Recommend

  • Shahzad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:09PM

    @Alter Ego: can you prove Altaf bhai has murdered people or ordered to do so? according to your logic, he also isn’t a murderer??

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  • pakistani
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:11PM

    @Observer: please grow up and wake up, what kind of peoples you are supporting for? those are involve in government since 1985 but do nothing for floods, electricity, education, government offices, but growing their own factories and mills and businesses in abroad.

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  • salman
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:12PM

    @ModiFied:
    I am supporting it. My parents are too. And my brother and sister. All my cousins around the world are as well. So is my wife. And her parents. And their brothers and sisters. And all my uncle and aunties. Lots of my friends are. A random guy I met last week when I went to get some naans from my local kebab restaurant was supporting it too. As was the owner of the restaurant. Friends of mine at work are supporting it too. A company we do business with in Karachi are supporting it too – their employees actually flew over last week to take part in it. My barber is also supporting it. As is the guy from who I buy vegetables. My neighbors are too.

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  • Shahzad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 2:49PM

    @Akram: your PM is coming to Parliament everyday, all the crooks are on their toes…even if IK goes without PM resignation, Pakistan is awake now, non-political people are now involved in political debates, they are asking questions, raising fingers on people who loot their hard earned money, you cant ask for over night results, there are no miracles, everything takes time, even the blood revolution takes time, this is the beginning of a new Pakistan, where people have the right to put their fists in a persons throat who plays them around. Look at the bigger picture and not the momentarily gains.

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  • pervaiz
    Sep 11, 2014 - 3:00PM

    @Shahzad:
    You declared Nawaz Sharif as decoit, so leave him as decoit will be always decoit and we should not waste our time for him. Instead, We should think about our so called honest leaders like Imran khan and get his income statement and paid tax which is Rs. 108,000.00 for the year 2012-13. I paid income tax Rs. 65,000.00 (deducted from salary only, Electricity / telephone bill tax is separate) for year 2012-13 which is more than half what paid Imran khan during this period. But I have a CUORE model 2006 and a house 250 Yards, but Imran khan has 300 kanals and builtproof motor car. Why this difference while he is declaring himself as the most honest person of the world.

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  • Ahsan
    Sep 11, 2014 - 3:08PM

    Well said Salman. Exactly the same with me. In fact all over all people supporting IK, except few GBs.

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  • Parvez
    Sep 11, 2014 - 3:23PM

    Wow !…Nawaz must be desperate.

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  • pervaiz
    Sep 11, 2014 - 3:47PM

    @salman:
    According to you everyone is supporting IK, if this right then DHARNA at islamabad should have 5.00 Million people minimum and at Lahore at least 1.00 million people. Yesterday we saw crowd at Islamabd and Lahore of 1500 and 150 respectively. Please donot exaggerate figures and make nation fool

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  • i2i
    Sep 11, 2014 - 3:56PM

    Ik is insisting that he is the most honest person on the face of the earth but ironically nobody seem interested in his self proclaimed honesty.

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  • Taseer Siddiqui
    Sep 11, 2014 - 4:03PM

    طارق ملک کو نکالنے کے بعد اب 10 سال کا عرصہ درکار ہے؟

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  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 11, 2014 - 4:08PM

    Never before and never after. Imran Khan has extended open invitation to all Pakistanis including his eternal foe PM Nawaz Sharif to join him to attend grand show of his festival (wrongly labeled as dharna) in D Chowk, Islamabad tomorrow on Saturday where many internationally known singers, dancers, clowns, magicians, jugglers, boxers, cricketers, footballers, wrestlers, beauticians, qawwals, painters, artists, bureaucrats and politicians, to name a few, will be in attendance. No admission fee and a chair will be provided free of cost. Special arena is earmarked for ladies but they are allowed to be in men arena as well if they wish. Complimentary busses will run from Presidency, Prime Minister House and Parliament House to the festival and back. Imran Khan himself will welcome the guests. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • JB
    Sep 11, 2014 - 4:44PM

    @Pervaiz
    Very nice approach ‘if he is a dacoit, leave him as a dacoit, we would prefer to live under a dacoit’. You have a problem with IK paying tax of Rs.108K. NS showed Rs.5K cash in hand in his WEALTH STATEMENT. Do you know what that means? That means basically he does not own anything! And have you even seen his income statement? Can you tell me what source of income there is? There is a difference between income tax and wealth statement. IK pays income tax on his INCOME (which comes from him being a Govt. employee). That means the tax he pays is out of his salary from being a NA member. The remaining stuff is to be submitted in a wealth statement which are only taxable when he gets revenue out of it. Tell me, when did you pay tax on your Cuore? You pay it when you buy it. You do not pay tax on your car every year do you? Please stop misleading people of part information and do your research before you start blaming others.

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  • freed
    Sep 11, 2014 - 4:48PM

    its fight between:
    Election vs selection
    nepotism vs merit system
    transparency in government and to curtail corruption vs status quo.
    govt for the people, by the people vs govt. for few rich elites purchased by the few elites.
    democracy vs oligarchy.
    monopoly vs free market system.
    freedom vs state sponsor terrorism.
    differences have never been so stark, Hope Pakistanis will choose to be on right side of the history because opportunity may never present itself again.

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  • Patri0t
    Sep 11, 2014 - 4:53PM

    You can’t have an intelligent conversation on politics with pmln supporters as they always believe what their leaders say and they don’t like to use their own brains. If their leaders think that IK is wasting his time then why don’t they leave him alone? If he is wrong then one day people will leave him anyway. Why are they worrying about IK so much??

    The PM is now regular in the parliament which wasn’t important to him for the last 1.5 years. He wasn’t ready to listen to the opposition nor he took IK and TUQ seriously. If IK’s demands were just accusations then why the government has agreed to most of them now?? Punjab Police killed several people in model town but neither the government nor the top court of this country moved an inch unless those people took law in their own hands for justice.

    Still, the priorities in the parliament are all wrong and every minister is busy in flattering the PM by accusing IK and his dog for all the problems in this country.

    Patwario..Get a life..

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  • sofee
    Sep 11, 2014 - 5:02PM

    with out a doubt, Imran khan and. Tahir-ul Qadri have overwhelming support with overseas Pakistanis because these people can see the differences between corrupt system and the system that work to better life for people. once eyes are opened, no amount of geotv/ptv propaganda can reverse its course. like it or not, this is growing trend that will seriously challenge the status quo of MUK-mukoo system filled with corruption and nepotism.

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  • Ozzy
    Sep 11, 2014 - 5:04PM

    Diesel,Diesel,Diesel,Diesel,Diesel Imran Khan is 100% percent right about you .You are nothing but an opportunist .

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  • Imran
    Sep 11, 2014 - 5:05PM

    Go Nawaz go! enough is enough, give someone else a chance, and step down.

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  • S Chaudhury
    Sep 11, 2014 - 5:27PM

    Every one knows how corrupt shariffs are. Yet some people have the nerve to support these thugs, killers & thieves.
    It makes you wonder if they fall in the same category

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  • salman
    Sep 11, 2014 - 5:34PM

    @pervaiz:
    There is a different between supporting and attending dharna. Majority of those I mentioned support IK stance, very few have actually been to dharna, and even fewer actually stay at dharna. The initial post was about supporting, not attending dharna. Hope that clarifies.

    It’s just a fact that most of the people I know and speak to support IK.

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  • Faisal
    Sep 11, 2014 - 5:35PM

    don’t we all know that it was a rigged election ! What system we they are talking about ..the one who’s foundation was laid over those faked votes ! ..No one has the courage to go for the recount ! Why are they hiding behind the ‘Stays’ ? One may term Imran as utterly stupid with the way he has gone about his protest, but aren’t these serious questions which needs to be answered !

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  • Shahzad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 5:51PM

    @JB: thanks mate. Sometimes its hard to explain. You did it well.

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  • Napier Mole
    Sep 11, 2014 - 6:56PM

    One has nothing but sympathy for the jilted supporters who have been shorn of their once strong belies in the principles of PTI, in the intelligence of Imran Khan, in the potential of KPK government all of which have been razed to ground. PTI needs an in house change if it is to sustain itself or openly annnounce itself as the IK-League with Gen Hamid Gul as its secretary general.

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  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 11, 2014 - 7:02PM

    Do nown taraf hay aag barabar lagi huwi (Equal fire on both sides)
    Fire as per its very intrinsic qualities and inborn nature has undisputedly never ever been a favorite of anyone whether the one is in the government or in opposition; male or female; minor or major whereas on the other hand it also does not distinguish between an elected government or for that matter a thruster government so the prudence demands that we must avoid fire all the time and under all circumstances in any case unless and unless we are too happily wishing to welcome and hug and kiss the fire. This principle is as much vogue in my beloved Pakistan as it is in the USA which is the most super power on the face of earth and for that matter even in Zimbabwe which is believed to be the poorest country. However, one way or the other, very much surprisingly in my beloved Pakistan both opposition namely Imran Khan and Dr Tahir Qadri and government have very much turned too hostile though earlier too they were not that friendly either.
    Political parties irrespective of their strength and standing have announced on Parliament floor that Nawaz is an elected Prime Minister so he will not quit till he completes his tenure whereas Imran + Qadri have pledged that they will not quit dharnas unless and until Nawaz leaves the office of Prime Minister. Both dharnas have completed one month stay in Islamabad and despite the fact that some of those who had come from Lahore with Imran and Qadri have gone back and new faces have joined but still both of them are sticking to their guns and do not want to accept any solution minus PM Nawaz resignation. Nawaz has sent so many teams to negotiate with Imran and Qadri to end dharnas but in vain simply because PM is not in a mood to leave the chair and IK + TQ want him to resign.
    Which gun will silence 1st is yet to be seen and come what may, one gun will eventually be silenced? Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / Mobile (00965) 66229897 / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.comRecommend

  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 11, 2014 - 7:59PM

    God forbid! Just now I heard in news that 400 policemen are being sent from Lahore to Islamabad to pounce on dharnas participants which completed one month stay and I not wish but pray that there should not be any clash between police and the agitators otherwise I am afraid human blood may spill over which must be avoided under all circumstances, aameen. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • SincerePakistani
    Sep 11, 2014 - 8:15PM

    I wonder why people keep saying elected pm, elected parliamentarians, elected government, etc. when EVERYONE (including the crooks sitting in parliament, who admitted and complained about it) know that elections were massively rigged. If anyone needs proof, just watch Pakistani media (any channel except the one(s) paid and/or run by crooks in government). Therefore, there is no ELECTED pm, parliamentarians (except VERY few honest ones), government, etc. They were all forced on poor people of Pakistan to achieve their own and Pakistan’s enemies agendas. Please wake up dear Pakistanis and think as a NATION!!! This chance may never be available again; at least for a very very very long time.

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  • Abdul K Hussain
    Sep 11, 2014 - 8:40PM

    @Maria:
    Dear Maria. “Pakistanis want to work and debate in parliament”? What Parliment? One consisting of people who stole the election? For 14 mos PTI asked for a recount in only 4 constituencies but the government was too arrogant. In a true democracy their concerns would have got a fair hearing. I’m not a PTI troll or and Imran fan, atleast not Imran the politician. But I do believe the system in Pakistan is corrupt and sick to the core. Full marks to anyone who tries to change.

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  • Arshad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 9:15PM

    Your PM is coming to Parliament everyday, all the crooks are on their toes…even if IK goes without PM resignation, Pakistan is awake now, non-political people are now involved in political debates, they are asking questions, raising fingers on people who loot their hard earned money, you cant ask for over night results, there are no miracles, everything takes time, even the blood revolution takes time, this is the beginning of a new Pakistan, where people have the right to put their fists in a persons throat who plays them around. Look at the bigger picture and not the momentarily gains.

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  • Saad
    Sep 11, 2014 - 9:58PM

    In the end it comes down to this — “ye awaam faisla kar behti hai” k jo bhi ho support ‘democracy’, call it flawed democracy, democracy run by crooks, cheats and fake degree holders. Baat ye hai k most citizens in PK are illiterate. I can buy them with 2 ‘waqt ki roti’. nawaz and showbaz have already bought some youth through laptops and they’re buying our poor innocent awaam (most of them live in Punjab by the way) through giving them ‘bijli’ through ‘chori’, ‘roti’ through Gulu Butts and this ‘chor chakari’ list goes on and on. The thing is as much as I supported IK I have come to realize why support his cause, the nation doesn’t wana change, the nation is happy with how things are at the moment – they will come protest by blocking a few roads when loadshedding climbs up over 15 hours and then they go back when wapda reminds them ‘oh bhai bill aap log dehtey nahi, hum aap se maangte nai” jao ghar jao garmi k mazay kar lo bhai, 1 maa tou bacha hai garmi chali jaye gi, winters come same drama from Sui gas. The thing is …in a nutshell whatever you do there will be this vast majority who has been ‘bought’. honest people cannot buy them or their ‘brain-washed’ idealogy. Accept where we are at and let’s move on. Change, unfortunately I don’t see in Pakistan’s future as heartbreaking this is writing this but thats the sad reality. Some nations are built so that the other bigger nations can prey off of them (why is most of africa still living as if they are in dark ages) even our N-Asset is just a drama jab time ahye ga to use it, it won’t work cuz bijli nai ho gi!. That’s what PK unfortunately is like a worm that feeds the birds every morning a creation of the dirt that lies happily in the dirt…..As much as I am a patriotic Pakistani and I hate to say all this but that’s a sad reality and the sooner we come to terms with it we can all go and do our chores …’unchanged’ from 1947!

    Good luck and Pakistan Zindabad!
    (Hoping ET publishes this)

    Saad

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  • Shahid
    Sep 11, 2014 - 10:07PM

    @Maria: Democracy in pakistan means giving people limited choice to select thier representatives. Period. Democracy ends there in pakistan, rest does not exists.

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  • Alter Ego
    Sep 11, 2014 - 10:16PM

    @Shahzad:
    IK is always quoting America and Britan.
    He should know how the British and American Justice System work.

    YOU CAN NOT ARREST , BLAME , PUNISH SOMEONE WITHOUT PROOF.
    THE BURDEN OF THE PROOF LIES WITH THE ACCUSER , THAT IS WHY WE HAVE COURTS.
    EVERYONE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

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  • sterry
    Sep 11, 2014 - 10:40PM

    @sofee: I would say most overseas Pakistanis support the government and the system – We don’t support violent protesters who make a joke of the country and its image overseas. Pakistan is one of the few Muslim democracies but IK has succeeded in making Pakistan look like another unstable Arab country which we are not! People like me used to support IK but now we see how confused he is. We know that an imperfect system is better than no system. The way to improve a nation is to work within in, not scream with sticks and attack policemen or break government buildings. We know here in North America that such behavior would be dealt with firmly by police and security people. I have seen that despite differences here in the West among political groups, people don’t behave hysterically like TUQ and IK. The problem with Pakistanis is that they are too emotional and want things overnight without working. It’s easy to dance at a late night Dharna but it’s hard to work for civil society groups that strengthen institutions.

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  • ivehadit
    Sep 11, 2014 - 10:57PM

    IK may be the right guy, but throwing out the baby with the bathwater is not the way to go. He needs to do what he is doing now, forget about the 3rd Umpire, use his leader of the opposition role to highlight corruption and keep himself as the alternative. If he can change public opinion around the country (not just northern punjab) there may be pressure on the PM in Parliament to look for alternative leadership (highly unlikely – PMs confidence is high, he is going to the UN GA meeting to New York). But with the huge majority PML-N has, there is little chance of an election for another 4 years. Get on with it.

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  • i2i
    Sep 12, 2014 - 12:09AM

    @Shahzad:
    We don’t need revolutions or miracles what we need is common sense.

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  • Zaki
    Sep 12, 2014 - 12:15AM

    What are you talking about? Forget about Naya Pakistan and/or PTI. Just see what is happening in the country, what our leaders are doing to common man. I am not asking to favor IK or TUQ, but you should condemn NS and this government and there are several reasons for doing so – you can just ask yourself. Just criticizing IK/TUQ because they have blocked the roads is not good. I know people are suffering but thats is what ppl are doing since long. We are born to suffer. I dont know whether my point make sense to you but atleast I am with IK/TUQ because they are against the system and everyone knows that this system is not clean at all. If you just ask these kind of questions to yourself then you might also start supporting them…. believe me @Observing The New Pakistan:

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  • Zaki
    Sep 12, 2014 - 12:18AM

    All NS supporters! please do not support IK/TUQ. But please be realistic and be logical and be a Pakistani…. how can you support Sharif brothers – i can just laugh

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  • i2i
    Sep 12, 2014 - 12:32AM

    After BBC a leading national English news paper has also exposed how the laborers of the twin cities are making easy money by attending the PAT-PIT sit-in. The laborers, private security guards, jobless and poor people and even drug addicts are being “recruited” and paid Rs. 400-500 per day on surrendering their CNIC to the office bearers of the dharnas. The cards are returned to the hired attendants after the speeches are over later in the night. And yes two times meal is also part of the deal.

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  • Aamir
    Sep 12, 2014 - 12:57AM

    ModiFied: I am.

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  • roarwali
    Sep 12, 2014 - 1:55AM

    One month of Dharna has exposed the corrupt mafia badly. Well done IK

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  • Shah
    Sep 12, 2014 - 2:15AM

    Lol…After reading the comments, i believe PML-N media wing is quite proactive these days :-) btw am not with IK but definitely paid touts of PML reflect in their comments :) Loosers

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  • Alter Ego
    Sep 12, 2014 - 4:21AM

    IK , i am sure that rigging was done in Karachi as well , why dont you go there.
    Lets see how warm a welcome they give you.

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  • Alter Ego
    Sep 12, 2014 - 4:27AM

    IK , i too know

    who killed Kennedy
    what happened to Hitler
    what happened to Princess Diana
    the true story about Zia Plane Crash.

    Unfortunately i will not be able to bring any proof.
    Just Like You.

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  • eyeopener
    Sep 12, 2014 - 4:41AM

    For all those idiots who say that people can go to the front of White house, just watch what happened today when one single person (with no Dunda) climbed over the fence of the WH. He was immediately slammed to the ground and police pulled up assault weapons on him. He was arrested after that and was not allowed to go free as the pakistani military did at the PTV, even after knowing that they had destroyed property there.

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  • Humza
    Sep 12, 2014 - 6:06AM

    @Zaki: It is precisely because we are being “reasonable, logical and Pakistani” that we support the elected government. In civilized societies, people fight tooth and nail in an election campaign and then put aside their differences to work for the betterment of the nation after elections are over – not just dwell on personality clashes. I can only laugh at people like you who cannot see beyond personalities like Imran Khan or Nawaz Sharif. Do you not see that the bigger picture is the system and allowing a democratic set up to mature in a nation that has seen military dictatorships for most of its existence. Blaming the current government which has been in power hardly a year for all of the challenges facing the country is dishonest. When Western observers rate the elections largely free and fair despite minor rigging that goes on in all 3 rd World countries, why do Imran Khan ignore them. Did BBC also make up stories of paid protesters too? Now will you see BBC journalistic integrity is below that of Pak TV?

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  • Ahmed
    Sep 12, 2014 - 7:14AM

    @DR: What you are saying is not true. Pakistan has had a most productive parliaments (in terms of legislation and even constitutional amendments passed) ever since 2008. It is Imran Khan an his failure to deliver even reasonable progress in kpk, let alone the far-fetched promises of “ending corruption in 90 days” the he made, who has proved impotent as a political leader.

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  • Dejavu77
    Sep 12, 2014 - 7:38AM

    In real democracy, there are impatial institutions which supervise irregularities and investigations and assist judiciry to probe into mega scandals and govt. take it as their moral obligation to public such investigations, come out clean and prove its innocence.

    Unfortunately NAB is politicized so much that it cannot function independently and none of the govt. in the past took interest to liberate it because of their own wested interest.

    Sadly judiciary itself has been baised and politically inclined. For MUQ attack, Gullu Butt was given bail as video evidence was not considered “substantial” while for PTV attack case, govt is digging out the profiles of the attackers from cctv footage using NADRA records

    Parliament has failed to lived up to its expectations. All they have done is hooted and desk thumping. It seems that they gather around for the PMs appraisal

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  • faisal
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:05AM

    @Maria:
    Very well said maria, IMRAN should go home and grow up!

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  • Anon
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:39AM

    @Youth of Pakistan: And what has he done in KPK to make us believe he is the answer or the solution to our problems?

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  • Anon
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:44AM

    @salman:
    And all these people you have mentioned account for how much of the population of Pakistam?

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  • Anon
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:46AM

    @pervaiz:
    “Most honest person in the world” now where did you get that from?

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  • Surprised
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:50AM

    @Iqbal Hadi Zaidi:
    ” I heard in news that 400 policemen are being sent from Lahore ” Where do you get such information from? Are you coordinated with the leaders of the sit-ins, who do get info from IB as claimed by IK?
    “…I am afraid human blood may spill over which must be avoided under all circumstances, aameen.” I fully agree but if you are coordinating with the people and their sit-in leaders, why don’t you advise them to quit while they are ahead?
    Why should mobs be allowed to uproot a Constitutional government? If that precedent is set, tomorrow there could be a couple of hundred thousand that could assemble that would again bring down the next govt. Even the people of madaris could be emboldened. So desist and advise sanity.
    Stress change through institutions, especially through the judicial system, which is independent but agitation has been done enough, at least, for now. So advise taking a break, will you?

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  • FR
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:58AM

    Well said IK, Pakistanis are not equal citizens. Pakistani awam are sitting in strom, rain, scorching heat day or night, and their leader is sleeping in one and a half karor airconditioned luxurious container and only comes out for 15-20 minutes to address. Well said equal citizens are y and your sons are not citizen of Pakistan? Come out and live like your paid listener(awam).

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  • H chaudhry
    Sep 12, 2014 - 10:03AM

    @shah so I guess you have exact intelligence on the people talking in favor of PMLN or against PTI are paid? I take the disease of just imagining something has gotten to you?

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  • True Eye Opener
    Sep 12, 2014 - 10:11AM

    @eyeopener:
    For an idiot who saw one man climbing WH fence, how did u fail to notice how the protestors in Ferguson were handled as compared to Model Town? Big fail!

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  • ja
    Sep 12, 2014 - 10:17AM

    Whatever happen one thing is for sure our country is finally on right track because of this. credit goes to IK.

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  • ahmer
    Sep 12, 2014 - 11:24AM

    wow…now he is a private eye…….. what a joker

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  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 12, 2014 - 11:31AM

    Go Nawaz Go was shouted right before PM Nawaz which I saw myself yesterday evening at ARY television when he was in Azad Kashmir to show his sympathies towards the flood effected people. It was really very shocking to see that PM Nawaz tried his best to cool the down but Go Nawaz Go was so aloud that PM Nawaz simply could not do anything except swallow the bitter quinine pill. News caster did say that Go Imran Go was also shouted by the same crowd but which negates Imran to some extent but yet the two simply can neither be equated nor compared in any case because Nawaz is very much on the throne and people did dare right before his eyes to shout Go Nawaz Go. I wonder none has picked it up and commented here unless I have missed it. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • Sanam
    Sep 12, 2014 - 1:00PM

    Khan sb, how long will you rely on hearsay and gossips of your colleagues? As a national level leader you should come with a solid proof when you speak against someone otherwise it will be a sort of shame for you if you can’t prove it.

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  • AN
    Sep 12, 2014 - 1:40PM

    Also name the culprits who were involved in killing of PTI’s senior most leader Zahra Shahid Hussain in Karachi in May 2013.

    What legal steps taken by PTI and what is the current status.
    I believe IK is afraid of taking legal action in Karachi. Pathetic!

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  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 12, 2014 - 2:18PM

    Who else staged dharna for one month other than Imran + Qadri? Many political leaders right from inception of Pakistan have conducted protests, led processions and staged dharnas etc but not a single one can boast of so successful dharna like what being staged in Islamabad at D Chowk. Who opposes me or who supports me? Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • Dejavu77
    Sep 12, 2014 - 2:52PM

    What single step govt. has taken in past 14 months to ensure that no irregularities, as alleged, resurface when people go out to vote in next election. Instead it disfunctioned the chairman of NADRA who had a key role in bringing out the real truth out of this fiasco. Govt. instead acted like a driver insane who hits every thing but the road. Every Pakistanis must understand the power of his/her vote. How viable a system can be where for opening a 50 rupee mobile connection you are required to have biometric verification but it not worthy of an option for verification of votes.

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  • salman
    Sep 12, 2014 - 2:53PM

    @Anon:
    I have no idea what %. But I am not trying to say x or y % of people in pak support IK. All I’m saying is that I know a lot of people who do, and most of the people I speak to support IK. Someone else can speak to a whole different set of people and claim the opposite. But to say that “nobody” supports IK is not the truth. Likewise to say “everyone” supports IK would also not be the truth.

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  • LHR
    Sep 12, 2014 - 4:18PM

    IK is so unfortunate…….approx 30 days and still not able to get any “lashain”…….Comon PTI youth please volunteer??? so IK can get some “political support-o-sympathy” and bring the soonami you all want so much!!

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  • salman
    Sep 12, 2014 - 4:39PM

    @Iqbal Hadi Zaidi:
    Yes, I saw that too. Some pmln reps tried to say later that people were shouting Go Imran Go, but shouts of go Nawaz go are quite clear. There were some shouts of go Imran go, started after pmln handlers realized that some people were shouting go Nawaz go.

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  • Nadir
    Sep 12, 2014 - 4:45PM

    Every time IK makes another “in x days I will reveal abc and it will blow your mind”, I chuckle, because of how tabloid it all sounds, and then pity him for reaching an all time low of how pathetic he can get. Well he continues. And to think a few years ago I used to support IK. I remember his “i am going to London to file cases against Altaf Hussain”, and then he kept delaying. and prolonging. And i still thought he was just under threat or something and couldnt do it. Now i realize this is him trying to be over smart, because he thinks he’s studied at oxford and lived abroad he is smarter than everyone else. sadly his thinly veiled attempts at attention grabbing are too transparent. He’s become the boy who cried wolf. When people have something to show or say, they do it, they don’t set appointments to do it.

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  • pervaiz
    Sep 12, 2014 - 5:23PM

    And what about murder of Zuhra Shahid in Karachi. Do you know who killed him??

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  • Qamber
    Sep 12, 2014 - 5:47PM

    Another actor comes to unmask of this hypocrisy …

    Come on Captain we are with you…..

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  • Haroon
    Sep 12, 2014 - 7:27PM

    @Maria:
    Of course if the parliment is legtimate all issues must be discussed there.Recommend

  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 12, 2014 - 8:24PM

    Rung main bhang! Tomorrow Saturday 13th September, 2014 there had been very live festivities including dances and songs at Imran dharna but unfortunately yesterday night police has arrested DJ Butt, Chief Musical Organizer which is very much regretted who must be released today facilitating him to excite, or more correctly, ignite dharna people tomorrow when Imran Khan wants to commemorate successful completion of one month dharna in Islamabad. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • Afrooz
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:16PM

    with out a doubt, Imran khan and. Tahir-ul Qadri have overwhelming support with overseas Pakistanis because these people can see the differences between corrupt system and the system that work to better life for people

    @sofee: With all due respect, please come to Pakistan … sit in this “dharna” and show us your support. It is easy to watch this drama on TV sitting in your air conditioned living room and talk philosophy. The people here in Islamabad is tired of this daily drama. Our beautiful city has become shabby and people are genuinely suffering all for fueling the egos of these 2 so-called revolutionaries.

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  • Has main Shah
    Sep 12, 2014 - 9:23PM

    This is pity that our young generation is busy fighting to prove that their leaders are the best, sinless and gave no flaws. They forget that no matter who is the leader, they use their supporters to build strong motions against opponents. If our youngsters concentrate on few things they can find out who is who. Unfortunately, it seems our Young’s don’t want to struggle to find out the truth. Pakistanies that have seen the independence movement or even the political situation of 1977 know the importance of our democratic system. Our current system is not a result of few years of participation of political activities. It is based on years of learning starting from 1857. In fact, age of Pakistani Democracy is just six and half year, still we have a long way to go. Besides, there are lots of question that arise in mind about PTI leadership, senior citizens are seriously thinking that can we trust this mob and handover our countries future in the hands that are aggressive, violent and struben and want to go agaunst the constitution?

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  • Saad
    Sep 12, 2014 - 10:09PM

    “Musharraf’s dictatorship was better than Nawaz Sharif’s democracy,” says Imran Khan.

    It took Imran Khan 7 years to get this in his head.

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  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 12, 2014 - 10:36PM

    GO NAWAZ GO is repeated today again in Sargodha when PM Nawaz Sharif wanted to address flood effected people in Sargodha which is not only most regrettable but pinching too simply because after all Nawaz is none but Prime Minister of Pakistan and he was addressing not foreigners but his own compatriots. How do you view this new development where flood victims shout Go Nawaz Go? Simple common sense demands that the uprooted persons should have asked PM for help but instead they preferred to hoot PM Nawaz right before his own eyes. Just yesterday Go Nawaz Go was shouted in Azad Kashmir and the same is repeated today in Sargodha gives clue to the fact that popularity of PM Nawaz is on decline. Are you with me or against me? Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • Ahmad
    Sep 12, 2014 - 11:24PM

    “The worst democracy is still better than the dictatorship”– Anonymous

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  • buzzer
    Sep 12, 2014 - 11:49PM

    @Afrooz:
    How nice of you to worry about your “once beautiful city” and conveniently ignore the rigged elections, the 14 model town murders, the down trodden economy, all thanks to NS govt.

    How about you learn how to think beyond your own nose every once in a while.

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  • Rawalpindi Kid
    Sep 13, 2014 - 12:26AM

    @Maria:
    Typical PMLN supporter, can’t make an argument based on merit so you propose talking about Jemima and TUQs children. None of them hold any political office, unlike your PM whose nepotism has filled his government with family members. But you don’t understand that distinction because you are used to nepotism in your party. What’s next? You’ll blame IK’s dog … oh wait, your minister of Railways has already raised it in the Parliament – talk about lack of substance! This is exactly why we need a change, because this is a struggle for new thinking. You guys want to talk personal matters and we are making a case purely on matters that relate to the state. BTW this parliament is a useless debating club if the ministers are going to talk about IK’s dog. Tell us one concrete step the parliament has taken to help Pakistani public. TUQ is right, we need to change this corrupt system.

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  • Grace
    Sep 13, 2014 - 12:30AM

    @Saad: The fact that Imran Khan is praising the dictatorship of Musharraf which gave Pakistan all of the current problems shows that PTI has lost it. Are you democratic or do you support military rule IK? No electricity was added in 10 years Musharraf rule but only violence and terrorism but you say 10 years of that is good? No wonder you want violent protests and don’t believe in parliament. You are exposing yourself PTI supporters! You want Pakistan to be like Syria, Iraq, Egypt or Libya where there is military rule and chaos.

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  • Agenda Driven
    Sep 13, 2014 - 12:53AM

    Please take note that you are publishing agenda driven comments against your comments policy. Do I have to point those out?

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  • Surprised
    Sep 13, 2014 - 2:41AM

    @Iqbal Hadi Zaidi:
    You have been regularly posting agenda driven comments. I wonder why ET is publishing your posts without fail?

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  • Peter
    Sep 13, 2014 - 2:57AM

    @Wollstonecraft:
    Read NY Times Op-eds on Pakistan opposition leaders, also and very importantly the Wall Street Journal, reporting on “soft Coup” in Islamabad. These appeared last week.
    You should be able check them up in your local library.
    Good Luck!

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  • Baba sahib
    Sep 13, 2014 - 3:20AM

    @Maria: you are low for bringing personal family matters like you know anything? If Imran khans fault is making claims without evidence then Nawaz should be in jai for that is all he has done. The person who needs to grow up Maria is YOU! Capeesh!

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  • Midas
    Sep 13, 2014 - 3:47AM

    Now everyone is remembering or comparing with the Mush era. Khan sahib you missed that boat, if you had taken the PM offer then, you could have made a huge difference in people’s lives, corruption would have been eradicated, people of rest of Pakistan would be living in paradise of the KP level. Now you will stay on the ‘sarak’ for a long time.

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  • Karachi 3
    Sep 13, 2014 - 6:30AM

    No wonder you supported Musharaf in referendum
    PTI and it’s leader Imran Khan has lost it……I have lost total respect for Imran Khan after hearing his abusive language.

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  • Faisal
    Sep 13, 2014 - 9:21AM

    The real face of Imran Khan AKA Thumka Khan starting to expose now
    “Musharraf’s dictatorship was better than Nawaz Sharif’s democracy”

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  • ozz
    Sep 13, 2014 - 11:04AM

    Democracy without ‘justice’ means what and supports whom…..

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  • ozz
    Sep 13, 2014 - 11:23AM

    people in pakistan have been brought up with this indoctrination that if the rich and influential rigg elections steel national money it is fine and should be accepted as such.

    For all the educated people my appeal is to read

    Constitution of pakistan (All the politicians talk about it but probably they have not read it)

    Vision of Qaid About Pakistan

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  • Aschraful Makhlooq
    Sep 13, 2014 - 11:34AM

    After seeing PPP’s and PML-N’s the most worst ever regimes now the nation will remember the Musharraf’s regime because in reality Musharraf’s regime was much the best and prosperous for Pakistan and Pakistani people much more than PPP’s and PML’s regimes except few regrettable and saddened events.At last heart’s feelings of Imran Khan described by tongue…

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  • Salman
    Sep 13, 2014 - 12:32PM

    Democracy without merit and justice supports whom…

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  • Sep 13, 2014 - 12:42PM

    Imran is 99% correct i think so .

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  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 13, 2014 - 1:21PM

    Thank you police not charging DJ Butt as terrorist but violator of Sec 144. I had been extra grateful if he had not been arrested at all or alternatively had been arrested late tonight after he had ignited dharna people today when dharna turns one month old. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • turbo
    Sep 13, 2014 - 1:29PM

    what about Zardari’s government o great IK?

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  • ozz
    Sep 13, 2014 - 1:32PM

    Imran and Qadri are yet to be put to test but the so called politicians and representative of people are definitely on the wrong side.

    Attack on supreme court 97 (If anyone does that in a true democratic country his carrier is gone for life)
    Qarz Autaro Mulk Savaro
    Dollar account seize in 98 (Politicians took out their dollars at 11th hour while usurping
    the dollar account of rest of nation)

    Indeed Pakistanis have short memories……………………..

    We as loyal Pakistanis should supports justice irrespective of political parties. If we do not support justice then we
    are ourself corrupt and needs soul searching………..

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  • ozz
    Sep 13, 2014 - 1:34PM

    People asked Winston Churchill in Second World War

    “Will we win the war”?

    Churchill replied

    “If there is justice in the courts we will win the war”

    Is there any justice for a comman man in Pakistan?

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  • Zaka
    Sep 13, 2014 - 1:37PM

    Musharraf rule was the best Pakistan ever had.

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  • Alter Ego
    Sep 13, 2014 - 2:20PM

    @salman:
    The people you mentioned are not nearly enough to win a seat in PA.
    Let alone topple a govt.
    100,000 —150,000 people are in a halqa.
    Do some math.

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  • Alter Ego
    Sep 13, 2014 - 2:26PM

    @salman:
    @Afrooz:
    Most of the people you will speak to in Sindh will support PPP.
    Same is the case in Balochistan about their tribal leaders.
    That does not mean that PPP and Tribal leaders are the most popular in the country.
    Grow Up and talk with some logic.

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  • oBSERVER
    Sep 13, 2014 - 3:20PM

    Nawaz Sharif and his courtiers are trying their best to create a law and disorder situation. They are provoking Army to become political deads (not Shaheeds because it is a sacred word and they don’t deserve it) for sake of sham democracy. There are Human Rights violations but Courts are quiet? They(Supreme Court) don’t expect that PTI being a dignified Party would attack it like it was attacked by Nawaz Sharif and his goons sometime back, a black spot on our history. Nawaz is now using different tactics to tame Judiciary. He knows only one way and we are all familiar with that.

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  • Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
    Sep 13, 2014 - 3:28PM

    Thanks for appreciating my Bhaijan (he is born Aug 43, Im Dec43 + we both are Urdu speaking) Gen Pervez Musharraf, former President of Pakistan and I do not want to indulge in new controversy but the fact remains that except few mistakes his rule was one of the best and we would have progressed in reality and not in papers but the opportunists never wished him to continue so he had to quit. Now he is paying back through his nose to raise the slogan Pakistan First. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • Proud Pakistani
    Sep 13, 2014 - 3:31PM

    Gullo Butt of PTI arrested… hahahaha

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  • salman
    Sep 13, 2014 - 4:20PM

    @Alter Ego:
    Er…I never said they were. You are missing my point. I simply said most of the people who I speak to support IK. Its not possible for me to speak to all 300000 people in my halqa. I speak to people I come in contact with…family, friends, work colleagues, shop staff, etc. And most of them support IK. Why does this fact annoy pmln supporters so much?

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  • ozz
    Sep 13, 2014 - 5:21PM

    IK is right or wrong is another thing. Having justice for all in Pakistan is something which cannot be denied
    by anyone. The present system is devoid of justice.

    Law of Conflict of Interest needs to be enacted. Nawaz Sharif cannot run his business while he and his
    family are in power. This is ‘Conflict of Interest’. This is an internationally recognized law.

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  • Fatima
    Sep 13, 2014 - 6:37PM

    Ch Nisar how about talking about the PML-N MNA’s sons who gang raped a girl in Punjab instead… Please stop with your lies we are sick of Pakistani style democracy we all know what this democratic setup achieved in the last government of five years stop describing the Pakistani parliament as if it’s a holy place…. all you PPP PML parliamentarians sell your souls for small gains

    To PTI/ PAT… I appreciate your efforts but please stop wasting your efforts on a nation of fools this nation seems to be happy with regimes that have Corruption, Bribery, VVIP Protocols (that even don’t allow public ambulances to pass), Load shedding, injustice, theft, etc…

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  • Naeem Khan
    Sep 13, 2014 - 6:52PM

    One should ask this guy Nisar if he has given orders to arrest those who has caused that massacre in Model Town Lahore, OH, their thug Gulu is on bail as I understand it. PML-N has and is prone to violence when they don’t get their way. Any one recalls how their thugs, some of them were MNAs and MPA stormed the Supreme Court of Pakistan where the justices had to take refuge to save their lives. These are the same people and the same party which has inflected murderous violence on unarmed political activists in Lahore and Islamabad. I don’t support any political or religious parties in Pakistan but when I see thugs and thieves , I see thugs and thieves who are prevalent in the NA and are supporting themselves and the corrupt government in Islamabad. Time has changed and change will be coming to Pakistan and these people who has drained the treasury to buy the properties and stash ill gotten money abroad has to answer to the nation soon. They can’t perpetuate their nefarious designs on the nation for too long with the collaborations of Saudi Arabia and US.

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  • salman
    Sep 13, 2014 - 6:54PM

    @Alter Ego:
    Again, I never said IK was the most popular leader. You’re just assuming things :)

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  • Ahmad
    Sep 13, 2014 - 8:07PM

    Please put all troublemakers in jail..

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  • zafar
    Sep 13, 2014 - 9:58PM

    IK is fully democratic ,with attacking parliament ,tv station this is called terrorist democracy if police take action against these unlawful act this is called undemocratic . All other institutions and politicians are corrupt and working against ik only IK is gift of God for Pakistan .This reflect some mental illness and psychological disorder in which patient thinks all universe is against him and all other are bad only I am right !

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  • WB
    Sep 14, 2014 - 1:21AM

    @Humza: Why go to KPK, just come to Lahore and see the kind of devastation 3 days of rain can bring to this city ruled by the Sharif clan since 1985! Yes there is a metro bus but no medicine in the govt hospitals, no justice in police stations and no clean drinking water in over 80% of the city..

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  • Afzal Khan Marwat
    Sep 14, 2014 - 1:22AM

    @Maria:
    Imran Khan can also talk about Marium Nawaz and Captain Safdar, i hope you know the story, or he can also talk about Tahira Syed, your views please???

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  • WB
    Sep 14, 2014 - 1:31AM

    @pervaiz: lol, wah, wah! So we should just the leave the dacoit in the PM’s chair?? What reasoning you have, remember the dacoit is ruling over us he is not sitting in his house in model town minding his own business.

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  • IOBAL HADI ZAIDI
    Sep 14, 2014 - 1:58AM

    Which IG will win? IG Police Islamabad is very much holding the fort but still IG Police Punjab has also been called from Lahore to crack down on dharnas people and police has already arrested hundreds of people irrespective of the fact whether the person is a supporter of Imran or Qadri or not. I have myself seen footage on television channels showing PTI women loaded in prison which perhaps drove away to infamous Adiala jail. I have also read the news that police is very heavily picketed near dharnas and on all roads of Islamabad whereby all those who return to their homes after listening Imran Khan have been arrested. Now I will go to bed and wish that in morning when I wake up there should not be any news about blood spilling which will be of none but of Pakistanis and therefore Pakistani police should not attack their own compatriots. Which IG is in command?? Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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  • H Chaudhry
    Sep 14, 2014 - 3:45AM

    @WB what a nonesense. Which Dacoit? We yes WE and there are many many of us that oted him in and we will protect this vote if needed. Wait for 2018 or go to Court and PROVE he is decoit.

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