True, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) condemned the murder. But this was an ideal opportunity for Prime Minister Modi to assure the Muslims, feeling insecure, that his government would see to it that the perpetrators were brought to book quickly. Even when specifically requested for a word of sympathy for the victim’s families, Modi kept quiet.
This attitude should not come as a surprise. As the Gujarat chief minister in 2002, when hundreds of Muslims were killed with the complicity of the administration, including the police, he never expressed regret. In fact, Modi threw at the face of criticism a clean chit he got from a magistrate court. Till today, he has not said sorry. His regret at the murder in Pune would have gone a long way to assuage the feelings of Muslims and strengthen the idea of India based on the concept of pluralism.
In fact, when Narendra Modi broke down during the election campaign while hailing the pro-Hindu BJP outfit as his mother, I thought it was an emotional outburst. And I felt assured when he said after becoming India’s prime minister that he would take along with him, all the 1.25 billion Indians on the path to development.
But as the party unfolds its programme, I find that its pronouncements are only a camouflage for its divisive approach that the RSS formulates. Modi projects an image of unbiased person while the BJP-cum-RSS takes steps to dilute pluralism. The RSS is already posting its trusted men as members of different commissions or at key positions. The youth from the cadres are being recruited for lower assignments. Since bureaucracy tilts to the direction in which the wind blows, the BJP and RSS are finding no resistance in implementing their agenda.
In any case, the RSS should not play politics when it claims to be a cultural organisation. I am reminded of the ban imposed on it on January 30, 1948, after Nathu Ram Godse, an RSS man, assassinated Mahatma Gandhi. Then, in 1949, negotiations in response to the appeals from the RSS to lift the ban led to an agreement between then home minister Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel and the RSS, in which the latter gave an undertaking that “RSS will not engage in political activity” and that “RSS will engage only in cultural activities”.
But then Patel, not satisfied with the RSS undertaking, demanded that it incorporate the promise not to engage in political activities in their (Sangh’s) constitution, to seal the agreement and to freeze RSS permanently from political activities. That was in 1949 and subsequent to that the government lifted the ban on the organisation. However, in a shocking betrayal, the RSS, led by its sarsanghchalak chief, Mohan Bhagwat, indulged in aggressive political activity from June 2013 in efforts to foist Modi, formerly a RSS pracharak, in the post of prime minister of India. The result is before you.
Still the Muslim community should feel assured that it has nothing to fear because India follows the Constitution, which guarantees to every citizen equality before the law. There are courts, the media and liberal voices which are on the side of the Muslims if the community becomes a target. This was seen when the Babri Masjid was demolished and the Gujarat anti-Muslim riots took place.
Those who have asked for Article 370 (which gives special status to the state of Jammu and Kashmir) to be reviewed are the same elements, which are mostly anti-Muslim. Article 370 is as old as the Constitution, more than 65 years. But since Jammu and Kashmir is a Muslim-majority state, they have found the atmosphere during the Modi regime conducive to challenge the state’s status. They do not know the history; nor are they interested in finding out the facts.
When the British paramountcy lapsed in August 1947, the choice before roughly 560 princely states was either to integrate with India or go with the newly- constituted Pakistan, taking into consideration the religion of the majority of subjects. The ruler could stay independent if he so desired.
Jammu and Kashmir’s ruler, Maharaja Hari Singh, belatedly joined the Indian union even though the state’s majority population was Muslims. My reading is that Kashmir would have gone to Pakistan if it had been patient. But it first sent tribals and then the regular forces to annex the state. The maharaja signed the instrument of accession in favour of India to get its forces to stop the murders. He transferred only three subjects — defence, foreign affairs and communications — to India.
The state retained other subjects. Article 310 is the codification of that understanding. If the union of India wants more subjects, it is for Jammu and Kashmir to decide because it joined the union on that condition. The union cannot have more subjects without the state’s consent. Therefore, the RSS, which has propelled the demand for the abrogation of Article 370, is acting illegally.
In fact, things have now come to such a pass that the settlement has to have consent of three parties—India, Pakistan and the people of Jammu and Kashmir. If a referendum were to be held today, the valley of Kashmir would vote for an independent state. Jammu with the majority of Hindus would like to integrate with India and Ladakh, with Buddhist majority, would want to have the status of a union territory directly under New Delhi. All these considerations have made the problem intractable. Making the borders irrelevant, which at one time was being considered as a solution, is the only way out.
Published in The Express Tribune, June 16th, 2014.
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pls get out of anit-Modi syndrome for sometime... country has chosen this man to lead india... give him some time before jumping to any conclusion on saffron terror.... and pls leave 2002 gujarat riot behind now...
@Gp65: My response to you with more instances was guillotined. Some other time! Thank you for the discussion.
@Anon: So, if he didn't say it, it is right. If he jumps in a well you will too. Pathetic
@Dr Pryinka may god bless u sis.
@Gp65: You still have not explained how you concluded that i was justifying persecution. Secondly, the use of word care was specifically in ghe context that you used In responding to @Kayamat and no other. I even said that your argument to the other gentleman should not have been on the basis of fear of west. Thirdly, it was unfair of you accuse me of being taken in by Modi's PR. Just as you have a right to oppose him without me accusing you of being a disloyal Indian, i have a right to support him without being accused of being a blind and naive supporter of a supposed demaogue.
Finally, i read the outlook translation of the supposed speech at Becharaji and i do agree with you that if someone actually said those words, it was in extremely poor taste. However being a Gujarati myself, i tried to hear the actual words. I could not find the supposed NDTV clipping. Considering how his words were misrepresented in the Priyanka Gandhi is my daughter case by DD - no less, i will make up my mind if I can actually hear the original speech.
When you tell like it is, they attack him. That is the Saffron tactics. They killed 2000 people in Gjurat alone, and Modi presided over the government, said nothing and did nothing. When you are in-charge, you own the problem. Modi shows no owner-ship. For that he was rewarded with 14 years of continuous rule in Gujrat and now all of India. When the Saffranis infiltrate the government, they go after the helpless minorities. Although the constitution supposedly protects everyone equally, but the evidence is erased by those in authority. One of the Saffron central government ministers says that rape can be justified. What kind of mentality is governing now? One minister in-charge of minorities says his responsibility is Parsis, because they are few and her responsibility is to protect them. Other minorities like Muslims to her are not a minority. They are zero Muslims MPs in BJP and yet they are not a minority! Does anyone care? Elections are won based on false promises. We all know that. Development is not real agenda, its a vote getting tactics. Those who want to develop don't attack and kill in cold blood hard working IT managers working for the good of India, only because of hate against Islam. They practice violence against the helpless and not ahimssa. The RSS mentality has killed Gandhi and many innocent people, and dehumanized the minorities. To them everyone is an invader, except themselves. Why should people be murdered, raped and burnt because they have a different way of life from you? Carried to an extreme, they will turn against their own one day.
The writer is a respected analyst. One may not agree with him, that is OK. Just agree to disagree.
@dr priyanka just like your heart breaks for them against nehru and Patel. My heart breaks for invaders who came to india and destroyed local religious architecture, looted parts of our lands, converted people and owned it. Capturing someone else country then shedding crocodile tears why we we reclaimed our motherland is double standard. @the Eddy . His forefathers are converts. @rakib speak for yourself not Kashmiris. Kashmiris are happy with bjp. It's the congress the hate because they don't move forward under congress regime. Modi govt brings hope to them claimed by their own polictical leader who won, mehbooba mufti. Btw bjp won 2 or 3 seats in jk state. Exposes your logic. About that "baby making factory comment" leaving all issues aside if a a parent who is filthy poor have 12-14 kids on a average, no sense of family planning, reject the use of preventive methods offered free by govt what will you call them? Irrespective Hindu/Muslim. @ali tanoli those 50% will become 20% when govt rehabilitate Kashmiri Hindus that fled away after attacks, back into their motherland from delhi and other parts of india. So dream on. We have conducted many surveys jammu and LAdhak is our side. While kashmir wants independence from both countries. @jahangir chauhan that's what is taught in your history to give you a sense of entitlement. By world history, you would update your base more about various indian prince who ruled ancient india. It weren't the Mughals that united us.
@Dr. Priyanka: Yes the beauty of the Hyderabad lost it's luster over period of time. Agree with majestic buildings of yester years. Look at the area around race course. All the gardens gone and trees are gone. Land Mafia and Politicians for profits ruined the city. What is your take on razakar movement (now MIM)? It is moot point to think how Hyd Rulers would have turned out. They supported Feudal lords/zamindars to extend their rule.
@Gp65: When you intervened on behalf of @Kayamat you should have read his post. I was responding to this sentence by him ((Who cares what Kashmiris think?)) What does the meaning of "Cares" in that sentence indicate? When you wrote (So yes, he does care and he should care for all 125 crore Indians) what does the twice used word "care" in your sentence indicate? Do both "Care" usage mean same? You are an articulate person & know for sure or consult somebody..I don't know whether a link will be against ET policy here. Type modi-child-factory-Becharaji in Google search."“Relief camps are actually child-making factories. Those who keep on multiplying the population should be taught a lesson. —Modi, addressing a rally in Mehsana district during his Gaurav Yatra, quoted in The Hindu, Sept 10, 2002. "Hindu" is a respectable one, right? There are long excerpts from a translation of an audio recording of the speech at Becharaji Temple, courtesy NDTV and Indian Express by Outlook Magazine. Relevant part:. Quote:I want to ask the Congress, why do you object if....Narmada waters brought in the month of Shravan? When you come to power, you are free to bring water during Ramzan... So what should we do? Do we go and run relief camps? Should we open child producing centres?:Unquote One may now go ahead with pettifogging!
@someone: I would like to add this also. The US consulate in Hyderabad is in a palace and the family dont collect any rent from the Americans. Just google it and see the beauty and splendour of it. There are 100s of such palaces in Hyderabad. I miss it. I am not thankful to the Nehrus or Patel. When the old families of Hyderabad such as the Jungs, the Bilgramis etc tell me their tales, how the Indian mafia treated them my heart breaks.
@someone: that's a mistake. If the king was ruling Hyderabad then the Owaisis would not be in power- we dont bother about them now anyways.When Akbar [younger brother] shoots off his mouth against Hindus, we say baccha hai. When he was stabbed by the yemenis, the Hindu docs brought him back from the jaws of death. [See youtube].The Nizam's PM was Hindu, most of his dewans were hindus and he helped hindu students with grants to study abroad. Then there would have been no reservations -almost 50% now, thanks to the Nehrus. All the universities and colleges were built by the Nizam, even we drink the water from all the tanks which were built by him. As you are aware he was the world's richest man once upon a time. Thankfully our dad's home is in Banjara hills in Hyderabad-google it and you would know what the area is like. Hyderabad was a capital city of a rich kingdom since centuries. The Indian government did not build anything there, but Naidu turned it into an IT jungle and called Bill Gates to build Cyberabad to irritate us and then came Bill Clinton and Bush. Dont know for what? Then the Andhrawalas stole all palaces with the jewellery and grabbed lands around the palaces. They threatened the nobel families of Hyderabad and grabbed everything from them. Please dont hurt me more!
Please allow response to 2 people who have written to me.
@Rakib: Ok, so you are contradicting yourself. You said Modi will jolly well have to care because of fear of the west in your response to the other person. Then you bring up Vibrant Gujarat and other stuff and claim he does not care based on number of people remaining in the camps. So by your own logic fear of west should have made him care and yet he doesn't using your definition of care?
I talked about his electoral track record in Gujarat to refer to the fact that i was not going by propaganda and that unlike you, many other people living in Gujarat did judge him to be great at governance. Otherwise many other people in other states suffered a blowback due to anti-insurgency.
The comment about baby making factories is indeed terrible. Please provide any url that substantiates that. It should be a direct quote from him and not something attributed to him by a 3rd person.
@Rangoonwala: clouds darkening on India? FIIs poured in $3billion in Indian stock markets on news of Modi election in less than 3 weeks (Pakistan gets around $500 million in a year) and as we speak the only non-Gulf airline has decided to stop flying out of Pakistan. Seriously wishful thinking has no limits.
@Ali Tanoli: so thats how a Muslim communalist thinks !!
@Gp65: Please understand something. Regardless of your chest thumping, wrapping yourself in saffron robes and repeatedly grunting the mantra of lord Modi Our Savior has arrived,.Our Savior is here, Shining India, Rising India, Vibrant Gujrat does not changes the World's perception of Modi, Or for that matter, India's. Facts remain the same. The world knows Modi has a rap sheet. !0 pages long. A horrified world watched India elect a demagogue. A charlatan. who preys upon the illiterate masses emotions to the nth. degree. Nothing will change that. It's done. He is elected. The clouds are already darkening the Indian horizons. In the same breath it can be said that people of your ilk will never, never admit to the real tarnished image of Modi, under all that Kabuki make up. Just as in Germany, people did not admit there were concentration camps. Right up till the last moment.
]ET mods please allow this response to an Indian troll. This is a Pakistani paper[
@Dr Priyanka: Well Dr., if Nehru and Patel had not forced Hyderabad to join India, people like you ( read Hindu) would have been driven out of it by likes of Owaisis long time back.
@Dr Priyanka: Quid-e-Azam never wanted to be PM of India but yes Nehru and Paetl both wanted to be PM.He wanted equality and power sharing a just formula between hindu muslims read his speech in Lucknow pact in 1916.
Dipak@Naresh: there are no Muslim majority states in India except Kashmir.
@Gp65:I was talking of Muslim relief camp (where things are not "vibrant"), conditions there, Modi's lack of visit even once in 12 years & his insulting but typically crude description of the Camps as "baby factories" to counter your claim that "he cares".And you are talking of some development your folks talk about and the overwhelming number of votes he got. I don't disagree with the numbers at all but don't you realise life in a Relief Camp is not about number of seats won in Parliament or Assembly? Or is this classical deflection, BJP style?! We have no common ground at all..
ET- 2nd attempt. Please allow response to someone who has written to me.
@Rakib: Ok now that you provided the context I understand your concern. It is still not clear ow you concluded that i was implying that the oppression would take place or that I was okay with that?
Secondly, did I make any reference o Vibrant Gujarat? No. In any case, now that you have brought up Gujarat governance - you may not think much of it but clearly a lot of Gujaratis disagree with you and agree with me as the complete 26-0 sweep in Gujarat shows this time. So we can agree to disagree. But just as you claim to know ground reality, so do I ( as I have many relatives there and regularly isit) and furhermore boters of Gujarat who have repeatedly elected him, also know the round reality. We may all assess it dofferently and that is fine. To impky that i have been misled by BJP slogans is an unfair claim.
Mr. Nayar, It is sad to see the height of biasness in your article. The intention of the article is to please the readers of Pakistan and increase your popularity amongst the readers there.
Do you even know that 11 people of HRS has been arrested, including its leader? No, you would not even want to know because you dont want to practice proper journalism, you want to write what the reders in pak would like to read.
Clean you back before you talk about India
Dipak@Ali Tanoli: Hyderabad and Junagadh were and always are Hindu majority places. Kashmir is Muslim majority place.
Dipak@BruteForce: Don't say Nehru and Patel, just Patel. If it wasn't for Patel, India would have been divided into many countries and remained in Stone Age.
@Ali Tanoli: Junagarh and Hyderabad were Hindu majorities. The nawabs were Muslim. Not sure where you are getting your facts i.e. these were Muslim majority states.
@someone: My uncle was a congressi and went to prison during the war of independence, although grandpa who was a Rajputra and owner of 5000 acres of land -4 villages entertained british officers. Once we became independent, we were looted. All land, gold [even the one on the statues of gods was not spared] was looted by the great great independent Indians. This happened in Amravati in Maharashtra. The govt of Hyderabad was kinder, gave a month's notice to sort out the property etc to their people. Baba left Maharashtra for good and found safe haven in Hyderabad. I love Hyderabad. So should I like the Nehrus and Patels who stabbed the Nizam of Hyderabad in the back?
@indian @weirdity, It happened in past it will happened in future nothing is imposible or holy enough to stay united so don't say india never broke it never united until Mughals made it one.
@Ali Tanoli: I believe Jinnah wanted to be PM of India, but Nehru did not want that! Rest is history.
@Jahangir Chauhan: You first worry about TTP.
@Sure?: ET chose to nix my posts reg Art#370. May be due to wordiness. That would have clarified matters & @Gp65 would have understood.. Now that RSS has begun the debate on getting rid of 370 if it is not handled tactfully & with great empathy in no time it can become contentious since the suspicion would be of changing demographics in Valley. Please appreciate neither I nor any interlocutor on this thread needs to be convinced. It's Kashmiris that need solid rassurances. Talk to ALL Kashmiris.. Bullying won't work-Srinagar is not Ahmedabad. Modi has to convince separatists also, or at least make them irrelevant, today or tomorrow. He has to cross the Rubicon. And for that his personal credibility is immensely important. Modi starts with a disadvantage; Muslims of Kashmir will not trust him as yet & letting RSS fellows talk about 370 was a grave folly. He can recover fast of course. If Modi is unable to withstand RSS pressure & if strong arm tactics are used with help of Army & Army act, persecution is a possibility which will draw international attention. And yes, Modi did not make the Army law. I thought I had mentioned Gandhi-'42,British & 1990 too but you didn't read it..
@Ali Tanoli: You are my favorite person. The reason for you being my favorite is that your views are based on what you learnt in your school text books and you are unflinchingly loyal towards what you learnt from those text books even if someone conclusively proves you wrong. So you are an accurate and sturdy window into Pakistan studies. And that is of immeasurable worth to many people like me who don't have access to those books. Thanks.
@ Ali Tanoli Percentage of religious population doesn't matter, what happened with Bangladesh? what is happening in Baluchistan? Do you really think religious identity can hold a nation together. No. The reason for India's comparative success is its diversity. Dividing a nation based on religion was a mistake and India will not be divided again.
@Gp65: It was ignored since the panegyric to Modi just because he ate some food in a Kashmiri home, like Rahul used to eat for drama, doesn't interest me.. Subject of my post to @Kayamat which you responded to (without apparently reading Kayamat's post) was Kashmir. Not whole of India. In Kashmir certain provisions of Constitution can be suspended by army any time. Yes, I know he did not make that law. What he does with Muslims in other parts is not the issue though his record is not the brightest in Gujarat. He cares for his compatriots?? He cares? Out of about 200,000 Muslims displaced during 2002 Riots 25000 are still in refugee camps, Do you have a clue about conditions there? Vibrant Gujarat? Please don't give me BJP propaganda spiel- I live nearby..There are such refugee camps still there after 12 years! A few within & around his constituency. He has not visited them in last 12 years.But breaks bread in Kashmir! He labelled the Camps, with his typical callousness, as "baby manufacturing factories". He cares only for a pup if it is crushed under his car wheel. Such is his care.
It is very much possible that Modi himself may ask for Plebiscite to be implemented fully, following all conditions, without any exception. He may do so during his 2nd term as PM of India. Kashmir has only two options, either to join India or to join Pakistan and plebiscite is for the whole of Kashmir region, including that now held by Pakistan. If this happens, it will be Pakistan and not India that shall be opposing plebiscite. Kashmiris also will oppose the plebiscite as they have no option for an independent Kashmir comprising of the entire region including that now held by Pakistan. In the past, due to insurgency and terrorism, India did not have that much confidence. It is totally a different situation now. But by that time, who knows if Baluchistan will still be a part of Pakistan.
Three months before the recent elections in India, everyone was predicting a hung parliament with many saying it will be a Congress led government. Even one month before the elections most were predicting 80 seats for BJP and 130 seats for NDA. Not even one thought that BJP, on its own, will have a clear majority.
@Rakib: I read @gp65's comment, then i read yours. Thought i missed something and went back and read her comments. I cold not make any connect? Where has she implied that there will be a carnage? I also do jot understand your reference to AFSPA. Is Modi the one that broight this law? Has it not been there for all 10 years of Manmohan's rule? What triggered its implementation? Was it not the waves of foreign funded terrorists who created mayhem?
Speaking of your confidence in the West, did they intervene when tens of thousands of Pandits were pushed out from their homes? What was their role during 1971? Did they stop Tiger Niazi?
ET- my post has been mischarachterised. Please allow rebutal.
@Rakib: You ignored all the rest of my post. I said there WILL NOT be any persecution of any group, i said that all Indians including Indian Muslims derive their rights from the constitution and NOT from the benevolence of the west. I also said that any persecution of any group would not be supported by most Ondians barring a small fringe. How could you twist what is said ino the exact opposite i.e. that he WILL persecute people?
Can you please re-read my original post? The entire post this time and not just a sentence taken out of context?
@mega Ladakh is fifty percent shia muslims even kargil is eighty percent muslims then how they are asking for seprate country yes Jammu we believed is hindu majority and can go to india.
@Kafir, @brute force, @others, Thank u guys for replies but question is u guys don't think Nehru was a main character of congress and is responsible of all the migration missry of west Punjab hindus peoples and why he got attacked in dehli when he visited emigrants.. and patel another ugly charactor who misguided Sikhs and we lost whole Punjab and even dehli.
@farukh you are living in lala land if you think kashmir wants to join you. In state of Jammu and Kashmir if at all you have plebiscite. Jammu is going to chose india because of Hindu population,Ladakh has already in past requested india to make it union territory under its rule. And kashmir wants independent hood from both india and pakistan. Don't know what makes you think they want to join you. They do read the paper daily you about the economic condition, terror strikes that's happening in pakistan on daily basis..
@Indian: I hope you are right... though we, in Pakistan, have our reservations. Lets hope you are right, and they are wrong...
@Kayamat According to your logic, did all the Christians living in India came from UK ?
@Kayamat There was never any mass migration of people from middle east or central Asia into Indian subcontinent in past 5000 years. Kashmiris are as son of the soil as you are.
I stopped reading at 'Sharad Pawar'.
Skipped straight to comments.
@Gp65: (What makes you think it would have more leverage against India? No fear of US or west is a false bogey.)That came across as some kind of advance warning of things to come in Kashmir! Tad early! Not even a month in job & already? It's circular reasoning but we will see whether persecution by him will go unchallenged by the world. Also, let's skip the claims on Constitution in J & K where all Rights can be suspended & only law that matters is a Draconian one:-The Armed Forces (Jammu and Kashmir) Special Powers Act, 1990 (AFSPA), the parent law of which was used for the first time in India during 1942 Quit India movement of the Mahatma.
@FAZ: Meanwhile in Kashmir, sms service was blocked and restored just a few weeks back. Thats a change? Cant stop for a few sms crticising the government/indian policies?
Buddy, SMS service was stopped by the J&K government of Mullah Omar (EDIT: Omar Abdullah).
The first thing he did after his party lost every single seat in J&K was to restore SMS service. As to why he blocked it in the first place, I really don't know. By what convoluted logic do you people think that it was to stop criticizing central government policies?
Please stop shedding crocodile tears for Kashmiris. Indians can also do that for every marginalized group in Pakistan, but we restrain ourselves from doing so.
@FAZ: sms was blocked when? how many days? what about pakistan?
Kashmiries from the very first day till now are in the favour of Pakistan it is only because of Muslim majority like people of India did at the time of separation. Hindus had joined India and mostly Muslims joined Pakistan. And ironically it is very shameful that Indians can see and protest over killing of Mohsin but they seem to be blind or senseless when Kashmiri people are killed at daily basis. India itself is supporting these innocent killings of Kashmiri Muslims Politically, Financially and Administrativelly.
We will still be talking about Kashmir after a hundred years. Move on!
@Indian Catholic: "It is 2014 and India has changed. Majority of Indians cutting across ethnicity, religion, caste, poverty and other barriers have joined hands to pull down a corrupt and inefficient government and hoisted their aspirations in a clear mandate to a single man. This is no longer the India from the history books."
Meanwhile in Kashmir, sms service was blocked and restored just a few weeks back. Thats a change? Cant stop for a few sms crticising the government/indian policies?
@Ali Tanoli:
Was Bangladesh also a snake?
@Rakib: Modi cares about Indian Kashmiris because they are Indians - not because he is afraid of international censure which he has faced squarely and unflinchinly. In early 90s when insurgency was at peak in Kashmir, he has lived in Kashmiri Muslim homes and broken bread with them. So yes, he does care and he should care for all 125 crore Indians including Kashmiris - but not for the reason you stated i.e. fear of the west.
What has US been able to do about the persecution of Hindu minor girls, Shias, Ahmadis and Christians in Pakistan? What makes you think it would have more leverage against India? No fear of US or west is a false bogey. All Indians regardless of their faith or even if they are atheists are entitled to the protectio of the state according to our constitution and this is where Indian Muslims derive their rights. This protection comes from Indian constitution not a fear of west. Are there occasional failures in the law - of course. But deliberate persecution of any Indian of any faith would be unacceptale to most Indians - barring some crazy small fringe and that should have been the basis of your argument.
I respect Mr. Kuldip Nayar, and I am amongst the voices he referred to in support of pluralism. However, this article has more than its fair share of prejudices than that of facts.
The state government(Congress/NCP) had submitted a report about the unfortunate incidence. The central government(BJP) actually rejected that report seeking a detailed investigationhttp://www.punemirror.in/pune/crime/Centre-rejects-states-report-on-Mohsin-Shaikhs-murder-Khadse/articleshow/36220508.cms
The #2 above shows that the central govt. was/is serious about the communal violences than the state govt, but Mr. Nayar failed to make a note of it. Secondly, he missed a subtle point of vote-bank politics from Mr. Pawar in the light of upcoming state elections in Maharashtra.
Mr. Nayar referred to Sharad Pawar and his comments to support his pre-conceived notions, and I believe he probably missed the point there. Sharad Pawar is a shrewd man, and he knows now that "Development and Good Governance" were more appealing to the people of India, and it even crossed over to his traditional vote bank of minorities(muslims and other); for probably the first time. Therefore, it was in his party's interest to bring the specter of communal-violence and save his eroding vote-bank.
@Hafiz Saeed, LET: Loved the subtle sarcasm :D
@Ali Tanoli: u couldnt even tc of bengal? yawn
@antanu 31% vote in indian democracy is huge feat considering there are 1,616 political parties in india where votes split amongst 1,616 parties yet one party got 31% share. The rest who even got close to 20% if at all are coalition parties not single party or state specific party. All the secular parties failed. Even congress only got 19% vote share. So who's better 19 or 31? @ali tanoli why should india give any? India as a country is 5000 year old. Any invader coming and converting people doesn't mean we give away our motherland. They can go back to their invaders land if they dislike it among their own ethnicities after being converted.
@Strategic Asset: Mine was a response to a comment. To understand the context please first read the post mentioning "invaders" by @Kayamat.
@Rakib:
"Invaders, outsiders, Martians or whoever, Kashmiris are in possession & so will they remain & there is nothing you can do about it."
Then the same should apply to Israel/Palestine. You agree?
@Rakib: Invaders, outsiders, Martians or whoever, Kashmiris are in possession & so will they remain & there is nothing you can do about it.
Your statement hints that someone may have been in possession earlier. What happened to them?
@BruteForce: Ali Tinoli's frustration from Nehru and Patel is because they let have Jinnah his way to create Pakistan which made him living in Pakistan now.
@Kayamat: You ask: (Who cares what Kashmiris think?) Your Saffron leaders, from SP Mukherjee & Balraj Madhok thru Vajpayee/Advani to Modi, all have cared. You have no choice but to jolly well care for what they think. If Modi gets embroiled in persecuting his own compatriots & attracts unsavoury international attention the way Milosevic did then all that Development Dream vapourises. Invaders, outsiders, Martians or whoever, Kashmiris are in possession & so will they remain & there is nothing you can do about it.
There's war going on in Pakistan and you guys are more worried about Modi. Seriously, you guys should get your priorities straight.
@Ali Tanoli:
Nehru and Patel had more character in their index finger than you.
If you do not know history, you have no right to comment.
Because of Nehru and Patel, India is what it is today. Because they had vision. They implemented Land Reforms in 1951, as soon as the Constitution was written in 1950. That Constitution still stands today, high and mighty.
How many Constitutions did Pakistan have? Only 10 years ago, Musharaff tore it to shreds.
What was the vision of the Muslim League? Due to contrasting statements and speeches, there is no clarity. Sharia or Secularism? Islam or Plurality? Violence or non-Violence?
Nehru and Patel took some tough decisions and India has had almost 7 decades of un-interrupted Democracy since those men took power. Its NOT a coincidence.
@kafir Pakistan studies is not necessary to be read about hindu cleverness and deceit fr these states. May be u should study some other books than the history u study in ur course. I m sure u won't find them hilarious.
@antanu: NDA ot 40% of votes. In any case, in India we have always had a first past the oal post system and even Indira Gandhi never had a 50% vote share at prime of her popularity. What counts is seats and BJP has a majority there.
Thanks for the great and wonderful article. I'm a big fan of yours
Demand to review Article 370 shouldn't be seen as anti-Muslim rhetoric. In fact it comes from a faction of people who are enuinely interested in welfare of the people of Kashmir. How has 370 helped Kashmir? The strong democratic and constitutional institutions of India are kept away from the Kashmir because of 370 Their is no conducive environment for private investment in Kashmir. Post Graduate youths of Kashmir are doing menial labourjobs. People of Kashmir are confused due to separate constitution and political hegemony as well as separatists are taking undue advantage of this confusion Do u think Kashmir can survive if it choses to be independent? The ambitions of India, Pakistan and China will crush Kashmir. Demanding discussion and review of article 370 is not anti Muslim but its pro Kashmir.
@Ali Tanoli: It was lucky for Hyderabd and Junagarh that they became part of India instead of Pakistan else their fate would be same as any other state of Pakistan. People of Hyderabad ( one of the major IT hub in India) and Junagarh should prostrate in front of photos of Nehru and Patel every day.
Does Nawaz says sorry for every bomb explosion in pakistan or even the Karachi killigs. As this all has happened under his government, he is responsible for that.
When will Nawaz say sorry?!!!!
Modi is doing what's best for country... Modi is trying to make india's economy more and more healthy but guys like you are still struck with appeasement of a community... It's hard to digest modi's win after a month... Isn't it ? And for pakistanis ''you were predicting that if modi win's, it wud be catastrophic for india.. Look nothing haapened... You guys should look after your bussiness of export of terrorism...
one day saffron will go pakistan to kill you!!! wait!! your false propaganda will become true!!!
@Ali Tanoli thanks for the entertainment for sharing with us what you studied in Pakistan Studies. LOL. Hyderabad and Junagadh had Hindu majority populations in 1947. Still Pakistani ideologues/ Jinnah wanted those states due to greed. And completely opposite to the principle on which they demanded Kashmir.
Share with us what else you studied in Pakistan studies. I came across a question paper once and found it hilarious. By the way we don't have India studies in India. We read a highly sanitized version of History hiding how much communal hatred was whipped up in 1940s by.........
Really? Who cares what Kashmiris think? They came with the invaders and they can leave if they want. Kashmir was with India long before the Muslim invaders came into our lands. That spans nearly 5000 years. They took it by force and we don't have to sweet-talk them to hand it back.
@Indian Catholic: no sir not majority of Indian. irrespective of seats...BJP got ONLY 31% of votes in last election.Even Bajpai ji had done better.
@Naresh - oops. I meant to say even in states where there is a sizeable Muslim population.
If Modi is responsible for 2002 Gujarat riots, then why is the sate Government of Maharashtra, run by Congress and the NCP is not responsible for the incident in Pune. Only truth can beat lies. Another lie cannot overwhelm a previous lie. Do not be an apologist for the "secular" crowd. "Secular" Indian parties are as communal as the BJP.
Spare a thought or two for Hyderabad and Junagarh vis-a-vis Kashmir. Are there not any parallels?
Of course not, India is always good, correct, noble, shining... etc.
Kuldip Nayyer has spoken too soon. He should wait for a few months before passing a judgement. Most people in India have condemned the killing of Mohsin Sheikh and police have initiated action against a certain group that is perceived to be behind this killing. One event, condemned by all, cannot form the basis of such a serious conclusion. Mr Nayyer, hold your horses for a while please.
When guys like Nayar start quoting thoroughly corrupt and discredited people like Sharad Pawar they are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
@ Jehangir Chauhan: Before the election, you guys were predicting a disaster if Modi was elected. Looks like you've moved back your forecast a few years.
@Sri : He did not offer them reservations or any sops but he offered them a stake in the development and that explains the near sweep in UP and other Muslim majority states of India . Sir Ji - With the exception of the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir there is no neither UP not any other Indian State where the Muslims are in Majority - Not yet! . Cheers
It is 2014 and India has changed. Majority of Indians cutting across ethnicity, religion, caste, poverty and other barriers have joined hands to pull down a corrupt and inefficient government and hoisted their aspirations in a clear mandate to a single man. This is no longer the India from the history books. Youth voted in large numbers this time and there can be no doubt that it is they who will set the agenda. They are not going to be bothered by little irritants like the past or be bogged down by history.
Those like the author have failed to keep up with the times and failed to understand the mood of Indians.
@Indian: kuldip is a brave and courageous journalist who does call a spade a spade...RS and it's cronies obviously love to hate him or anyone for that matter if confronted with firm conviction and logic.your reaction proves that kuldip sir has hit you below the belt.
Hyderabad, Junagarh, Jammu & Kashmir, they all were Muslims majority states and supposed to be with under Pakistan ruled but Nehru and patel two snakes in congress did not allowed that and time has come to when if for godbid something happened nothing will live but ashes and flames. mr kuldip is very kind person and I agreed with him.
Even many if not most Pakistanis will have a kinder and gentler view of what's going on in India than this person.
The claims of this fellow are not even worthy of response. Indians are fair minded people and recognize vicious propaganda.
One thing Kuldip and his ilk haven't realized is this: the biggest source of strength and what propelled Modi/BJP to power is the hate filled lies and demonisation of BJP/ Modi by Kuldip types.
Saffron terror is about to encircle whole of India within few years as Modi's advent to power.