But this is all fun. What’s not fun is to constantly have to explain why I still live here. On my first-ever visit to India, when I arrived at the police station to inform the officials of my arrival, the clerk’s first question for my uncle was “Wapas kyun jaaney derahay ho?” A question I was forced to think about during my entire stay. Those people don’t speak my language and I don’t like Hindi much. But that place was safe. My mother wasn’t worried I’d die every time I went out for chaat.
In Pakistan, till recently, my biggest problem was all the attention my name garnered for me. People elsewhere in the country were being called names and kicked out of classrooms for their ethnic backgrounds or religious beliefs — but we won’t discuss that here. What I will discuss here are the various reactions I’ve encountered (in Pakistan) with regard to my religion and (in India) with regard to my nationality.
Once, a kind Punjabi man from Lahore, after realising he’d had a three-hour Partition related conversation with a Pakistani Hindu, said I was “his own daughter, Pakistan’s daughter, because I was born here”. He even promised to visit when he came to my city. And this isn’t even the nicest thing ever said to me. A couple of years ago, a friend’s grandfather, upon realising he was in the company of a Hindu, said I should tell my father that “his brother in Lahore” would look after me and that I should call him if I needed anything. The man was 11 at the time of Partition. He was amongst those who had lost loved ones and made the difficult journey to cross the border 66 years ago.
My journey across the same border was different, of course. After a life lived on the wrong side, I found that India was exactly what Bollywood movies had taught me to expect: only bigger and scarier. The only problem was that when I wasn’t with my family, I was a stranger; I couldn’t read the signs on the roads. Once, at a Rajasthani restaurant, my Urdu caused a waiter to ask me where I was from. My cousin and my aunt were quick to reply for me, “Dubai se aye hain guests”. They had their reasons, I suppose. Sentiments run high when it comes to India and Pakistan. If we keep these sentimental values aside though, I know we live in troubled times. But that isn’t just true for the minorities here. It’s true for everyone.
The street I live on, in Pakistan — the country I was born and raised in — has suffered several bomb attacks during my short lifetime. Buildings that were torn apart were rebuilt just to be attacked again. People were killed and there was destruction everywhere. This is how I learnt what ‘terror’ means. All of this and much worse is experienced by Pakistanis on an almost daily basis.
People from across the border leave me messages on social media websites, asking what it’s like to be a Hindu in Pakistan, whether things are as bad as their television sets cause them to believe and I laugh. I laugh each time because that question seems naive and I only have one answer: the one thing that unites all Pakistanis today is the fear with which they live and contrary to what one might want to believe, no one is safe from that. All of us live with a combination of rage, confusion and helplessness but we survive, day in and day out.
To keep it simple, it’s scary to live in Pakistan — Hindu or not. And as much as we’d all like to escape the dread of this life, there isn’t any other place I’d much rather be living, after all, umeed pey dunya qaim hai — all we need now, is the himmat.
Published in The Express Tribune, October 29th, 2013.
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I have a Pakistani Hindu friend here in New York and her experience was quite the opposite of the writer's. An individual experience does not speak for the whole country. Pakistan's government has not done well by its citizens. If Jinnah had had his way and not passed away so soon after Partition, Pakistan would have been in much better shape. The generals in power, constantly talk about Kashmir and how horrible India is. Why not spend all the money they waste on defense on education and infrastructure instead? They care more for themselves than their people.
People like you are the pride of Pakistan, you are the real daughter of this country Priyanka.
@1984: People of India and Pakistan don't celebrate division of the British India on 15th or 14th August, they celebrate self-rule and exit of Britishers. It is not that difficult to understand. Or is it for you?
"Those people don’t speak my language and I don’t like Hindi much"... try Punjabi, it just might work for you.
@gtm2012: It appears ET has rejected my reply to you. I will have to leave it at that.
I personally had the chance to meet many Hindu migrants from Pakistan to Bhopal and Indore in India. All of them presented entirely different picture of the plight of Hindus there in Pakistan. Are you projecting Pakistan's image at the behest of some people in Pakistan or you are having some other motives.
@KUMAR: "hindus in pakistan and muslims in India are both protected by strong laws. " Really? Hindus in Pakistan are protected by strong laws? And what laws would they be? There is not even a law that allows Hindus to register their marriage. By law they as well as any other non-Muslim cannot become CJ, COAS, PM or PResident. While the proportion of Muslims in India has grown by 67% from 9% to 15%, the proportion of Hindus and SIkhs has gone down by 90% from 10% to 2% at time of independence.
Please look at how their courts treated the RInkle Kumari case.
Minorities are not allowed to vote for general candidates in Pakistan which means they do not have the political voice that minorities exercise through the ballot box.
No country is perfect but there is no discrimination in Indian laws based on religion whereas Pakistani laws discriminate against non-Muslims. BEsides the law it is also the issue of implementation of law and holding trouble makers responsible. Again there is no comparison between what happens in India vs. Pakistan.
The issues against minorities in Pakistan are not once in a while as you seem to think.
@Bakhtiyar Ghazi Khan: Funny that you brought up the movie "Ram Chand Pakistani". In this movie the role of the hindu woman is played by Nandita Das who is a hindu from India. There is not even one non-muslim (hindu or christian) movie stars, singers, composers, writers in Pakistan. Many Pakistani muslim actors and singers go to India, Adnan Sami considers India as his home. Even in school exchange programs or where Pakistani students represent Pakistan, you will never see even one non-muslim representing Pakistan. Many of these students from Pakistan are from educational institutions created by christians. Similarly, you will not find any non-muslim representing Pakistan in any of its sports events. Pakistan does not have even one non-muslim in its cricket, foot-ball of hockey team. India has many muslim cricket stars. In fact Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi captained the Indian cricket team for many years. In this movie, the hindu from Pakistan faces problems in India only because he is a Pakistani and not because he is a hindu. Yes, in India many, muslims included, have lot of dislike for Pakistan, just because of their country and not because of their religion.
Can you come up with names of any non-muslim who represents Pakistan in any of its sports team, any non-muslim actor,or singer, any non-muslim student who has represented pakistan in any programs like Model United Nations, school exchange programs, etc.?
A poorly edited article. The author comes across as shallow and her worldview is based on how a couple of people in Pakistan were nice to her when they found out she is a Hindu. How is her dislike of a language (hindi) even related to being a Hindu? Or is she ignorant enough to think that Hindus only speak Hindi?
@Bakhtiyar Ghazi Khan: FACEPALM
Using a movie based on a fictional story as evidence to prove your point....
I'm in short of words to reply honestly....Dont think I can argue with people because next he will bring Spiderman comics next
Let we love and regard all human beings,irespective of their cast, creed, relegion, area, belief. Nothing is good or bad but thinking make it so.
@Dr Dang: All the Indians like you who are so annoyed by this article should grow up and look at where your own country is headed - towards electing a wretched communalist, Modi! Pakistan on the other hand is headed in the right direction with a pragmatic, business-oriented government in place. Pakistan may not be there yet, but Pakistanis already are. And one day Pakistan too will become a place that is worthy of its wonderful sons and daughters like Malala and Priyanka.
No Pakistanis, not even Hindu Pakistanis, are safe from the Indian Hindu extremist venom which has engulfed India. I recommend you guys watch "Ram Chand Pakistani" to see how Indians treat our Pakistani Hindus brothers and sisters.
The author makes a fair point. Indians, especially metro Hindus are acutely aware of the 1 million odd Hindus in the US (everyone has a cousin etc in the US blah blah blah). Bollywood even went through a phase where these 'desis', Americans by birth but Hindus by 'soul' were the principal protagonists. But I have not seen a single movie or even much written material about the Hindus of Pakistan. And we do tend to use the plight of Pakistani Hindus to score political points over Pakistanis, although Pakistan's exploitation of Indian Muslims is far more treacherous and cynical.
But the fact remains that the Hindus of Pakistan are decreasing rapidly in number. Thousands do migrate to India and other places every year. Pakistan is now almost a uni-religious state in the West Asian mould than the South Asian one. Muslims are ever present in India's national life, 5 out of 41 Bharat Ratna's have gone to them and many more Padma awards. They are surely part of the modern Indian story. By contrast, minorities are almost absent in Pakistan's national life. In this light, the author should perhaps not be surprised at the reaction she gets from some on revealing her identity.
Hindus in Pakistan need 'himmat' to simply survive, while Muslims in India need organization to exercise rights guaranteed by their Constitution. That is the difference.
@Zen.One:
A. I am afraid you are mixing communal violence or for that matter harmony between different religions with blatant acts of terrorism.
Allow me to 'un-confuse' it for you. Let us talk of Shanti Nagar and Joseph Colony. If confusion still persists, we can also talk of Gojra later on.
Do tell me some day how many have been found guilty for any of these 'non-terrorist' incidents?
http://dawn.com/in-depth/state-of-fear
http://dawn.com/news/1052668/the-other-name-for-chak-7210-r
B. TTP called this in accordance with shariah, not any local Mufti, Maulvi or any other group and not a single person accepted this blatant interpretation of shariah.
Again, I request your permission to introduce you to a 'Grand Mufti' no less. http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/04/grand-mufti-of-saudi-arabia-calls-for-destruction-of-churches/
Are you sure, not even the suicide bombers accepted this version?
@Rakib:
You write thoughtfully and soberly about many issues. However, in a respectful manner, let me suggest that unless you are deeply rooted in the Indian society and are really well-versed in the traditions, you will misunderstand the concepts of caste, jati, varna, and the complex histories of each subregion of India. Indeed, Western scholars frequently do, as do most Indians who are westernized, urban and in scant touch with their own roots.
When you, Rakib, just now mentioned "caste" as a determining factor in rural eelctoral politics, and one that has become reinforced by various systems of vote banks and political inducements since Independence, you are correct, BUT only partially, since you are not a specialist observer of this phenomenon. Are you? Were you such, you would not have confused the 3000 endogamous groups of India, that variously appear as jati, with varna, today all lumped under the omnibus word "caste".
I do wish we could meet and talk about these subjects and world history in comparative terms, to provide a context for your thoughts. There is much addled thinking that goes on in the name of Indian sociology, and certainly, puerile nonsense is the hallmark of the comments in various newspapers. I am saddened by the policy of moderation, whereby draconian censorship of free expression eliminates any point of view not in accord with the whims and prejudices of a scant few and fallible individuals, while allowing to pass any amount of offensive and scurrilous poison.
To sum up, what you say about "caste" is true as far as endogamous groups are concerned and as far as electoral politics and wresting benefits from the government are concerned. Then, there is the greater realm of social interactions where what Raj has said is far more true than what you believe. When you are an armchair student of India, an enormously complex society, you are apt to be led to false generalizations. For example, Bengal differs dramatically from neighboring Bihar or Odisha, both some scant few hundred kilometers distant and both having powerful ancient and modern cultural ties with that state, and continuous exchange of human and other links. Indeed, within Bengal, Muslim communities vary enormously in their social and emotional temper and how they perceive themselves situated within the larger society. Going down to even smaller scales, in my home district of North 24-Parganas, there are yet further regional differences,e .g. Muslim communities from say, Bamunmura, Berachampa, Bashirhat, and then Nyajhata.
Each form a very distinct community with drastically different ways of interacting with the larger society, and even in food habits. Urban Bengalis in Calcutta will not know or even understand any of these things or any of the subtle or major tensions that permeate the many relationships like a spiderweb. Tensions between the Pathan-descent, the mixed Pathan-Bengali, the true Bengali descent Muslim, between the displaced Hindus from East Pakistan, and some of these, the native Hindu, the native Bagdi, fishermen, the Saontal, the Oraon, the brick kilns the rice economy and so much more. To speak loftily about caste etc. is to ignore the reality of rural economies, the lives of human beings the stresses of change, and so much else. One has to live there, be a part of the landscape, be rooted in the earth of that place, and only then can one be aware of a small fraction of what is happening around one. I know my home, I can engage my fellows, we can eagerly communicate all that is of vital interest to us amongst us, but none of this can be communicated outside this area because the commonalities and modes are absent.
One example will be when the moderators disallow publication because they think this is absolutely irrelevant, thus preventing me from communicating a point to the outside world. Likewise, politicians at the state level in Bengal also shut up our mouths, deeming us completely irrelevant and local, insignificant mud bugs. Hence, we get the pandering to vote banks, larger groupings, made up from artificial local groups that otherwise do not have a life. I am showing you how such interest groups begin to coalesce.
To reduce the vitality of local politics to pompous pontifications of "caste" and pretend to knowledge one does not have is to congratulate oneself on one's folly. This is what politicians do, e.g. as the Congress party coming up absolutely blank in their pocket constituency of Amethi, nursed by the Sonia Gandhi family for decades.
@observer: A) I am afraid you are mixing communal violence or for that matter harmony between different religions with blatant acts of terrorism. The narrative here is totally different. If two TTP suicide bombers on someone else payroll carries out a terrorist activity, then by all accounts, it is a terrorist activity, a splinter group of TTP accepted the responsibility. It is not that a mob of two thousand fanatic people(read Muslims) attacked and killed the Christians. B)TTP called this in accordance with shariah, not any local Mufti, Maulvi or any other group and not a single person accepted this blatant interpretation of shariah. These terrorist acts are clearly designed and carried out with a two pronged strategy. To divide the people on religious, sectarian and ethnic lines, and to create an image worldwide that the country has no religious tolerance and the minorities are marginalized. People have not fallen prey to these terrorist acts, otherwise a civil war could have been erupted by now. The denizens of the country, off late seems to have realized the ulterior motives and have resisted in creating hatred, bigotry between different ethnic groups.
@FP We Indians celebrate 14th August as Independence day, happily by not regretting, loosing half of the country Pakistan and Bangladesh, rather rejecting cancerous infested areas, now breeding terrorists, jihadists, mujhadeens, otherwise India would have been called "epicenter of terrorism.
I am sorry, on behalf on Muslims in Pakistan those who have caused sufferings to our minorities.
Thanks for writing this, not just to give a prespective on minoroties in Pak but also to give hope! Peace will come to our country.
Here's a brainteaser for you guys:
Kashmir is claimed by Pakistan.
I am a Kashmiri Pandit.
Does that make me your brother?
Of course not. I am considered "Indian". Had I not been a KP but from the majority community from the valley, then of course I would be considered one!
Hypocrisy to its zenith.
@Ind Boss: Either claim it for yourself or give credit where it is due. Many Pakistanis here (probably some Indians too) may not know who authored it. For such readers:- the poet was Rabindranath Tagore.
@Zen.One:
. More than 75 Christians were slaughtered in Orissa state in 2008 alone.
A. And more than 85 were snuffed out in a matter of minutes in one incident alone.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/23/pakistan-church-bombings-christian-minority
B. And the incident was declared to be 'in accordance with Shariah' too.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/613812/ttp-condones-peshawar-church-attack/
C. Pakistan has a Christian population of 2.8 million. India has a Christian population of 24 million. I hope you can do the maths yourself.
Pakistan will not only survive it will get stronger...
Reading the many comments from pakistanis here, makes me proud that most people love and respect Pakistanis regardless of their faith, and happy to see Priyanka's blog..
@Shishya ravi: @Raj - USA: @observer: Communal violence is many a times widespread in India than any country of the world. Pakistan doesn't even comes close. More than 75 Christians were slaughtered in Orissa state in 2008 alone. There are numerous incidences of mob violence like Babri mosque, Golden temple, Gujrat massacre and hundreds of other gory incidences.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/oct/19/orissa-violence-india-christianity-hinduism
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/more.christians.killed.in.india.violence/21306.htm
@Pakistani:
I love Pakistani Hindus, simply they are great
Errr... Ahem...
Do you love them with Abduction, Rape and Forcible Conversion?
Or, Without?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/351900/kidnapping-for-ransom-abduction-cases-forced-conversions-fright-hindus/
http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-136-2013
@FP: we celebrate just because Jinna has taken half of pain out of India in the form of Pakistan/Bangladesh period
Loved the article. You are as Pakistani as I am. You belong here and you are one of US. May you live a long happy life.
Couldn't agree more with Sid... The caste system may not be rigid, but its still around in cities. It presence is definitely felt in the rural areas.
While one may share pakoras from a single plate, with a friend from another caste, marrying a girl or boy across castes is still out of question from many... especially marrying someone from a 'lower' caste.
@Raj- USA: "Caste system was there many years ago and it is not there now for over 30 years. ".
If you truly want to improve your country, your people you wouldnt lie like this. I am an Indian who has live in India for atleast 80% of my life. And even though i agree that caste system is on its way out, to make a statement like the one you've made is simply an act of lying to yourself.
We have come a long way in reducing discrimination, but we are yet to get to a stage where caste system has been completely eradicated.
Having studied enough neutral views it is clear that the situation of minorities in pakistan is deplorable and india treats it minorities better. But, dont go around believeing india is THERE. it is not...YET.
Great article young lady.
Is your uncle in India based in Bhopal or Indore area .there are lot of erstwhile Sindhi refugees based here and we have one Rajani family staying near my parental home ..just asking :)
Proud of you Rajaniii !! Good to know that you are now at ease with being born in Pakistan and thus being a Pakistani.Wish you all the happiness and success in life ! "It's better to forgive then to forget :p " sometimes and as such despite all the bad things you might have had to go through while in Pakistan , always remember that Pakistans where homes at !
@FP: dera Sir/Madam you have said that "why indians celebrate 15 August when you loose half of the country (now called Pakistan & Bangladest)" This only shows your ignorance of history and how badly brain washed are you. Please be apprised that Pakistan was not created out of any victory but by mutual consent of leaders of India and the British and that too by voting carried out in the country. This was a part of agreement to be set free from the the British rule and we both celebrate the day. So creation of Pakistan was no loss to India it was a cost paid by the subcontinent for freedom. We are still called India that is Hidostaan as named by The Muslims and have retained the entire heritage of millions of years. Regards.
Caste system was there many years ago and it is not there now for over 30 years. (@Raj-USA)
Fundamental to the practice of prevarication is it should be based on moderate enough a claim to make it appear convincing. That ingredient seems to be sadly missing in the quoted sentence, despite the laudable intentions where wish is greater than reality. However, allowance may need be made if the man hasn't left USA in last 30 years. Basic knowledge of India should say that if the commentator was correct entire system of education & governance would have collapsed in last 30 years since it is built on caste-based reservations (as high as 70% in some states) which has further strengthened caste as a social reality. Exceptions aren't rules & a few urban centres make not the Indian Society.
well done for this article priyanka.. keep it up
@Bakhtiyar Ghazi Khan:
Indians, please take notice. We Pakistanis are proud of all our people, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, or Sikh.
And here is the proof.
http://dawn.com/news/1052668/the-other-name-for-chak-7210-r
@Bakhtiyar Ghazi Khan:
Indians, please take notice. We Pakistanis are proud of all our people, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, or Sikh.
Ghazi Sahab, please find out the fate of the Grave of Dr Abdus Salam, Pakistani Physicist and Nobel Laureate.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C11%5C22%5Cstory22-11-2006pg3_1
I meant to say Tribune maintains the best traditions of liberal journalism. (Editors, kindly delete my other comment). Congratulations for giving all Pakistanis a voice. Were it that others were to do the same.
@Arindom: Yeah you forgot the word "imaginary friend" in your self concocted story
Interesting article. But please do not underplay the fact that minorities in pak are cornered, assaulted and forced to convert. This is the case of 99.9%. You probably fall in the 0.1% category. I respect all humans, but I just request my Muslim brothers to realize and understand that none in this universe can be as secular than Hindus. In India, the money from temples is collected and vast majority goes to funding masjid constrction, hajj, chrches. All we request our Muslim brothers in pak is to not forcibly convert minorities
Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high Where knowledge is free Where the world has not been broken up into fragments By narrow domestic walls Where words come out from the depth of truth Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way Into the dreary desert sand of dead habit Where the mind is led forward by thee Into ever-widening thought and action Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake.
@Sateesh Kumar: My brother, thanks for your sentiments. Good luck with your studies and God bless all Pakistanis. We Pakistanis love every Pakistani loyal to his nation and honest, hardworking person, regardless of faith, race, or ethnicity. We are proud of all Hindu Pakistanis, you are part of us forever, don't forget.
Nice piece, not going to sit well with our guests from across the border.
@Bakhtiyar Ghazi Khan: Are you a Pakistani first or a Muslem?
A very well-written and heartfelt Op-Ed. Great job.
I am a Pakistani Hindu. I am studying at Forman Christian College University, Lahore. In starting, when I came to Lahore and people heard my name the very first question they asked is: "Kya ap India se hain"? I do not blame them, this is not their fault because in Punjab there are few Hindu. While, in Sindh situation is different. The thing is I am Pakistani. I was born here and I will die here. No matter whatever situation is, I still love my country.
After I posted my previous comment, I was wondering about something and would appreciate if some Pakistani readers here would please comment objectively about the availability, quality, and popularity of anthropology and linguistics programs in Pakistan. Of course, I can Google but I'd rather hear from people than bots...Thank you, folks!
And i've lived in karachi for 18 years. Right from my birth till i was 18. Anybody hardly asked me whehter i'm from india or not. My name is also an evident hindu name.
You Don't like hindi much? oh really and how different is hindi from urdu. I keep listening from people all the time that i don't belong from gujarat, ahmedabad. Some say i'm from delhi and others from UP etc my accent being karachi wali urdu. In the interiors of rajasthan people might not understand hindi let alone urdu. so what's the big deal?
Indians, please take notice. We Pakistanis are proud of all our people, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, or Sikh. A Pakistani is a Pakistani always. No reason to be jealous, we love our Hindu Pakistani brothers and sisters. They are a part of us. No reason to abuse the writer because she disagrees with you. Pakistan zindabad.
Especially @: Raj - USA, Modified and other Indian trolls. Pakistanis are all equally Pakistani, regardless of religion. You are proved wrong time and again, yet still you persist in your delusions and hate-filled mindset. Shame on you people.
Hi Priyanka,
India is not just about Hindi (just about 40% of Indians have Hindi as mother Tongue) and you being Hindu will not make you an Indian.
However, you are a great citizen of Pakistan, hope Pakistan finds lot of ppl like you who would stay and fight for a better Pakistan. (Note being optimist and white-washing are 2 different things)
India will give political asylum to any human who needs it, but apart from that we have enough Hindus, Muslims, Christians etc etc
Regards!@Caresless Whispers: I trust a Pakistani Hindu/Christian/Sikh etc any day any time over a Muslim from across the border….
It would have been better if you said the following: I trust a Pakistani Hindu/Christian/Sikh just like i trust a pakistani muslim. Your above statement clearly shows your inherent bias against minorities.
Change the country to China and see the results here on ET.
WHAT A STUPID DISCUSSION................hindus in pakistan and muslims in India are both protected by strong laws. yet incidents happen in both countries due to the activities of fanatics in either countries..................it is an exception rather a rule............dont peep into your neighbors house and concentrate in keeping your house clean
you want to discuss shuddhi by the hindus let me remind you of the "direct action day" run by none other than muhammad ali jinnah
Hi Priyanka,
India is not just about Hindi (just about 40% of Indians have Hindi as mother Tongue) and you being Hindu will not make you an Indian.
However, you are a great citizen of Pakistan, hope Pakistan finds lot of ppl like you who would stay and fight for a better Pakistan. (Note being optimist and white-washing are 2 different things)
India will give political asylum to any human who needs it, but apart from that we have enough Hindus, Muslims, Christians etc etc
Regards!
As long as Allah and religion is part of public life, there will never ever be any peace. Mark these words and no matter how hard anyone tries, you simply can not achieve peace through religion. Your ancesotors have been trying, you have been trying and your future generations will continue to do so. Keep religion personal.
Hey , where did my comment go ??............will try again : Liked what you wrote and the way you wrote it. Also liked the fact that you portray yourself first as a Pakistani and then a Hindu.........the correct order of things.
I'd love to see the day in Pakistan where your faith, or lack of faith was a personal issue and nobody else's business, but I'm not holding my breath.
@Kamran (Berlin):" There are Hindu politicians, beaurocrats, law enforcement professionals, teachers in Pakistan."
How many non-muslims you see in any of Pakistan's sports teams, be it cricket, hockey or foot-ball? None. Sikhs are very athletic and you don't see them also representing Pakistan in any of their sports teams. Hindu Politicians ???? They are all from reserved seats and have to be nominated by political parties and most political parties have "Muslim" or "Islam" attached to their names. So is the party that is the ruling party in Pakistan. Even marriages of hindus and christians are not recognized by law in Pakistan. Ahmedis have to sign declaration that they are "Non-muslims". You can consider them non-muslims but why should they sing a declaration stating that they are non-muslims and have fake beliefs?
@Priyanka Rajani
Those people don’t speak my language and I don’t like Hindi much.
Ah! No problems.
Tell me, Do you KNOW, much Hindi?
Can you write a whole sentence or even your name in Hindi.
Well, I guessed as much.
@Dr Dang: thats not the case!urdu just sounds better than hindi!only an urdu speaker knows that!its a much more refined language
@Khan: No caste system in Pakistan, no untouchability practiced in Pakistan. You must be joking. Asia Bibi is in prison because she took some water from a well used by muslims and muslims claim she polluted the well. In many parts of Pakistan non-muclims can draw water even from running rivers only from the down streams and not from the upper sides so that the water is not polluted by non-muslims. Only muslims can draw water from the upper ends. There were several reports on this in ET itself. Google it. There is not one place in Pakistan that sells food items prepared by a hindu or christian as food prepared by non-muslim is considered "Haram" by muslims of Pakistan. The courts have banned mango juice manufactured by a ahmedi owned company because it is "Haram". In India you will find eateries and tea stalls owned by every religion and caste and all sections of the population eat there. People of every caste and religion own and operate them and everyone eats from there. Most of these roadside vendors prepare food at their homes and bring it to their stall for selling. No one cares what religion or caste they belong to. I can safely say that over 30 % of marriages these days are inter-caste marriages. Caste system was there many years ago and it is not there now for over 30 years. BJP's Modi himself is from a lower caste and many do not know it, because they simply do not care what caste a person belongs to.
The writer's comment about "Those people don’t speak my language and I don’t like Hindi much," is mind boggling to me. I can understand not feeling comfortable speaking a language or have a disliking for, say, Hindi movies, but to loathe a language that shares about 50% of its vocabulary with Urdu is a little startling, especially coming from a supposed graduate of the LUMS. I think she has gone a little too far to kowtow to her Pakistani countrymen. I wonder how many Hindi movies she watches, given the first para made a reference to Priyanka Chopra.
Also, just curious, what language does she speak, since she says "Those people don’t speak my language"?
Ms Priyanka
Reading your article made me 100 feet taller, your article is articulate and made me proud. You are a proud Pakistani and your religion is a secondary to your identity and thats what made me proud. God bless you and may you continue to bring good name to your country and family.
The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority. ~Ralph W. Sockman
@Kamran (Berlin): Really? Can a Non Muslim head the state institution called the Army?
You lost my attention after first paragraph.
this whole madness of nationalism started in europe, one race, one religion, one language, one people and one nation. after the ww2 they realised the folly of it all, and are becoming increasingly plural societies with equal rights and equal oppotunities for all.
Two Pakistani muslims say and do something good to a hindu, and that too one time only, and this becomes a piece fit for opinion column in a reputed Pakistani newspaper. The author has only two good experiences from the entire pakistani muslim society in all her lifetime. Even here, the two good muslim men did not follow up on their good deeds because the author does not say anything about her (her family's) interaction with those two good muslims. I recall an earlier blog two years ago by a Pakistani christian lady who claimed that christians are treated as equally as muslims in Pakistan and are safe there. She justified it with Jinnah's Aug. 11, 1947 speech. I haven't read anything from that lady since then and christians have seen a lot in this time. Asia Bibi is still in prison. Young hindu girls are still being kidnaped, raped, converted and,......... we all know what happens to them later. No one wants to look into their NADRA records. The small group of photo-op muslims who formed a human chain in support of christians just vanished. That was the reason I criticized that show. I also praised the lone Pathan who was guarding a Church for decades, the same way his father did. Yes, these two instances the author has quoted are true. But these are just two good gestures from two good muslims, from a muslim population of 180 million in 65 years. Every minority is victimized and eliminated in Pakistan, and they have nothing but fear that holds them together. This lady also has the cherish the two incidences in her lifetime that happened a long time ago, just to be somewhat optimistic and not become totally dejected.
@Priyanka Rajini, we are happy that you're happy in Pakistan. Contrary to your attitude towards alien languages, I love learning new languages. I love Hindi and I adore Urdu too. It is so enriching to know new languages. I find there is nothing to dislike about any language. It is only a medium of communication.
@FP why indians celebrate 15 August when you loose half of the country
When I look at the state of your country, I feel we do not celebrate enough.
@Raj Kafir Yes, Jinnah's vision was a separate country, a separate country not only for Muslims but minorities who were not free to follow their own religions. Coexist you say, well, does forcing minorities to convert to Hinduism and killing them if they don't sound like the religions coexisted?? They didn't... And before you ask that's what they did to minorities when they launched shuddi and sanghtan movements.
I am a Pakistani Hindu migrated to India a few years ago. I was happy in Pakistan but happier in India because the country is safe for my kids. I have never been discriminated here because of being Pakistani. No doubt India is treating us well.
@Priyanka Rajani (Not Chopra)
A. Those people don’t speak my language and I don’t like Hindi much. But that place was safe. My mother wasn’t worried I’d die every time I went out for chaat.
B. I only have one answer: the one thing that unites all Pakistanis today is the fear with which they live and contrary to what one might want to believe, no one is safe from that.
You have summed up the two countries so beautifully.
And since you do not like Hindi much, let me say it in Urdu, " Pakistan Mubarak". Peace.
@FP: We never claim that we won 1971 war but can you tell me why indians celebrate 15 August when you loose half of the country (now called Pakistan & Bangladest)
I speak not for all Indians here. Who lost what & to whom is a moot point: Looked at in another way those of the then "Pakistan-47" & those that migrated as Mohajirs lost India,a much bigger entity. They should mourn that. Pakistanis brought up on an identity definition of "that which is not-India" will not emotionally comprehend the times when Lahore was part of the same seamless Punjab just as Karachi was part of Bombay Presidency once & Dacca was more Bengali than Calcutta. Man who founded Pakistan was more of a Bombayite than a Karachian. For that generation was the loss of Delhi, Lucknow, Aligarh, Deoband, Hyderabad, Calcutta, Bombay in whose making his ancestors too had contributed, a matter of celebration? Certain arguments for point scoring are really worthless. As Ustaad Daman recited on Partition: Lali ankhian di pai dasdi ay//Roay toosi vi o roay asi vi aan (The redness of the eyes tells us//That both of us have wept)
@FP: Well yes, we do celebrate 15th August , fro one we got rid of British and 2nd we got rid of people with a particular mindset who thought they could not have lived with people of other religion. Imagine if those people were still living in India, it would have been a disaster. By the way your comment confirmed one thing for sure that Pakistan was never an entity until it got separated from India something which some of your Jihadi scholars are bent to prove that Pakistan came into the picture since the day or Mir Qasim.
@FP: We never claim that we won 1971 war but can you tell me why indians celebrate 15 August when you loose half of the country (now called Pakistan & Bangladest)
I need a dozen facepalms for this....Can someone lend me their hand????
Hope u use your brains next time you open your mouth...........
Its a big surprise Indians coming here and teaching us about equity whereas let alone people from the other religion they have casts in their own where a person from a "superior cast" would not even share food with or sit with the person from "lower cast" ... employers here even call thier hindu employees to even eat iftar with them so they dont feel lefft out .. you point out the discremination here but forget what you people have done to muslims, sikhs and christians in india. what about your own muslim stars living under the constant threat from bjp?
Wonderful article. A special salute to you Priyanka for being a true Pakistani. Pakistanis are one people regardless of religion, ethnicity, or race. God bless you.
@FP : "We never claim that we won 1971 war but can you tell me why indians celebrate 15 August when you loose half of the country (now called Pakistan & Bangladest)"
Removal of cancerous parts is worth celebrating. What do you celebrate on 14th August? Radicalism, sectarianism, Talibanisaton, terrorism, suicide bombers ?
I am thoroughly mystified with ET's moderation policy since my comment wasn't published and I thought it would provide some perspective as one minority to another.
Dear Writer, The importance given and the comments indicate that how unusual it is in Pakistan for a non muslim to be comfortable. And why people in Pakistan fall on you to make you feel special? There are millions of Muslims living in India and they are just another citizen. Please understand a language has nothing to do with nationality. There are millions here who are not comfortable with Hindi as they are with Bangla, Oriya, Khasi, Malyali, Tamil, Kannad and even with Urdu etc. Urdu is well spoken, read and appreciated with hundreds of newspapers, magazines and books published here. Regards.
Common you may not like the truth to be told so vociferously but the truth be told you are Sindhi Hindu like me is Chetichand even celebrated in Pakistan I was once searching the Pakistani Newspapers on that day not even single Newspaper mentioned it in India you will find us celebrating the festival in each state each district where ever we reside whether Gujarat or Maharashtra or Rajasthan where you visited and on that day you have a Public Holiday the Diwali of Sindhis get a mention in our city page articles for using Hatadis that's how you treat your citizens In my country you are an Indian first then off course whatever your identity is see the heights to which we have reached here right from top notch business,to being in Bollywood or even Politics we here have a voice but in your country you can't be a PM,President or CJI leave aside you guys entering army if this not a biased society then what is?
I trust a Pakistani Hindu/Christian/Sikh etc any day any time over a Muslim from across the border....
“the one thing that unites all Pakistanis today is the fear with which they live and contrary to what one might want to believe, no one is safe from that. All of us live with a combination of rage, confusion and helplessness but we survive, day in and day out.”
That's the problem... Love, companionship, comradeship, not fear should be the binding forces.
Is any non-Muslim allowed to become Prime Minister, President or defence chief of Pakistan, under the constitution of Pakistan?
@ET - ridiculous bias shown by the moderator, pls take note (and read the comments being allowed vs ones that aren't).
@Zog: @Kamran (Berlin):
What are you guys talking about suing in your broken judiciary.
You guys are seriously funny.
"the one thing that unites all Pakistanis today is the fear with which they live and contrary to what one might want to believe, no one is safe from that. All of us live with a combination of rage, confusion and helplessness but we survive, day in and day out."
COMPLETELY summed up my feelings about living in Pakistan. I think in the end what really gives us more "himmat" is searching for the positive (little it may seem, but it's definitely there!)Read it in the hope of finding substance :S What exactly do you want to say?
@Raj Kafir: "Priyanka, I met a Christian Pakistani from Hyderabad Sind. He told us that Pakistan won the 1971 war. I wonder if you also believe so. BTW my reply was if loosing half of the country meant a win; surely Pakistan won the war."
We never claim that we won 1971 war but can you tell me why indians celebrate 15 August when you loose half of the country (now called Pakistan & Bangladest)
@Arindom: This is terrible. I feel so bad for him. He should sue for discrimination. We are for one nation - with all Pakistani citizens equal under the law.
It used to be like that after partition, but then the bearded ones (who did not want Pakistan) got involved...
@Aringdom: Wrong. There are Hindu politicians, beaurocrats, law enforcement professionals, teachers in Pakistan. If that happened to your friend, your friend can literally sue that institution because access to a particular facility is not subject to religion but nationality. Even a Muslim of Indian or any other nationality wouldn't have access to nuclear plants of Pakistan. According to the constitution, there is no such law I know of that prevents minorities from access to state institutions of any kind.
@hero: My muslim friends in India are doing far better than me - most are General Managers of top companies or very rich businessmen!!
@Arindom. I think you are mixing places. This incident actually happened to a Pakistani Engineer studying for his Masters in Holland, who was not allowed to enter a Nuclear Facility while on a Technical Visit to the facility in a neighboring Country. The poor chap had to spend the whole time in the bus with the driver. The gentleman is now working at a very renowned institution in Holland.
You must be a rare specimen, indeed. Pl take care. I have a few friends here in deep inside Tamilnadu whose parents migrated from Larkhana. Good fellows. They are being taken care well by India.
ET again neglecting the majority and loves bollywood indians.
@hero: Well. You have leveled the score.
Best of luck with pakistan authoress and please visit us again. Rab rakha
to be frank i appreciate her ...own should work for the country he/she is born rather than looking for religious afiliations..
I hope Priyanka lives a good life in Pakistan and would have no regrets. I too like urdu better than hindi, honestly speaking.
On a separate note Priyanka... The Muslims belonging to different sects treat each other much worse than treating a non-Muslim in Pakistan. You'd still get lots of people in Pakistan treating you 'special' to make you feel that you are as much a Pakistani as anyone else; something that you noted yourself. This not a problem inherent to Pakistan. This is what we have suffered overtime and is a by product of the deliberate politicization of politics by certain quarters. Majority of Pakistanis don't subscribe to that. Things were not like this in the start. And the majority of us, including you, will gradually bring Pakistan out of this mess created by certain quarters. We are Pakistanis, we know what is wrong with us and we criticize it for the betterment of our own country and not to give fodder to the hawks across the border. Gradually, things will change. As you said, umeed pe duniya kaim hai.
despite the hardships and all the discriminations that our minorities have faced in the past, i always find them better human being to tackle the ordeals which makes me so proud of them.
i am extremely sorry for what we done to them.
May we have peace in all aspect of life in Pakistan amen
Great Article. Keep it up Dear Lady
@Arindom: I had a Muslim friend in India who told me... wait... he didnt... he was killed by Hindu zealots before he could tell me anything. Pot calling the kettle black eh.
I am always surprised to see when a Pakistani or a muslim has to appreciate or like a comment he/she always has to invoke Allah. I mean you can write in simple English your admiration for the content.
gud show. to born in a minority (either religious or ethnic) is no issue yet to think that u r a minority is the big issue. interestingly, the author associates herself with society and save from pride or prejudice. thanks for a good article
Priyanka, I met a Christian Pakistani from Hyderabad Sind. He told us that Pakistan won the 1971 war. I wonder if you also believe so. BTW my reply was if loosing half of the country meant a win; surely Pakistan won the war.
@Zog: Mr Jinnah's vision? Pakistan was created for Muslims only, otherwise all religions were co existing in British India.
@Arindom: Where it happened? Could you furnish more info?
I had tears in my eyes after reading this. Pakistan has let down its minorities as well as its secular and liberal populations but it's heartening that there are still people like Ms. Rajani who have not given up. Thank you so much for taking out the time to write this. And thanks ET for publishing this. So long as we have people like Priyanka Rajani who are still hopeful and so long as we have people like Malala Yousufzais who embody courage, there's still a flicker of hope left that Pak will not fail completely.
You article itself is the umeed that keeps all us Pakistanis going. Thanks you for the lovely words that capture the feelings of all Pakistanis.
God bless you and you make me proud to be a Pakistani.
You said in one place that you do not know Hindi - how then can you dislike something you do not know? Just to show your patriotism that you reject anything Indian?
Moderator Why didn't you publish my earlier comment? You love to publish daily articles on Narendra Modi but don't even want to publish a comment on horrible living conditions and constitutionally guaranteed 3rd class non citizenship of Pakistani Hindus? This author is whitewashing the whole issue. Her brave face should be appreciated and admired but why are you so scared and reluctant to display some honesty?!!
beautiful piece. I hope all other pakistanis can find the same optimism you have.
Well, its not just the television set you know. When you read articles, reports, news and most importantly reports about the biased attitude of pakistan's constitution towards minorities like Hindu, you can not help but believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with Pakistan as a nation. The gentleman you wrote about, I don't think individual like him are in majority in pakistan, infact I think they are rare in Pakistan otherwise I would have heard atleast some noise against those clauses/articles in pakistan's constitution which treat a daughter of Pakistan like a second class citizen. So, the point is I would ask the same question if I ever get a chance to interact with a Pakistani Hindu. Good Luck.
Priyanka Beti, you have reminded me of a beautiful Pakistan that was before it was hit by the maladies you have mentioned in your article.There was peace,fellow feeling,sense of responsibility and tolerance for diversity.Look what we have done to this beautiful country
"No nation should require its citizens to be so brave", was once said about Pakitsanis and I completely agree. Our bravery and courage should have been used for good, not to survive on a day to day just because of the mistakes of our selfish politicians. We need to unite against our corrupt bureaucracy and politicians and teach them a lessen so they think twice before making the next dumb decision.
There are two kinds of tragedies in life. One is not to get something you want, other is to get it.
Very nice.
Interesting read. Aren't you sister downplaying your dire situation? Sure everyone is worried about bomb blasts. Your situation is much worse. You are brave and attempting to show brave face.
It looks like you don't like to politicize your plight. But look, Pakistan never kept its side of the bargain about minorities and gives it 3rd class non-citizenship. Yet every day there are articles criticizing India supposedly not safeguarding the interests of minorities in India including in this most liberal pak newspaper.
Muslim supremacism - one set of rules for themselves and one for others.
Bless you for writing the piece Piyanka, very well written......
May Allah grant us Himmat. Ameen. Summa Ameen
Long Live Priyanka Rajani, Insha Allah peace will be restored in Pakistan soon.
I have a Pakistani Hindu friend - an engineer who tells me of his experiences. On a education-trip to a nuclear plant, he was refused entry as he was 'enemy' and he may steal secrets!! He had to wait outside in the college bus with the driver and forbade from even getting down!! He was also discouraged from selecting electronics and electrical engineering and was asked to stick to "safer" branches like civil and mechanical as he might grow up and steal hi-tech secrets!!
I love Pakistani Hindus, simply they are great
Appreciable! it is quite complex but interesting to read, it is small but worth taking article. Being a Hindu in Pakistan, i have different views may be because I didn't missed Pakistan by living here in Pakistan. I accept everyone is not safe here but i must tell you that Hindus in Sindh are special target for religious discrimination and tortures. According to Asian Rights commission: "In Sindh, Jihad is Continued to Convert Hindu girls to muslims"
Good wishes from fellow Pakistani. Does not matter to which religion you belong to. Everyone is Pakistani, that is of atmost importance.
Chears Peace
This article is a 'ramble' at best. What exactly are you trying to say here?
Priyanka thank you for penning this blog.
If Qaid E Azam's vision had been maintained, it would not have mattered who you were or your religion, you would have just been a Pakistani.
It makes me so angry to see what has become of Pakistan. The reality is no one is safe, not even muslims (for which this was supposed to be a safe haven) - if you are perceived to be from a different sect etc etc, you can be called an infidel and killed.
But, I am hopeful things will change for the better...
'Those people don’t speak my language and I don’t like Hindi much' -- And why is it may I ask ? Or you just want people in Pakistan know how much you love being a Pakistani & even a language from India is not worth liking. Not a smart thing to say.
For most of us, it doesn't matter if you are a hindu or muslim or a christian etc.. what matters is that you are a human and a good one, noble one. Not an Evil one.