Some of us find this unacceptable; we feel outraged; we pen condemnatory articles; we can lump it, thank you.
No, we are not wrong. Mobs cannot be allowed to mob; governments must govern and ministers shouldn’t be going around announcing bounties. Question is: can something be done?
Yes and no. Yes, because no situation is entirely hopeless. No, because those who can do something, or at least should be doing something, will not act and those of us who merely write about what should be have no means of influencing that which is.
There’s a Pakistan we want; there’s a Pakistan that is. The government and its ministers represent, or at least they think they do, the Pakistan that is because they think that the former, the Pakistan we want, is a wish-assumption and wishes don’t beget votes. So, in addition to any cowardice, there’s also much pragmatism at work in the government’s approach to handling mobs on issues of religion. A government that is generally unable to govern cannot be expected to confront mobs on an issue where it will find no support from any political quarter. The choice then becomes inevitable: allow the mobs to protest rather than stopping them from protesting.
One can argue that the government should nonetheless have ensured that the protestors didn’t turn violent. That was doable and only required basic administrative skills. Unfortunately, this line of reasoning also demands of this government a sense of responsibility that doesn’t exist. In fact, even diehard jiyalas concede the lack of responsibility, their only excuse being the argument that the Establishment and remnants of Deep State prevent this government from assuming responsibility.
Let’s look at the mix then: pragmatism or call it political expediency; an issue that appeals to the majority of Pakistanis and will be picked up by every group and party; a general sense of outrage; a public that is jahil for the most part; religio-political groups that look for any opportunity to challenge the state and create mayhem; rising anti-Americanism; general confusion and an inability to analyse events; administrative inefficiencies etcetera.
Result: the events of Thursday and Friday.
Take a look at Bilour. He condemns violent protests; stresses peaceful protests; offers a bounty for killing the filmmaker, announces that he would kill the blasphemer himself if only he could lay his hands on him; calls upon the Taliban and Al Qaeda brethren to join in this act of goodness and then goes on to condemn the sacking of a church in Mardan.
After Bilour’s conference, I asked — only half in jest — whether Bilour has a single-digit IQ or whether he was on drugs. This is definitely an IQ problem but it reflects the general confusion prevalent in this society. Bilour is not just appealing to his voter, he also reflects the people he represents.
There was a time we talked much about the crisis of state. We still do. Perhaps it’s time we divert our attention to society and see if we are now witnessing a crisis of society, a crisis that is also impacting the state and with it the ability of any government — even one more efficient than the current one — to do the right thing.
In the end it is about numbers. We can’t stress peoples’ power and then begin to qualify which group should be allowed to exercise that power and which is to be kept out. It’s called democracy.
Democracy is not about mobs and mobbing or, at least, it shouldn’t be. But might it be that we don’t possess that necessary ingredient which separates democracy from mobocracy, especially on issues that offer a tough test for pluralism? In fact, can a society infused with religion actually practice a democracy grounded in constitutionalism and pluralism?
Alexis de Tocqueville thought that “Among the laws that rule human societies there is one that seems more precise and clearer than all the others. In order that men remain civilised or become so, the art of associating must be developed and perfected among them in the same ratio as equality of conditions increases.”
That hasn’t happened here and I doubt it will under a democracy that increasingly represents, in terms of numbers, religious intolerance rather than pluralism. Things can be made to change but that would require leaders more ballsy than the current crop. And one always comes with a pair; you can’t teach them how to grow ‘em.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 27th, 2012.
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@ gp65
You should change your name to Direct Action Day.
@Lala Gee: Comparing Bhagat Singh with your railway minister. Only you can do it Lala Gee. Bhagat Singh's definition of a non-innocent police officer was a man who ordered lathi charge on unarmed satyagrahis killing many including Lala Lajpat Rai. Your definition of non-innocent is someone whose ideas you disagree with. The people who died were not given a choice but you and everyone else who claims to be offended had a choice to not watch the movie.
@Lala Gee: "What is your assessment of Indians “Emotional Intelligence” keeping in view the anti-Sikh riots of 1984 in which 5,000+ totally innocent Sikhs were brutally slaughtered in a single day, innumerable Sikh girls gang raped, and tens of thousands of their home were burnt. Lets not even consider the same treatment extended to the Muslim minority during Ayodhiya, Bombay, and Gujrat riots."
First some facts. There were no riots in Ayodhya. IF you are talking about Dec 1992/Jan 1993 riots in Mumbai, it was mostly Hindus dies and were killed by Muslims. Where Gujarat riots are concerned, they were triggered by Muslims not Hindus. It was Muslims that killed Hindu pilgrims including women and children. Not justifying the riots but it is important to document facts. 250 Hindus and 754 Muslims died in the riots and over 33 Hindus including a senior minister have been convicted for the riots. In other words, Indian society did not condone the riots despite the clearly horrendous trigger for the riots.
Now for the interpretation: So you justified kiling the movie maker because he made a movie that offended you. Is the trigger the same as what happened in Gujarat riots where 60 pilgrims were burnt alive in Godhra by Muslims? In any event in India people thought to be responsible for the riots are prosecuted. But instead of suggesting a similar prosecution, you are suggesting an escalation of violence through putting head money on the movie maker.
'"If you were in USA or Europe you would have been made to face a Judge.”
So. where are my rights to ‘freedom of speech’ and ‘freedom of expression’?
Incitement to murder is not protected speech.
@Brahma:
"This is what happens when you do not respect people of other religions. It germinates hatred."
Exactly!
@mahakaalchakra:
"@Lala Gee: From your posts on this issue, I feel that a large section of Muslims have very low EI (Emotional Intelligence),"
What is your assessment of Indians "Emotional Intelligence" keeping in view the anti-Sikh riots of 1984 in which 5,000+ totally innocent Sikhs were brutally slaughtered in a single day, innumerable Sikh girls gang raped, and tens of thousands of their home were burnt. Lets not even consider the same treatment extended to the Muslim minority during Ayodhiya, Bombay, and Gujrat riots.
"If you were in USA or Europe you would have been made to face a Judge."
So. where are my rights to 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom of expression'?
@Bill Maher (SFO):
Thank you for pointing to Ted Kaczynski. 'wikipedia.org' has an amazing read on him. I am certainly not in for a comparison with Ted Kaczynski in any way. Definitely he is of a different class altogether having exceptional talents which he, unfortunately, was unable to use for the benefit of the others. I am just a humble learner trying to understand the complexities of the world since last few decades only.
brilliant, absolutely brilliant! the whole thing. you just couldnt wish for a better ending! alas all this entertainment and bander is just folly of "wise" men.
@Lala Gee you may be wrong but at least you are honest. This is what can be called as Innocence of muslim.
@aysha:
Actually it was 1946 with the call of "Direct Action" day in Calcutta in August 1946 by Al Quade Aazam Jinnah in which almost 6 to 26 Thousands (Muslims columnist say 6 but Hindus columnists claim 26 thousands) died. It was the original start of a strange theory, called TWO-NATION Theory by which two people holding different views can not live together in a neighborhood or even in one nation.
@aysha: "crisis of society began in 1974 when the state initiated by way of legislation the process to bringing people’s faith in public domain."
People's faith was brought in public domain on Direct Action Day.
@aysha: Today, we have globalised everything other than wisdom. And that is one of the causes of terrorism and unrest in the world today. We accept food from every part of the world, we accept music from every part of the world, but when it comes to wisdom, people seem to shy away. If every child in the world learns a little about all cultures, about each other's values, the whole scenario will be different. Then one will not think, 'Only I will go to heaven, Everyone else will go to hell'. Lack of knowledge of this truth has caused so many problems.
Even if one part of the world remains ignorant of these shared values, the world will not be a safe place. It is not something we can do overnight, but it can be done through education and creating that sense of community, through inspiration and example. Religion is like the banana skin and spirituality is the banana. Spirituality, the values, are the same in every religion. The differences are superficial. It is good to have differences. Nurture the differences but also enliven spiritual values. Then together we can make the world joyous and safe. ---from Sri Sri
crisis of society began in 1974 when the state initiated by way of legislation the process to bring people’s faith in public domain. Those who claim to be muslims should be considered muslims. One can even go past that and consider a particular sect whatever one feels like, but to force the people of Pakistan in official documents to express hate towards a certain individual and declare him to be an imposter is where the damage has started. State should not encourage its citizens to express hostility towards one another, but to remain tolerant about one another’s faith. It all started with Ahmedis being declared non-muslims; shias are openly viewed as lesser mulims, the Wahabi’s as kind of acceptable muslims, and the list goes on. One’s faith cannot become part of public domain, that has to be clearly understood by people and the state. The legislation done in 1974 can be repealed, it is a piece of human effort not divine revelation.
'Alexis de Tocqueville thought that “Among the laws that rule human societies there is one that seems more precise and clearer than all the others. In order that men remain civilised or become so, the art of associating must be developed and perfected among them in the same ratio as equality of conditions increases.” That hasn’t happened here -'
The persistent error Pakistanis make is thinking of themselves as civilized. Increasingly civil law in Pakistan yields to arbitrary, even illegal, authority and religious sanctions. That's barbarism, not civility.
(Of course, moderating this comment out of existence ensures that this error will continue, un-recognized and un-debated.)
“In order that men remain civilised or become so, the art of associating must be developed and perfected among them in the same ratio as equality of conditions increases.”
The Kumbha Mela in India and Hujj in KSA, were attended by 30 million people nearly three million people each day without violent incidents, theft or robbery! March of millions to Washington is fairly tame gathering. So what is the reason for religious people of Pakistan and uncivilized behavior?
@Haris Chaudhry:
Actually, I know a guy called Venkata Sathya Pavana Kumara Sripathy. Take THAT for knowing an obscure name @Ejaz Haider!!
@Lala Gee: If you have an intellect you claim to have, fight idea with idea, Stop comparing apples and oranges.
"There’s a Pakistan we want; there’s a Pakistan that is" I beg to differ!! The "Pakistan you (people of Pakistan) wanted" and the "Pakistan that is" are the same..its not different.the only difference is that of degree.... Its just the younger version. You wanted a Islamic theocracy and you will get that..why to complain now??? everything comes with its positives and negatives..if you wanted to enjoy the fruits of pure Pakistan but you forgot sometimes a little bit of impurity (minorities) is good for the health of the nation!!!
Lamentation is not a strategy, Ejaz bhai.
@Haris Chaudhry: Dude get a life, like from all the what every read, the whole article, THIS is the conclusion or the jist that you get out of it...seriously broaden up your comprehension abilities. I am not defending Mr Ejaz, but seriously, i hate it when people come up with the most stupidest of reasons to put a writer down, ot makes you look like a t.v anchor with the least bit knowledge of Journalism, being on the pay-roll of a certain political party, and trying to act as if he knows it all, matters from civil-to-military-wars-international relations-human rights-religious injunctions-sports-etc etc. So please get a life please..
A very good piece Ejaz, show's the very real, factual, un-disputed face of what ahs become of Pakistan. It's as simple's as this, well there are people who would go on blaberring about what and how things are wrong in this country, and thats what they all would do, complicate an already bad situation, what is wrong with Pakistan, word-by-word you have presented in very simple and clear way. keep it up.
@Lala Gee: What is your IQ? The producer of this film is an Egyptian coptic christian, who was brutalized by the Muslim brotherhood. This is what happens when you do not respect people of other religions. It germinates hatred.
@Mirza Sensible post regarding use of religious teachings etc etc. Even Quran teaches not to insult others religious beliefs to avoid retaliation by them to hurt your religious feelings.
And not a word about the Egyptian TV channel which dubbed the movie into arabic and loaded it onto the Utube, If anyone has committed blasphemy it is this channel which propagated this movie in arab lands. The producer would have gone into the oblivion but for this suicidal act. Why no one wants to take it. Do u guys want to get excited and cause damage to yourself even at the cost of blaming your prophet.Pathetic.
I have written earlier about the mental health of society that needs treatment and healing but it did not make it past the moderator.
Dear Ejaz: Who is 'Alexis de Tocqueville' and why do you always feel the need to quote those that 99.999% of the population has not even heard of ..in your articles.
@Hafeez: "@Sudheer: I am sure you are also proud of politicians such as Baal Thackeray who does not even want Pakistani cricket team to play a single match in India, let alone what he thinks of the Indian muslims."
Please tell me what he thinks about Indian Muslims. I have not heard. Bal Thackeray is a yester year politician an no one takes him seriously anymore. His whole politics was around Mumbai for the Marathi manush (the MArathi man) not any religious issue. So he talked about Gujaratis getting too much importance in Mumbai in early years then south Indians and most recently he was complaining about Biharis. A bit like MQM who does not want anyone other than Mohajirs to make decisions in Karachi.
He does not want Pakistani team to play in Mumbai where 166 Indians were killed by Pakistanis and where the Pakistan government is making no effort to get them convicted. I am sure this heartburn is there within all Indians including Indian cricketers. That is why Gautam Gambhir dedicated the Wordl CUp victory in Mumbai to the people who died that day. It is not as though he had ever complained about Pakistan playing in Mumbai in the past.
@Hafeez: That is exactly what we mean by freedom of speech.
@Sudheer: I am sure you are also proud of politicians such as Baal Thackeray who does not even want Pakistani cricket team to play a single match in India, let alone what he thinks of the Indian muslims.
'No, because those who can do something, or at least should be doing something, will not act and those of us who merely write about what should be have no means of influencing that which is.'
Respectfully, Sir, this is where you are wrong. If you were bothered enough by it, you yourself would take up arms in a quest to change the status quo. That is the difference between a Taliban fighter, a mobbing protester and people like you and me; they will put their life on the line for their beliefs, while we will let better sense and IQ prevail.
"In fact, can a society infused with religion actually practice a democracy grounded in constitutionalism and pluralism?" The answer is obvious. Muslim societies like Pakistan want a theocratic and sharia governed state. Pakistan openly discriminates against non-Muslim minorities. For all things its constitution allows that! ZA Bhutto - an elected leader, made sure of that. Need one say the politically incorrect. Religious oriented societies are incompatible with democracy and tolerance for others not like them. Worse yet they are incapable of introspection and correction. It is a clash of values.
you are becoming very pessimistic ....what gives Ejaz Sahib...didnot expect this from you
@mahakaalchakra: Lala Gee lives in a parrallel universe. HE claims to be secular but expects the whole wordl to respect Islamic symbols of reverence. He claims that US universities routinely put Muslim students in jail if they say anything that is against Judaism. Also according to him most women in US roam around half naked. When you see the world from such a distorted lens you will obviouisly your conclusions are off the mark as well..
"it’s time we divert our attention to society and see if we are now witnessing a crisis of society, a crisis that is also impacting the state and with it the ability of any government — even one more efficient than the current one — to do the right thing."
I think you are on to something that is imp. All the talk of one politician coming in and changing the entire country is bogus. We have to change and improve ourselves otherwise we can never get out of this mess. We have Islamic teachings, our prophet's life, and other examples before us, yet we claim that one more politician is needed to improve us! What can anybody bring us that we do not already have?
@Lala Gee:
From your posts on this issue, I feel that a large section of Muslims have very low EI (Emotional Intelligence), despite your claims(?) of having higher than average IQ (Intelligence Quotient).
Emotional hurt or pleasure is just a reaction of your mind. I can take offence on Muslims calling Hindus Kafir and so many things but I am mature enough not to react violently.Please remember the right to feel offended is not exclusively reserved for the Muslims only
You are refusing to see the difference between a lawful action of the fellow who made the movie and your incitement to murder which is not in accordance with the law of either of the country. If you feel offended by the actions of others, you deal with it non-violently. If you want to ask for some rights you yourself do not extend to others, then thats intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy and ignoring your advice is the best thing mature person can do. If you were in USA or Europe you would have been made to face a Judge. I just hope you declare this intention of yours in your visa application when you visit abroad next time. And see the results.
Bilour is not just appealing to his voter, he also reflects the people he represents.
With due apologies to the liberal Pakistanis, the above sentence written by Mr. Ejaz is absolutely true. Mr.Bilour and his actions represent the collective psych of Pakistani society. Blame it on Jinnah or Zia, it doesn't matter anymore. To those who wants to disagree with me, I advise them to read the comments written by the well educated Pakistanis on the Pakistan's two most liberal English dailies Dawn and Express Tribune. You would find a large number of comments on the current issues as highly delusional, if not down right absurd. If this is the state of mind of English readers, you can easily guess what could be the world vision of a Urdu print and electronic media follower (there is no English electronic media in Pakistan), though, this is not to say that all those associated with vernacular media are illiterates or necessarily obscurantists. We in India too, have corrupt and evil politicians, perhaps worse of their kind in the world. A single minister's greed did cost Indian exchequer whopping $42 billions, which is more than Pakistan's entire national budget. In spite of this bitter truth, I am proud about India, because our people can live with politician like D.Raja (the accused), but would never tolerate the likes of Mr.Bilour, the bounty offerer.
Ejaz, I agree with every word yuo have written in this article. But you have committed a sin of ommission. No reference to the military/ISI which has had a huge role in radicalizing the population in the name of jihad and strategic depth. You have frequentlyin the past supported such positions of military/ISI and are yourself a contributor to the current position. The COAS speech on August 14 was a recognition that the Frankenstein they had created is now out of control. The sooner other stakeholders in the rage manufacturing factory also recognize that they are hurting the country they love the earlier the course correction can begin.
@Lala Gee: "I have proven much higher than average IQ and never used drugs in my entire life, but I still agree 100% with what Mr. Bilour said"
I believe you that you have very high IQ, but that does not make you a judge of complicated world issues.
Ted Kaczynski (Google it) has a very high IQ. He went to Harvard, UC Berkeley and finished a PhD in Mathematics by age of 24. Pls think again. ..pc
Matters are not that hopeless - it is amazing how quickly matters can be straightened by zardari asking for his resignation. You can get the pakistan you want only through incremental changes - like the people who protested in Benghazi against the militia - we need civil society to ask for his resignation
@Lala Gee: Proven by who? An online test that you retook until you got the result you wanted?
@Author:
"After Bilour’s conference, I asked — only half in jest — whether Bilour has a single-digit IQ or whether he was on drugs. This is definitely an IQ problem but it reflects the general confusion prevalent in this society."
I have proven much higher than average IQ and never used drugs in my entire life, but I still agree 100% with what Mr. Bilour said, despite being extremely critical of his performance as minster. Perhaps the problem lies somewhere else. I don't see much difference between bodily harm and mental torture. Both acts hurt, and the later hurts even more. So, if hurting innocent people is terrorism, then this filmmaker's act is certainly a worst form of terrorism. If a bounty can be put on OBL and others, then why not on this American terrorist whose sole purpose to make this movie was to hurt 1600 million Muslims. Or, you think Muslims are less human beings than Americans.
Riots happens in all countries but what lessons are learned from them. Goto any G20 meetings or Soccer games in Europe. Inspector Generals of Mumbai and Chennai were removed within a week of riots in respective provinces of India. Kudos to Chief Minister of those provinces who took such an action and sending message to senior police officers that riot prevention is also a part of their job. Because Buck stops at their desk. Its time that Chief Ministers in Pakistan emulate such a decisions to store confidence of Joe average, investors and global community.
What level of blame Pakistan has to accept in sending morphed picture of Muslim from Myanamar to people in India to incite riots? is this a freedom of speech or hate message?
"We have mobs that like to defeat the West by burning, pillaging and killing at home. We have cowardly governments that give carte blanche to such mobs. And, we have ministers that incite people to murder."
And you also have writers like Ejaz Haider, who are just Taliban in the guise of jounralists. Innit, Mr. Haider? Do you have the honesty to accept it?