Cleric’s daughter stripped, paraded naked in village

Published: September 22, 2012
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Five accused arrested on charges of kidnapping and attempted rape. PHOTO: FURSID/FILE

Five accused arrested on charges of kidnapping and attempted rape. PHOTO: FURSID/FILE

FAISALABAD: 

The daughter of a cleric was allegedly paraded nude in a village by young men seeking revenge for her brother’s ‘indiscretions’ on Wednesday in the area of Nawan Lahore police station. 

The three daughters of cleric Allah Ditta were returning home late Wednesday after shopping. Two of them were scheduled to be married on Thursday.

Upon their return, they were attacked by local feudal youths Asif, Saif, Sohna, Muhammad Elyas and Bhai Khan. Two of the girls escaped and hid in nearby houses while their sister, Rahila, was caught by the assailants.

The young men tore off her clothes and attempted to sexually assault her. They also paraded her before the entire village in her naked state and announced that whoever opposed them would face similar consequences.

“They attempted to kidnap and rape her but she offered resistance”, said cleric Ditta.

On the direction of Inspector General (IG) Police Punjab Hajji Habibur Rehman, District Police Officer Toba Tek Singh, Ahsan Younas and DSP Gojra Alam Sher Rajoka visited the village and termed the FIR correct after investigating further. On Thursday, the police arrested all five accused on charges of kidnapping and attempting to rape a young girl

Earlier, cleric Allah Ditta had appealed to the Punjab Chief Minister Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif and Inspector General (IG) Police Punjab to take notice of the incident and provide him justice.

Villager Muhammad Shafi told The Express Tribune that a few weeks ago one of the accused, Saif, had levelled allegations of teasing his sister against Riaz.

A village jury met and passed the verdict which stated that Riaz must leave the village for two years. Later, the elders of the village, terming the accusation baseless, asked Riaz not to leave. This infuriated the youths, who took it upon themselves to teach Riaz and his father a lesson.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 22nd, 2012.

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Reader Comments (94)

  • Jpy
    Sep 22, 2012 - 12:40PM

    You reap what you sow. These mullas should first teach peace & love for with all human beings irrespective of religion. Instead they are preaching terror and intolerance towards other religions

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  • Sep 22, 2012 - 12:46PM

    Welcome back to the dark age!!!Recommend

  • Amna Ali
    Sep 22, 2012 - 12:56PM

    these people are worst than savages! its only the matter of couple of days, watch them freely roam the streets in no time. Such events as well as the worsening condition of Pakistan has taught me the meaning of hopelessness. :(

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  • fawad
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:04PM

    @jpy u reap what u sow are u out of ur mind wat did the girl ever do to anyone to deserve this no one deserves to be treated the way this poor girl has been treated

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  • The Preacher Guy
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:15PM

    it happened in my area.
    here so many things go unnoticed.
    some incidents happened in past but this is the worst.
    both parties were at false but justice should not be taken itno one’s own hands

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  • Sana Fatima
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:26PM

    wow wat a stage of mind we have reached …where the victim is being blamed….@jpy u need to get some life before u comment!!! the mullahs have never actually preached or spread hatred…first recognize who are hate mongers…they are people like terry jones and bacile not mullahs!!!!Recommend

  • Sam
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:28PM

    it was her brother’s fault. what was the point of ruining her life??? she didn’t even do anything :/

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  • Dunn Loring
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:29PM

    @fawad are you out of your mind. what did the ambasador of america in libya do to deserve death which no muslim leader seem to condemn, Infact there is joy all over the uslim world for such a cowardly act.

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  • Sana
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:42PM

    This is incredibly hopeless. Sometimes I wonder if it’s due to lack of awareness and illiteracy in the regions, but then if you start thinking over it, no, it’s not illiteracy that makes them do this. I’ve met very enlightened people at times, who haven’t even seen the face of schools.

    It’s these feudal lords and their hopeless children thinking they own the land. These elites are ruining the innocent. We need a french revolution desperately.

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  • Fugitive
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:43PM

    @fawad:
    It’s not about the girl, it’s about mullahs; read carefully!

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  • Sikandar Ali
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:43PM

    Media should feel some reponsibility for such incidents, instand of ornamenting n spicying such headlines, they are bound to heal the wound…Pakistan is not litrate enough, people here are merely living under previlaged and deprived state of life, no we are expecting any megnificency from them, therefore Media should treat them likewise, inspite of this Dawn is responsing properly…ET should stop prepetuating non-sense material…

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  • anwar
    Sep 22, 2012 - 1:52PM

    “whatever you sow so shall you reap” is correct.. AND I ADD “Its an ill wind that is sweeping this fair land and its blowing no body any good”

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  • Was A Pakistani
    Sep 22, 2012 - 2:04PM

    This insanity has been brewed by the mullahs and fully supported by people or else it would never happen.

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  • Was A Pakistani
    Sep 22, 2012 - 2:06PM

    @anwar:
    The assertion Pakistan is a fairland is injustice to the world. I cant use the words but it no fair land. It is soaked in blood of people and with cries of women who have been desecrated in this land of patriachs! Pakistan is the worst thing that happened to the region.

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  • fz
    Sep 22, 2012 - 2:27PM

    Sickest society I am aware of todate pakistan.

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  • zahid
    Sep 22, 2012 - 2:43PM

    shameful psychos

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  • Kisan
    Sep 22, 2012 - 2:48PM

    And this country wants to teach morality to the world and make blasphemy laws for everyone to follow? Doctor first heal thyself of thine sickness…

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  • Dr Khan
    Sep 22, 2012 - 2:59PM

    @Jpy:

    You are an intolerant cruel person if u think the innocent girl deserved that! And what was her fathers fault? Disgusted by ur comment, disgusted by the justification of something so cruel. Stop generalizing & learn humanity

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  • Sep 22, 2012 - 3:16PM

    so if he is a cleric we will say its great that his daughter got paraded .. oh my god u liberals like seriously … grow up

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  • Parvez
    Sep 22, 2012 - 3:35PM

    Just would be served if the 5 guys were punished within seven days of the incident. This will not happen and Pakistan will be rightly termed a failing state. The judiciary and law enforcers are to be blamed for much of our troubles.

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  • Sana Fatima
    Sep 22, 2012 - 3:52PM

    @ovais:
    yes they are actually regarding the father of the girl as culprit just because their mentality has been set against Pakistan and Islam…and they wud never notice flaws in the west…slave minded people they areRecommend

  • Sana Fatima
    Sep 22, 2012 - 3:54PM

    @Kisan:
    yes if societies having hate mongers like terry jones and bacile can set up holocast laws why cant we set a blasphemy laws??Recommend

  • Tina
    Sep 22, 2012 - 4:13PM

    @Dunn Loring:
    None of the muslims are happy for what happened to the U.S diplomats in Libya. It was an act to malign the image of muslims themselves. We condemn it as much as you all do. It is against the teachings and practices of Islam to punish the innocent people for someone else’s immoral acts. One should never forget that such incident happened more due to because Libya’s state of unrest and absence of law and order for almost 1 and a half years. PEACE.

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  • Renegade
    Sep 22, 2012 - 4:14PM

    I disagree with the people saying ” Sow what you reap”. its totally insane.
    What the poor girl has gotta to do with what has happened to her ….

    We shouldn’t be blaming each other but rather look to find a solution for what is happening to us and our society on a whole.

    Unless the youth do not make an effort to bring about a change … I am afraid, we as a nation are doomed.

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  • lib
    Sep 22, 2012 - 4:33PM

    @jpy you r mentally sick. You should get yourself tested for insanity

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  • DevilHunterX
    Sep 22, 2012 - 4:36PM

    Isn’t this against Islam? No Blasphemy case to be registered?

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  • lib
    Sep 22, 2012 - 4:40PM

    @Dun Loring. Mate I think ur posting a comment in wrong op-ed and unrelated. How come ur BS relates to this incident. Your not just barking up the wrong tree but you are clearly in the wrong woods.

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  • Sep 22, 2012 - 5:07PM

    Sorry state of affairs. Hope the criminals will get examplary punishment.

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  • Sikandar Ali
    Sep 22, 2012 - 5:24PM

    We have devilous tribal system enrolling whole Pakistan in it furious clunch, Mistake done by someOne else and pays some other One…Most of us feel it a symbol of intigrity and honour for themselves, except having any humanistic intitution through which they would ever measure putting themselves on victims` place..
    The only thing which is lacking and promoting such problems rising each day is lack of Governamental writ..

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  • Haven't lost my sanity....
    Sep 22, 2012 - 5:36PM

    Sana Khawan-e-Taqdees-e-Mashriq Kahan Hein?

    As if yesterday’s public display of barbarism wasn’t enough!

    What a shame!

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  • suraj
    Sep 22, 2012 - 5:38PM

    Victimizing innocents and weak is in our psyche; whatever may be the instigating factors..

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  • Sep 22, 2012 - 5:54PM

    The school books teach hatred, mullahs teach hatred, the majority sect hates others and kill them. Many churches, temples were destroyed or burnt. If there is no blasphemy in all these actions, why blasphemy exist only in the matter of prophet or his books

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  • Aslam
    Sep 22, 2012 - 5:58PM

    Where is the supreme court, will it order to finalize the case in one week? If not then CJ and all judges are corrupt and shameless.

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  • Sep 22, 2012 - 6:27PM

    Kangaroo courts must be stopped. Will SC CJ take suo moto? I think not!

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  • Sep 22, 2012 - 6:42PM

    Disgusting Recommend

  • Lose Dhoti
    Sep 22, 2012 - 7:10PM

    Why would they stop? Nothing has happened to those who indulged in this practice in past………

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  • bill carr
    Sep 22, 2012 - 7:48PM

    @fawad: ET AL
    I think he refers to the mullahs etc not to the girl. How can it be a religion of peace etc when the very people who preach to the faithful seem for the most part to incite hatred and violence?
    Of course the usual excuse is that this is tribal not Islamic but it is strange that when Islam has such powerful influence on people it has not irradicated such behaviour.Recommend

  • kkmar
    Sep 22, 2012 - 7:50PM

    Islam is a religion of peace. Whatever real muslims do is right. If the five men are real Allah fearing, Prophet (pbuh) fearing muslims, then what they did was right.

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  • Yasir
    Sep 22, 2012 - 7:56PM

    Happens only in Pakistan.( the land of pure)Recommend

  • naeem khan Manhattan,Ks
    Sep 22, 2012 - 7:57PM

    This is not the first time that a young woman is paraded naked and the citizens just stood there and did not take any action. Now is the time to make sever and specific laws for parading women or men naked in the public for humiliation purposes and the punishment should be mandatory and not less then 25years in jail with no chance of parole.We are becoming the butt of jokes around the world and are considered a lawless country in the community of world countries.

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  • It Is (still) Economy Stupid
    Sep 22, 2012 - 8:36PM

    The logic of guilty by association (guilty because associated with an accused) should not apply. The same logic was applied for killing of Diplomat in Libya, all the demonstrations for movie and burning of US flag.

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  • Ateek UrRehman
    Sep 22, 2012 - 8:41PM

    Very very sad and disappointing news it is. Whatever may be the issue it had to go through the law, proper law not a jirga or a panchayat. And the torture, the assault on women is disheartening. There is no justification for cruelty and harrasment of women no matter daughter of a mullah or anybody else. I hope the culprits involved in the sick act meet the due punishment according to the law.

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  • you know who
    Sep 22, 2012 - 8:42PM

    if we dont educate our children and neglect upbringing and value placing in families this is what happens.

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  • Feroz
    Sep 22, 2012 - 8:51PM

    Very shameful indeed !

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  • Umar Nisar
    Sep 22, 2012 - 9:12PM

    after reading a bunch of comments here my humble conclusion is:
    mullahs=extremists
    liberals=extremists
    mullahs=liberals

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  • vijayakumar
    Sep 22, 2012 - 9:22PM

    It will take another 100 years for Pak to respect women.

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  • Mirza
    Sep 22, 2012 - 9:46PM

    Punjab is the best governed province in Pakistan and perhaps in the world. If you don’t believe me ask PML-N and Sharif brothers.

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  • Cautious
    Sep 22, 2012 - 9:58PM

    So where are the police when something like this happens — and why are the villagers standing around peeping rather than acting responsibility and stopping this abuse. When someone can commit a crime like this knowing that justice will turn a blind eye it says something about your country – your people – your set of morals/ethics. Maybe your Minister in Charge of Railroads should place a bounty of these thugs?

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  • Muhammad Usman
    Sep 22, 2012 - 9:58PM

    Courts have failed in justice. All 5 of them should be killed in fake encounter.

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  • Poleturtle
    Sep 22, 2012 - 10:06PM

    @Dunn Loring:

    This was the same Ambassador who arranged all the revolt against Gaddafi and then sat beside the maimed and mutilated body of Gaddafi with the Thumbs up ! This was Gods justice when he was killed in the same manner as Gaddafi. Men should fear God !Recommend

  • Poleturtle
    Sep 22, 2012 - 10:10PM

    What is the point in making such fuss ! In a country with 160 million people this is normal. Worse things take place everyday in USA and the west. No body creates a scene. A few insane people acted against all human norms and shall be punished. Who knows what wrong the Cleric had done to deserve this !Recommend

  • El Cid
    Sep 22, 2012 - 10:38PM

    @Dunn Loring: “what did the ambasador of america in libya do to deserve death which no muslim leader seem to condemn”

    Your red herring is out of context. Nevertheless the answer is that the ambassador personally carried, supplied, and armed the rebels, coordinated the bombing of Libya, and ordered the pursuit and murder of Gaddafi. Thousands of others including women an children were also killed. A modern Muslim welfare state was reduced to the stone age. The US Secretary of State has categorically acknowledged this victory and gleefully announced Qaddafi’s gruesome assassination: “We came, we saw, he died…”.
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  • Azi
    Sep 22, 2012 - 10:52PM

    So much for these staunch Muslims who cant stand an insult on religion but can do every thing that teaches against their actions. Its a failed state, no matter what you say.

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  • Sep 22, 2012 - 10:57PM

    strong textSavages the lot of them

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  • El Cid
    Sep 22, 2012 - 11:14PM

    @vijayakumar: “It will take another 100 years for Pak to respect women”.

    Non-sequitur. Does not follow. Poor logic. In fact, propaganda aside women and girls, including female infants and unborn, are significantly safer, protected, and respected in Pakistan in comparison with India, where their condition is beyond abysmal. And the US where mistreatment, domestic violence, and rape is higher. [UN Report].

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  • Sid
    Sep 22, 2012 - 11:15PM

    @Jpy: Your comments are irrelevant and baseed on hate.You could have said at least a word against the feudal system still prevalant in Pakistan. If you are among one of those then it is a different story.

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  • Cautious
    Sep 22, 2012 - 11:27PM

    @Poleturtle

    Who knows what wrong the Cleric had
    done to deserve this !

    It’s attitude like yours which create the atmosphere for crimes like this. Who cares what the Cleric did or did not do — what gives these thugs the right to rape and degrade his daughter? Doesn’t she have rights? Buy a calendar – it’s the 21 century I suggest you join it.

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  • El Cid
    Sep 22, 2012 - 11:56PM

    @Fugitive: “It’s not about the girl, it’s about mullahs; read carefully!”

    I did. Carefully enough. To me it seems that a father distraught at the attack on his three daughters, with the attempted rape and humiliation of one of them, went to the local police but did not get justice due to the high social status of the assailants.

    Next he, a Mullah—pious man of God—controlled his pain and issuing anger… Allah Ditta in his helplessness appealed to the Punjab Chief Minister Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif and Inspector General (IG) Police Punjab to take notice of the incident and provide him justice. In this self control and going through peaceful channels he demonstrated the highest qualities of a Muslim…the major Jihad of subduing anger and ego—not seeking revenge, but justice.

    So, how is this about Mullahs? Now you read carefully and reflect on what you read, before you accuse an innocent victim and his calling.

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  • El Cid
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:11AM

    @Was A Pakistani: “This insanity has been brewed by the mullahs…”

    How…?
    In what manner?

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  • meekal a ahmed
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:17AM

    What sick barbarians we are.

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  • pat
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:22AM

    Insanity. The whole country has become infested with depravity.

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  • David Salmon
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:38AM

    @Sana Fatima:
    imho, all are extremist “mullahs” who endorse the killing of innocents by acts of terror and/or who seek to force the government to adopt and enforce their personal codes/interpretation of Sharia as compulsory law of the land. Whether the father of the abused woman in question fits this personal definition of an extremist mullah, I have no idea. Perhaps you do?

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  • ABKhan
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:48AM

    @Jpy:
    It simply shows your ignorance and the dark age you are living in ……. No one has a right to strip anyone either its a daughter of a cleric or of a dancer ……… I am sick of pseudo liberals like you!!!

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  • El Cid
    Sep 23, 2012 - 1:18AM

    @Fugitive: “It’s not about the girl, it’s about mullahs; read carefully!”

    I did. Carefully enough. To me it seems that a father distraught at the attack on his three daughters, with the attempted rape and humiliation of one of them, went to the local police but did not get justice due to the status of the assailants.

    Next he, Allah Ditta in his helplessness, appealed to the Punjab Chief Minister Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif and Inspector General (IG) Police Punjab to take notice of the incident and provide him justice. In this self control and going through peaceful channels he demonstrated the highest qualities of self control, subduing anger and ego—not seeking revenge, but justice.

    So, how is this about Mullahs?

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  • Nobody
    Sep 23, 2012 - 3:14AM

    @vijayakumar:
    Very true my friend. Don’t forget to add Afghanistan, Bangladesh, India, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc to the list. Damn shame.

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  • Javed
    Sep 23, 2012 - 3:19AM

    @Tina:
    Don’t lie please

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  • FJ
    Sep 23, 2012 - 3:20AM

    Faisalabad! …yet again..uff

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  • Ilyad
    Sep 23, 2012 - 4:21AM

    As sad as this news is, what is more disturbing is that the cleric had to appeal to the CM and the IG to get the wheels of justice moving. What a shame.

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  • Saima Cheema
    Sep 23, 2012 - 4:33AM

    What is wrong with the world?

    Why do people treat their fellow humans like this? She could be anyone’s daughter.

    I can’t even cry anymore, because I’m so used to hearing stories like this these days, God help us.

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  • tattle-tale
    Sep 23, 2012 - 6:54AM

    @Sana Fatima:
    You can pass laws for your own country, but you cannot pass laws which apply to other countries. I think Pakistan has blasphemy laws, and some countries have holocaust denial laws, and some countries have hate speech laws. The USA has none of those laws.

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  • Imran
    Sep 23, 2012 - 7:20AM

    All Muslims need to understand the teachings of Islam and what is embodied in the holy Quran. Islam teaches great respect for women, and the Quran commands Muslims to be just in all cases. Islam also teaches individual responsibility and that each of us will be accountable for our own actions in the hereafter. Whatever any cleric may have done, and this cleric or his son may be accused of, there is absolutely no justification for dishonoring an innocent girl or woman. This is the fundamental issue here, and a crime in itself.

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  • tattle-tale
    Sep 23, 2012 - 7:46AM

    @kkmar: You say ” If the five men are real Allah fearing, Prophet (pbuh) fearing muslims, then what they did was right.”
    Are you really saying that it is OK for ‘true muslims’ to humiliate and attempt to rape innocent girls? Does that mean that you would have no objections to ‘true believers’ raping your own child, sister, mother, or grandmother as long as they fear Allah? Why dont you require that all the members in your family and yourself wear a sign saying ‘you can parade me naked, kidnap me, attack me, beat me, rape me, and kill me if you truly believe in Allah”?
    Either you are crazy, immoral, and repugnant or I am misunderstanding you. No religion or sane person says that you can attack the innocent as long as you have the correct faith.Recommend

  • Couper
    Sep 23, 2012 - 8:02AM

    If the crime against this girl hadn’t been so public, she herself might have been accused of illicit behaviour and paid the ultimate price.

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  • tattle-tale
    Sep 23, 2012 - 8:05AM

    @Dunn Loring:
    You are clearly out of your mind, willfully blind, and ignorant. You say, “there is joy all over the Muslim world” for killing the ambassador when all the facts show there is anger and denunciation from every Muslim country all over the world, and you just choose to ignore it. You are an extremist who takes the cowardly acts of a few extremists and condemns billions of innocents for these acts. So, you are no different from these 5 people who would rape an innocent girl for the wrongful acts of others.Recommend

  • Shahid Butt
    Sep 23, 2012 - 8:49AM

    Is this the time that people should arm themselves because Govt and local police cannot help?
    If answer is yes, then arms should be legalized In USA, any body can buy GUN legally.if he wants .and they can get the permit to carry it as concealed weapon.

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  • Farahi
    Sep 23, 2012 - 9:15AM

    For those of you who said you reap what you sow, you do realize you just condoned the rape of an innocent girl. I would take mullahs over such type of mentality any day of the year.

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  • Murthy
    Sep 23, 2012 - 11:26AM

    Are women in Pakistan play things that anybody can do anything with? What has a young girl got to do with the alleged indiscretions of her brother. Obsession with religion and the so called tradition and honor is taking Pakistan down a glacier slope!

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  • Rehana Rahman
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:06PM

    @Ovais why do you think anyone who is against mullahs is a liberal?.You are also doing the same thing like this person did that is placing everyone in one category and condemning all liberals for the stupid and totally insensitive remark of one person.

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  • BE
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:18PM

    @Poleturtle
    “What is the point in making such fuss ! In a country with 160 million people this is normal. Worse things take place everyday in USA and the west.”

    Maybe worse things take place everyday in USA and the west – but muslim girls are not paraded naked through the streets. Not yet.

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  • Pakistan One
    Sep 23, 2012 - 12:37PM

    This reminds me of Phoolan Devi. Really sad.

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  • alicia
    Sep 23, 2012 - 9:19PM

    You all are disgusting.

    What does this have to do with Mullah or liberal. A poor women’s life was ruined and she probably would not get justice. All you guys can think about is Libya and Islam vs. the rest of the world. All you are psychos.

    Pakistanis are just sick. These incidents of parading women naked are becoming so common; all from the nation that claims to be the savior of morals. What have any of you guys done to stop such incidents? Lets see nothing. because in the west according to some pseudo statistics a women is raped every mili-second or whatever so as long as Pakistan does not surpass this record our keyboard warriors are going to remain happy.

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  • alicia
    Sep 23, 2012 - 9:21PM

    @El cid
    Don’t drag the West into this. I have lived in both places and I know women are treated way better in any Western country compared to Pakistan.

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  • khalsa
    Sep 23, 2012 - 10:16PM

    @Muhammad Usman:
    this happen with christian and hindu in pakistan then these 5 should be rewarded. if happening with muslim then killed in encounter? though its a heinous crime but god is merciful and impartial to all living beings and not just one mentality group

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  • Fahim
    Sep 24, 2012 - 11:21AM

    This is shameful act and those people should be shot on sight

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  • Chaloo ji
    Sep 24, 2012 - 12:24PM

    To all the Indian trolls. An incident in one small village part of Pakistan does not mean the whole country has this problem. You guys should know better with similar stories in India. Or u just one agenda on your mind….. Criticize Pakistan no matter what. Pathetic.

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  • Khan Jr
    Sep 24, 2012 - 9:29PM

    Feudals in central Punjab? In Faisalabad? Since when? Apparently according to the urban press any hooligan living outside the confines of the major cities has to be a ‘feudal’ and not simply a rural based person with a criminal disposition.

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  • Shane
    Sep 25, 2012 - 3:21AM

    This totally justifies that there is no hope left in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Arslan
    Sep 25, 2012 - 7:38PM

    Parading people in public is becoming a norm in rural punjab. I wonder what the great chief minister has done about this issue?

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  • vini
    Sep 30, 2012 - 12:37PM

    Every-time something like this happens you all say this is not Islam. Can you please tell if this is not Islam then what is Islam, why is all such things happens in Pakistan with such regularity. Why don’t we hear this happened in US, UK or for that matter in India.

    Why is it every other day someone needs to defend Islam. I am not tiring to blame anyone but if so much is going wrong in this country not everything can be blamed to foreign hand.

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  • El Cid
    Oct 1, 2012 - 10:05PM

    @kkmar: “Islam is a religion of peace. Whatever real muslims do is right. If the five men are real Allah fearing, Prophet (pbuh) fearing muslims, then what they did was right.”
    .

    I am unable to grasp your logic. First you set a premise: “Islam is a religion of peace”. Than you abandoned it and set another one: “Whatever real Muslims do is right.” Than you set a hypothesis: “that if the five men were real Muslims…what they did was right”.

    What they did—as was made amply clear in the article—was rape, attempted rape, assault, kidnap and molest. But you did not present any evidence to either prove or refute your hypothesis. Rather you made an unsubstantiated inane oblique statement–an ugly evil innuendo, left it hanging out there—suggestive of a puerile demented attempt to malign, smear Muslims, their religion Islam, and what they respect and hold most sacred and dear—in the most vile and abominable manner with malice aforethought.

    As for the crazy scatter-brained logic pattern…is it congenital, inherited, taught at school where you live, or was it at home that you learned it?

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  • A non muslim girl
    Oct 4, 2012 - 2:31PM

    Well whatever happen is really something shameful. Since I was not able to understand why do people of a particular community behave like this, I thought to do a search and found following link.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Don’t know how much they have correctly stated but thing is that they have supported their each and every argument with proper lines written.

    Any thoughts..!!!

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  • ABBAS
    Oct 4, 2012 - 5:42PM

    @Jpy:
    Dear,

    You are totally misguided because the Mullas not insist any one to choice a wrong Path.
    In subcontinent (India & Pakistan) these Feudal Lards are from Centuries.
    Near to these No One is human except their own.
    They are worse than a wild wolf.
    We have No need to go extreme.
    We are living in Global Village and every one have sense awareness.
    What they do
    Which way they go
    Changing is only from Allah Subhantallah
    In Holly Quran
    “You are just Messenger I show them Right Path I can change their Hearts”.

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  • Aahjiz BayNawa
    Oct 7, 2012 - 5:23PM

    Fuedalism and elitism is the cause. Eliminate feudlism.

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  • El Cid
    Oct 9, 2012 - 11:36AM

    @alicia: “Don’t drag the West into this. I have lived in both places and I know women are treated way better in any Western country compared to Pakistan.”
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    I am not dragging any one in to any thing. Only stating facts. Women are a commodity in the West. A spittoon for men to use, abuse, and discard—if divorce, cohabitation in sin, domestic and child abuse statistics are to go by.

    The first freshman class in any college or university is always about rape, as is the initial orientation in the work place. Often I had to escort my professor, a PhD, to her car, after late Labs when campus security was not immediately available…her colleague and friend had been raped and murdered the previous semester. Her carriage, knowledge, competence, and confidence belied the terror that besieged her after evenings set in.

    The female cleavage, the crouch, the butt and the breast are used to sell most other commodities in the West, even cars and trucks. No wonder augmentation of the breast to grotesque proportions is the preferred plastic surgery and staring at these useless sterile appendages, objects of extreme ogling for men…who can’t tell the difference between the authentic and the forgery, plastic from flesh, and could care less.

    If numbers are your forte than 90,000 women from 7 to 70years old were raped in the US in 2011. And 19,000 female military personnel including officers were raped, their cases not prosecuted. One woman who insisted on pushing the case had her torn panties soiled with evidence DNA returned to her with her dis-honorable discharge papers. I could go on, but don’t want to—am getting sick just relating this—except to say that the West needs not to be dragged into it, it has always been in there, way ahead of the East. Because the female is a sexual object in the West, little more.

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