India wants a stable, peaceful and progressive Pakistan: Krishna
During his visit to Lahore on the last day of his diplomatic tour, Krishna said that India wants a stable, peaceful and progressive Pakistan as its neighbour.
Speaking to the media at the Allama Iqbal International Airport, the Indian foreign minister said that the Indian Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, and the people of India would like to see a stable and peaceful Pakistan as it “means quite a bit to the entire region.”
Speaking about his Islamabad visit, Krishna said that he had discussions with President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf. “After seven years, we had a joint commission meeting of India and Pakistan, with the Pakistani foreign minister, Hina Rabbani Khar … it was a very fruitful visit.”
“We were able to make few decisions, we signed the visa liberalisation pact and a cultural pact – all this is going to help foster a much more cordial relationship between the two countries,” he said.
The Indian FM met Punjab Governor Sardar Latif Khosa and Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.
During his meeting with the Governor Punjab, Krishna said that India and Pakistan must strive to maintain the trust between the two countries. He added that however all problems cannot be solved during one meeting.
Agreeing with Krishna, Khosa said that all issues including the Kashmir problem should be solved through dialogue.
Speaking to Punjab chief minister, Krishna said that there has been significant progress in Pakistan-India relations and further improvement can be achieved by addressing all the key issues.
Sharif said that both the countries must forget past differences and move forward.
The Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) also invited Krishna for a luncheon.
During his time in Lahore, Krishna visited Data Darbar, Minar-e-Pakistan and a gurdwara.
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Yes Mr.Krisha and we want to see India lead by Anne Hazrare
@PaKhtoon: Pls read"ET "Almost half of the Pakistani workforce is unemployed according to the figures released by the Pakistan Economy Watch (PEW). " +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Does the Govt provide mattresses to the unemployed to sleep on?
Pakistan will be more peaceful and stable if Indian and the US stay away from Pakistan.
@sheikh - Smart reply to "Casim" Keep it up...
@casim: Of course it will. Most of the launches are done for other countries who pay hefty fees. The 100th launch was done for France & Japan.
@naeem khan Manhattan,Ks: "We have come to this stage that a guest of Pakistan is lecturing the country,"
As an Indian, I would probably feel the same way as you if some random foreigner visited India and made condescending statements as you think the minister made. I did however go back and read the statements and was unable to isolate the specific statements that may have touched a raw nerve. Could you please elaborate as to what specifically bothered you?
@cosmo: Appreciated. I do believe there's enough misery in both our countries and poking each in the eye does not help either of us. Just wish @zapped & @jism would understand that.
yet another attempt to somehow neutralize the ever-growing influence of China in the South Asian countries...after 65 yrs India felt the need to play the "big brother"...its all out of bad intentions
@naeem khan Manhattan,Ks: And You are realizing it now...Shame...
A good example is the US visa system. Give it for 10 year multiple non-reporting. That will help people. What are these insanely restricted visas? Usless. Just playing with words, nothing substantial is on offer. Take it back if India and Pakistan cannot implement The US visa model.
and may I add we want a 'powerful Pakistan' as a neighbour.
India want peacefull stable pakistan this is biggest lie this century
@sheikh: "..days are not far when pakistan wont exist …" The Indian Dream Since 1947 - Keep dreaming my Friend coz it doesn't cost any thing
We have come to this stage that a guest of Pakistan is lecturing the country, he would not be saying these things in other countries, would he? I think people should think about it because they are not treating Pakistan with dignity and equality, we all know whose fault is it that the county has become lawless and any pip squeak could lecture the whole nation. Shame.
@casim:
"will it also help in feeding 800 million poor Indians ?"
Do not know about that. However, one step India has taken is that it stopped the aid of $25 million to Pakistan as it did during the last floods in Pakistan. This amount will be of some use to its 800 million poor who are deserving.
@Pak101: ya keep on increasing the numbers....even if these movements are going they aren't at a level that risks nuclear weapons .... seperatist movements are at a hieght in pakistan...there are even seperatist movement but unlike india and china pakistan has no control over it...proff being simple see express tribune daily some or the other is killed...some or the other blast takes place....some or the other shia,hindu or punjabi or sindhi is shot dead ...lol..days are not far when pakistan wont exist ....just pray allah that ur not reduced to the size of bhutan..lol
The background in the picture is nice !!
@Zapped: Ah surely you jest ! What about all the rocket launches by Taliban, most of them end up in space. And all the launches by Babar NK and Ghauri NK satellite rockets, which are cleverly disguised as missile tests ?
No "K" word this time between India and Pakistan. I mean K for Kashmir, Karachi, Kandhar, Kabul, Krazai, Kakul, Karakoram,....Kalochistan sorry Balochistan.....whatever happened to these foreign ministers this time?
@PaKhtoon ..Dude your proving a point , that is Pakistani's are the most Illiterate country in the world.Even African countries are better that you guys. You can't do anything on our own.You can only beg in front of american's for dollars.
@Pak101: day dreaming about unstable India?? !!
@Parvez: I am with you on the space mission records, I think that was a real cocky comment from "zapped"!
If we want to be developed than we must cut off this atrocity.We should forget about those circumstances and blood-shedding.In-fact Pakistan Must Improve its relationships with other countries as well.
With the new Visa regime, all minorities in Pakistan, particularly Hindus and Sikhs will be soon back in India ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To breathe air free from blasphemy law and terrorism.
@PaKhtoon: Don’t you think your country should concentrate these things as what us,china and other developed countries did and what Pakistan is doing before we start space missions. Pakistan started it's space agency years before ISRO was started,it is not functioning because it doesn't have the capability to carry out space mission,and the scientist abdus salam who played a vital role in setting up Pakistan's space agency had do die in exile. don't forget the nuclear weapons of Pakistan,by your own logic, Pakistan should not be developing weapons anymore.
Congress gov is still in dreams . They want a stable Pakistan , but they didn't study the Islamic world before . Not a single Islamic country is stable .Yes don't count Turkey , Turkey is a open society and they are more to European culture . Better to keep a distance from these countries . We should concentrate on our society and try to make it better....
whenever there is casim, paki comment recommendation goes to rocket hight. something fishy?? @casim: even with 800 million poor, India's HDI is better than pakistan, so who are the losers here?
ONLY A SECULAR PAKISTAN CAN BE A GOOD NEIBHOUR OF SECULAR INDIA ???
Even then we can maintain a balance in our relations with a Islamic state , Continue as an Islamic state and keep The Islamic bomb intact it is serving your national interest but mind it you have lost your national sovereignity and going to loose integerity as weii in due course .
REPEAL THE BLASHPHEMY BLACK LAW IN ONE STROKE !!
Give a signal to the world that now your perceptions are changing accordingly .
@iTroll: "Problem is: When Pakistan is stable, it starts making India unstable." India is already unstable with more than 25 seperation movements over there.
the poor nation cant protect hindus who are seeking asylum...plz dont discuss space related things with them...they are highly illiterate to even spell out some terminologies related to space...let's concentrate on our work ..all indians dismiss
@casim: I agree with you on all points that Pakistan is better. I hope and pray that Pakistan remains like todays situation forever.
@Vikas, Dear friend, That was a good comment. It is always better to criticize with a positive comment than the other way around. Rgds.
I think what the man is saying is, it's about time you start acting like adults.
Beware of sweet talks.
@casim From where are you getting those statistics of 800million poor indians the latest UN survey and Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative tells us that there are 410million poor Indians and that number is reducing every month due to extensive government programs. Your country Pakistan being so tiny with 100 million poor people. You couldn't bring them out of poverty in past 65 years? Just pointing a finger at India won't help Pakistan become any better. In Failed country index you are placed at no. 13. In Competative spirit index you are placed at no. 124. Your GDP growth is 2.7% lesser than bangladesh & sri lanka. 5lakh more employees are required for IT companies every 6months. According to a new poverty Development Goals Report, as many as 320 million people in India and China are expected to come out of extreme poverty in the next four years.!! Can the same thing happen in pakistan?? Shame on you for targetting indian Space initiatives. As far as I can remember your Pak media was the only media on planet earth which did not report much about India's moon mission which found water particles on moon.
@Raw is War:" We said Pakistan. Not Baluchistan." What about Assam,chatesgar,, Mizuram, Tripura, Khalistan, 7 Sisters State, Hyderabad Deccan and 19 other separation movements in india.
@prabhat, Human, amalqam. Kashmiri. Truth is bitter to accept. US, India, Israel, all want to cease PAK nuecs, as this is the only problem in their way to control the region. Slow poison is given by these external snakes. will soon overcome our trouble time. TTP, BLA all supported and funded by US, Ind.
I just want an increasingly accepting Pakistan for Veena! =(
I can see te Pakistani perspective: the Indian 100th Space Mission is a conspiracy to malign the Pakistani image ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A legal process is called for:)
@Obaidullah: @Zapped: "Can someone tell me how many space missions Pakistan conducted till date." According to UN, around 20 % of indians are going to sleep without food everyday, half of homes have no toilets, The greatest number of world's illiterates are in India, India alone contributes to more than 10% of suicides in the world.. Don't you think your country should concentrate these things as what us,china and other developed countries did and what Pakistan is doing before we start space missions.
@Parvez: no problem,anytime anywhere at your service .
ET India launched 100 satellites today..Where is that news.?? I guess Pakistan did not receive that news yet!!!
First give independence to Kashmir and pull back your armed forces from Siachen than we can believe that they are speaking the truth.
@casim: Can't say for sure. But it will definitely be better than it would be for more than a 100 million poor Pakistanis...
@casim: ya 800 then 1000 then 1100 and then 1200 and finally 1201...go on..go on ...doesn't bother us we are heading in right direction...at least we are better than pakistan where 0.1% is rich ...5 % middle class...17%lower middle class 80% people extremely poor ...extremely dillapidated conditons and remaining in al qaida.LET,LEJ,JUD,JEM,TALIBAN,HUJI...and so many more...but hats off u guys are reducing poverty by creating terrorists.that is very smart and recommendable..clap clap clap...bravo cheers..its shame u guys have a cricket team and a low cost cheap fashion industry.....burqa waali models...LOL
@casim: "will it also help in feeding 800 million poor Indians ?" - Satellites launched for French and Japanese. Ever heard about making money launching satellite for other countries.
@casim: "If Pakistan becomes like Syria or Afghanistan then India wont stay safe either," +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dont make empty threats.......!
@PaKhtoon: What ever but half of our population is not sleeping on footpath +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ They must be afraid of the drones...isnt it?
@Parvez: Its time to hold the Great India Pakistan 100 Gulab Jamun Gulping Competition ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ May the best side win !
The title should be "Pakistan does not want a stable, peaceful and progressive Pakistan"
@jism: Exactly my point, thank you.
@PaKhtoon: Indeed he Pakistani population is sleeping so soundly that when the US Seals came calling at Abbottaabad no one woke up. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzz:)
as if we dont want that? eh?
@Parvez: As far as i know, i am not aware of anyone who beat that record of having 100 gulab-jaams in about 60 seconds flat. Anyway thanks for sharing the information. Have a pleasant day.
@PaKhtoon: What ever but half of our population is not sleeping on footpath……… better to be in a country with half population on foot path than to be in country which is constantly bombed and being ruled by foreign powers with no sense of sovereignty and self respect.
@Parvez: you can have that record,none of us will waste our time in challenging that record.happy!
@Zapped: So it comes down to the number of space missions..........does it. OooK ! you win. We have a guy in Gugranwalla who cam eat 100 gulab-jaams (the big ones) in 60 seconds...... now can you beat that ?
@Polpot: "" Subject to IMF……" What ever but half of our population is not sleeping on footpath.........
@PaKhtoon: Pakistan will be soon Stable and Peaceful inshallah ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject to IMF......
By the way, India today conducted 100th space mission, Can someone tell me how many space missions Pakistan conducted till date. appreciate a reply. Thanks.
@jism: Oh sure it will :) the Huge military will help you feed millions, the missiles you guys test every month will help in feeding millions, so on & forth. This has been so successful that now India is able to feed its 800 million or so ( and increasing ) poor people, congratulations :) as for the satellite, it had no link with the matter in the article nor it provides millions of people with jobs, so you are again wrong! even NASA does not employ millions, which is way bigger than your space agency in fact they are cutting their costs now! lol please come to the level of a developed nation first instead of thinking about just showcasing material things which have zero impact on the poor :)
@casim: let me know how it will not help in providing better economic opportunities for poor,and i will list how those satellites have been benefiting India's poor for last 60 odd years.
@gp65: I would assume that I normally take a slightly harder line than you do, and I agree with the points that you have mentioned; and I don't India has made any major concessions in the negotiations either. However, I believe that the present govt in Pakistan has been courageous in committing to CBMs without significant quid pro quo - and a niggardly response from our side will only strengthen the stance of nay-sayers on their side - largely within the military establishment and their proxies. So while this will not address all relevant pain points, but we still only stand to gain from supporting it.
@casim: They are paranoid...they don't even know when they are lying..
@casim: Can't the development of science and technology give employment opportunities?? I strongly feel, the efforts to provide good education n giving boost to related fields like science and technology will definitely reap good results..
@casim: will it also help in feeding 800 million poor Indians ? yup,in every way it will help. if you really want to know,the satellites that have already been launched are helping feed millions.if you think that only agriculture will help feed millions,than feel happy to be in stone age,in today's world technology is used to feed millions.weather prediction,prediction of rains,surveying of land for agriculture connectivity for millions in times of disaster,e-education etc.
@casim: The satellites will surely help in keeping an eye on terrorists sneaking into india ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You know where the terrorists come from.
@kumar
I can see how many indians on this site alone showing no interest in pakistan and ur FM visiting ofcoz is again a proof India has no interest in Pakistan. Man Indians need to stop drinking their govt's kool aid.
@Polpot: You may think that way.. But, pointing at the developments in science and technology...
If Pakistan becomes like Syria or Afghanistan then India wont stay safe either, keep this in mind Indian friends :) but this hypothesis is highly unlikely, things will get better the moment US forces withdraw by 2014 & Pakistan will be at peace as it was pre Afghan invasion. India should look at improving its relation with Pakistan, resolve all key issues like Saichen, Sirkreek & Kashmir for a better future of this region.
SM Krishna, you do not want to get back to India or what?
@suraj: will it also help in feeding 800 million poor Indians ?
@ ayesha @ qadri lolz nice one get a life people. What intrest india have in pakistan i think trade with pakistan touch 100 billion $ No then why ???
Lets Give Credit To President Asif Zardari To Extend Hand of Friendship With India. We Have Good Hopes That Good Sense Prevail This Time Around With The Indian Government To Embrace Pakistan Friendship. The Good Initiative Was Started By Former Pime Minister Of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif. Lets Make Travel, Business and Culutral Exchane, Medical and Educational Easier. The Amount Being Spent On Fancy Military Toys Would Better Be Utilzed On Educating Both Urban and Rural Population. One Less Battle Tank Will Build Hundreds Of Primary School. Lets Not Waste Minds Together.
@suraj: "India is busy planning to launch its 101th satellite " ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What..a 100 Indian satellites peering into Pakistan?
@suraj: yupp proud moment!!!:D
@Zaid Hamid: hmm i noe...its practically impossible for pakistan to be peaceful and prosperous....well said zaid hamid..... btw i am ur gr8 fan...i still wanted to noe when will pakistanis be sitting on moon and all the decision will be made in pakistan??? when sir!! when??
wrong !!! we dont want a stable and peaceful pakistan.... pakistan can go to dogs,rags ( it already is) ...we dont care.... we dont give a damn...we want pakistan not to support terrorism against us ...loud and clear...we haven't carried out 26/11 in ur cities..plz dont force us to do that.... ur existence is solely in our hand.... dont mess with us..apart from this ..do whateva u want india's not stopping u....get that???
Dear friends, talk about peace.......don't pull another's legs. Pakistan don't have the power to reign in any of the terrorist organisation, please accept it. The Policy adopted by both countries now and that is to circumvent the problems which are creating roadblocks in front of any peace progress and which are difficult to negotiate while keeping in mind that there are rough elements in both the country which will try to destabilize this peace process. Then only we will be able to foster a robust relationship (just like India and China have managed), keeping some burning problems at bay to be solved at appropriate time in future in best and more conducive atmosphere.
if india wants to prosperous in future pakistan must be divided india must start supporting baloshistan liberation army
India is busy planning to launch its 101th satellite after its successful launch of 100th today...
If one fail to introspect oneself, everything looks like a conspiracy (currently most sought-after term) and muddle oneself up in a psyche of blaming others for all mishaps.. Quite often, most of people blindly ignore the rampant sectarian unrest within the society. No initiatives/measures were taken so far by the State Institutions to prevent it; rather try to create laws to enhance the divisions among the people.. People, mostly, blames the politicos.. but they are just vote-mongers and go any extent to get power n subsequently to loot out millions for their own families.. So, the change should come within the people..
I believe each and every word that comes out of this great man's mouth
and i want cookies .
We reject such outrageous demand from India.
@BlackJack: "I think this is a good move. We are still hostages to our shared turbulent history"
IF it becomes clear that the turbulence is firmly history with no chance of repeating in the future, the atmospherics will change dramatically. It is premature to believe that 26/11 will not be repeated. COnsider - In 2012 itself you can find speeches from JuD leaders fundraising by threatening jihad against India - The hate spewing textbooks have still not changed - There is a deliberate canard about India tealing water that there is no attempt to correct - The good cop/ bad cop game continues wit Hina Rabbani playing the good cop while Rehman Malik absurdly accusing India of supporting TTP - Indian objections to European concessions to Pakistan within WTO were withdrawn in lieu of Pakistan granting India MFN status. India delivered its part but Pakistan is yet to deliver its part of commitment - Fairly recently, the Indian government discovered tunnels near he LOC to push jihadis to India - Fund raising for JeM which had ground to a halt during latter part of Musharraf's regime has restarted.
Actions speak louder than words and I would like to see some action for once to back-up words.
@ adeel qadri
We said Pakistan. Not Baluchistan.
@adeel quadri
bhai , its their own FREEDOM STRUGGLE , we don't interfere in that .
@adeel qadri: When India had evidence to show JUD's involvement in 26/11, India went to the U.N. and got JUD sanctioned in 2008. So instead of repeating everything you hear on the useless electronic media in your country, why don't you question yourself and ask if your country has the evidence, why doesn't it register a protest in the U.N. and get India sanctioned? Just repeating a lie over and over does not become a truth in a sane world. In Pakistan, it seems it does.
@ Adeel Qadri.....yes, world cant help it...pakistan is such a great nation that entire world is trying to destabilise it...all the TTP, LeT,haqqani are planted by outside world to pakistan...
and dont even talk about India....Indians are not only creating problems in pakistan, but in Iraq, Iran, N.Korea, China, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt and in all other peace loving nations of the world.....
Exactly...dual standards..@adeel qadri:
yeah.. that why creating problem in Balochistan.
Problem is: When Pakistan is stable, it starts making India unstable.
Pakistan without terrorist and supporting them against India is best for both countries. When we will have peace in the region, trust will automatically develop.
I think this is a good move. We are still hostages to our shared turbulent history, but that does not mean that we should strengthen extremists by ignoring the normal, progressive elements of Pakistan and the clearly articulated desire of the present govt to establish and build a strong and friendly relationship. Kudos to the PPP govt for their efforts.