The problem with Saeed and others on the Right is rather simple: while they present certain facts — e.g., India’s treatment of Kashmiris, which is shameful by any benchmark — their solution is more, not less conflict. Of course the assumption here is that they want the conflict to end, which mayn’t be correct. In fact one could argue, and some would call it a no-brainer, that if the conflict between India and Pakistan were to end, or even become manageable, there would be a proportionate decrease in the public fortunes of Saeed and other such leaders.
Even so, let’s assume for the sake of the argument that such groups do want the conflict to end, though their ideal end to the conflict would mean favourable terms for Pakistan. If such be the case, and I argue in and through the realist framework, then the problem of their approach must stare them hard in their faces.
They could begin by doing a little assessment of their own “successes”. Where does India stand after fighting multiple insurgencies? Has it buckled under? Are the Kashmiris any closer to getting rid of India than they were back in December 1989? Please note that all my statements, for the purpose of this analysis, are value-neutral. I don’t think that India should be in possession of Kashmir. I deeply resent India’s oppression of Kashmiris. But a realist analysis and a viable policy is never based on wish-assumptions. It requires is-assumptions. Is-es and wishes cannot be conflated.
Take water. The Indus Waters Treaty has worked very well so far. Yes, there have been disputes; yes, the treaty is more focused on the engineering and legal aspects of water-sharing than the ecological systems of individual rivers and that is a problem; yes, there are areas which need to be tackled keeping in mind the spirit and not just the letter, for example the provision that allows India to build as many run-of-the-river projects on western rivers as it wants, throwing up the problem of “cumulative effect” which can hurt flows, etc. Yes, all of this and more is correct. But try finding one sensible person in Pakistan or India that would say, “Do away with this treaty”.
No one would because imagine Pakistan and India sans this treaty. There would possibly be more conflict and more bad blood leading to even more conflict. And what’s a treaty if not about the spirit of finding a cooperative solution to existing and subsequent problems and disputes? Disputes can either be cooperatively resolved or fought over. Which of the two options is better?
In the real world states use both options. But fighting is never an end in itself; it must lead to some advantage. Also, fighting requires a clear appreciation of when and how to fight, when to stop and to what end. Saeed would do well to read up on Otto von Bismarck. And if he finds that Bismarck would not have agreed with him then Saeed might want to reassess his approach.
There is a time when states find that jaw-jaw is better than war-war. That they need to resolve disputes differently, not in a political sense but by making the politics of the dispute disappear. If Saeed is sensitive to the plight of the Kashmiris, as I am sure he is — just like I am, belong as I do to AJK — and if Kashmir cannot be wrested from India militarily, a fact that should not be lost on him, then he needs to ask a simple question: what can be done to give back to Kashmiris their life and dignity?
There are many Indians, even centrists, who believe that India has much to be ashamed of in its treatment of the Kashmiris. How about strengthening them? Surely such approach would demand eschewing violence and devising more sophisticated strategies? It would require knocking the ground from under the feet of Indian hawks. At the state level, trade and investment are good, solid approaches to creating interdependencies, the very idea Saeed finds loathsome. I must confess that I am a hard convert myself to this idea; I will also concede that at this point the ground is not even. I also believe that in the initial phases at least nothing magical could be expected. But as an economist said to me recently, quoting Keynes, “I’d rather be vaguely right than precisely wrong”.
Saeed can present us a list of Indian perfidy on any given day and end up being precisely wrong or he can rethink approaches that could, in the interim, make him vaguely right. The choice is his.
One of the biggest problems with the Right — both in Pakistan and India — is that it wants the politics between the two states to become non-temporal and millenarian. The Germans, who coined the term realpolitik, understood the concept as modest approaches in a real world — as opposed to the ideal which can be moral, ethical and, very often, absolutist. Politics and interstate relations are neither static nor cast in stone.
In Europe, conservatives often embarked on slow liberal policies both to put down the socialists and as a tool to give from the top-down to avoid what could otherwise become an explosion from bottom-up.
The Right here remains unsophisticated and uncouth. It also tends to sacralise the state and thereby reduce rather than increase the state’s options. And when it can’t influence the state, it threatens and attacks it. All of which means that it is a threat, not only to individual liberties within but also to state’s options without. A bigger problem: the internal and external threats for Pakistan are now supplementing each other and Saeed and his cohorts are a hindrance to streamlining policies.
Published in The Express Tribune, August 1st, 2012.
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@MilesToGo: HAHAHA Hindus leaving the only true religion in the world which has existed for more than 100,000 years and converting to another non religion - at best political cult!!You must be joking!!
@Faraz:
"@Vikas: Duh! The author IS Pakistani. "
Wrong! Pakistan officially claims that Azad Kashmir, from where Ijaz claims he is from, is a free country. How can then Azad Kashmiri be a Pakistani?
@a_writer: Are you telling me all Indian are shameless?????
@Nagpuri: He is Kashmiri. He mentioned that in the article as well. Kashmir is his backyard and he has all the right to talk about it as a Journalist and a Kashmiri.
@ayesha_khan: Deference and me .. kabhi nahin!! I don't think that you got my comment.. I meant to say that these assorted crazies SHOULD be the subject of discussion, scrutiny and verbal flagellation (corporal would be better.. but if wishes were horses....)
@Faraz: "Would you rather that nobody comments upon these bearded worthies at all"
Do not mean to speak on behalf of PK. Do feel that it is inappropriate to treat such "bearded worthies" with so much awe and deference.
What is happening in Pakistan that a prominent journalist of a leading daily has to address a dreaded terrorist with utmost respect and awe, who has millions of dollars on his head and alleged to be responsible for deaths of hundreds of innocent people.
@Milestogo:
Arabs do not share oil-wealth amongst themselves, let alone non-Arab Muslims.
All land on earth belongs to Allah and Muslims should share it fairly among themselves and non-Muslims. Indians should give fair share to Muslims. Same Arabs should share the oil wealth with rest of the muslims. All Muslims are brothers and what Allah has given - should be distributed equally.
@gp65: We know the problems with our country and we will inshallah solve them eventually. Your advice , opinion and presence are completely unwarranted.
@Ex-PPP: I clearly said "Very few Kashmiris. If any at all wish to join Pakistan." He is a part of the Very Few I just pulled the "nail" out in my previous post. Cheers
@nadeem: when have you shifted to Srinagar from Karachi.
@Nadeem: Right back at you mate .. I am a Kashmiri from the valley as well .. and I insist that you are a part of a hopeless bigoted minority. Please smell the coffee.
@Dushmann: Brilliantly put........Pakistanis forget that it was India that was divided not Pakistan
@Nadeem: Ha Ha. you will call yourself Kashmiri & i will believe you.wow. Have some common sense. Pakistan is considered as an international migraine. "Pakis" is a slang in many western countries. Forget Kashmiris, most Pakistanis would not want to be part of Pakistan. Even Ex-PM of Pakistan has already told them,Why dont they leave.who is stopping them.
mayn’t ?
@Ex-PPP: "@Indians Majority of the Pakistan is moderate right-wing unlike Hafiz Saeed and confused liberals. We love Pakistan. You think that Pakistan will become part of India again? Well DREAM ON! HAHAHAHA"
The truth is that no-one in India wishes to undo partition. Getting millions of radicalized people in our country would be a nightmare NOT a dream. The point being made was that any Kashmiri people who want to be part of Pakistan are free to move to Pakistan. Unlike erstwile Soviet union, India does not stop people from leaving if they choose.
@Ashish Deb
Musharraf;s proposal was taken very seriously by Manmohan. Musharraf himself acknowledges it. But then the judiciary crisis happened in Pakistan and Musharraf did not have bandwidth to move forward. Kayani and Pakistani foreign office state that they do not have any record of Musharraf's proposals and hence cannot start from where he left. Also in case you are aware, in the interim a little something called 26/11 happened which called into question the peaceful intenions of deep state.
@Indians Majority of the Pakistan is moderate right-wing unlike Hafiz Saeed and confused liberals. We love Pakistan. You think that Pakistan will become part of India again? Well DREAM ON! HAHAHAHA
@Nadeem Well done bro. You nailed it against Faraz.
Just to clarify my comment.
Author is loosing his credibility by sanitizing and helping Saeed loose some beggage for upcoming election. Could author explain what he means " I will also concede that at this point the ground is not even." So some plan is cooking for the right time to attack on India to capture Kashmir? Or some other evil plan is in design for the right time when the "ground is even again."
@Nadeem: For which people do you speak? Uzbek migrants? Irani migrants? (I heard some even claim Arabic ancestry), Original indians in valley? Jammu people? Gujjars? Shias of Gilgit and Baltistan? Ladakhi Budhists? Shias of Kargil? . Anyway it doesn't matter. Simple question is do you consider yourself Indian, no matter where some of your ancestors possibly came from; or do you consider yourself non-Indian. If you haven't noticed on map, there is already a Pakistan for you or anyone who thinks they are not Indian. Even if you are not sure, still Pakistan is perfect land for people with identity crisis. Go to what you think are your own people and enjoy freedom there instead of sitting in our holy land. If you consider your self Indian, you have right to say anything you want; if not, outsiders should not poke their nose in India's (Kashmir's) internal matters.
@not an Indian
Geographically, whole Pakistan and Kashmir are all part of India…” Still having delusions, are you ?
Ever heard of the Indian subcontinent? Ask you Geography teacher to explain this.
@Dushmann
Part of your response to Nadeem stated "Both geographically and religious ( basis of partition ) Kashmir is part of Pakistan".
There is no geographical Pakistan, it is ideological state. -Geographically, whole Pakistan and Kashmir are all part of India. So Kashmir is part of India, geographically+LEGALLY, not to mention thousands of years of history. -so what is left is people. In that case, Pakistan is Islamic nation, Indian identity is not limited to religion. And even if someone in India (including Kashmir) does not agree on that, they can migrate to Pakistan. In fact it was exactly for such people that Pakistan was created on Indian land.
It is a reality. Cant you digest it already?
You forgot to add that the Pashtuns of Khyber Pashtunkhwa province are Afghans and that territory was an integral part of Afghanistan ruled by Afghans until the Durand Line was established.
@Faraz: Well well surprise. I am Kashmiri from Srinagar and I speak for my people. Kashmir banay ga Pakistan.
@Dushmann: "...Geographically, whole Pakistan and Kashmir are all part of India..." Still having delusions, are you ?
@Nadeem Because you are so delusional and ignorant.Power cut was only for 7-8 hrs.It has been restored completely now.So stop making yourself fool.
@Nadeem: Despite massive power outage Indians some how manage to visit Pakistan dailies. Makes me wonder
See India is so advanced technologically that we can use internet without electricity. . Why does the word Kashmir irk Indians so much. Is 1947 not a reality. Because entire erstwhile princely state of Jammu and Kashmir is legally Indian territory (like more than five hundred other princely states, and similar princely states that are now Pakistan), and part of it is under illegal occupation of our neighbors who despite being aggressors have audacity to pretend to be victims and accuse us of being the aggressors in shrill voices. . Both geographically and religious ( basis of partition ) Kashmir is part of Pakistan.
There is no geographical Pakistan, it is ideological state. -Geographically, whole Pakistan and Kashmir are all part of India. So Kashmir is part of India, geographically+LEGALLY, not to mention thousands of years of history. -so what is left is people. In that case, Pakistan is Islamic nation, Indian identity is not limited to religion. And even if someone in India (including Kashmir) does not agree on that, they can migrate to Pakistan. In fact it was exactly for such people that Pakistan was created on Indian land.
It is a reality. Cant you digest it already?
@Riaz Khan: Its just small brotherly talk.
@Nadeem: Decades back, separatist S.A Geelani used to give the slogan"Kashmir banega Pakistan". Then suddenly sense prevailed in him & he stopped giving this slogan, may be he could foresee Pakistan of today. I am sure Kashmiris would be thanking their stars for someway not being a part of Pakistan today.
Despite massive power outage Indians some how manage to visit Pakistan dailies. Makes me wonder
Why does the word Kashmir irk Indians so much. Is 1947 not a reality. Cant you digest it already? As far as Kashmir goes I think we need to leave it to Kashmiris themselves as to what they want instead of meddling in their affairs. Both geographically and religious ( basis of partition ) Kashmir is part of Pakistan. The sooner you realize the better off is subcontinent. And If you are so confident in your part of occupied Kashmir I challenge you to go to Srinagar and ask fellow Kashmiris about their aspirations.
I'm just a wee bit puzzled by this article. Is this a message from the establishment that Hafiz Saeed's shelf life may be coming to an end? After all, Hafeez himself has become more nuanced "urging dialogue" between India and Pakistan to resolve outstanding issues. Nothing like a bounty on your head to focus the mind! Pakistan took on the US for seven months before the confrontation ended "not necessarily to Pakistan's advantage" to paraphrase what Japan said at the end of WWII. The future is going to be difficult, Pakistan has its economic woes and the Americans are not abandoning Afghanistan, after all. Pakistan's all-weather friend will be pre-occupied elsewhere, and, the great new game will focus on access to resources and technology and markets. The world has little patience with the kind of things Pakistan is mired in - terrorism, for instance. So the need for change. @ Usman Malik Agreed, it's a Pakistani paper and the article is addressed in the main, to Pakistani readers. But since there are issues that deeply concern India, you should not be surprised if Indians comment on them (given the opportunity which this paper has), as long as it is conducted in a manner that is both civil and relevant. Might I add that you have phrased your own comment in a most agreeable manner.
@Ashish Deb
I’m no admirer of General Musharraf, quite the contrary, but the four point formula he had suggested on Kashmir would not have been a bad beginning at all. India foolishly refused to reciprocate.
Correction is in order. India did not 'foolishly refuse to reciprocate'. In fact Manmohan Singh had packed his bags for a visit to Pakistan. But Musharaff decided to have his coup Version-2 by kicking out the Chief Justice ahead of a hearing against Musharaff. The rest as you know is history. Incidentally, Musharaff lost his constituency , the Army and his position, not so much because of the CJ fiasco but because of the overture to India. As on date Pakistan establishment flatly refuses to acknowledge that this was ever a serious proposal.
While biking on any busy road we see offal sellers surrounded by countless crows. Those seeking blessings or good luck purchase a packet, circle 7 times around their head and throw before hungry crows. At some places kites join. This is common sight and countless crows and kites can be seen hovering. A confused society to whom beatitude means feeding crows, kites and other worthless creatures, ignoring their worth or importance, if Hafiz Saeed like demagogues easily emerge and penetrate in its social fabric there is nothing to be concerned about. Hafiz Saeed is continuation of what was initiated Maulana Usmani, Moododi etc. Only change took place in span of few decades is degree of intolerance and element of violence. Irrespective of role played by deep state in patronizing such groups, as long as we collectively will feed crows for blessing, ignoring other far more effective means to earn virtues, creatures like Hafiz Sahib will keep emerging.
Talking about Indus water treaty ..it is the most one sided treaty in the history of water sharing, where Pakistan gets most of the water..the treaty between Mexico and USA of water sharing of Colorado river US gets the lump some of water and rightly so because it's a bigger country and it has more needs to it..but for Indus Pakistan gets the bigger share and then Pakistan says it is not getting enough..
and stop talking about Kashmir..for crying out loud..becuase u already screwed it pretty well..
Well, Hafiz Sahib are good at his words and Doings as well. Its India who should be given an advise.
This article could be the advise from handlers of Ejaz Haider to sensitize the readers and start to bring Hafiz saeed and the dafan council into the mainstream media by calling them religious rightist and by creating a debate whereby other writers may also join in. This will allow a modus operandi to the animals called religious right to increase their exposure to the english media whereby to the international readers. Nice try handlers !
@Ashish Deb: I agree with your point of view. India need not be afraid to discuss Kashmir with anyone - Pakistan, Kashmiri separatists or any other interlocutor. As @Karma points out - all options that doesn't involve breaking up of territory on the basis of religion should be welcome. It is churlish of Indian govt. refusing to consider options, when it has chosen to talk to Pakistan on other issues.
@MilesToGo
the problem is not indians but hindus. if hindus gradually convert to islam, kashmir problem will go away…
Apart from Saudi which has oil, countries with 100% muslim populations such as Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia have such peace and tanquility. Pakistan is soon going to become 100% muslim ....have fun
@Ashish Deb: Appreciate your courage!
Writers like Ejaz Haider should not advice terrorists like Hafiz Saeed! It's steeping down to his level which is not nice. They only understand force & do not need advices.
I do agree with Ejaz that it is best to keep aside Kashmir territorial issue and progress on other issues, create inter-dependency & cultural exchange. We don't have to be friends to behave like two normal countires.
Kashmir is a troubled territory, so as in every troubled territory there is violence, thus army presence - which inevitably leads to some atrocities. If there is normalcy, the violence will go away over time. I agree with him that Many Indians (me being one) are somewhat ashamed of what has happened in Kashmir. But, India's overall record has been far better than that of Pakistan in 'settled territories'.
How proud is Pakistan of its treatment of minorities in its 'settled territories'? What about constitutional discrimination? What about blasphemy laws? What about denial of human rights and conversion on TV? What about almost destroyed Hindu population? With what face can Pakistan demand Kashmir should follow in their path of dividing a territory on religious grounds?
@kaalchakra: I can not believe it is you, from which side did the Sun rise today . I AGREED with you.
Wow...The writer is giving so much importance to a TERRORIST as if there is no issue in Pak...who cares...India is growing stronger as infiltration increses...
@MilesToGo: You have hardly any Hindus in Pakistan and i notice you live in complete peace and tranquillity
I don't agree with you, you are being an hypocrite. While millions are dying in Pakistan's own backyard, you are going on a preaching sermon of bad the neighbors are.
For a short time u might get some benefits from non state actors but they can never be positive for a country in the long run and one day they ll challenge your interests.
I am amazed at the amount of "respect" and "deference" that Bismarck Hafeez Saeed seems to command from Mr Ejaz Haider.
@Babloo: The best comment, wicked.........as mr harder oped do great men like saeed read tribune, even if they would they bother to think or act what is the incentive........... apperciation from haider......always getting confused.........
It is most shameful of the author to pontificate on India's treatment of Kashmiris when he knows very well that the Shias of Gilgit are living in absolute tyranny, in fear of their lives and under constant scrutiny of the ISI.. Their numbers overwhelmed by Wahabi implants from Punjab. This is just one example. What about Balochistan?
Please get off your high horse, have some intellectual honesty.
@Vikas: Duh! The author IS Pakistani.
religion, caste, creed dont go hand in hand to run a country.
@PK: That is a rather churlish comment upon a well thought out article. Would you rather that nobody comments upon these bearded worthies at all
the problem is not indians but hindus. if hindus gradually convert to islam, kashmir problem will go away...
hafiz commands way more influence then ejaz. if anything hafiz's influence will increase and ejaz's will decrease.
is it author's own POV or like his previous articles, it is what "doctor" ordered to save them from more humiliation
And I am sure Saeed would be impressed enough to read Bismarck!! How much more pompous can you be!
"There are many Indians, even centrists, who believe that India has much to be ashamed of in its treatment of the Kashmiris." - Really? could you please provide some references and statistics where you got this gem? could it be that it came out of some research done by the Deep State's Think Tank.
Who is behind Hafiz Saeed ??? can u sir tell yourBoses to read this articale and get some lesson....
Let me assure you about one thing: you are perfectly right when you say that there are many Indians - and Hindus at that - who are ashamed of what has happened in Kashmir. There is no need, as some of the responses to your blog have done, to bring up Pakistan's treatment of its minorities, or the nature of the Pakistani state, or whatever: one wrong does not justify another. India is forever ready to talk about everything with Pakistan - except Kashmir. Our foreign office keeps trying to think up more and more CBMs (confidence building measures) so long as they don't involve Kashmir. The trouble is the whole thing has become such a prestige issue, that the slightest concession India makes, will be tom-tomed as a huge victory for the separatists, and the right wing parties will make such an issue of it that the government which took the step will never win the next election. But still India's attitude is short sighted. I'm no admirer of General Musharraf, quite the contrary, but the four point formula he had suggested on Kashmir would not have been a bad beginning at all. India foolishly refused to reciprocate.
While reading this article, i was suspicious that this article was written by an ejaz haider impostor. As I could not find any random but irrelevant quotes (or reference to) from a famous 'westerner' or a book...until..lo and behold....i found ....Keynes, “I’d rather be vaguely right than precisely wrong”. Instantly, i was convinced (sort of) that the writer could actually be ejaz haider. Although, i still have my doubts as there was only one such reference or quote in the entire article. Phew!
I learnt something new. Mr Hafeez Saeed is now potentially seen as the "Bismarck of Pakistan". lol
Haider Sahib is probably one of the smartest sleuths in Pakistan with a keen eye on defense related issues. Hafiz Saeed belongs to the political elite having deep roots with establishment and rich in experience. Therefore, i find this method of official state messaging at odds with ground realities and historical context. Either the state as represented by Haider (Jinnah Institute) has finally decided to tell the world that they no longer wish to support Hafiz Saeed or, this is a signal to the Hafiz Saeed's of Pakistan to take a vacation!
Ejaz you certainly are assuming a lot from Hafiz Saeed and his like. Whereas thank you my Indian friends for jumping on another article meant for Pakistanis and spoiling the positive debate which could take place between Pakistanis! bravo!
Kashmir is an integral part of India. Period. Anyone like or dislikes, that is not at all any problem. The author can migrate to Pakistan if he wants.
Hafiz Saeed is of great utility to India. India does not want him in prison. That is why India does not provide details that will implicate him.
Great article.
But, it of course assumes Hafiz Saeed is a rational player. Just who are we talking about here? He is the founder of an UN listed international terrorist group LeT - which has been responsible for killing 100s (if not thousands) of innocent people. The guy is a extremist who spews venom on USA (a declared friend of Pakistan) and on India (Undeclared enemy of Pakistan). Can he be a rational person to take any advice? Would you venture to give rational advice to an institutionalized Insane man?
And your assertion that there are Indians who are ashamed of Kashmir - You are right, we aren't proud of atrocities. But, at the same time we are proud of having maintained the ethnic integrity of Kashmir (Something Pakistan didn't do in its territory, China not doing in Tibet). We are relieved at having endured an instigated insurgency. We are also painfully aware India's options are limited in Kashmir, but we are resolute in not letting another partition happen.
so our establishment is now thinking rationally for a change. i wonder how long that will last and by the way why are they trying to convince a man like hafiz saeed are they afraid that if they tried to do away with him he will turn on them just like taliban.
I think Ejaz Haider has a given a very sincere and level-headed advice to Hafiz Saeed. He would certainly benefit from it, if he is remotely humble enough to hear anyone's advice.
Ejaz Saheb i wonder if you know there is Muslim majority town by the name of Malerkotla in Indian Punjab . There has never been a riot in the town the Muslims have political power as the MLA is always a Muslim , I know the town well as my in-laws are from there the Muslims Sikhs and Hindus live in harmony . These things are possible when religion is not the be all and end all of life. The Muslims of Malerkotla are safer than the Muslims in Pakistan that is why most people in Pakistan do not know it exists. Just food for thought there are other options in life apart from confrontation.
e.g., India’s treatment of Kashmiris, which is shameful by any benchmark —
So which benchmark do you measure the treatment of Baluchis and other minorities in Pakistan ?
Come again? Your are moved by plight of Kashmiris? as opposed to Ahmadi, Shia, Christians, balochs and Hazaras in your own back yard? Talk about misplaced emotions?
Ejaz, your main problem is your build your theory assuming Pakistan is normal state. It is not even a state or nation but an ego land for its founder.
Before you build your constructs and postulates and your derived hypothesis about nature of state and its interplays, etc. but all your assumptions are hollow as they are as strong as Pakistani statehood.
And by your own admission, even the greatest minds in statecraft have trouble understanding the raison d'etat of Pakistan. First try to address those contradictions and come to terms with those with honest apology to Indian Muslims (who didn't vote for Muslim league). After that your theories will have some legs, without that they are neither here not there.
Thank you, Ejaz sahib. A thought provoking article as usual. The religious right in Pakistan are highly irrational no doubt, but capitulating before an occupying enemy is not realpolitik either. I also think you miss the point that not all right wingers in Pakistan are religious. Secularism is by no means the preserve of the left liberals. The religious right and the liberal left are equally a threat to the future of Pakistan. Pakistan needs a nonreligious, pragmatic right wing to lead it forward.
Good that you highlighted the plight of kashmiris, but did you ever think about the plight of kashmiri hindus, who have become beggar and homeless in their own country....well, you know better....
though i am not from kashmir, but i do feel that kashmir has been put to excess, but have you ever wondered why?
did GOD instruct indians in 1989 to, all of a sudden, militarise the valley...
guess who were the real cause of all that happened in kashmir?
maybe, they were the brave warriors of GREAT JIHAD, who had just defeated a superpower, and thought of india as easy meat, but forgot that this time it's not about confronting an enemy who has occupied your land, but against one, whose land you are going to encroach....
if pakistan has still not learnt it's lesson, let them keep adding new chapters to the book...
Despite his proclivity for prolix Ejaz Haider has, for once, taken a sensible stance.
My serious advice to the author to stop writing about people like Hafiz Saeed... Unfortunately, these sort of leaders engage in arm twisting, abduction etc to silence those critics who openly verbalize their opinions against them.. Mr Khaled Ahmed had a real bad encounter with Hafiz Saeed and Khaled sahab had to regret it... The author should exercise caution.
Deftly done!
Of course Hafiz Saeed reads tribune and Ijaz Haider in particular and analyze and rationally thinks and decides on what his approach should be in future - hilarious. Only in Pakistan you will have newspaper columnists giving advice to proclaimed terrorists!!!!
Ejaz Saheb, why don't you shed a few tears on your oppressed countrymen instead of worrying about your neighbors problem.
discussing Kashmir , anybody in Kashmir who reads newspapers and watch Pakistani tv/ radio is now fully abhorrent to the idea of joining Pakistan , Why should they join Pakistan ?? for what ?? and what happened to 250 millions still living in India ? do these crazy people , mullas politicians want another 1947 ?