Scanning through some of the material on the issue in social media, it doesn’t take long to realise that the entire debate is not really about Burma but about the social divide in Pakistan. There seems to be a contest between those trying to frame this as a clash of civilisations problem versus others, who believe the emphasis is on an Islamists conspiracy. In social media language, this is a battle between liberal-fascists and the fundos.
Starting with the latter, the argument is: why the emphasis on the Burmese question when Pakistan has its own minority rights problems to deal with. The neo-nationalist-Islamists in the country are less eager to denounce the killings of Ahmadis, Shiites, Christians and Hindus. Such a proposition is unjustified since there is no bar on the number of injustices that an individual or a country can decry. The persecution of the Burmese Muslims is as serious an offence as any other. Hence, the argument made by both sides is lame — violence in Burma cannot be protested until internal issues are sorted out or that domestic acts of injustice cannot be protested until people have the moral authority of having protested the Burmese issue first. However, flagging an issue and protesting injustice must not be based on an obvious manipulation of facts as it raises pertinent questions about the actual intent. Indubitably, the Rohingya Muslims of Myanmar are in trouble but this does not justify a campaign in Pakistan based on doctored photographs. Some of the photos showing Buddhist monks overseeing hundreds of dead bodies are actually fake. This does not reduce the intensity of the problem or negate the fact that the mixture of religion with state politics anywhere in the world makes a lethal potion used by the powerful to manipulate and persecute.
However, it is not certain if those flagging the issue are really seriously concerned about the atrocities against the Rohingya Muslims, which represent one of the four groups of Muslims in Myanmar and have been in trouble since the 1940s. The real problem between this religious-ethnic group and the military-political leadership in Myanmar is not based on religion but national contestation as the Rohingyas have never really accepted being part of Myanmar and vice versa. In fact, in 1947, Mohammad Ali Jinnah had discouraged them from harbouring any secessionist ideas and instead advised them to sort out matters with their state.
Although successive governments in Pakistan claim to have stuck with Jinnah’s advice, Burma accused Islamabad of fuelling insurgency during the 1950s. Despite trying to improve relations by signing of a friendship treaty in 1952, which probably led to the arrest in 1954 by Pakistan of the head of the Mujahid Movement of Burma, relations didn’t improve substantially.
The neo-Islamists today like to imagine that Islamabad must threaten Rangoon with direct intervention in support of the Rohingyas like Field Marshal Ayub Khan did during the 1960s. However, Ayub’s stance had nothing to do with religion but about Burmese refugees crossing into East Pakistan. After 1971, Islamabad lost most of its interest in the fate of Burmese Muslims and Burma. Nor did the civil society ever protest the fate of these people. The neo-Islamists, whom I would define as people with a desire to use religion for geopolitical ambitions, have tried to use the religious identity brush for gaining legitimacy in Pakistan and Burma rather than seriously addressing the problems of Rohingya persecution. In Pakistan, it gets them applause without people realising that stopping persecution was never the intent because if that was the case, then the neo-Islamists would have also condemned the alleged victimisation of the Rohingya refugees by Bangladesh in 2010. In Burma, such a campaign helps build inroads for groups like the Lashkar-e-Taiba that have reportedly developed limited links with some religious militants.
However, it is important to maintain that the Rohingya issue is essentially a non-religious crisis of serious magnitude. Sacrificing these people further at the altar of a clash of civilisations will certainly be criminal.
(To be continued)
Published in The Express Tribune, July 27th, 2012.
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@Rajeev Nidumolu:
Your views are reflecting your nationality and bias to the subject. It is very obvious that you do not even know about basic arguments in Baluchistan and karachi then how can you say it is about migration!
You should be ashamed of yourself if you are Muslim.
Aysha has been focused righter with clarity is analysis. This article has helped me to see burmese issue with right perceptions.
Jinnah's stance was with respect to the Greater Bangal movement. misquote by Aisha saddique and utterly uncalled way of attempt to weight her illogical arguments as if no human rights violation is taking place in Myanmar. focus on the right issue- human rights violation !!
Myanmar doesn't hear UN.Who is Pakistan?? 2 Days ago when UN asked Myanmar to rehabitate and protect Rohingya Muslim community. Myanmar simply replied,"Take them away and settle them in USA.
@Ruby The point is that his RACIAL cleansing. It is NOT ANTI-ISLAM. Yes what is happening in Burma is BAD. I protest against what is happening there.
@yousaf: Dude Pakistan Afghanistan Bangladesh were all part of Ancient India. read authentic history u would know harsh realities. Aurangzeb did horrible things 2 non muslims. Arabs Turks Mongols all killed plundered and brutalized locals. Guru Tegh Bahadur k baare main padh lena. Rajput women would commit Sati 1 avoid being captured and enslaved.
@Sameen:: forget about what is happening there in Burma/Myanmar.We are not at all in any position to help anyone there.We don't even know what actually is happening there,thanks to the way news are covered in our part of the world.As for helping people there,are we not already burdened by 'helping' over some 10 million un-welcome (maan na maan,mehmaans) who have changed even the meanings of 'hospitality' that we have been showing to them over the period.....btw I just got carried away emotionally due to what treatment they have meted us in return. Otherwise all I wanted was to know about your name 'Sameen',where did you get it.It is the loveliest name for me for reasons,God bless you Sameen
One question.. Why has Burmese government refused to issue visas to journalists around the world who want to do independent international coverage of the situation??(as per news even Ansar burni hasnt even been granted 1_...Ooops something is DEFINITELY FISHY going around there!!
Ms Ayesha Siddiqa and the follow up comments miss essential sociological global dimensional point. The issue of Rohingyas is a part of bigger global problem. Rohingyas are loosely termed group of Bengali speaking Muslims who have migrated legally and illegally to Burma over the course of one century till present.They represent the issue faced by Burma and India adjoining Bangladesh. Bangladesh because of its huge population density is unable to deal with the population with its internal resources . This has resulted in massive influx of poor people looking for better opportunity into adjoining areas of India and Burma changing the ethnic composition Late century and present century has seen global migration and displacement of close to 250 million population away from their land of birth to faraway lands. This has caused upheaval because of local resentment and primeval xenophobic fears of being overrun by people of different culture and racial stock . This problem is not restricted single place or region or religion . In some areas where the economy is poor and people struggle for living day by day these issues turn into violence.Karachi, Baloochistan ,Assam , Kurdish area, Latvia, Estonia , Ukraine, Congo, Kosovo.. They are also exaggerated in rich countries with small populations. Ex Scandinavia and Switzerland The powder keg is ready to blow in other countries also which are just on temporary check because of better economy ( Eg Mexicans and Central American illegal migration into US and Illegal South Asian migration into UK). These ethnic conflicts need a global perspective and consensus to how to solve these humanitarian crisis.At the heart of these problems is that humans are basically tribal animals . Nationalism, Ideology,Religion and Language has never been able to overcome this inborn tribalism . How to live in harmony with a person with different culture, religion and race is a problem to be addressed by humanity at large . The basis for the problem is unprecedented global migration to seek better opportunity in distant lands legally or illegally.
This is a simple issue of racial ethnic cleansing, where innocent muslims are being killed in Myanmar because of their religion by the state and other extremists. Why is Ayesha trying to paint this otherwise. It is sad.
Expressing some of the sentiments above, God help the Muslims of Burma. All other Burmese we have never cared about and never will, so they can go get stuffed.
@yousaf: See ! Your understanding of integration is biased as it is slanted towards religion. By going into other people's countries, accepting their hospitality BUT imposing your Qoranic feelings is not integration or decency, it is called duplicity. The rest of the world mostly does not behave in this manner. You need to think "why does everyone have problems with Muslims only"?
Qudos to the author. Fair account of the situation in Burma.
@BruteForce
Astute observation.Brutal in fact.
Pakistan should first stop the massacre of Shia Muslims and Ahmedis Muslims in our own country then talk about an other country
The outrage surprises me.1.It would have never happened on sheer humanitarian basis(needs no explanation) 2. are you sure that there are no Ahmadis among them,no shias,no sufis? Please check before giving vent to your indignation.
the problem here in pakistan is basically illitracy and poorly compiled syllabus throughout the secondary educated .. the main problem is that syllabus is fabricated in such a way that motivates people to add an islamic perspective to every field even to most irrelevent fields like science, literature, politics, art etc.. thus the illitrate madressah driven minds as well as average educated masses view every happening as it is related to islam in one way or other .. This problm can be easily resolved adopting secular syllabus...
after reading all the comments on the article, it feels like the following:
Don't bother about the killings of Muslims anywhere in the world. May it be Pakistan or Burma or Kashmir or Iraq or Syria. I wonder y all these Muslim countries are bring the target of terrorism Pakistan has no authority to intervene in the state matters of BURMA. But the rest of the World has all the authority to interfere in state matter of Pakistan, may it be Mukhtaran Mai or the Shia genocide or Raymond Davis or Drone attacks According to the writer neo-Religious parties are trying to get benefit by promoting such insurgencies in burma, well valid point, but madam very sorry to say, that's how politics works Lets congratulate Burma for spreading wings in the international diplomacy, liberating political system and economic development and don't forget, killing thousands of Muslims in the letter you write to them.May be the pictures posted viral are fake and has no real connection with the current situation in Burma, but still there is Mass murder of Muslims Going on, which should be condemned at every possible level.
In this article the author points out that much of the debate in Pakistan on Burma is un-constructive and built on lame arguments, and that both sides in the debate are basically just trolls using Burma to push their pet agendas.
To which most commenters responded by repeating the same lame arguments that author already talked about. And then those comments received the most "likes" too!
Is anybody actually reading the article before commenting???
In Pakistan religeous minorities are living at the animal level.
@Superficial: "with hundred and thousands of Rohingyan Burmese living in Karachi" ---- Really, where? We must get them and help them go home, Karachi is not a cesspool for all refuse from all over to accumulate here and make life for us even more difficult.
Thnak Dr Ayesha, this is not just an article but brief information of Rohingya issue in historical context. Thanks for passing such information to readers and hope they will look into this issue realistically instead of non-sense clash of civilization rehoteric or lame victomhood
@Arya: with hundred and thousands of Rohingyan Burmese living in Karachi the crisis in Burma is not that global, imo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmesepeoplein_Pakistan
We should not muddle religion into our every relationship. We have enough enmity in the neighbourhood. Let us not add a newer enemy Burma in our long list of enemies. Mind it Burma is spreading wings in the international diplomacy, liberating political system and economic development. How many enemies do we need.
Pakistan never misses to involves itself in global conflicts, and Burma is not an exception. It has inflamed sub nationalism among Rohingya Muslims and will create another Kashmir there in between Burma and Bangladesh. Terrorists have also shown their inclination to get involved in the liberation. It is not just for nothing that Pakistan is called an Islamic laboratory. Only thing is that, it is selective about its experiments. While it has cherry picked Rohingya Muslims, it has left out Uiyghur Muslims for no reason even though the situation is similar.
@mr.righty rightist::According to you,'Muslims refuse to integrate wherever they live'.I wish you were wrong here but you are not.You have 'rightistically' told the truth about Muslims.They sure do not integrate or may be its others who don't (most probably).I again wish that they did,but their hands are tied by the Holy Teachings that say ,'No conversion through coercion',and,'live in peace and harmony with others'.Had the orders been not so strict about dealings with others,Spain would have been a Muslim country today and all in India would have been offering five time prayers along-with Roza,Zakat,Hajj etc.etc.Be rightist not prejudiced (prejudist)
is this really her area of expertise? the write-up clearly suggests that it is NOT.
looks like that she cannot make sense, as other so called liberal intellectuals, that why Pakistanis are (or should) showing a concern over this issue without realizing the fact that there is a significant Burmese population in Pakistan, especially in Karachi. In fact a significant proportion of apparently Bengali population in Karachi is actually Burmese. However, the community is not influential, though large in numbers, due to their slum orientation but they can communicate the sufferings of their community to the local population, through mosques etc, which creates a roar of concern here.
Additionally, the Memon-Gujrati community also have close ties with Burmese Muslims (ever tried Khaosa?), as they do have with Muslim communities in the whole tropical region. The situation in Burma has raised a concern in the community living in Karachi also.
This is where our liberal intellect seriously lacks a perspective, imo...
One interesting contradiction you bring forth is that while Pakistan protest the persecution of Muslims in Burma, they do not say anything when Bangladeshi Muslims do it.
Another similar example is that while Pakistan protest the supposed persecution of Muslims india, they do nothing when China does the same in the case of Uighur Muslims of Xinjiang.
So, clearly the protestation stops when uncomfortable truths have to be faced, while the convenient protests can be continued.
In Bangladesh's case it was because Banglas are Muslims, in China's case it is because China gives a lot of money to Pakistan.
So, the feeling of Islamic brotherhood is easily trumped by Money. Hypocrisy at its best.
@R who writes "I lived in UK for 1.5 years and I saw how many Muslims refused to integrate with the rest."
Recently, I was talking to this Muslim lady who runs an NGO in India. She is a very good friend of mine. She has been an inspiration for me for months.
But, during this talk, we were discussing the evils of dowry system and even women are responsible in milking their parents on the eve of their marriage.
During the usual talk she said "We picked up dowry from India you know. It was never a part of our culture."
In other words, she still considers herself to be a part of a different culture (we know which culture that is) and not Indian at heart. This after several hundred years of being Indian. While this incident hurt me and lost confidence in Muslims, the bigger issue is, Muslims refuse to integrate wherever they live.
And frankly, Muslims in Pakistan have refused to integrate with Pakistan. Otherwise why would you remain a Sindhi, Punjabi, Mohajir, Pakhtoon, Baloch?
You guys have a very confused ideology to look upto. This ideology will keep you backward and poor forever. Even if you are rich, you will remain pathetically ignorant and lead a miserable life.
You have to solve your problems yourselves.
Honest article mam. I hope people take it in true spirit.
I agree with the comments of S. Lets see how many people around the world shed tears for Rohinga Muslims !! So far I did not see any tears coming from OIC 'brotherly' nations nor from 'deepest' friend China. Intriguing !! How about some self-introspection by the Burmese Muslims? Have they integrated with the rest? I lived in UK for 1.5 years and I saw how many Muslims refused to integrate with the rest. Not to mention the harmful preachings in the mosques that continues here in US as well. I hve heard stories about what goes on in Mosques directly from Muslims.
Even though,I'm a non-muslim.I wholeheartedly condemn this massacre of Rohingya muslim,whatever they had done....Killing innocents just for the sake of few is never justifiable..
But at the same time,Pakistani muslim leaders shouldn't have their undies in a bunch just because the targetted ones are muslims..... Did they raise the voice against Syrian muslims? Did they even acknowledge that their best friend China is massacring Uiyghur muslims in Xingjang?
and Lastly,when was the last time,a muslim leader or a muslim majority has openly condemned the violence when the targetted people are non-muslims???
Of course,I dont mean to say that Pakistan should keep quiet when Rohingya muslims are massacred. But they should rather raise the issue with UN,volunteer to send the Peace keeping forces. But openly brainwashing Pakistanis against the "entire-world-wants-to-destroy-islam" theory and sending suicide vest strapped mujahideens is not the answer.
If they do,the Rohingya's will loose the little pity they're currently receiving from the entire world
I would totally agree to the writer, scanning through the web it appears that only Pakistan is concerned about the issue of Rohingya Muslims. I think this mere exaggeration of a trivial issue, all humanity is concerned with the Burmeese Muslims, but we do not support the propangada being created by Islamists group in order to add fuel to fire.
Wrong, as usual. The "treatment" of minorities in Pakistan is not at the genocide level like the Rohingya in Burma. That's a canard spewed by pseudo-intellectuals. However, Pakistan cannot do jack. The natural course is going to be the Rohingya getting support and defending themselves against these atrocities. Instability and more violence, no winners.
So maam, since innocent minority is killed in Pakistan, you think it is OK to kill Muslim minority else where. Sigh on your intellect and thoughts. Injustice is injustice whether done to pro-Americans or anti-Americans or non-Americans.
Please first take care of Pakistan,killing Muslims by Muslims and other minorities . Stop worrying about Burma. our sympathies are with the Burmese Muslims minorities. Saudi Arabia is pillar of Islam. Because of their preaching in Pakistan We are at this stage of civial war.. They should take care of burmese Muslims and provide them shelter in Arabia.
However for me my Muslims in Baluchistan and Tribal areas are first to be considered... Let's first help them...
More than 250thousand Pakistanis languished in refugee camps (slums) for nearly four decades (40 years) in Bangladesh, formerly East Pakistan and there was never any serious effort from the so called religious or liberal parties to repatriate them back home. On the contrary, we had people objecting and protesting the idea of bringing them back simply because they would have disturbed the demographics, yet we know now that Pakistan has played host to 3 million Afghan refugees for over two decades many of whom have taken Pakistani citizenship. Feeling outrage for the Burmese Muslims is a natural reaction, but they are not very different from the 250,000 we abandoned in Bangladesh.
Double standards or politically motivated opportunistic outrage, it doesnt matter for as a nation we have eroded our international credibility by ignoring our domestic responsibilities and foreign protestations with regards to acts of terror in 'other' countries planned and orchestrated from our soil.
I think,may be I am wrong,that we should first reinforce the walls of our own 'for of Islam' before we pay any attention to our "Vassals''.Provided they accept our worrying about them and they think that we can be of any help to them,which at least I don't think we can un-less we are ready to pay very heavy price for doing.Price which we are already paying for helping others at exorbitant rates
long-awaited article, and it sheds light on the penumbra
If we are genuinely and seriously concerned about the plight of Muslims then we should be vocally protesting about the mass slaughter of Muslim civilians in Syria by tanks, artillery barrages and gunships. Or closer to home the unchecked dump and kill operations being carried out against hundreds of Muslim (Baloch) civilians. This solitary focus on Myanmar smacks of hypocrisy.
The people of Burma deserve all the attention be it through aggravations within Islamic movements! The majority of persons and media do not care about the burmese Muslims, simply because their MUSLIM! God help the Muslims of Burma!
"The real problem between this religious-ethnic group and the military-political leadership in Myanmar is not based on religion but national contestation as the Rohingyas have never really accepted being part of Myanmar and vice versa."
That is the real problem with the Muslim populations in many parts of the world. To the Muslim mind the locals are not their brothers and sisters, but the Muslims in the far flung corners of the globe, the ummah, are the real kith and kin. The amount of abuse the mullah at the mosque hurls at the locals, the unbelievers, is unbelievable. The mullah is definitely not the only one here, the entire population agrees with this arrogance, albeit tacitly. This is the primary reason almost anywhere in the world, where there's a sizable Muslim population, is like a tinderbox, tensed and dry, waiting to explode at the slighest provocation.
This author has really painted impartial picture of the whole situation.She is very much right by saying that in Pakistan our internal prejudices and biases are hindrance in the way of understanding the issue.And at the same time we Pakistanis should grow up and stop fighting on every issue and like mature people we should find solution of the problem.
Pakistan have no moral authority to step in Burma internal affairrs or release any policy statement. In Pakistan Muslims are killing Muslims on daily basis. Almost One hundred thousand people have been killed in the last five years. Religious extremists are killing the people in the mosques and markete. 720 Pukhtun elders have been targeted killed in FATA.presently there are two million men and women displaced from their homes in FATA. Earlier three million Pukhtun men and women were displaced from Swat. Killing of members of minorities is a routine. Recently many Shia Muslims are killed in Baluchistan,khuram Agency and Gilgit baltistan. Pakistan is already in isolation in the international community, Pakistan is facing serious charges of exporting terrorism so Pakistan should be very carefully deal this issue.
Good effort to explain the issue.if we treat our fellow humanbeings well in our own country.we can hope someone will listen us too.
wow woman! i am impressed. Can't really add anything to this. She hit the nail right on its head.
Ms. Ayesha Siddiqa got it all wrong on Burmese Rohingya. She applies her muddled logic as well as distorted explanations which makes her article senseless. The Burmese way to Socialism always embedded in ousting the South Asians from Burma. Ne Win pursued these goals passionately and succeeded in driving out the South Asians as well creating a Diaspora. The Burmese Government and the local Burmese did envy Muslims as well as Hindu controlling major part of economy. Ne win Nationalization was to uproot the South Asians as well as to create a Diaspora by chasing them out of Burma. Rohingya are Burmese origin in Rakhine State and the Rohingya happens to be of Muslim religion. The Burmese Government supporting local Rakhine of Bhuddhist origin in creating another Diaspora. Today the Muslim Rohingya of Rakhine State very much natonals of Myanmar and have all the rights as any citizen of Myanmar.
Why is it that Pakistan thinks it has the moral authority to be the spokesperson of the Muslims in South Asia, where approximately 35,000 Muslims have been killed by Muslims in Pakistan alone from 2003 to 2010?
Lets see discussion on solution in the next episode
You forgot another people: the anti-Muslim actors who championed minorities throughout the Muslim world but who are silence when Muslims are at the receiving end.