Cricket tour: Will not let Pakistan play in India, says Shiv Sena
The party said Pakistan is responsible for the 2008 Mumbai carnage and it would not be allowed to play in the country.
Earlier, the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) said that the tour will consist of three One Day International matches.
Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Zaka Ashraf told media that Pakistan was still waiting for a formal invitation for the series, but said "it seems it will surely be held later this year".
"The decision is great and we welcome it. It seems that millions of cricket fans have their wishes fulfilled," said Ashraf in Lahore.
"We are still waiting for a BCCI invitation for the series, but it seems it will surely be held later this year."
Captain Misbahul Haq, speaking to the media, said that everyone enjoys matches between India and Pakistan, including the players. “It gives an environment of competition.”
Muhammad Hafeez said that the invitation from India is good news for the whole world as people across the world were missing Pakistan-India matches.
Earlier in April, President Asif Ali Zardari during a daylong visit to India had requested Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to resume cricketing ties between the two countries.
All bilateral sporting ties including the most sought-after cricket games were stalled after the November 2008 Mumbai attacks, which killed 166 people including some foreigners, blamed on militants based in Pakistan.
Pakistan last toured India in 2007 while India featured in the Asia Cup held across the border in 2008.
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@Ahmer Ali: Shiv Sena is not going to harm the Pakistani cricketers.After all many Pakistani cricketers played in the IPL without any fuss.They will instead destroy the pitch or prevent people from entering the stadium.Dont compare Shiv Sena with the terrorist groups in Pakistan,who walk around armed and kill wat a moments notice.Shiv Sena generally indulges in destruction of property and bashing up of innocent people.There would be no problem if perceived to be sincere in bringing the perpetrators of Mumbai terror to justice.
@Tony Singh: Dude, opinions count in a democracy like India. In a autocratic subdemocracy brainwashing operates on the media like an opinion....
@not-an-indian: Profile us all you want, but if the paper is on net, expect this to happen. If the news concerns us and we have an opinion about it, we will comment.
If Indian government is truly sincere and honest in regard of Pakistan-India cricket matches and shall provide foolproof tight security blanket to both teams while the stay and playing in the grounds then Shiv Sena can't do any thing and can't create any hindrances on this way and his all verbal claims shall be in vein and useless..........
@Pungi: Will any Indian other than Surjeet or Sarabjeet visit Pakistan??
Yes. Next Indians to travel Pakistan in the Pipe are the High Rank Hindu Terrorists, Both Hindu State sponsored Terrorists such as Col. Prohit & Hindu Public Sponsored Terrorists From Shiv Sena and RSS. However , The Mass murderer of 2000 Muslims and Internationally Banned Hindu State Sponsored Terrorist Narendra Modi will not be allowed to travel anywhere until His US Visa Ban is not Lifted.
@Sunita: Good...... We really don't care..... And don't want to know wat you will do......
@mr. righty rightist: If you are all against it, then don't come to the stadiums to watch the match...... Or go and apply to the courts beforehand......
Another great opportunity by Politicians to sabotage Indo Pak relations.
Why cant two countries just play a game ?
The problems between India -Pak will never be solved .
But why is cricket dragged into our relations ?
@hateful Indians Kindly "eff" off and if u want to protest, boycott the series. But I am sure if the series take place, all of u mofos will go and watch the matches (if not in stadiums, then definitely on tv screens).
@mr. righty rightist:
Please read Abu Hamzas statement carefully..he used to recruit..INDIANS not PAKISTANIS....You have a problem in ur country ..fellow frnd..
@Uzair:
SHIV SENA has announed that Pakistan wont play and thts not considered as a Terrorist activity..you should be ashmed of urself...
@Uzair:
Mr. Uzair..NO pakistani support terrorism..we believe that Terrorist have no religeion and no state...PAKISTAN IS A VICTIM OF TERRORISM......if USA India or other country cannot understand than its not my problem...
We are, have paid a heavy price because of this co called war of terrorism...other countries should support us and help us.....if not than Paksitan might become Afgahnistan (era after 1980s).
So please stop blaiming PAKISTANIS....
@Indian:
Yeah the same attitude.......and talk about co operation...pathetic..
@ashok sai:
Answer kashmir first than we will even talk to you....
@antanu g: Thank you. Glad to see there are some sane Indian voices on here though very few. This hatred has to stop. People to people contact through arts and sports is necessary to remove these misconceptions in both our minds about each other. I can tell you from personal experience, when average Indians and Pakistanis sit together socially, the atmosphere suddenly goes from suspicion and underlying animosity to hey, these folks aint that bad as they are made out to be. Give it a chance! There are bad apples everywhere - we seem to have a fair share of them these days because of the war going on in our western neighbour - Afghanistan, which is radicalising a lot of the youth who are unemployed and have nothing better to do. This situation is not something that is so clear black and white - it took years, decades to develop to the point where 10 gun toting morons are able to derail what was at that time (just before 26/11 - our FM at the time, Shah Mahmood Qureshi was IN India when the attacks happened for God's sake) on a good track. The entire purpose of the mumbai attacks was to derail what these extremists saw as a budding new relationship between Pak and India - and we both fell for it and continue to. Sadly. Having said that, India also should provide access to witnesses of the carnage and Kasab himself to our judicial team that was recently in India - they didn't. How can our courts convict anyone without cross examination of the witnesses and the lone terrorist survivor? Cmon!
i am very happy about the BCCI decision. why everyone is focused to destroy India - Pak relationship. Please keep politics out of cricket. We should respect every sport
http://tribune.com.pk/story/397712/lifestyle-will-pakistani-products-find-space-in-indian-shelves/
Read comments of Indians on tribune, they agree to do trade that is in their favor but don't want to play cricket, sheer hypocrisy.
@Babloo: And for those who are against this decision in India, should go and complain to the Indian government. Venting your frustration on a Pakistani newspaper will hardly do you any good infact you will be shown the mirror and you will not like it.
@Asad: shame... indians... hahaha, you must be kidding bro
I will not watch a single frame of this series. Justice for Indian lives lost is more important for me than the so called spirit.
@amalgam: As the gentleman said... losers like you have way too much time to blog and that too on a Pakistani newspaper.. The good indians are busy doing their everyday job and rejoicing
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ah aha . . just thinking of Mumbai attacks.
Mixing sports with politics, indians are sick in the head. Look at them whining and moaning all over the board.
This one time I find myself supporting the Shiv Sena - I normally detest them.
There is no news of Shiv Sena objecting to this. News has been created. Can the write provide a link.
@G. Din et al
" Do you understand now why Indians are here? ..." Yeah, I can give a long answer that would include your psychological profile but suffice to say that we would ignore you if it wasn't for Kashmir. What do bring to the table that that we already not bequeathed on you ? Do you understand that you are an interloper ? Your bitterness and spite is not going to win any friends or arguments. You folks are very little idea about us - it is obvious that you are zero direct knowledge about us and we are not about explain ourselves to you of all people. Ask your script writers to put some some nuance to your scripted spiel.
It is hopeless to expect that cricket can achieve anything in terms of promoting or improving India-Pakistan relations. Shiv Sena, a far right Hindu body, has said that it will not allow an Indian tour by a Pakistan cricket tour. This is not any different from Pakistan's treatment of the Sri Lankan cricket team some time ago, when no one would have thought that people in Pakistan were opposed to Sri Lankans as well. I would urge for the consideration of the governments of India and Pakistan that they should give close thought to the idea of improving the basics first. Without improving the basics, we cannot expect peripherals like cricket or other sports or other cultural activities to take India-Pakistan relations anywhere. We all know what the basics are. V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, 17 July 2012, 0431 IST
@sid "Always jealous and bitter " Are you kiddin !! For what !! the great economy the country is going through since lasst 40 yrs or the great marshal laws !! Anyways CONSOLATION is the best way to feel good about your own country. FEEL it and FILL yourself.
@hamza khan: "@ashok sai: answer about samjhota express as well as the other numerous activities that india is doing inside pakistan."
Difference between Mumbai event and Samjhauta express: 1) The Samjhauta express attack was carried out by an Indian within India. The Mumbai attack was carried out by Pakistanis in India 2) The planner of Samjhauta express is in jail. The planner of 26/11 holds public rallies where he drums up ant-India hatred.
"Other numerous activities that India is doing in Pakistan"
When India accuses Pakistan, it has gone to UN with proof and several Pakistani terror organizations have been blacklisted. Why does Pakistan not do the same, if there is any merit to this allegation?
@My name is Indian
oh man once again u with terrorist crap, we all know who is the biggest terrorist in the region its ur own country. This is what pakistanis are bara dil we allow you to have on website call us terrorist without any problem, if someone try on indian site we all know what will happen. This series is being held in ur country on invitation of ur cricket board go and complain to them.
ET in name of freedom of speech we have to hear we are terrorists shame on u you all.
Playing this meaning less game for meaning less purpose make no meaning full sense.I can take bet with any one this tour was a trail balloon and it burst before it could take off.This will never happen.God save the Cricket board if something untowed happen again which is bound to happen soon than later.I like Pakistani People,they are between rock and hard place.We ought to be more cautious,keep inter action to bare minimum for long time,and slowly build trust,I guarantee that even this won't work,too much hate,distrust and hard feeling between people.Let us start ,all over again and assume it is 1947 and do not commit horrible acts against each other,no use playing the game of chicken and egg who did what,to whom and first?,even this we can not do in a civil way,why then Cricket?Are we grown one enough to be even a reasonable mature neighbor,take vote,I bet my house,immature will win 60:40.Both Pakistani & Indians will agree with me over whelmingly.I'm one who has no malice for any one.I'm neither Hindu/Muslim nor a Indian or Pakistani,just some one who has been around both society and civilization.Let us get along minding our distance a healthy distance of a country mile,which is little over conventional mile,just kidding.Good day.
@gp65:
Any disaster or attack is not a measure of writ. If that had been the case the NY would be the place where no government has any writ since the unfortunate disaster of 9/11 happened there.
But if certain terrorists come out and vow that they will oppose Pakistani match in Mumbai and have a history of digging out the cricket pitch in the past to stop a "scheduled international cricket match" then this is what you call no writ of the government.
basically indian want some thing in favour now.... dont be fooled by them...
i really hope all the Indian friends here on tribune enjoy this newspaper. i think more Indians read it than us Pakistanis. just a advice , stop crying and whining it will not change anything. a crow dies in India and Pakistani agents and terrorists are blamed. good for you , keep living your lives as such. always jealous and bitter. you keep wondering how is Pakistan surviving even after all your support to the anti Pakistan agents, all the blasts , killing of shias , nothing is working. lol. it will never work PAKISTAN IS HERE TO STAY. no matter how hard India and its minions try. have a good day.
I can understand the indian sentiment being negative to this news, but why politicize the game of cricket? The game has nothing to do with politics. The people who enjoy sharing cultural, musical, and sporting ties are not the ones engaging in terrorism and supporting cultural division, be it on either side of the border. In the end, it is normal, moderate, average citizens that will suffer on both sides of the border. That is a win for the terrorists and those trying to divide us. That's just plain stupidity.
@academic: Well,as if all pakistanis are angels who never comment against indians in Indian news board forums..You guys dont even leave Indian music videos in youtube using words like "blackie","Hindu" and other censored words which I cannot say in Express Tribune....
Regarding reception of Pakistan players by Indians....Please watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1M8yqJ_MOuI
@afzaalkhan: Let me see benefit India or Bangladesh got by saying ok to out of turn EU favour to Pakistan.
I know Pakistani would have offered not sending their terrorist to Bangladesh/India in bargain
Don't expect this tour to go through without substantial progress on outstanding terrorism related issues with Pakistan. Anyone with an ounce of common sense will see that the Indian people are VERY angry about the Mumbai attacks.
This tour will be cancelled on Security grounds. This just the BCCI earning brownie points with PCB.
I am not a fan of the Shiv Sena. But they are right in this case, expect other groups to join in protesting this tour. As someone said Congress will be committing poloitical suicide if they allow this to pass.
@academic: There is no hatred for the Pak cricket team - I would assume that every single Indian on this forum wishes them well and many of us have been fans of certain players in the past. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for what Pakistan represents to the average Indian. There will always be peaceniks who refuse to see the ground reality, which is that Pakistan has not budged an inch from its existing position on terrorism (although it is now being gnawed internally by its creations) or 26/11 - so if cricketing ties were put on hold due to this reason, then the resumption of ties is either premature or an admission of failure. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to get through to you.
@hamza khan: Kasab is a RAW Planted Hindu. Otherwise, Let the Pakistani Media talk to him. You will see how quickly we will find out who is he? Look, You as a whole are Liars. What a coincidence that All other terrorists were killed not a single was captured like Kasab. Where in the wrld you have seen terrorists to Go openly keep firing in the streets and other Public places. Could not they do that work by a remote control Bomb? No terrorists in the world will walk in the streets and Hotels and aimlessly kill people until someone kill them. Looks Like they had no aim , just killing whoever comes first. In real world terrorists never show up, they do all work secretly and away from the Public eye. Many more blasts could be done even without wasting their lives. Then karkare was killed by Kasab who suppose to arrive at the same time where karkare was, who was Investigating the involvement of RAW and other Hindu Terrorist Groups Like RSS And Now No one can talk to KASAB. Let him talk to Pakistani Media. They will discover in a Minute What's the name of this Hindu Terrorist. Until This is done, majority will keep believing that it was a Inside Job.
@academic which Indian website you are talking about ? I think now a days scoldings makes you feel good I guess.
Well i love the game and its spirit, however i do not support my team by any means after what happened in 1996... and since then the Team has shown how not to act as team and drag the name in to the mire...
Khair.... With reference to the heading... who asked shiv sina to woof woof
Shivsena yelping continues:P
@maestro: you are pleading to people who have loss all sense of logic my dear. as an Indian I am ashamed of their attitude. these are the people who are causing devide between the two nations. with their biased mind do expect anything else from them.
For those who are upset at the angry reaction that many Indians have expressed at the resumption of cricketing ties, I would say , that you should direct their comments at the government of Pakistan and demand strict action be taken against masterminds of the 26/11 attack on India. Against those that organized it, against those that funded it and against those that recruited and trained the 10 attackers. LeT is UN designated terrorist organization. Its leaders should be prosecuted and punished.
@no one: stupid comment....not very different from Taliban monsters, and still we have the guts to call ourselves better than them.height of hypocricy
come of this drama ,think about future ,who is bal i do not know or i can call him hindu taliban who kill lot of innocent people in india.do not care about this man and play the game and i hope indian people well come u.
@Asad: "@amit: being an indian if you had an iota of shame you and your fellow countrymen would stop visiting pakistani news sites. " Think of Pakistani news sites as battlegrounds. No one is invited to/ allowed/disallowed from a battleground. There is shame only in staying away or running away from a battlefield. People go to the battleground to assert themselves either by force of arms or ideas. Do you understand now why Indians are here? There is nothing you can do to keep them away except to close down the site. If you don't want to see them here, then disengage and run! Indians won't do that!
The comments section is being hijacked by spiteful Indians. It is huge turn-off that a nicely put together news website that can be actually be used constructively by us to discuss our issues is being smeared and spoiled by a dedicated, relentless and obsessive bunch of chauvinistic Indians, all in the name of freedom of speech. I wish there were people from Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey, China, Middle East, US or Europe visiting these pages. But no, as the luck would have it we are stuck with these uppity ones from the east.
how cheap these indians turn sports event into full fledgedpolitical battle.and more,many they cover themselves as muslims.you can cure a disease,not a habit...and still there are some who boast so much abt better relations and culture.
@Babloo
" Its better the two states keep interactions to bare minimum..."
Start with minimizing your obsessive and spiteful comments on a PK news website.
You have to give credit to the mullah brigade or other fringe right-wing groups (except Taliban) in Pakistan. I don't ever remember them protesting hosting India in Pakistan.
'shiv sena' should change their name to 'John cena', coz they always wrestle with people.
@Swapnil Joshi: Yes, is so sad that the worst of India comes on this website. On your own newspapers, people are excited and the series. I would like to remember the warm reception we received in the semi final of wc
The trash of India is out in full force again with their hatred. Go to dawn and read something written by educated Indians...
@Zeeshan Sheikh: Ajmal Kassab is our Hero And so the brain washing continues...
@amit: being an indian if you had an iota of shame you and your fellow countrymen would stop visiting pakistani news sites. As you said we are responsible for killing your countrymen so why shamelessly you have to come here on Pakistani news sites and spend your time and effort you and your fellow countrymen should be avoiding anything related to Pakistan.
Lets put it this way. India says that the 10, 26/11 attackers were Pakistani nationals. India says they were trained, armed and funded by LeT. India says, LeT is a veritable arm of the ISI , to mount terror attacks against India and is protected by the state. India says testimony of Kasav, Daood Geelani in US courts, Abu Jundal and the phone intercepts of the 26/11 attack masterminds operating from Karachi prove this beyond any shadow of doubt.
Pakistan says, it has no evidense or India has not given any concrete evidense of Lashker-e-toiba and ISI's direct complicity in the 26/11 attack that left 166 people murdered in cold blood. Pakistan says, LeT is not a preferred terrorist network of the state.
Those are irreconciliable differences. So why resume cricket ties or soften India's diplomatic posture against alleged state sponsored terror from Pakistan ? Doesn't make sense.
Ajmal Kassab is our Hero. Not sure if he is pakistani or Not.
we don't want to play cricket with India. They smells bad
The more I look at the narrative and rhetoric from Pakistan, the more I am convinced that Mr Jinnah was right. The Pakistan state ideology is incompatible with good relations with Hindu majority India. Its better the two states keep interactions to bare minimum. If cricket relations are resumed and this is followed by anaothor attack by Pakistan state protected LeT , that would make relations even worse because it would be seen as anathor craven act and betrayal of India's gesture. Why create a scenerio that would breed even more distrust ? Distrust happens only when you trust someone.
being an indian i am not support this .we never forget our 166 countrymen who cold blooded murdered by neighbouring country state actor.
This is silly statement by Shiv Sena; they are well aware that none of the 3 matches are likely to be scheduled in Mumbai given the sensitivity and there is nothing they can do anywhere else. Those who want to see the matches will go to the stadium, and millions of others will tune into television regardless of all the justified anger at Pakistan's inaction and prevarication on the 26/11 attacks - so let's separate that from the issue. However, this is an useless goodwill gesture primarily because no one (read the comments) sees the good will aspect in it, and Pakistan is a country without a conscience which will continue doing what it does best regardless of anything India does to normalize relations.
as a mumbaikar i think there was no need to conduct this series in such a hurry as Pakistan has not done enough to bring the culprits to justice.As an indian i strongly oppose it..........................
My fellow pakistanis who are saying that it is their website, so we should,nt be here..they should know that we indians are always curious to know what is running through your mind..
I genuinely hope that this tour goes ahead as planned. India-Pak ties are something that will be very beneficial to BOTH Indians and Pakistanis, so both sides need to drop the arrogant attitude, but I'll admit that the Pakistanis deserve the bigger share of the blame. Our military establishment has lost three wars against India, consumes most of the nation's budget and is only good for flexing its muscle over flimsy civilian governments. It needs to actively drop any support and fight against the cancer of extremism that it has cultivated and tolerated over the past several decades if they want the international community to deal fairly with Pakistan.
These Pakistanis are delusional, like an American deploy at said "pathological liars who no longer even know they are lying " incidentally a Taliban commander says" two faced with two toungues in each mouth " about u guys . It's how oth ur friends and enemies see you as. :)
@123: "To point A. You are saying Indian govt. does not have writ in Mumbai?"
Since Mumbai was the city where the terror attacks happened, it is unlikely that the Mumbai citizens would be happy to see Pakistani players. Secondly, Indian government has more writ on Mumbai than Pakistani government had in Lahore where Sri Lankan cricketers were attacked.
Dear sir, I don't know what the Indian government is trying to achieve by playing with the emotions of Indians like me who have been devastated due to terrorism emanating from Pakistan? How can cricket help in improving ties when the people of India can clearly see that Pakistan has not done anything to bring the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks to justice? We all, in India and Pakistan, need to understand that the Mumbai attack is something that cannot be brushed under the carpet. If Pakistan seriously wants to have good relations with us then they must do something on Mumbai attacks and assure us that that kind of heinous and audacious attack will never take place in the future. We just cannot forget Mumbai attacks and that makes it extremely difficult for us to normalize relations with Pakistan. For me people of India are more important than a game like Cricket. And trust me the Indian players will also be playing Pakistan reluctantly.
@ashok sai: We are not answerable to you dear.....
@Babloo:
To point A. You are saying Indian govt. does not have writ in Mumbai? To point B. If India had any credible proof, Pakistan would have taken action against the so-called masterminds you guys are so obsessed with. Only speaking publically against Indian human rights violations and against Indian govt. policies does not make anyone a mastermind of 26/11. Go get $10M from US if you have proofs.
Two points A. ShivSena has nuisence value only in Mumbai. So Pakistan can play comfortably in all other cities. B. Indian public is not sure why cricket relations are being resumed because they were broken in response to 26/11 attacks and Pakistan government has been conducting as per India, a sham and farcical trial and protecting the masterminds.
Zaka had said that India was afraid of Pakistan. Is it out of this fear that small hearted India has invited Pakistan to play cricket?
I fail to understand why Indians should deal with Pakistan. India should let them stew in their own juice. You never know when they will change their pentra. Do they have any friends?
@Maestro who writes "Second, the recently freed Surjit Singh immediately on setting foot in India admits he was a RAW agent hired by the Indian army"
First of all, RAW answers to our government. RAW does not answer to our military. Second, you make up your mind if he was a RAW agent or he was hired by Indian military.
Second, He never admitted that he worked for RAW. He only said, he was spying. Perhaps he was, for the BSF.
Third, spying is not terrorism.
"Third, the unrest in Balochistan was admitted by your PM in Sharm el Sheikh to have an Indian hand in it!"
Hahaha, our PM never admitted this at Sharm-el-sheikh. FYI, even if India does something like that, an Indian PM would be extraordinarily stupid enough to admit that.
"extremist and violent actors like Shiv Sena and RSS, we have our own too who cause us more problems than do to you."
Yes, I remember, it was Shiv Sena which trained and sent terrorists to kill innocents in Karachi.
"but you can blame our corrupt and incompetent politicians/leaders for their inaction – don’t blame a nation of a 180 million for the evil of a few"
Well, we have to blame 180 million because you elected your government.
@hamza khan: Wrong. Kasab has been questioned by Israeli and US authorities too. It is a habit in Pakistan to just cook up something and present it like the truth. No wonder you have so many issues.
@maestro who writes "Dear sir, the ball rolls both ways. Why don’t you hand over the indian army colonel responsible for the samjhuata express massacre of over 60 Pakistanis burnt alive??"
Why do you Pakistanis lack common sense? Is it so expensive? people in pakistan roam around with hand guns and a.k.47s, can't u people buy some common sense instead?
Samjhauta express blast took place in Indian soil. The criminals will be tried in India. Is it so hard to understand?
@AV Bhagowal:
hahaa...india is a 'strategist par excellence'. is that why the country has not gotten a UN seat for the past 8 years? great strategy...
@ashok sai:
answer about samjhota express as well as the other numerous activities that india is doing inside pakistan.
The decision is great and we welcome it. It seems that millions of cricket fans have their wishes fulfilled,” said Ashraf in Lahore. It is not for the million of fans but for the millions of rupees that PCB and Pakistan Government is requesting India again and again to resume cricket between the two countries. It is always Pakistan requesting India and not the other way around. Only if Pakistan has showed this much interest and acted in bringing the culprits and masterminds behind Mumbai attacks to justice, Indians would have had no problem in letting the Pakistanis play in India. When it comes to punishing the masterminds of Mumbai attackers, Pakistan is not acting and when it comes to Cricket which will bring millions to PCB, they are pleading again and again to let them play India. In this situation, any Indian will not like the Pakistanis to set foot in India.
President Zardari, Mr. Zaka Please show some dignity STOP this policy of appeasment.We will not die if we will not play cricket with india PCB should say NO to this proposal.It was India who cancel Pakistan tour.They should come to Pakistan, if they are not ready play on neutral venue.But no visit to India till Their visit to PAKISTAN
As a Pakistani citizen I am ashamed and horrified by the acts of violence and hatred committed by my depraved and blinded fellow citizens in and outside Pakistan. I completely understand Indian reluctance to do anything with us and I wish my fellow citizens would put off their blinders and stop supporting xenophobia, hate, and terrorism.
@vickram: Dear sir, the ball rolls both ways. Why don't you hand over the indian army colonel responsible for the samjhuata express massacre of over 60 Pakistanis burnt alive?? We don't care if he is serving time in an indian "prison"! We don't care if it was done on indian soil - fact is, he butchered over 60 Pak men, women and children in cold blood. He must be held accountable to Pak justice not India's. Second, the recently freed Surjit Singh immediately on setting foot in India admits he was a RAW agent hired by the Indian army - and blames them for deserting him! lols. Third, the unrest in Balochistan was admitted by your PM in Sharm el Sheikh to have an Indian hand in it! This unrest has taken hundreds if not thousands of innocent Pak lives ok? So before you start harping on 26/11, look in the mirror first. I doubt any Pakistani actually supports the 26/11 attacks - me and family were all deeply shocked and saddened while we watched it happen on tv and we kept praying there were no Pakistanis involved. But you on the Indian side have to remember that just like you have your non-state extremist and violent actors like Shiv Sena and RSS, we have our own too who cause us more problems than do to you. I personally want the Hafiz Saeed's, Dawood Ibrahim's etc out of my country - but you can blame our corrupt and incompetent politicians/leaders for their inaction - don't blame a nation of a 180 million for the evil of a few - just like we dont judge all of India by the likes of Shiv Sena and RSS. Cheers and peace.
I'm an Indian n Mumbaikar (although working in B'lore since past 3 months) n amazed by the reaction of Indians here..
I can tell to fellow pakistanis - Most of us here are happy about this series n busy rejoicing, hence don't hv time to blog
This reminds me of the second Indo-Pak war. India's magnanimity was projected as the defeat of India by Bhutto. When will India learn it's lessons?! *Sigh*
@Farman: Mr. Farman, why don't you try to be in their shoes and understand their point of view. Would you have felt happy if Mumbai like incident happened in Pakistan with help of Indian establishment's support and God forbid, your near and dear ones lost life? It is always easy to say "move on", so long such things happen to other people, not ones own.
@AA: Inspector Karkare was Chief of Anti Terror Cell; He was not sent to the forefront, it was his duty to be on the road where there were reports of terror activity. He was not aware of the magnitude of the attack going on then and he under-estimated the power and scale of the attack.
Millions saw him wear the bullet-proof jackets on live TV. As a person who was fond of giving TV interviews, he started off in full public glare, even wearing bullet-proof jackets in front of TV cameras. (In fact, the uncharitable were saying that the Chief of ATS was starting his campaign like a man dressing up for going to a baraat.)
You are one of those senseless people fed on a steady diet of conspiracy theories. Even if the terrorists come and admit they did it, you will not accept it.
We, Indians, don't care if Pakistan really punishes the 26/11 culprits; but, what hurts us most is the you, the millions of Pakistanis have no remorse and you keep on denying it. That hurts us so much. That's why we don't any of you to set your foot on our soil. That is why, we will not spend our money watching these matches so that your bankrupt board can pay its bills.
what a shame !
the innocent people of Mumbai killed by terrorists are roaming free in pakistan
and here we play cricket with Pakistanis
we should NOt play with Pakistan I hope government of India realises this fact
before things go out of hand and people start coming out on streets against this stupidity
and send all Pakistani artist working in India back to Pakistan
its more than cricket ... this tour should be cancelled in protest ... for the indian "woman" ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/13/india-campaign-debate-female-foeticide?INTCMP=SRCH
I am not much of a cricket fan but I am a true believer of justice. First justice first before anything else.
To my fellow commentators from across the border:
If you feel really feel betrayed and disgusted about BCCI's decision just boycott the series, don't watch or buy tickets to any match. And if you do, you know who you are.....
If BCCI really had the spine, it would have pulled out from the WC semifinals, but instead we witnessed a jam packed stadium
Most Indians are against this.
Indians want pakistan to be isolated. We are accommodating people.
You put your Hafiz Saeeds behind bar and India will visit Pakistan.
Until then, we are dead against Pakistan's visit to India. However, given how muslim-appeasing Manmohan's government is, I don't expect rejection from the government.
@Indians:
My comment wasnt to denounce this tour; but to remind BCCI that we await to see them too on our homegrounds - be it Pakistan or UAE! Bring on the tests and T20s.
To all indians:
Why you guys crying abt 26/11 and tour on pakistani website if you guys have such issue take it with your own govt. BTW nations donot do each other favor its mutual benefit that make things happen, so spare us that you are doing PCB any favor. Its very simple ask your own govt to cancel the tour or stop crying abt 26/11 and move on. But whatever you do for God sake stop whinning on pakistani news sites.
@all indians
If you guys are so angry and want to talk abt 26/11 so much why don't you follow bangladesh example and file a petition in indian courts or talk to your govt why crying here? I personally don't want pakistanis to visit india i think its a stupid decision from PCB and Pakistani govt, but its really annoying to see indians crying about 26/11 and don't want Pak to tour on pakistani news site, here is a clue cry to your own govt and btw spare me you doing us a favor in international relations no one does anyone any favor it is mutual benefits. Or admit it your govt got outplayed by pakistan :p
I support Sunil Gavaskar. There should be no tour. The Mumbai wound is still raw. And Pakistan High Commissioner saying that no one in Pakistan was involved.
@Oops!e: first save your own countrymen even in your financial capital. promise at the cost of life? first ask bengladesh and srilankans.
Pakistani public should not be overly excited by this news. As an Indian in current situation, I don't want Pak team to visit India in near future keeping the security of its player and the Indians in the stadium in mind. Still the Mumbai massacre is live in peoples mind and I will not be surprised to see BCCI withdrawing from this by seeing public anger. But as a Cricket lover I would love to see the matches in neutral venues. N.B: No offense meant..Its my personal opinion.
@AA
Two different things. Since Pak would be the host commercial success or failure is pak headache, if we can't make money thats fine but we will be hosting and would have full series instead of 3 ODI which is very unfair to indian players who are being overworked by thier board. Secondly, since India is host how it is economically better for Pakistan and what will pakistan gain by touring india?
Lastly just read indian comments to know how much good will exist for pakistan, series between india and pakistan is different and is not comparable with other countries. Lets not forget India warned Srilanka not to tour pakistan before that ill fated tour of Srilanka to pakistan, india also pressurized Bangladesh not to tour pak. So unless India tours pakistan, pakistan doesn't gain anything, we have lost allies by making asian block and towing indian board once again we follow same path.
@Nasir Mahmood: India touring pakistan ? sorry bro it should not happen , untill countries like AUS, SA, NZ and England tour pakistan, then only ind should tour pakistan..... do u want us to get killed.... when u have Hafeez saed and Laksher-e-taiba ( banned by UN and declared terrorist) declaring Jihad on ind, and the west , and openly in the streets buring indian and other western countries flags..not to forget the Osama episode..wht makes u think pak is safe foe touring ?? think logically......
@Nasir Mahmood: hope the Indian Government will approve BCCI’s request Dude its the BCCI budging to the Indian Govt's pressure to play with Pakistan and not otherwise. BCCI did not want to play Pakistan actually...
@Oops!e: And just to clarify (You are forcing me to say this), it is India which is doing a favor, not the other way around. It was PCB which has been lobbying (and rightly so) to re-initiate cricket ties between both countries. It is a positive step - lets feel good about it.
@Oops!e: "India must have promised a tour in return of this; but we all know thats never going to happen. India and its promises. Phuff!"
If there is one thing people on both sides need to be cautious about - it is ppl like you and comments like these. No country in its right mind will promise any tour to Pakistan - not even Bangladesh and Srilanka. Please divert your collective energy on improving the situation in your country - ake it safe for your own people and then - only then - invite others.
@Oops!e
Do not speculate. Very easy to blame India on some self-imagined thought.
At this time no team is willing to tour Pakistan. However, Pakistan touring India later this year is certainly a welcome news for the fans from both the sides.
India must have promised a tour in return of this; but we all know thats never going to happen. India and its promises. Phuff!
@Eeman: @afzaalkhan: Because hosting a series in UAE doesn't make financial sense - It is economics - simple.
And, no one, including BanglaDesh, is coming to Pakistan to play cricket, still Pak team is touring every country. Why do you guys become myopic the moment the other country is India ?? Double standard everywhere!!!
And, Congraulations to the PCB, BCCI and fans on both sides of the stupid border - we can enjoy some fierce Cricket again...
What an stupid decision by this congress gov . This gov must go . Inviting pak team , they are inviting more Kasabs and Headly . Shall we name this series Kasab-Headly Series ?Lets see How this series happen in India .. Protest will be erupted against this decision of Indian gov ...
@ashok sai & Raw is War
Talk to your govt and BCCI why you coming on pakistani newspaper site to cry about it. Obviously your govt doesn't agree with you. If you have an issue talk to your govt,
and we should make sure that Mr. Bal Thakery greet our players with a Pakistani Flag in his hand. Thank you
There are two organizations in the world without which Pakistanis can't lead better lives; IMF and BCCI.
I would suggest all to visit the website of Times of India and read the hundreds of hate comments reaction of Indians to this series. Shame on us that we are dying to play with such people who insult us like this.
Good News. Go Pak Go. Go for a 3 nil :P
Just three ODIs..... This tour should have included test matches and T20 as well.
good news,im hoping to see the talented 18 yr old youngster shahid afridi in action.
I believe the good days of cricket in Pakistan are coming back and hope the Indian Government will approve BCCI's request and BCCI will reciprocate by sending Indian cricket team to Pakistan.
Will divert to you after toss! Next please?
This is good news.However, we must move cautiously and shun emotional outbursts to broadcast that India has done a great favour. Bangladesh tour episode should not be lost sight of.Stable nations take matters in slow stride and react more realistically to such events which first appear to be do or die but somehow fizzle out later.Moreover, the treatment we have received in recent time from even our friends has been far from neutral and India is a strategist par excellence in such matters.Anyhow, the efforts of PCB are commendable and it should continue to pursue such endeavors multilaterally to bring back cricket to our own stadia.
God work by Zaka in promoting bilateral ties. However, since no formal invitation or letter has been issued, it would have been best to wait for confirmation before releaseing such news.
Insulting.
why PCB why? Stupid decision. Ind owe us a tour, if they don't want to come to pak then we can have tour in UAE why Pak team going to India?
Answer Mumbai first then we think of playing.
Hope to see some good cricket
Good News
Three T20s will just add the right pinch of salt in the spice of tour!!!!!
November 2008 Mumbai attacks, which killed 166 people including some foreigners, blamed on militants based in Pakistan.
what is there to blame? Its common knowledge now. So Kasab materalised through thin air?
Pakistan Cricket Team should start Preparations for this great event...I want Pakistan to win every match against India,Thumbs up if you want the same....
Will any Indian other than Surjeet or Sarabjeet visit Pakistan?? Why always Pakistan and only Pakistan?