The arrest of the mastermind behind the Mumbai attacks, Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Hamza alias Abu Jundal, has sparked tensions between India’s Intelligence Bureau (IB) and Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) over the question of who coordinates his arrest.
The electrician who went on to become one of the most wanted terrorists in India was arrested at the Indira Gandhi International Airport – according to senior officials, the entire operation to track down Hamza was coordinated by the IB. Officials also say that Hamza arrived on a commercial flight and not on a special flight arranged by RAW.
Meanwhile, the IB has gotten to work on extracting as much information from the terrorist as possible on his role in the Laskhar-e-Taiba (LeT) network and the alleged involvement of Pakistani state actors in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, in which 166 people were killed.
Investigators have elaborated that though Hamza has admitted that he had a role in the Mumbai attacks and acknowledged that he was constantly talking to terrorists during the attack, he has not volunteered information about the involvement of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).
“We have matched his voice sample from the recorded conversation during the Mumbai attack. Although he is talking about his role in giving Hindi lessons to terrorists and also identifying places in Mumbai, he is not ready to give information about the involvement of ISI in the attack,” said a senior officer. Investigators are also finding it difficult to get information on LeT sleeper cells present in India.
Senior officials elaborated that Ansari was a hardened terrorist whose main job was to identify and indoctrinate recruits.
Ansari also told investigators that he was initially given the code name Abu Hamza and it was later changed to Abu Jundal in 2008, because his LeT handlers didn’t want him to be identified during the investigations into the Mumbai attacks.
During the course of interrogation, Hamza also identified the people whose voice was recorded by intelligence agencies during the attack. Hamza told the investigators that around 8-10 people were present in a safe house in Karachi, which acted like a control room during the attack.
The wanted terrorist has also confessed that not all the ‘handlers’ were present at the control room at the same time.
Investigators believe that the terrorist mastermind joined the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) at the behest of a school senior after the 2002 riots in Gujarat. After completing the initial process of indoctrination, Hamza was sent to Kashmir for training in small arms.
Intelligence agencies had first found Hamza to be involved in suspicious activities during the investigation into an attack on the Indian Institute of Science (IISC) in 2005. Even though Hamza managed to avoid getting arrested, his name came up again when Mumbai police recovered weapons from Aurangabad in 2006.
Senior officials said that Ansari has also confessed to helping LeT recruits plant seven bombs in Mumbai in July 2007, which was the first major coordination between LeT and the Indian Mujahideen (IM).
Even though Ansari was wanted by several police organisations, he has managed to enter India twice between 2006 and 2007 through Bangladesh and Nepal.
Ajmal Kasab, also accused in the Mumbai attacks, had identified Hamza’s voice earlier in recorded conversations for investigators. Kasab told the investigators that Hamza was closely involved in the training. Hamza also taught Hindi to the 10 Pakistani nationals involved in the Mumbai attacks. The two Hindi classes took place just days before the attack. Hamza is a resident of Beed, in Maharashtra state.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 3rd, 2012.
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@GreenSk
Thank you Green Sky...
As a Pakistani I felt sickened and saddened when mumbai attacks happened! WHOEVER is reponsible should be punished no matter where they come from!
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@from India I accept facts, and facts are undeniable. i also have the ability to think myself rather than be another person who listens what he is told and does his bidding without asking any questions or thinking for himself. The fact is there is absolutely no evidence to corroborate the statements that the Indian government has made. When he is convicted, i will look at the evidence that is presented. till then, he, like anyone else is innocent until proven guilty
@Lala Gee: If you had bothered to go to WIKIPEDIA and search for "26/11", you would have been redirected to the "2008 Mumbai Attacks" which is a detailed review of the incident. There you would have seen the following;
On 9 December, the ten attackers were identified by Mumbai police, along with their home towns in Pakistan: Ajmal Amir from Faridkot, Abu Ismail Dera Ismail Khan from Dera Ismail Khan, Hafiz Arshad and Babr Imran from Multan, Javed from Okara, Shoaib from Narowal, Nazih and Nasr from Faisalabad, Abdul Rahman from Arifwalla, and Fahad Ullah from Dipalpur Taluka. Dera Ismail Khan is in the North-West Frontier Province; the rest of the towns are in Pakistani Punjab.[126]!!!
So much for your lack of "identities"!
The bloke is still silent because India's IB and RAW in collaboration with Bollywood have not yet finished scripting what he is to state. Period.
@Sky: Do not compare the two events. The difference between Mumbai attacks and Gujarat riots is in Mumbai attacks Pakistan army, intelligence service and government were complicit whereas in Gujarat riots that was not the case. That is why the world considers Pakistan bad nation.
@Yuri Kondratyuk: BTW, although I am a Pakistani, my comment was not meant as a respond to the Indian trolling that ET allows to make money. My comment was a simple statement of journalistic standards where the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' is nonexistent. Personally, if he did commit the act of terrorism, then he should face punishment, I dont care if hes Pakistani or not. Im not a person to get into stupid Pakistani v. India arguments!
@Yuri Kondratyuk: how do you know that he confessed and what his confession was? the indian government CLAIMS he confessed. have they shown any signed document, any video of his confession, ANYTHING that will convince you? he has not even been brought in court, let alone a judgement passed that says he is guilty. we have nothing to go on except the word of the indian government/security agencies. that sadly for a man like me who has some ability to question substantiative claims, is NOT ENOUGH! my friend, this is the problem with most indians and pakistanis. we have no concept of 'innocent until proven guilty'. in indians its worse because you guys are ridiculously naive. pakistanis at least question their government, you guys drink the koolaid that is presented to you.
@Yuri Kondratyuk: Sure. He’s in jail. No, he is not In Jail. He is in the Protective Custody of the Indian State.Hand that criminal and Hindu Terrorist to Pakistan . It was the Pakistanis he Killed. Hand Over this Hindu State Sponsored RAW Terrorist to Pakistan for Pakistani Train blast in which This Hindu terrorist Planted Bombs and Killed 65 Pakistanis and was Blaming on ISI..
@Lala Gee:
Sure. He's in jail.
@Sky: No.No..No.. Gujarat violence is purely communal with retaliations.... where as in Mumbai attack, innocent civilians of all communities who were doesn't know anything of that sorts, were suffered a lot.
@Lala Gee: DNA collected from the terrorists needs to be double checked from somewhere else and the Pakistani agencies are the obvious bottleneck in helping here and they could have vested interests or they are covering their tracks. The one terrorist that is alive is a Pakistani national (accepted by the Pakistani govt. itself).
Also Col. Purohit is an Indian National convicted in India for a crime and is in jail. Yes he killed Pakistani nationals and should be punished for it. (For me it isnt relevant whether he killed Indians or Pakistanis, hes a murderer and deserves to be in jail just like the mumbai terrorists and planners).
Col Purohit as well as people from the Indian agencies obviously werent involved in the Mumbai attack cause the Indian media, no matter how useless and biased it is would have exposed it. I will not be naive and say that there was no local support from people in India in terms of logistics for the mumbai attack but the attacks were planned and carried out by Pakistanis. The facts are in front of all of us to see. No one is saying all Pakistanis are terrorists. but there are bad apples both in India and Pakistan which need to be taken care off. As long as Pakistan cóntinues using strategic assets to enhance its geo-polical position, it will always be the first country to be blamed for all terrorist attacks cause in most cases their will be involvement from Pakistanis.
Its an impossible for Pakistan to defend its positiong and often results in Pakistanis having to feel shameful about something that isnt their fault and also at times results in them living in denial. Everybody (India, Pakistan...etc) needs to clean up their own house, its just that pakistan has alot of cleaning to do.
Terrorism is an international problem. Terrorists donot belong to one country. They are followers of a cult of violence. This fact should be accepted by Pakistan and it's people and if they find any suspicious person make sure that action is taken against him. If Pakistan is going to take this as a prestige issue it won't help.I felt very sad to see Mr Ashraf's sad face after the cricketing nations declined an invitation to play in Pakistan. The people of Pakistan should expose the bad elements in society and this will ensure peace and prosperity in this once affluent area of the world, Pakistan in the long run. And then I will sing 'tumko khush dekh kar mai bahot khush huwa'[huwee],.
Brothertly Love.
@Lala Gee: The Govt of Pakistan has agreed that it was carried out by non-state actors (mening Pakistanis). So it is the responsibility of Pakistan to confirm or deny their identy.
@Jpy: Same names also corroborated by David Headley
@Jpy:
"Sources in the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS), which is keeping tabs on the developments in Delhi, where Jundal is being interrogated, said Jundal has named Major Iqbal, Major Sameer Ali and Colonel Shah of the Pakistani army"
I somewhere read a name of a serving Indian Army Col. Prohit. Do you mind telling me a bit more about him.
@Lala Gee: You havent bothered to read the Indian dossier,which was given to Pakistan.The names of all terrorists are mentioned in the dossier.No wonder you guys follow the govt line and cry for more evidence
@WoW:
"India has given the DNA samples along with the faces and finger prints to Pakistan. Pakistan is still sleeping on it. Please ask your govt."
Didn't answer my question. What is so special not to publicly disclose their identities. Name and addresses please?
@Lala Gee: 'Can any Indian tell us the identities of the 9 other allegedly killed terrorists along with their addresses. I am sure most of them, if not all, would be Indians as is their handler. Why their identities not disclosed and confirmed by DNA testing?' India has given the DNA samples along with the faces and finger prints to Pakistan. Pakistan is still sleeping on it. Please ask your govt.
@ayesha_khan: "Why are you waiting?" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ He is waiting cause he has nothing to show!
@Sky: "Violence breeds violence. Mumbai attacks were unfortunate and so were Gujarats riots."
Agreed. The burning of pilgrims lin a train in godhra lead to Gujarat riots. Violence breeds violence.
@Wajib: RAW does not issue Pakistani passports and ID cards to Indian Nationals
@pakistanibaloch: "was mumbai attack was horrible than GUJRAT RIOTS"
Actually yes. Riots are exactly that both sides are killing each other. 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus died. DO not forget those riots were triggered by Muslims burning a bogey of Hindus including women and children.
Also, the Indian media condemned the episode and riot accused were tried and many dozens have been convicted, Even at the time police tried to contain the riots but was unsuccessful. Preventive arrests of 17,947 Hindus and 3,616 Muslims were made. In total 27,901 Hindus and 7,651 Muslims were arrested. Nearly 10,000 rounds of bullets were fired in police shootings that killed 93 Muslims and 77 Hindus.
After 2 days of rioting when police could not control, the army was called in and the rioting stopped.
YEs Gujarat riots were unfortunate. But cannot be compared with this planned cold bloded murder and mayhem that was unleashed on Mumbai.
@vasan:
"Gujarat riots have nothing to do with Pakistan as it is an internal matter for India"
Of course, it is internal matter of India when you massacre over 2000 innocents in Gujrat and Bombay each, or kill 5000 Sikhs in a go, or exterminate over 90,000 in Kashmir. However, it becomes an international matter when the government in Libya or Syria try to overcome foreign sponsored insurgency and a few instigators get killed. It also becomes an Indian, hence international, issue when a Hindu girl in Pakistan embraces Islam and marry a Muslim boy, or a few Shias or Hazaras are killed by your stooges (TTP). As I can recall, you were among the most vociferous critiques.
@Ali Sadozai: I applaud your comment.India wants the perpetrators to be brought to justice.Nothing more .Nothing less.However I fear that you are in a minority.The number of recommendations and comments that it was an inside job show which side most readers are on
@kashif: "indians. indians. we are just waiting for the time when pakistan decides to make public indian hands in Balochistan and TT"
Why are you waiting?
Here is the true news
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/26/11-Abu-Jundal-names-same-Pak-army-officers-as-Headley-did/articleshow/14619870.cms
@Wajib: "It has been clear from day one that this is all the handiwork of RAW in desparate bid to implicate Pakistan but ultimately the truth has come out"
Some questions for you: 1. If he was a RAW agent, why would India need to extricate him from Saudi Arabia? 2. Why would Pakistani government gove a Pakistani passport to a RAW agent? 3. Why would Pakistani governmeht try so hard to block the extraditiont o India for a RAW agent? 4. What exactly is it in the news that led you to the conclusion that this is a RAW aent?
Can any Indian tell us the identities of the 9 other allegedly killed terrorists along with their addresses. I am sure most of them, if not all, would be Indians as is their handler. Why their identities not disclosed and confirmed by DNA testing?
@Vikas you have no proof of Hafiz involvement. Even your BFF the US has admitted it has no proof against Hafiz Saeed. Shouting out a lie from the rooftops repeatedly will not turn it into the truth, your clutching at straws and need to start working on your intelligence agencies, who seem to be sitting on their hands and letting terror attacks happen under their watch. We already have our hands full with terror attack on our borders as well as our soil, if our ISI was indeed that effective it would have focused solely on India and prevented attacks that happen within Pak.
The allegation, that the ISI might have been involved in the Mumbai attacks in 2008 doesn't generate good publicity for the ISI. When it comes to safeguarding national security, all means justify the ends. The ISI is no worse than the Mossad, ICA, MI 6 et al.
Stupid Indians (govt and their troll media) tried their best to prove Pakistan's role in Headley trial in US but failed and now giving another try through this guy but we know, so as they know nothing will be proved. Infact if anything has been proved yet is - all "Indians" involvement. Heck, even this guy is an Indian so as SIMI. Nothing against LeT has been proved lol..its really funny to see Indian side of the journalism where they are posting headlines like they were shooting any bollywood movie. For e.g 10 men were present in a Karachi cell who were directing these robotic militants lol ..see they even know the exact number of guys presented in Karachi cell :P and for more mirch masala the office was run by ISI haha
I guess newton sahab said some where every action get reaction so indiano friendos please dont forget what u guys did in Gujrath and in Mumbai before these attacks. CIAO have a nice day.
@Frantic Coz the whole incident was purposeless. if it was from pakistanis then they must have had a plan instead of going for a random gunfire??? what did they achieve?
That is a question you should ask Hafeez Sayeed
As far as our Govt is concerned, well man thats LAME diplomacy…. they dont represent the true sentiments of the masses nor do the masses believe that the Govt. does anything in the national interest
So then who represents true sentiments of Pakistan if the government doesn't? LeT??
The way this whole incident was carried out tells everyone that it was an INSIDE JOB
How, because one of them had saffron thread around their wrists??? lol!
Information need to be taken as suspicious....Every new day comes with new piece of Information..............I dont think Intellingence agencies keep on releaseing information at this pace
what do you mean by "alleged mastermind" ? seriously you never intend to accept the truth !!
Dear @Wellwisher: if two Pakistanis are killed in far away Argentina by a local then the local can be arrested and tried according to the law of the land. Pakistan is involved only to the extent that the next of kin are informed. In the same way if this local was involved in the killing of Pakistanis in Karachi he can be arrested and tried and convicted as per Pakistani law. If he has directed the killing of Pakistanis in Karachi via long distance then Pakistan has the right to ask for his extradition. So there's no way India can or will hand over any person involved in the samjhota incident. Hope you have understood how international law works.
@AR
India did not ask Pakistan to Handover Hafies saed, India asked Pakistan to bring culprits behind the bars, In case of Samjota incident, India took initiative to go to the roots of the incident thats why all those responsible are already behind the bars. No one roaming freely,
Electing Modi or Sonia for PM post is internal matters of India you dont need to worry. Likewise you are free to elect Hafis Saed or Nakvi we dont care. Modi already got clean chit from SIT.
Samjhota bombers are already arrested and in prison in India as the crime happened in India Mumbai massacres were from Pakistan, as agreed to by Pak govt as well and that too with Pakistani state support Gujarat riots have nothing to do with Pakistan as it is an internal matter for India
The above facts have to be incorporated in Pakistan books and newspapers(everyday) and drummed into the Pakistani ears, so that the Pak trolls do not repeat that ad nauseum and we dont have to reply then again.
Why is ET publishing this biased news article against our own agencies? what a joke. @mr. righty rightist, pathalogical liar huh? Who said Surjeet Singh was not our spy?
@mr. righty rightist: Isolate Pakistan? Do you have anything better to do? you are a regular at this site and always seem to be cynical regardless off whats being discussed, be it cricket, politics, entertainment or anything. Is this your full time job my friend? if not, find yourself an Indian site and polute it to your hearts content.
was mumbai attack was horrible than GUJRAT RIOTS
@mr. righty rightist: I think the mumbai incident is proving to be very costly for Pakistan as a nation. For this entire generation even longer....
@BruteForce: Coz the whole incident was purposeless. if it was from pakistanis then they must have had a plan instead of going for a random gunfire??? what did they achieve?
pakistani national...? well, who's gonna decide that?
As far as our Govt is concerned, well man thats LAME diplomacy.... they dont represent the true sentiments of the masses nor do the masses believe that the Govt. does anything in the national interest.... so their accpetance doesnt prove anything.
The way this whole incident was carried out tells everyone that it was an INSIDE JOB
The best part of this article is where it says that Saudi Arabia, an Arab country (Pakistan claim to be from Arab decedent) hands over a Pakistani terrorist to India. Love you KSA.
indians. indians. we are just waiting for the time when pakistan decides to make public indian hands in Balochistan and TTP. it is only about when westerners leave afghanistan. every thing will be "normal" again. you indians, just wait and see..
Im a Pakistani. In all honesty and fairness, whatever happened in Mumbai was utterly horrible and cannot be justified with any reasoning or historical or political context. This is an absolute fact. I hope no politics are made out of the current investigations. I hope India carries it out objectively and Im praying that no official involvement of Pakistan is found. At the same time, if it turns out to be otherwise, I hope we the Pakistani people would be fair and take those to task if anyone is found involved beyond a doubt and (also named) from our side.
@AR:"@All the Indian trolls. How about handing over the samjhota express bomber to Pakistan , who murdered 90 Pakistani’s?" I pity your innocence or ignorence. Dont know which one. The perpetrators are already behind bars and also the incident happened in India so logically he should be incarcenated in India, the place where the crime has taken. To put it in other way, if a murder or theft happens in a particular locality, then police will file FIR where the murder was commited not where the theif was found. When ever he is found he handed over to them. That is the reason there is something called Extradition, if a crime is commited and if the culprit absconds to a foreign country. Choose to accept or ignore. You alone will be the benificery. Rgds P
@Frantic:
If it was an inside job, why was a Pakistani national caught on CCTVs, TV cameras, citizen's cameras and ultimately in the brave policeman's hand who held on to him despite the injuries he sustained during the gun fight with Kasab and his partner who were ultimately killed?
Your own Govt has accepted Kasab to be a Pakistani. Why are you so neck deep in denial?
@Khaled: Do you really want to know why Saudi Arabia has deported Abu Hamza to India inspite of Pakistan desperately wanting him back. It's Because of evidence my friend and they are a law abiding country unlike some other countries. And the fact that you have raised this question proves one thing very clearly you have just acknowledged that Abu Hamza had something to do with 26/11!
@sky, Gujrat riot happened more than10 years back & several of them has been punished. We condemn it. What about atrocities on Minorites in Islamic countries on day to day basis. Thousands of mosque & church are constructed in India ever year. How many of temples and churches are destroyed in Islamic country every year. Dear friend Science & technology is the religion in modern world. Early you understand, early you start contributing to human race.
@All the Indian trolls. How about handing over the samjhota express bomber to Pakistan , who murdered 90 Pakistani's? How many Indian state elements were involved in that murderous act ? Why so mum and act innocent on that atrocity? You guys act as if you are Angels and can't do no wrong . Atleast we will not elect hafiz Saeed to become a chief minister of Punjab like you guys did with Modi, who is current ruling gujrat.
I am against LET and their murderous ideology but I can't stand when people from across the border start acting as if they cant do no wrong . Modi will be the next prime minister of india , a guy who murdered 2000 innocent souls will be elected by you guys to rule India . So who is the most blood thirsty ?
@Khaled: Each country has its geopolitical and regional intersts. In current scenario no one likes to stand besides Pakistan including Jordan and Turkey. Pakistani decision makers should ponder on this point lest the country gets completely isolated.
@academic:
even after the accused himself confessed to crimes!!
@Sky:"Violence breeds violence. Mumbai attacks were unfortunate and so were Gujarats riots." So was the reason behind the Gujrat riots, Burning 60 travellers alive because they were....
@Sky: I wonder how come you put them in same basket ? While riots are unfortunate, all sides involved are equally to blame. In terrorism there is only one side to blame..... the terrorists and people who support them.
@Sky,
Justice is already served in Godra case and Insha allah all those muslims responsible for riots will also be punished soon. One day justice will served in Mumbai case also, Wait and watch.
@Sky:
Can you please explain how do you connect Gujrat and 26/11 Mumbai carnage?
Your statement is illogical and intended to attract comments.
Each and everyone in India condemned Godra and post Godra incidents. Name the one who justified either of these incidents. Justice is already done in Godra case and justice will be done to all those responsible for post Godra incidents.
"Mumbai Attacks" A hoax..... an inside job, thats it !!
I thought the mastermind was Hadley...
what is up with news reporters these days? have you forgotten journalism 101? he is the 'alleged' mastermind!! why can you not report facts and not put your emotional spin on things? words by newspapers should be used VERY CAREFULLY and you guys do a poor job on maintaining any journalistic standards!
It has been clear from day one that this is all the handiwork of RAW in desparate bid to implicate Pakistan - but ultimately truth has come out - look at the intricacy of the nefarious design - it proves hindus are more duplicitous than jews - but finally truth comes out...
very different news if we read first hand reports in indian media, where headlines are that this guy has confessed and taken direct names... This was also published in bbc and nyt. Given the way how media works in Pak as proved by recent incidents, I rather believe third party international news than many reports in local media.
How are we going to catch terrorists when everything that he says becomes international news the next day? I don't understand the point of sharing all of this with the media.
Violence breeds violence. Mumbai attacks were unfortunate and so were Gujarats riots.
Why Saudi Arabia is stabbing Pakistan in the back is beyond understanding.
Nice that Indian intelligence is giving out the details of the investigations in a very prompt way.
We have keep things simple and clear. Lying only backfires as we have seen in the case of Pakistan, which is a pathological liar (Richard Clarke said that. Not me).
At the end of the day, all these investigations may lead to nothing. I mean if a forigner like Dawood Ibrahim is protected and the world's most wanted man Osama was sheltered in their living room, you can't expect much to be done on Hafis Saeed. However, diplomatically, India has the opportunity to take the world into confidence and isolate Pakistan further (the other day we all saw how isolated Zaka Ashraf felt) into doom.