This happened in October 2001 after the 9/11 attacks in the US, and the writer got this gem at a dinner flanked by two Pakistani generals who harangued him on the atrocities unleashed by India in Kashmir, “killing their own people and trying to blame freedom fighters”. The book notes that “they were pretty convinced that one day there would be a nuclear war because India, despite its vast population and despite being seven times bigger, was unstable and determined to take them (nukes) out”.
Thinking that the British politicians would be meeting the Indians too, the talkative Pakistani general asked Campbell to tell the Indians that “it takes us eight seconds to get the missiles over”. This kind of bravado can only be understood as a psychological episode assaulting the Pakistani military-mind after the Kargil operation in which General (retd) Pervez Musharraf and his cohorts had been trounced by India, throwing Pakistan into an isolationist trough in the world, which Mushrarraf could climb out only by assenting to be a partner in the UN-mandated invasion of Afghanistan.
This was October 2001. In December, an attack was staged on the Indian parliament, killing seven people. India put the blame — and the world nodded in agreement — on the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Jaish-e-Mohammad groups for the assault. Pakistan cannot forget those days and PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif continues to keep the memory alive by telling the nation how he as prime minister was close to reaching a peace deal with his Indian counterpart Atal Behari Vajpayee when then army chief scuttled it by misbehaving with Mr Vajpayee.
There was a time when Indian and Pakistani generals thought it was good for the health of the two nations to be hurling threats at each other. There are still ‘security first’ analysts who think that the Pakistan military should, as a routine, threaten India with destruction. But the environment in south Asia has changed — and it includes India — for the consideration of those who think that the latter has not reconciled to the existence of Pakistan. The change has come, not only in the Indo-Pak equation, but also with New Delhi’s relations with Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. The threat now is from Afghanistan and it is not India that will threaten Pakistan from Kabul.
Pakistan is threatened from within and it is not Israel, India and the US who are working in tandem to undo it. If that were the case, we would be much worse off than we are. The state in Pakistan is receding from the people it is supposed to serve. The people are suffering, not because of any Indian threat, but because of an energy crisis that afflicts India equally but not to the same extent. Institutional decay and dangerously diminishing service delivery is pushing the common man to suicide; and it is not because of what India is doing to people in Kashmir but what we are doing to the people of Pakistan.
Despite possessing the nuclear bomb, we are hardly better off than the non-nuclear neighbours of India. In fact, we are worse off because of the obligation of preventing the nukes from falling into the wrong hands and — and if our spooks are to be believed — from being “taken out” by the Americans. There is a real threat, despite our denials, that the terrorists led by al Qaeda and the Taliban might get to them in their pursuit of world domination. Whoever it was in 2001 who delivered the threat of nuclear strike in India in “eight seconds” must now be realising that nuclear weapons are finally of no use.
Published In The Express Tribune, June 17th, 2012.
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@stevenson: Have u forgotten that it was the British who forced for a ceasefire or else Indian forces would have pushed out all the invading tribals and pakistani troops. Also UN resolution calls for Pakistan to completely vacate the region first will they do so? they gifted away a large chunk of land to Chinese. Do u have guts to tell Beijing that they r illegally occupying a large area of J&K? then give sermons of kashmir issue
Why we Pakistanis & Indians are fighting here because of this unauthentic quote from Alastair Campbell Diary? Are you not aware of western tactics of Divide & Rule. I am Pakistani & if we want to go to war with any country because of any reason or because of any circumstances we will not send message through these people. We will send this message directly to that country....so please grow up, understand these tactics of western powers. I want to ask one question from India & Indian people that will you give these types of threat through 3rd channel? No.....We are both Nuclear Power with strong army, Accept this fact, don't compare yourself with each other. We share border with each other so we damage each other with just 5 nuclear warhead, we don't need missiles to deliver nuclear to each other, Air force is enough for both of us to nuke each other. So please don't abuse or think bad for each other, You know that these media also earn too much money because of these War & War Environment.....don't believe them....We are educated people if we behave like this then what we expect from the uneducated people.
Pakistan will not use a nuclear weapon against India no matter what. Its just a bluff which India has decided to accept even though it knows it. Only a country that knows it will not exist in future for sure will throw nuclear missiles at a powerful country like India. Pakistan is not that country. It knows it will exist and hence does not want to risk blowing itself to oblivion just because of some jingoism.
@indian: "The editor has correctly included india also. Because indian generals have also time and again given threatening to destroy pakistan".
If you are truly Indian as you claim, you have clearly not been reading Indian newspapers or listened to Indian politicians. India has a well known policy of ' No first Use' of nuclear arms. SO comparing both countries on this subject is certainly not factual. India HAS and will continue to have a defensive nuclear posture - never an aggressive one like Pakistan.
@indian nope,that isn't true,indian army do not give independant statements as if there is no civilian govt.i wud be happy to know about any such incident,though.
@Arijit Sharma: The editor has correctly included india also. Because indian generals have also time and again given threatening to destroy pakistan. Dont get hurt if someone shows mirror to us. lets accept the truth.
There is no five star general in Pak army. Only Ayub Khan appointed himself to this rank.
Alastair Campbell is a mentally unstable person and his diaries are not believable.
However, the threat of nuclear strike is part and parcel of nuclear deterrence. The same way India feels about its outdated cold start doctrine.
There is report in Daily Times that the nuclear threat was conveyed by the general on behalf of Mr Musharraf. I have been on records many time in my comments that nuclear war can not be ruled out between India and Pakistan. It won't be first time that the atomic weapons will be used in this area. There is very strong belief among scientists and historians that these weapons were used around Mohan Jo daro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3TnWLJ_aLo). Indians definitely are prepared to take the shock of such war if its thrust upon them. Size of India is large enough to survive out of such a war. However, as said many times, Pakistan as a nation will be gone for ever. Hope the fistful general knows this simple truth.
I think that the author has forgotten that Pakistan develops nukes only after India took Canadian donated Candu nuclear reactor and diverted its intended peaceful use and instead made weapons. The only sticking issue in Pakistan / India relations is the status of Kashmir which was gifted to the Indians by the occupying British who didn't want to give Pakistan her freedom. Until United Nations resolutions on Kashmir which call for a free referendum so people can choose their destiny take place, peace will be elusive.
India/Pakistan really need to get their relationship working with some urgency, but we have been waiting for over 60 years now so I do not suppose we should hold our breath waiting. Mr. W. Churchill once said that "America and Britain were divided by a common language". Similarly Pakistan/India are divided by so many things they have in common, but then why should they be different from the rest of the world. For example Americans are, in many respects, still divided between North and South although they do not threaten war with each other. This editorial is on the right track although one or two items could be questioned. However, on a lighter note I wish I was young enough to lift my legs to shoulder height the way those two young men in the picture were. I am afraid that India/Pakistan chances of reconciliation are better than mine in regard to emulating the soldiers marching prowess..
A nuclear strike within just eight seconds? Can only be on one of those ultra short range Pakistani missiles. Range fifty feet.
" .... Indian and Pakistani generals thought it was good for the health of the two nations to be hurling threats at each other. .... "
@Editor, why do you club the Indian General with the Pakistani General ? Nazaria-e-Hindustan does not need the protection of a military, ergo, the pattern of behaviour of the Indian and Pakistani Generals can not be the same. Of course, the occasional sabre-rattling is best ignored.
I've never understood the basis of these threats. So Pakistani missiles reach India within 8 seconds. And then what? So they kill thousands of Indians and destroy, say major urban centers like Delhi and Bombay. And then what? What happens after that? To India? To Pakistan? What does the world look like to the five star general issuing these threats in the eight seconds after that? Do they congratulate themselves over killing the Indians? Are they around long enough to? Which part of their country do they prepare to sacrifice...telling its inhabitants that they are expendable because they needed someone to take the brunt of India's second strike? Do these people think before speaking?? Don't they know their first strike is useless because of the boomerang of consequences? Why keep hissing?
Worth repeating - something you don't see printed in Pakistani newspapers.
A five-star Pakistani General...!?