Kohistan video: Local claims five women killed, officials deny

Published: June 3, 2012
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Brother of one of those accused of making video claims women were tortured before they were killed on May 30.

Brother of one of those accused of making video claims women were tortured before they were killed on May 30.

KOHISTAN: Five women in Kohistan, four of whom were filmed ‘singing and dancing’ with men at a wedding party, were killed on May 30 after a tribal jirga ordered their execution, claimed Muhammad Afzal – brother of the two accused of filming the video and uploading it on the internet. Officials have however denied this claim.

Commissioner Hazara Khalid Umarzai and Provincial Minister for Social Welfare Sitara Ayaz denied that the women were killed and said they were alive and safe at their homes. Police officials in the area also denied the incident.

The fifth girl, sister of one of the women filmed, was also killed on suspicion, claimed Afzal.

Police had filed an FIR against the two brothers, Bin Yasir and Gul Nazar, for filming these four women and putting the video online.

According to Afzal, the women were kept in captivity for a month and were tortured by pouring boiling water on their bodies before they were killed.

The jirga had also ordered the execution of the two brothers along with the four women. However, the men had fled the area.

It was earlier reported that the accused, in connivance with four other people including their elder brother and a cousin uploaded the video on the internet and also released it to some media outlets. This caused uproar in the community, which felt the video had stained the honour of the tribe’s women.

 

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  • Sonia Wahab
    Jun 3, 2012 - 7:11PM

    There is just digust in honour killing.

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  • Mohammad Ali Siddiqui
    Jun 3, 2012 - 7:21PM

    I am sick and tired of the Jirga system in the country.

    When we have courts then why the Jirgas takes place in Pakistan?

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  • Roflcopter
    Jun 3, 2012 - 7:21PM

    Wasn’t this proven to be a hoax?

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  • Babloo
    Jun 3, 2012 - 7:30PM

    inhuman, brazen brutality.

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  • Jameel ur Rasheed
    Jun 3, 2012 - 7:58PM

    Rest in peace!

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  • Malik Hamza
    Jun 3, 2012 - 8:05PM

    diisgusting and insane radical people making our religion a shame

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  • zeeshan sheikh
    Jun 3, 2012 - 8:22PM

    Sharia law should be implemented on the state level in order to stop such barbaric unislamic rituals.

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  • Asif
    Jun 3, 2012 - 8:35PM

    This video is similar to that of Swat women being flogged in public, that turned out to be a fake video.

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  • Dr Khan
    Jun 3, 2012 - 8:51PM

    malik jirga customs have nothing to do with religion theyre tribal customs. At least get ur facts right before u bring religion into it.

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  • ashar
    Jun 3, 2012 - 9:06PM

    Siince the root of the matter can be tied with Islamic laws, ET would be after it no matter how fake it is going to come out in the end of day. At least the pleasure of maligning mullahs and Islam will remain there and who is interested in truth.

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  • Anon
    Jun 3, 2012 - 9:15PM

    This is just another hoax. The reality is two tribes fighting amongst each other. They are just settling petty scores through spreading such rumors!

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  • Ahmed HM
    Jun 3, 2012 - 9:36PM

    It has proven to be a hoax. But as this headline gives a band name to Pakistan and in other way results in people relating Islam to Pakistan, this will definitely not be taken off. It will stay there so a lot of filthy propaganda appears in the comments, readers from other countries read it and the story gets moving forward.

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  • Faheem Khan
    Jun 3, 2012 - 9:41PM

    I would wait before making any comment since in past also stories had entirely changed their shape at the end. Propaganda!!
    However this is not islamic up to my knowledge neither according to state law. People at jirga should be brought to court for justice.

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  • S
    Jun 3, 2012 - 9:59PM

    so far it sounds like its fake

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  • Rehan
    Jun 3, 2012 - 11:13PM

    This is just insane. People of Pakistan deserves leaders like Zardari. Im so happy to see him in commond because ALLAH SWT said jesi qoam hogi main wese he hukamran doon ga. So pakistan leadership is exactly how crule and retarted pak nation is. I would like to quote Hasan Nisar, “ye qoam nahi, aik hajoom hai” and that is 100% correct. Unhuman jirga systems, how is this considered to be an “Islamic” punashiment.

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  • yusuf
    Jun 3, 2012 - 11:17PM

    Here come indian trolls to comment……..

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  • Butt
    Jun 3, 2012 - 11:17PM

    Even if I have to wait or call it false, its in the making.

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  • Ash
    Jun 3, 2012 - 11:28PM

    @zeeshan sheikh:
    This is Sharia law!

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  • Ahmed HM
    Jun 3, 2012 - 11:29PM

    Why do people relate Jirga issues to Islam? How come these honor killings or such are related to Islam?

    The latest is that the news is a hoax.Recommend

  • Max
    Jun 3, 2012 - 11:31PM

    Political entities with the name “state” came into existence to protect life, liberty, and property (John Locke). Regrettably, the Pakistani state has failed to perform its primary function.

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  • Farhan
    Jun 3, 2012 - 11:47PM

    Fanatic Mullah’s version of religion of peace in action.
    Very very sad indeed…

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  • roohullahanwari
    Jun 4, 2012 - 12:10AM

    @S:
    it is not islamic action and iam very unhappy on jarga work
    and i hope to finish these non isla
    mic and non human activities in our socity

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  • Mj
    Jun 4, 2012 - 12:22AM

    @zeeshan sheikh:
    You want the situation to go from bad to worse?

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  • abs
    Jun 4, 2012 - 12:48AM

    Jaali Mullahas have proved again they are nothing but butchers hiding behind the name of Islam. They deserve nothing but drones killin them day in day out.

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  • Ahmed HM
    Jun 4, 2012 - 1:11AM

    @Asif:
    It did turn out to be a fake video, but the people in media played it like a 100 times and there was no shame later in accepting their mistake.

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  • Arsalan Ahmad
    Jun 4, 2012 - 1:56AM

    so many days have passed and still no confirmed, completely authentic information is being released on this matter by the authorities

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  • LB Johnson.
    Jun 4, 2012 - 1:58AM

    @yusuf:
    LOL but hardly. In India they have honor killings in thousands as well.
    Even otherwise, it is no different there. Last year the family paraded their girl naked in the street while the cops looked on for marrying someone who was lower cast.
    Just to put trolls to ease considering their very high lever of ego, I am just pointing out that the 2 countries are hardly any different!

    Here is Illinois I believe, a black woman was killed by a paid assassin because her upper caste hindu inland did not approve of their son marrying a black person!.

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  • Mirza
    Jun 4, 2012 - 2:29AM

    Why does it only happen in Pakistan? Why is our tribal culture this barbaric? Other countries have more tribes but none of them has such brutal practices or rituals. Why is it specific to Pakistan? Whether it happened or not there is no doubt if the women were not taken out of that area to a safe house in far away large city they are already dead. These tyrants and cowards do not know the word fairness and mercy.

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  • kasim
    Jun 4, 2012 - 2:48AM

    Drones should attach these tribal jirgas.

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  • jibran
    Jun 4, 2012 - 3:11AM

    Uploading the pictures and videos of unrelated women and children should be made punishable under cyber crimes act.

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  • Anonymous
    Jun 4, 2012 - 3:21AM

    @Roflcopter:
    Please add links about story being hoax.

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  • OG
    Jun 4, 2012 - 3:43AM

    Jahiliyyah!!

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  • Hasan
    Jun 4, 2012 - 4:23AM

    @yusuf:

    I wouldn’t worry about them bro, even if this despicable story does turn out to be true, it cannot compare to the inhuman levels of female infanticide and backwards tribal customs that exist unchecked across the border.

    Hasan

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  • Aftab
    Jun 4, 2012 - 4:45AM

    Disgusting practice if it proves to be true. This is the only policy of Imran Khan I am not so keen on. These “Jirgas” should never have the power to order executions etc. This is inhuman and backward thinking.

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  • T Khan
    Jun 4, 2012 - 5:25AM

    @Mohammad Ali Siddiqui:
    and what better verdicts do the courts come up with???
    jirga kills women for singing, courts are ready to kill Asia for having a fight
    We have lost way unfortunately…jirga or court doesn’t matter at this point in time.

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  • gp65
    Jun 4, 2012 - 7:19AM

    @LB Johnson.:
    It is true that many unacceptable tribal practices exist in India also. The difference is that politicians including the Home Minister can and do speak up against such practices. Also the issue that results in falling foul of the jirga/panchayat’s rules are different magnitude. People of different castes or religions getting married may get such reaction i India – but not women singing/dancing in a marriage.

    Tribal law overriding constitution is wrong – whether it happens in India or Pakistan. But your attitude to justify it in Pakistan because it happens in India seems strange. When these things happen in India, it is criticized by urban, educated people. No-one justifies it by saying it is Okay because it happens in Pakistan. Pakistan too should think of it as a national disgrace regardless of what happens next door.

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  • dv sikka
    Jun 4, 2012 - 8:14AM

    Will the truth ever come out. What has Zardari government done about it so far.

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  • Atown
    Jun 4, 2012 - 8:42AM

    @kasim:
    You give the Taliban extremists sanctuary, you allow them to launch attacks. They have a history of injustice and oppression and inflicting a brutal attack on knowledge and literacy. And you wonder why they feel welcome in Pakistan and impose their backwards tribal law on unsuspecting patrons? I always wished Pakistan would undergo a deep and thought based self analysis. I’m starting to wonder if that’s even a possibility. You must control your ISI and accept the dangers of harboring and supporting militant extremists. Or you can pretend your shocked when things like this continue to intensify and eventually overcome your nation.

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  • Jun 4, 2012 - 9:08AM

    Great job Jirga. We want jirgas to take action against Diamond Market in Lahore too.

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  • Faraz
    Jun 4, 2012 - 4:33PM

    @ashar:
    My friend, jirga issues are not linked with Islam at all, these are man-made laws and have nothing to do with Islam. Please don’t quote Islam when you don’t really anything about the matter, these brutal laws are not Islamic. It is in fact, traditions like this that give Islam a bad name and you people are quick to defend it when these have nothing to do with Islam.

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  • Faraz
    Jun 4, 2012 - 4:40PM

    @gp65:
    this is the rational thinking that we (Pakistanis) lack, comparing with India (I have no idea who is better and I don’t wish to compare, I am only concerned with what happens in Pakistan and I strongly condemn this brutal jirga act) relieves us of all our wrongdoings, matter dismissed. Most unfortunate.

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  • Muhammad
    Jun 8, 2012 - 12:33AM

    Arab and Pashtoon culture and Mentality towards the women is 99.99% similar ! This is their culture and mentality, and its unfortunate these ethnic groups happen to be Muslims ! The non Muslims look at their actions ISLAMIC as if these people represent Islam in every act of violence they commit ! I think they should have punished the culprits who shoot the video and post it on the internet, if it true !

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