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Some “major surprises” are expected in Islamabad’s peace talks with the Taliban, the agency said during the briefing at the ISI headquarters in Islamabad on Thursday, according to sources.
Around five members of the Senate’s standing committee on defence, headed by former ISI chief Lt General (Retd) Javed Ashraf Qazi, were briefed on the ISI’s role, particularly in terms of the war against terrorism.
Declining from attending the briefing, Senator Raza Rabbani of the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and Professor Khurshid Ahmed of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) were of the view that the agency should have come to the parliament for this meeting.
Senate Deputy Chairman Jan Jamali and Senator Tariq Azim were out of the country, whereas Maulana Muhammad Khan Sherani was unable to turn up due to his health condition, a participant of the briefing said.
Members who did attend the meeting shared very little information of the in-camera session that went on from 10 am to 1 pm.
“After the ISI officials briefed the participants about the functions of their agency, members posed various questions before the agency officials to clarify the myths and reality associated with the ISI,” a participant said.
Some of the participants were curious about the agency’s modus operandi in terms of the country’s political affairs; however, sources said, the spy chief opted to skip such questions.
The ISI official denied that the agency plays any role in the country’s political affairs, a participant said, while another claimed that Pasha admitted to the agency’s involvement but said that the ISI simply does what is asked of it by the government, be it civilian or military.
“They [ISI officials] said ‘we have been doing what the government of the time asks us to do … these days there are no such directions from this civilian government’,” a senator said.
During the briefing the ISI chief and his deputies confirmed that talks with the Taliban, mainly homegrown militants, were at an advanced stage and some major breakthrough was expected over the next few months.
The ISI officials were confident that there would be some “big surprises” on this front, the senator said, adding that according to the ISI officials, the overall dimension of the Afghan situation is rapidly changing. “We continue to review our policy with a holistic approach to correspond with changes in the policy of the major players,” another senator quoted the spy agency’s officials as saying.
To a question regarding the Osama bin Laden debacle, the senator said the ISI feels the episode was not solely the agency’s failure but was also a failure on the CIA’s part and that of top spy agencies of other allied countries.
There was no discussion, however, on the Memogate affair, the participants claimed.
One participant from a military background said he was not only satisfied with the briefing, but also paid accolades to the ISI. “The ISI is the best spy agency in the world. It has been succeeding in its mission. Bashing of the ISI and the army by the people of Pakistan is unfortunate … they do not know the real functions of this agency,” he said.
Professor Khurshid Ahmed who boycotted the briefing said he and a few other colleagues of his believed that every institution, including the armed forces, should come before the parliament to give such briefings – unless there is something that they cannot divulge before the house.
(Read: Talking to the Taliban)
Published in The Express Tribune, December 30th, 2011.
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Blaming CIA for the establishment providing guest accomodation to Osama at Abottabad says volumes about the IQ level of those that make such comments.
@forgive and forget: Lets see, you say that Osama bin Laden is alive and driving a cab in NYC!
@Sher Khan: So you say that "Pakistanis are quick to point fingers at ISI. OBL in abotttabad was both ISI/CIA failure. you gotta remember CIA has many times more sophisticated tools to track human beings globally and yet they failed to find him out initially, took them 8 years to track him."
WOW, CIA spent nearly a decade looking for OBL all across the region, finally locating him (and killing him) in Abbottabad, Pakistan, living in biggest house in area (ISI safe house?) . ISI spent nearly a decade not tripping over OBL in Abbottabad, living in biggest house in area!
How can you expect a surprise? Just wondering.
@JSM:
Well PAK has not been attacked by Sweden.........how's that/
@Cautious: India and America tryin best toy wake over Pakistan thanks to Isi they fail The only reason obl was not caught is Pakistan was sharing intel with America but USA was purposely feeding false information to Pakistan , so that it could get obl
America also had intel failure on 9/11 and 20 Russian spies living in USA for 10 years
India has failures every second of the day
@hamza khan: Bloody civilians.... right?
@Javed Basit Hassan:
too bad..tell your stupid civilian leaders to get their act together first.
@Sher Khan
Fourthly, there is more to OBL operation. There is a notion that it might be a false operation to put pressure on Pakistan. Why? did the world ever see any proof of OBL? was any single picture ever released ? Did interior ministry ever praded OBL wives on TV? were they ever interviewed by any independent sources. Why isnt media demanding interview with OBL women or any family member. Pakistanis and the world should take OBL matter as grain of salt without any proofs.
OK, if there are no wives of OBL and no 'any proofs' too.
Then the ISPR statement that Pasha traveled to Arab countries to discuss their repatriation is also false.
Wives or no wives, decide for yourself.
The CIA was in charge of the operation that killed UBL. How was it a failure for the CIA?
God bless the ISI.
The shortcomings of the CIA are shoved under the carpet. The shortcomings of the ISI are highlighted and gossiped............................whilst Mossad remians discreet...........
Be fair give credit where its due. Even the most ardent enemies of Pakistan admit ISI if not the best is second only to Mossad................This was a warning sent to his government by an Indian foreign minister now retired but writes for an online magazine.
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE. DON'T KNOCK IT.
Sept 11 was the biggest debacle of CIA and US State Department, we never heard such a hue and cry from American people.
If a comparison is done on the creditably of the Armed forces and the Present Govt. Zardaris people don't stand a chance . In this case the ISI is more believale, These are the people who would stand up and fight and sacrifice their people for the defence of whatever is left of Pakistan. Except few good politician, most the countrys poltical leaders have run the country as an amusement park for the West. The history of Pakistan's political circle has shown that these people run out of Pakistan when things get bad for them but you don't see an active General taking shelter in some foreign Land.
@antanu g: to Imran "It (US) has removed MLLA OMAR FRIM MOST WANTED LIST." Get your facts straight before you go bashing on the basis of lies and hearsay. FBI declared that he was never on their Most Wanted List. Get some control on your anti-US obsession!
".... Osama bin Laden debacle.... was also a failure on the CIA’s part .."
How was it a CIA failure. .Tthey were the ones who found him- in Pakistan.
“The ISI is the best spy agency in the world. It has been succeeding in its mission. ...."
Can we see a list of these missions.
@Shyam
proof that obl was hiding in that mansion ? u cant
To all those support politicians rather than their own best agency in the world, wake up, as these politicians are committing high levels of treasons against Pak and its only because this agency Pak is alive after Allah's support. Good job ISI we support you.
People, do you want ISI headed by REHMAN MALIK?? This is the level of caliber of our "civilians". Thank God that the Army is NOT under Zardari-Gilani;
Sorry but can't trust this civilian govt that came into power with 44% bogus votes and it is willing to sell Pakistan interests. It's not the Army but this govt policies why Pakistanis are suffering.
This all seems to be a new game to persuade the poor and inexperienced politicians of Pakistan. ISI and our armed forces think ten steps ahead as compared to our politicians. O God it may be true that Intelligence Agency has confessed it's duty to be responsible before an elected government.
"Major surprises"?? Please stop surprising us! We are fed up. Cant take it anymore. And why the hell was this briefing held in ISI HQ and not in Parliament? Kudos to Mr. Rabbani and Prof. Khursheed for the boycott.
See, Waziristan was signed off in peace deal and so was swat. Now comes the 'big surprise' which may involve signing off the whole of Pakistan in a peace deal.
2012, anyone?
Kill 1 person and they will hunt you down. Kill a 1000 and they will negotiate with you ! Height of cowardice, if you ask me.
“They [ISI officials] said ‘we have been doing what the government of the time asks us to do …" - seriously !!! what a load of BS .
Did I not read here that the PM made the comment in reply to the memogate that there was a government within a government in PAK.
Don't know what else he knows but on this he seems to have been correct.
Dear all bloggers and comment givers.... atleast its a new start ..never in 60 years of our history ISI gave briefing to any reps of the govt.. please try to step gradually..oce cannot jump to the last step in a ladder... read between the lines not just the surface story..
If US/ Afg can negotiate with Taliban, why not Pakistan. Good work ISI, we need to end this game in our way.
@Imran: if it is joke then the practical joke of the century has come from US. It has removed MLLA OMAR FRIM MOST WANTED LIST. Why you people ridicule any peace prospect in Pakistan?
@Cautious:
A bit difficult to find someone you are hiding
"The Senate’s standing committee on defence, headed by former ISI chief Lt General (Retd) Javed Ashraf Qazi" Wait a mintue, and we are being told that ISI is reporting / debriefing to civilians. what is this, a joke?
The best spy agency list thing has always been funny. How exactly do you find relevant things to rate when their job description involves secrecy? Logic and reason would say that the more you know about their activities, the worse they are. What is basically being rated during that is not the quality of their success, but the quality of their failures.
@ The skunk: we have seen economic boom under military dictators after selling pakistani soil,bases and blood and getting lots of aid. No true economic development took place during dictatorship,only american aid. So thanks but no thanks. Parliment Zinadabad( however corrupt it maybe,if it continues its bound to improve) and democracy zindabad. That's the way of the world. If lovers of dictators and army want to rip pakistan and take it to some other planet where dictatorship is acceptable then they can make an argument.
@Cautious:
If i knew where he is, why would I have to find to him?
ISI beyond civilian control is not acceptable to me.
How was it CIA's fault that ISI could not find Osama living comfortably in Pakistan? But then you dont need logic or rationale to accuse CIA/America/NATO of something in Pakistan these days
"Some “major surprises” are expected", Oh good Lord ! here we go again !!!!
Supreme Court must be responsible for all intelligence agencies in the country. ISI should be replaced with civilian at the top to decide on important national issues. Media be given appropriate access to what goes on behind the closed doors.
The 'surprises' that the people of FATA and Khyber-Pakhtunkwa saw will now come every Pakistan's way, if this briefing is to be believed.
Hail gen Pasha, Hail ISI and all hai Pakistan Army..... it is the only institution which has kept the integrity of this nation intact.... Pakistan Army Zindabad
If this works out for the better, INSHALLAH, then we can see some peace in this country. We can concentrate on the economy rather than politics because there are too many 'bed bugs' and 'mosquitos' in the Parliaments of Pakistan.
Salams to Pak Armed Forces and Pakistan
It is sheer beghayrati that militants who have butchered thousands of Pakistanis are being negotiated with. If these Faujis were professionals they would have eliminated the TTP instead of negotiating and seeking deals with it.
I also have a bridge to sell.
Professor Khurshid Ahmed who boycotted the briefing said he and a few other colleagues of his believed that every institution, including the armed forces, should come before the parliament to give such briefings
is ISI & other spy agencies are under the control of Govt. . . .???
Lets see how ISI is going to handle the murderers of scores of common Pakistanis, and the messengers of hate.
Again feeding lies and deceit to the people of Pakistan. Pakistan's military should now understand it is not 1960s or 1980s, and the old tricks won't work anymore.
JOKES of the day for the Pakistani People. April 1st came too early!