Pakistan will suffer dire consequences if it fails to contain terrorists: Clinton

Published: October 24, 2011
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Clinton says US wants Pakistan to carry out actions against terrorists in a covert manner. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

Clinton says US wants Pakistan to carry out actions against terrorists in a covert manner. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that Pakistan will face “dire consequences” if it fails to  contain terrorists operating from its soil.

(Read more: Work harder to ‘squeeze Haqqanis, Clinton tells Pakistan)

Clinton made this statement in an interview with Bloomberg News two days after she visited Islamabad, adding that Pakistan requires help from the US and Afghanistan to battle militancy.

She added that the US administration does not want Pakistan to overtly launch an military offensive against the banned outfits and forces that attack US and Afghan forces, but carry out clandestine actions.

There are “different ways of fighting besides overt military action,” she said.

Clinton said that she urged Pakistan to share intelligence with the US forces station in Afghanistan to foil attacks and block supply routes.

She also said that better synchronization might curtail incidents like the attack on the American Embassy in Kabul for which the US blamed the Haqqani network.

Clinton commended Pakistan’s recent cooperation and said:

Because of intelligence sharing and mutual cooperation, we have targeted three of the top al Qaeda operatives since bin Laden’s death. That could not have happened without Pakistani cooperation.

Clinton said that the assailants that are targeting US and Afghan might break violence in Pakistan as well.

She also said that Pakistan could also benefit from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces based in neighbouring Afghanistan while the 130,000 troop is there before 2014, when US would have pulled out troops and the security control will be handed over to Afghan government.

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  • Mohammd Ali Siddiqui
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:19PM

    Hillary has not said any thing new.

    We the Pakistanis knew very well that Hillary will come out with her actual statement once she will go back to US. The press conference she held in Pakistan was just a courtesy visit and nothing else.

    Now she is acting in real sense of mother-in-law of Pakistan.

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  • vasan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:21PM

    True indeed. Hope friends across our border realise that

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  • Khurram Mansoor
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:21PM

    So she is back on her threatening tone. And Pakistani analysts were happy they have tammed her when she came to Pakistan.

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  • geeko
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:24PM

    Did you saw how she reacted recently about Khadafi’s disgusting death, asked about the inhumane torture ? ‘We came, we saw, he died’ with a bigh devilish laugh – that sums up her position about Pakistan, and, must I say, any country apart from the Western sphere.

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  • abbas
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:27PM

    We have been facing dire consequences because of our inability to contain terrorism for the past five years or so. She is right, but I think everybody already knew what she was saying before she said it. Good to know they are on the same page as us, I guess.

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  • beware
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:28PM

    america whole indian muslims whole bollywood is with pakistan. all muslims countries with china and russia will attack you.even sikhs with pakistan

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  • breitzer
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:33PM

    Aweseme…As expected..You changed your tone after going back…Is that for Obama election comparign or seriously…because now you know you cannot breath without Pakistan.

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  • Aamer
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:51PM

    Miss Mother-In-Law, we expected nothing better from you and your relatives. But understanding the consquences we have decided not take part in your effort for “Demo-cracy”, “War on Terror”, “Reconstruction”. We’re sorry but we cant play out part for such “human” acts no more.

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  • Malik Mazhar Javed
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:52PM

    These remarks are contrary to what Hallary says, will Uncle Sam stop policing the world around,
    friend once quoted “take the dollar out of the good old US of A and you are left with GARBAGE”, better if they concentrate on their dollar.

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  • Muhammad
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:55PM

    @vasan: yes we have to realise that our enemy is india not these freedom fighters……

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  • A.Khan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 12:57PM

    I think now she is adapting the same language which Pakistanis have been talking for quite a long. War and keep killing people is never the solution of any problem. Thats what Pakistan realized quite long ago and US has come to realize it now.

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  • ali
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:00PM

    Typical comments from USA…no one is listening. you have been defeated so plz admit it stop using Pakistan as a scapegoat.

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  • dcomp
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:16PM

    @beware: and where did you get that wild imagination from…

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  • Vigilant
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:22PM

    American Policy “Dialogue & Squeeze”…..she was here for Dialogue & now she is squeezing

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  • narayana murthy
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:25PM

    It’s not a THREAT. It’s a WARNING.

    What she’s saying is that if Pakistan does not contain the terrorists, Pakistan faces dire consequences from the terrorists and not from USA.

    For those who say “You changed your tone after going back”…i don’t think so. Within the closed doors, this was exactly the message delivered to Hina Rabbani and Gen. Kiyani.

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  • america help
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:27PM

    sikhs children dont feel safe,even biharis children can play freely in delhi

    when will sikhs get justice

    america help

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  • Oct 24, 2011 - 1:42PM

    Most of the world is going nuts and have failed to make one simple truth sink in the mind of all in Pakistan that
    ” Pakistan will face “dire consequences” if it fails to contain terrorists operating from its soil. Not from any outsider but from it’s selective support to terror. If you have snakes in your backyard you can not expect these snakes will bite only your neighbor.”
    Why these simple words are not being understood and why there is such negative reaction

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  • Parvez
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:42PM

    Look at it another way. She could be giving us sound advice and not threatning us at all.

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  • Common citizen
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:45PM

    Look for us,, this look strange that she looks changed…. But “o” my Dear Brother Allah (S.W.A) has said in the Quran you can’t trust these people. this is nothing new.. we are just deaf and blind.. why don’t we wake up…

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  • launcher
    Oct 24, 2011 - 1:53PM

    they tell us to contain what they themselves have not been able to do in just over ten years now, despite being a super power…….ha ha they make us crack!

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  • zalim singh
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:01PM

    She will despatch Bill Clinton to Pakistan. Then pakistan will be destroyed. Then you might need steel burqas.

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  • Hamid
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:02PM

    The US desperately wants to pull out its troops from Afghanistan so that it can deploy them elsewhere; on the new warfronts that could be Iran and Pakistan. It has already announced full pullout from Iraq, its now preparing for Afghanistan and they will do this by handing the trouble over to Pakistan

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  • anonymous
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:02PM

    Isolate Pakistan in the International Community, Outstretch the Military in it’s own territory, Overburden the Economy, Reduce the population of Pakistan, Cripple Business Activity in Pakistan, Fuel social and ethnic tension, Arm the masses all without a single “boot on the ground”

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  • abbas
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:13PM

    Ya right what ever

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  • goggi
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:13PM

    USA Congress is ruled from AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). Besides hundreds of renowned USA politicians like Bush, H. Clinton is a member of this Jew organisation as well.

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  • Indian Muslim
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:15PM

    @Beware – Who has allowed you to speak on behalf on Indian Muslims? We do not wish to have anything to do with this. We made this clear during partition when we chose to stay back. Hope that’s loud and clear.

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  • Mustafa
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:32PM

    Salamun Alaikum brothers, America will say one thing & do another thing, pretend that you have heard it. The entire world knows us administration are zionist puppets, instead of lecturing my brothers in Pakistan go tame israel and freeze the illegal settlements if you can. Maybe then you will get some and I say some respect for your words.

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  • Sal
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:35PM

    India is supporting these banned terror outfits along with Mossad and USA. Then they claim we are playing double game. Haqqanis should be used against thesebanned terror groups

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  • ajklodhi
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:38PM

    Obama needs a skirmish with Pakistan to get a better rating; Isuppose what we can do is merely to save our skin and nothing else we are merely ranting and ranting about our power to face the US and it is with the US supplied F-16, US trained armed forces and US supplied amunition how naive are we like Qaddafi

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  • Fareedi
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:43PM

    Hilary is Hilarious!!!! The moment she gets back she returns to her own. I wonder if Mr. Karzai was actually inciting America to attack Pakistan when he declared that he shall stand by Pakistan in the event of a War!
    Can you please clear if we are a Friend or enemy… cuz this is really confusing!

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  • Aadersh
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:47PM

    Why r u so coward to say all that infront of us…during your meeting with Pakistani officials…??simply because u know u will get one back on your face…

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  • YeaRight
    Oct 24, 2011 - 2:58PM

    Pakistan will suffer dire consequences if it doesn’t stop behaving like America’s doormat. Take a leaf from the Iraqis who despite being in terrible state told the US to get out and take back every last soldiers. Everyone knows the writing on the wall, that US has being defeated and humiliated in Iraq and will suffer the same in Afghanistan regardless of whether or not Pakistan cooperates any further. Madam secretary should focus on cutting a face-saving deal in Afghanistan and exiting immediately.Recommend

  • sami
    Oct 24, 2011 - 3:03PM

    So what is wrong with her statement? Don’t you think it is best for Pakistan if we actually do something about the terrorists? Who are creating a bad name of Pakistan and Islam? What is wrong in going after them? For once, why can’t we look at ourselves and at our slow paced progress against these sick people? And she is right. We shou;d not use military against these terrorists They are normal people who are fed up of not getting basic needs of food clothing and shelter, who are sick of electricity and water problems, inflation, and so forth. The only solution to counter their attacks is only if this government actually realizes that practicality needs to be shown more than promises. That’s where the government should “DO MORE”. Recommend

  • Arbab M. Waseem
    Oct 24, 2011 - 3:04PM

    Hey guys you are missing something “Clinton said that the assailants that are targeting US and Afghan might break violence in Pakistan as well.
    US is harbouring terorrists inside Afghanistan and waging attacks from Afghan soil. They arre using those terrorists as proxies and now she is warning us of dire consequences.
    Miss clinton think 100000 times before attacking 180 million patriotic PAKISTANIS.Recommend

  • BruteForce
    Oct 24, 2011 - 3:08PM

    Well, to be realistic, I am not expecting Pakistan to give up people they have protected so well for 10 long years. Pakistan will do what it will do. US will get out of Afghanistan, well, most of it will and will blame Pakistan. Dont be surprised if US and NATO will come out to say that Pakistan is the reason they lost the war.

    After 2014, Pakistan will lose all the leverage it has against the sole Super Power in the World. US will impose economic sanctions and will make sure that apart from China no institution or Country will give Pakistan Aid, including Saudi Arabia.

    I haven’t seen anything to suggest this will not happen, as yet.

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  • vasan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 3:12PM

    Muhammed: I pity you because of your shortsightedness, Clinton said Pakistan will pay dearly if it does not contain terrorism. Forget about the root cause, effects, methodology etc. Dont you agree that terrorists, whatever may be the root cause, have extracted a heavy toll on Pakistan. Is it always required to have an enemy for Pakistan, First India then USA and now terrorism. Cant you live without an enemy.
    Try, I am sure you will like to live that way. Judging by the recent news that Pakistan has let the Indian helicopter go back to Kargil, even Pak army is trying not to look at India as enemy, Why dont you also try,.

    america help : Dont u know Delhi is crime capital of India. Take suitable precautions. Help from America is not one of them.Recommend

  • harkol
    Oct 24, 2011 - 3:25PM

    Well what she says is so right. Pakistan is and will continue to suffer severe consequences if it doesn’t fix the problems of Private Militia. No country can afford to have coercive powers away from its govt. and still continue to be a cohesive state. Pakistan govt. needs to assert its control over its army, and ensure that the army has monopoly over arms.

    To do this Pakistan should do 2 things. Eliminate the kingpins of extremism, even by using extra-constitutional means – because constitution isn’t much good when there is a civil war. Secondly, Pakistan govt. should focus on ensuring Army never gains control over civilians.

    Civilians by nature would want the growth agenda. And you can’t have growth agenda by spending energies on fighting proxy wars.Recommend

  • MarkH
    Oct 24, 2011 - 3:58PM

    @Arbab M. Waseem: Yes, you guys are just so important and clean that we’d kill our own soldiers to frame you. Get over yourselves. I’ve never once ever gotten an answer to the question “what could any country possibly want from Pakistan that they don’t already have and of better quality?”

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  • Roflcopter
    Oct 24, 2011 - 3:59PM

    When did Haqqanis become terrorists? It seems now even fighting foreign forces is terrorism

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  • imindian
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:09PM

    @ali:
    You can close your ears but you can not close their mind that they have made it. Seems like they are directly warn you to be clean and close all terrorism camps and stop exporting terrorism.

    It is indeed in the interest of Pakistan people that Pakistan government cut down their endless powers of army and let like all civilized countries, army should be under political power.

    China is just using pakistan again India and USA. Smart people should not be puppet of others. Buring our own home, how can you burn others?

    Pakistan should consider USA’s warning and act as they said. OR they can attack on Pakistan anytime. You are stupid if you think they are gonna ask your permission to attack on terrorists under your territory.

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  • Khan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:10PM

    @geeko:
    And why exactly are you interested in Gaddafi may I ask? Why are some people always interested in figures like Saddam and Gaddafi, both dictators against the will of their people ruled both countries for decades just because they could kill who ever opposed them?
    I agree some of US policies might not be in our interest as they are made for their own country and they have done enormous favors for us or are you guys so ungrateful that you don’t see their help during 2005 earth quake and during floods, they helped more than any other country has ever.
    Let me ask you, If Saddam or Gaddafi were so dear to you how much they helped us during that time or any other time?. Recommend

  • bollywood hates america
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:10PM

    beware is right

    Shahrukh Khan’s dislike of America prompted by American foreign policy and its impact on Muslims?

    But Muslims are treated no better in Shahrukh Khan’s own country India.

    Of the thousand people who lost their lives in the Gujarat riots of 2002, the majority were Muslims. Most of the Muslims were literally butchered to death.

    In its bold expose, Tehelka blamed the Gujarat administration headed by Narendra Modi as well as the state police for the massacre of many Muslims.

    Does Shahrukh Khan have the courage to challenge Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi to a debate on the wholesale massacre of the Muslims? Probably not.

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  • Khan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:11PM

    @beware:
    In your dreams?

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  • bollywood
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:11PM

    Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan does not like America, according to an interview he gave recently to the The Times (of London not the Mumbai rag Times of India).

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  • Khan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:17PM

    @Khurram Mansoor:
    Bro, She isn’t threatening … She doesn’t mean we will suffer because of US but she is predicting If we don’t contain these terrorist they are going to get more stronger and will fight back and attack us in our own cities … Have you guys not read a few days ago what Mullah Fazullah said? Then If we don’t uproot these people from those areas where we don’t have any single police station or government schools etc, are they not going to be safe there and recruit more people against us ?
    Please ask your self a single question Can you travel to Darra Adam Khel which lies just outside Peshawar between Kohat and Peshawar .. Can you travel to all these Tribal areas locally called ilaqa ghair? I am from Peshawar myself and I could never feel safe of going to these areas.
    Please do think before your write as it seems you are commenting without knowing meaning of a sentence.

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  • Larka
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:22PM

    This kind of behavior is typical of hillary in her courtesy visits. As soon as she returns home, she shows her true, cruel saasu maa colours. But jokes and pleasantries aside, we are in this war for the long haul.

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  • buttjee
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:27PM

    Use of threatening language against Pakistan has been a regular feature of US strategy to pressurize Pakistan, particularly during the last 5 years. But the reason due to which the US has not gone beyond hurling threats is that US knows its own limitations. The stark reality which is understood by the policy makers in US is that the execution of threat of dire consequences for Pakistan will ultimately end up in dire consequences for United States.

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  • Roflcopter
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:29PM

    btw she didn’t even say that in the interview, way to go ET

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  • Hasan Mehmood
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:32PM

    @Muhammad:
    Even if these friends have killed 10 times our forces and civilians combined compared to our casualties in all the wars. Even if our sworn enemies have not deliberately targeted civilian population centres and proudly owned those attacks? Even if a war finishes in a few weeks one way or the other but we are made to bleed perpetualy by our internal enemies?

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  • Khan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:36PM

    @YeaRight:
    I would repeat your username here … YEARIGHT, in Iraq they removed Saddam’s govt .. removed all his Baathist’s from every post … dismantled his Army and full government .. and then captured President of Iraq Saddam who ruled it for few decades and then hanged him at will.
    In Afghanistan, they removed those barbarians, who were running without even wearing their shoes to take refuge in our country then, and they got OBL and all of their main targets .. But some people still say they have lost? If they have lost in Iraq then why is Saddam Hussein not the President of Iraq? If they have lost in Afghanistan Who’s government is in Afghanistan at the moment? Is OBL still hiding in Kabul along with Omer & Co or Is it Karzai’s govt.
    Please enlighten me as to what is winning in your mind? capturing another country forever ? No my friend no one has ever that in the history of mankind. Its called objectives achieved.

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:43PM

    @america help:
    You will get justice and respect when you will stop playing “thali ka baigun” role.Is that your bird brain that stretches not more than biharis ,sikhs and hindus. shame on you .living in Mother India ‘s warm lap children like you always want more. beyond your capacity to hold.stop bringing sordid things like you said, again on this table.

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  • Javed
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:43PM

    @beware: “america whole indian muslims whole bollywood is with pakistan. all muslims countries with china and russia will attack you.even sikhs with pakistan”

    Extreme utopia! Do you really believe what you are saying? Russia and China are dependent on USA and Russia has recently given them right of the way to transport their equipment to Uzbekistan on route to Afghanistan. One more thing…. Clinton has not threatened Pakistan this time. She just said what every sane person has been saying that unless we tackle Terrorism in our country we will face dire consequences internally in the long run.

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  • Ikramuddin Akbar
    Oct 24, 2011 - 4:58PM

    That’s the real face after removing the mask. May be she is preparing us for the worst to come not by all of a sudden but gradually. In the mean time that left for us we must get united more than ever we were.We must start trying to live on our own means.Again i will say that there are more Islamic countries in Asia and are living with self respect.We must not forget and shut our eyes on reality that in Americas more than 20 percent industries that only make deadly weapons,one deadly weapon is called “SANCTIONS”.

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  • Gul Bahadur
    Oct 24, 2011 - 5:00PM

    No sane person will argue with an insane person endlessly.

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  • from india
    Oct 24, 2011 - 5:13PM

    somebody said bollywood muslims will be with pakistan ..lol … as if they are policy makers !! and even if they support pakistan, how does that help ?

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  • Subhash, India
    Oct 24, 2011 - 5:25PM

    @Aadersh:
    She was being just courteous to the hosts at least publicly within Pakistan. Rest all this and much more has been conveyed to your dual faced top leadership.Recommend

  • Skin Taj
    Oct 24, 2011 - 5:26PM

    It was SAD and disappointing to see HOW SHE REACTED TO QADDAFI DEATH NEWS on her phone,,as she said wow and screamed in jubilation….
    No matter how big dictator was Qaddafi..
    BUT….This reaction of her showed a little glimpse of how much civilised these people are themselves… The only problem in the world is …THERE IS IN EQUALITY…and DOUBLE STANDARDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!Recommend

  • CommonSense
    Oct 24, 2011 - 5:30PM

    @vasan
    Cant you live one day without coming over to ET and telling us what to do? I guess it just shows who is more obsessed with the animosity. Do you see pak readers flooding TOI with trolling comments. You need to focus on our own internal affairs and the fact that while your mocking us, Kashmir is quietly simmering and near a boiling point. With daily stories of mass graves, rapes by Indian soldiers, and indiscriminate arrests, your government is being forced to reconsider AFSPA if it still wants to hold on to Kashmir. Remember the protests of summer of 2009 – the one which made your government panic? Yea those were carried out by the ordianary Kashmiris and not millitants. So stop behaving like sacred cows and clean your house first. America has threatened both Iran and Pakistan under the same breadth. It is trying to table a monetary bill against China and has no control over Afghanistan. Seriously you guys are naive to align your stars with the Americans when it is clear it has no friends in the region. Get out your fantasyland and preferably troll on your own newspapers.

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  • Kashif
    Oct 24, 2011 - 5:34PM

    USA is very clever, they said to PAK do action against militants we will pay your all army expanses and after some years they stopped giving money to PAK by saying PAK is doing nothing against militants n PAK army made enemy these tribal ppl so USA want internal war between PAK with tribal ppl so PAK Govt. put their knees down infront of USA n then wht ever they want they can get from PAK.
    they have done same thing in lybia give money n weapons to Alqaida(rebels) and use them against gadaffi now they can easily get GOLD n OIL from lybia and use it. in whole world USA is doing wars making hates between countries by making misunderstanding.simply they r destroying other countries economy by war……..we all countries should not accept what USA is saying, make solutions of our problems on our own by talk on table.
    NO ONE CAN MAKE PEACE BY USING GUNS…

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  • YeaRight
    Oct 24, 2011 - 5:45PM

    @Khan
    I guess for your sake I should change my user name from YeaRight to DreamOn so to make thing easier for you to understand.You need to expand your reading of current affairs beyond State Department by reading a REAL newspaper. That would tell you a) Both Iraqi and American newspapers and politicians, claiming that US had no choice but to pullout after Iraq refuwed to grant extension b) maybe if you read Foreign Policy and Foreign Affairs, respected american journals which claim, that the US attack in Iraq strengthened both Sunni and Shia millitants like Moqtada Sadr and former Baathists joined Sunni millitant outfits c)In summary I guess the 110000 dead Iraqi civillians for you are a sign of progress and US victory.
    Also please tell me which barbarians did they remove in Afghanistan? The ones which continue to control 90 percent of Afghanistan, a percentage which btw was not revealed to me in my dreams but published in an AMERICAN newspaper Washington Post : http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/afghanistan-a-nightmare-battlefield/2011/10/06/gIQA7YrlQL_blog.html
    Unless for you 90 percent of Afghanistan controlled by Taliban is definition of victory please go read a real newspaper and come up with proper arguments. OBL maybe dead but Taliban are not.

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  • Zeeshan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 6:04PM

    anonymous
    4 hours ago
    Reply
    Isolate Pakistan in the International Community, Outstretch the Military in it’s own territory, Overburden the Economy, Reduce the population of Pakistan, Cripple Business Activity in Pakistan, Fuel social and ethnic tension, Arm the masses all without a single “boot on the ground”

    Are you talking about America/Europe or Pakistan?Anybody wants to bet this anonymous is an Indian? I will bet on Moody downgrading the rating for America again.

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  • Oct 24, 2011 - 6:09PM

    @Arbab M. Waseem: What is wrong in saying “Pakistan will face “dire consequences” if it fails to contain terrorists operating from its soil. Not from any outsider but from it’s selective support to terror. If you have snakes in your backyard you can not expect these snakes will bite only your neighbor.”
    Why these simple words are not being understood and why there is such negative reaction ???

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  • Rafi Ka Deewana
    Oct 24, 2011 - 6:12PM

    @Indian Muslim: “Who has allowed you to speak on behalf on Indian Muslims? We do not wish to have anything to do with this. We made this clear during partition when we chose to stay back. Hope that’s loud and clear.”

    Perfect reply. I don’t understand why the Pakistanis can’t just get rid of this infatuation with this muslim brotherhood concept. Open your eyes while on ground and see which country is willing to invite (mostly harmless) ordinary Pakistanis on its soil.

    Pakistan has to realize that the terrorists are no good and must get rid of them. If it truly wanted to do so, it could have achieved it easily in the last 10 years when the US and the whole world was willing to support the cause. Now, no one believes in what Pakistan says. The other countries (muslim countries included) are so sick of its attitude and double talk that even humanitarian aid is hard to get.

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  • vasan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 6:15PM

    Commonsense :I was trying to highlight that Pak has lost plenty of men and materials due to terrorism and by taking a stand of an enemy with India. I was trying to make the commentator to see India in a friendly way when he was trying to portray it as enemy without relevance to this article. If that is going to make you rant, scream in the top of your voice about irrelevant subjects like Kashmir, US’s China bill etc, I pity you also. Whether Pak will lose heavily due to attack by US or by Terrorists does not matter. Losing is what matters. We can be friendly with Americans. Bangladeshis, Nepalis etc. That we are and we will continue to be. Thanks for your advise. And pl note that Kashmiri violence, deaths etc are being investigated by our elected govts,.You can live in peace rest assured. Recommend

  • Hammad
    Oct 24, 2011 - 6:28PM

    @VINOD:
    These snakes are been tamed & sent by our enemy (India). It is as simple as that.

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  • Sharjeel Jawaid
    Oct 24, 2011 - 6:28PM

    Is it Henry Kissinger from the seventies talking?

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  • Jadugar
    Oct 24, 2011 - 6:37PM

    I agree, innocent Pakistani has faced and suffered at the hands of Taliban and the terrorist because the Govt and the Army failed to contain these ruthless people. If not contained it wil only become worse. imagine if these people get their hands on the nuclear button. We and our children will never get to see tomorrow.

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  • jmll
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:00PM

    Mother in law trying yo be father now.

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  • Saboor
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:08PM

    yeah right, what are you going to do to Pakistan, China is not lending you any money to attack Pakistan….. US is broke and the empty threats are not working anymore….

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  • No Nonsense
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:09PM

    The harpy. It is always the tigress that kills.

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  • omg!
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:15PM

    Why not US mind her own biz :D

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  • CommonSense
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:19PM

    @vasan
    Let me also try to be more friendly. Its so charitable of you to put aside your problems and come over here to advise us. As per your request let me try to be more relevant, your advice is coming from a country that has lost not one but TWO prime ministers due to TWO different insurgencies. Please don’t tell us what to do, we are doing our job and our military is fighting the militants, but as one can see from the past decade of no progress in Afghanistan military strategy is not the best solution in the long term. If it really was, then why hasn’t your army succeeded in permanently destroying the Naxalites, Assamese and other such insurgencies which have been fighting you for decades and also cost you soldiers and civillian lives. Unless your trying to tell me that your army is fighting and supporting these insurgencies, you will agree with the gist of what I am saying. So for your own sake don’t throw rocks from glasshouses, and save your advice for your own politicians who badly need them.

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  • Saboor
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:33PM

    As Pakistanis, we should stop dreaming and learn from our past. US and West is no one’s friend. look what they did to Pak during 80 when Russians left, look they did to Iraq, Egypt, Libya. They use you for their interest and move forward.
    We should have a sincere dialogue with India, no cheating and proxies. I strongly believe, with all my sincerity, that we are the same people, we look the same, speak the same, eat the same, dress the same way. things have changed in the past 10/15 years, we should follow Indian model and do something for our future.

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  • Observer
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:41PM

    Interesting how folks are calling Clinton/US as mother-in-law!! Makes one wonder who the wife is – Taliban…Al Queda? with whom Pakistan fell in love with and the US facilitated the marriage. Now the question for the two is ‘Who will tame the shrew?’

    Interesting turn of events…

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:43PM

    @M A Sidiqui,
    Mother in Law its a good one man hahahahahahha i laugh and laugh and laughed….

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  • MarkH
    Oct 24, 2011 - 7:46PM

    You guys just don’t know how to listen unless it matches the imaginary image of the world outside your borders. All sides have non-negotiable requirements that conflict. Anyone in reality will tell you that preaching talks and peace is at best a public image change. That alone does not change the reality of the circumstances no matter how much you want to believe otherwise. It’s not about being a warmonger to talk against such things. It’s to say dodging the reality of the situation is just going to get more people killed. Because in a situation with one wanting peace and the other being quite determined to subjugate that person speaking of peace it turns into something like this…
    Peaceful person = victim
    Person with the gun = morale booster with license to brag
    Of course the US still has a firm stance on doing more than leaving it in the hands of talks. That’s because they aren’t fools that have had their head in the sand for 10 years but are still reasonable enough to let themselves be surprised by a change of heart from the other side even if signs point to it being impossible. Even that, in this situation, requires an abstract view of the impossible only being impossible until the first time someone has made it possible. Sorry to say though, Pakistan will not, with their views, ever be that person. The way they deal with situations is never something permanent for the better. It’s just whatever it takes to make them look a little better than horrible for a few weeks.
    There’s just not anything for the US to lose to let Pakistan try. But, there is something to lose by letting Pakistan try and not being ready for it to fail.

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  • tauseef
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:09PM

    I can not agree more with Mr Murthi. It is not a threat but a warning too the Pakistan state and the Pakistani people. It is common sense, we can’t control our FATA and North Waziristan regions. Tomorrow, when we will have more population and maybe more problems to tackle with; we can’t reasonably postpone to deal with these Frankenstein Monsters later. Its time to deal with the Haqqanis and Alqaeda likes.Recommend

  • syed baqar ahsan
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:23PM

    Mother-in-Law is again in the original mode,American leadership have some serious problem.Americans are not the owner of Afghanistan,they occupier so better stop making noise. . Recommend

  • Cautious
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:25PM

    For those who think Clinton is wrong – what word(s) would you use to describe the consequences of your failure to don’t control terrorism? You may not like Clinton but “dire” seems like an appropriate word to me.

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  • ukmuslim
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:29PM

    @bollywood hates america
    @bollywood
    @Beware

    india and bollywood was behind shahrukh khan because he is a proud indian. indians consider brotherhood on national level and NOT on RELIGION. hammer this in your head.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/16/bollywood-anger-shah-rukh-khan-us-immigration

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  • ukmuslim
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:40PM

    @Beware
    i am quite curious why pakistanis are so much obsessed by brotherhood concept. even if they are rejected by other muslim nations, pakistanis just try to behave TOO BROTHERLY. simply annoys me. literally beyond my sense. a fitting reply by INDIAN MUSLIM.

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  • rehmat
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:40PM

    @beware:
    “america whole indian muslims whole bollywood is with pakistan. all muslims countries with china and russia will attack you.even sikhs with pakistan”

    The 4 Khasn do not constitute Bollywood. Also even if Shah Rukh may have some frustrations with USA, it does not mean he supports terrorism emanating from Pakistan. There is no evidence that the other 3 Khans have any anti-USA feeling let alone rest of Bollywood.

    As for Indian Muslims in general – where did you get the idea that all of us would support Pakistan? DO you know how many Muslims are there in the Indian armed forces who has primarily been called upon to defend themselves against Pakistani attack? IF we wanted to support Pakistan we would have moved over at time of partition. AndSikhs supporting Pakistan? You guys are making Sikhs pay jazia in many parts of Pakistan. The large SIkh population in Pakistan at time of partition has significantly reduced due whereas the one in India has thrived and grown.

    China has never fought on behalf of Pakistan – not even in 1965 – barely 3 years after the Indo-China war. Ypu expect that it will fight USA which is its biggest export market by far? And for what? They too are frustrated by terror emanating from Pakistan and have communicated that to your leadership.Recommend

  • Samir
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:43PM

    @ Beware – let it be clear that we Indian Muslims DO NOT stand with Pakistan in its support of terrorists and hatred. We chose to stay in India. Happy? Also, why on earth would Sikhs side with Pakistan? That comment alone is hilarious. Sikhs are very happy in India and doing very well. Notice how we have a Sikh Prime Minister? Ever think of how poorly Pakistan treats the Sikh community?

    Pakistanis – wake up. Recommend

  • ABC
    Oct 24, 2011 - 8:52PM

    Mother in law…….may be we terminate marriage contract if you push so hard

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  • Freeman
    Oct 24, 2011 - 9:20PM

    @anonymous: They have already done in 1989 to 2001 and American sanction policy failed against Pakistan. It will give Pakistan a good chance to stand its own feet.

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  • saleem
    Oct 24, 2011 - 9:24PM

    We have been facing the wrath of Allah in the shape of our leaders. Does she think such petty threats would scare us?Recommend

  • listen
    Oct 24, 2011 - 9:36PM

    dear pakistan taliban ask jigya from sikhs

    read rediff.com pakistan taliban is created by india

    they killed many children and women also in pakistan

    and go and read farhan akhtar comments on america

    when libya gaddaafi killed.

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  • AK
    Oct 24, 2011 - 9:45PM

    @rehmat: We’re also glad that you didn’t come over to Pakistan during partition. Please stay in India and continue trolling Pakistani websites like your other Indian brethren every day. It gives us some spicy comedy and fun.

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  • sher e punjab
    Oct 24, 2011 - 10:10PM

    bravo…. aunty no 1… better dont put your nose in our internal matters… did you people ever imagine that what you trying to do with this world… we make atomic bomb..we trying to become powerful.
    what is your problem? did we ever interfere in your internal matters? you simply blaming blaming blaming… have sense please..this is not stone age..wake up aunty…be modernized and civilized.

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  • Saboor
    Oct 24, 2011 - 10:14PM

    Mother-in-law complains when she is in washington….lol

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  • nirode mohanty
    Oct 24, 2011 - 10:26PM

    @beware:
    Please do not entangle Indian Muslims in Pakistan’s internal problems. Pakistan has created this chaos. Indian Muslims are with India.
    Please do not bring religious communality.
    The creation of Pakistan is a different story..Recommend

  • Zavia
    Oct 24, 2011 - 10:33PM

    Dear Sasu Maan! You better use your Tax Payers money in the right direction, so that you may have some control on the other side of the border.

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  • malik
    Oct 24, 2011 - 11:16PM

    Pakistan will face dire consequences, says Clinton and all the commenters are jumping around saying US can’t do anything to their mighty country. It is better to heed that warning ….you ignore it at your own peril….

    God forbid, if one more terrorist attack happens with a Pak footprint….

    Many of you won’t have Internet connection then to protest the consequences that will follow….

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  • Rafi Ka Deewana
    Oct 24, 2011 - 11:32PM

    @AK: “@rehmat: We’re also glad that you didn’t come over to Pakistan during partition. Please stay in India and continue trolling Pakistani websites like your other Indian brethren every day. It gives us some spicy comedy and fun.”

    Same goes with you, AK. So glad you are on that side of the border.Recommend

  • LOK
    Oct 24, 2011 - 11:48PM

    Pakistan need to sort out haqqanis and likes, US need to get out of the region.

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  • buttjee
    Oct 24, 2011 - 11:58PM

    @Khan:
    US has not been able to win in Iraq because removal of Saddam was not the main aim of their invasion. The Nur ul Maliki’s Government, which is the US creation, is no longer willing to tolerate the US troops on its soil because of their growing ties with Iran. Once the US troops finally leave Iraq, it will be a pro Iran country and not a pro US country. From that point of view Saddam perhaps would have been a better choice. At least he was a bitterly anti Iran ruler of Iraq.

    In Afghanistan again the US has failed because after fighting the longest war of their history they are no where near their final objective. They have neither been able to eliminate terrorism nor they have been able to finish the Taliban. Realizing the serious limitations of their military might they are now running around to bring the Taliban on negotiations table. The US is very keen to get to some kind of settlement with the Taliban because they know that the moment they pull out from Afghanistan, the minority Government of Kabul will not be able to hold on to the onslaught of Taliban. Today Taliban are not the rulers of Afghanistan but they are a reality which the US has failed to subdue.

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  • jade
    Oct 25, 2011 - 12:49AM

    false title shame on you ET. Hillary has not said any thing new or the way you tried to show.

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  • Oct 25, 2011 - 12:49AM

    @CommonSense:
    This for guy like Vasan,Digvijay singh and their likes.What makes you think Indians in position to “TALK DOWN” to people of Pakistan?Answer to, Mr common sense, about 122 district which are under direct control of Naxuls,not to speak of Manipur and Nagaland?You have any answer?,I’m sure you do not have any argument or answer?,We have active insurgency in so many places,it is mind boggling you have the nerve to to talk down,your tone need to be toned down.Only yesterday congress announced it is going to play openly ‘minority muslim card in U.P. election just to be respectable.?Pl.for pete sake,India& Indians are in many respect, are in no position to advice Pakistan,the only reason it is seemingly doing better it has 8 time territory,and 6 times more people,so if 200 million are doing ok,it looks respectable,nothing more,in UNO, deta,we are not whole lot better than sub-saharan African nations,don’t believe it,go google it,do not offer your advice to Pakistan,it rackles these folks who are having tough times as it is,you can ignore all that is wrong in India,that’s what 200 million Indians including Delhi govt does to rest 1 billion people and some how they are now world power?,pl,take a good luck in real “IEANA’,it is very ugly,full of corruption,dirt and malnourished childern,I take no pleasure in shinning light on that,you guys with attitude force me to.To Pakistani folks who get upset,pl,understand every one is not a J*K,whose name sounds Indian,Sorry.

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  • Rao
    Oct 25, 2011 - 12:52AM

    Many comments are just based on Head lines for this News item.

    ‘’Clinton commended recent intelligence help from Pakistan’’

    ‘’US doesn’t want Pakistan to attack Militarily’’

    ‘’Pakistan can take help of NATO to contain the Militants’’

    Above headlines derived from ‘news item’ also can be made as Headlines, but who will read? Media according to the present sentiments, highlighting selected parts to increase their TRP.

    I pity for normal Pakistanis, whom everybody is taking a ride!

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  • Oct 25, 2011 - 1:49AM

    It saddens me very much when some seemingly good people get rackeled by some thoughtless trolling,(I did not really know untill very recently,the term trolling).I assure you when we keep our doors and windows of our mind and heart open,more good things will happen,that has been the natrual law,believe me when I say,the mind must be discriminating enough to filter garbage out.Do not put barriers,walls and censors,a society as well as every person should be fearless,”Kya,rekha(LAKIR OF HAND) our batho sey math kha gaye?’Did you lose to fate and mere talk defeated you?,it does not sound as well as it sounds in urdu.But I guess you guys do get it.I was unaware of this “tribune Express,I’m glad I did though 69 years late.PLEASE Don’t ask people, some misuse their privllege,not to use this blogg,yes some are beyond the pale,but life does come in all hue and color.Wise neither grieve nor rejoice,they stay tranquil..Change yourself,what you want in others.Thank you,HM,njusa

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  • butterfly
    Oct 25, 2011 - 2:08AM

    @beware:
    Thankyou..you are a great person..:)

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  • khub
    Oct 25, 2011 - 3:07AM

    @beware: Are you sure or you are just dreaming?lolzz..we guys love to fancy ourselves with nice thoughts..which are far from reality.. Its high time we self analyse us as mentioned by Hasan nisar , asghar khan etc

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  • Syed Haider
    Oct 25, 2011 - 4:26AM

    Misleading title. She means dire consequences from the militants, not from the US. The militants are as big a threat to Pakistan as they are to Afghanistan, & no one knows that better than the Pakistani Establishment.

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  • Spud
    Oct 25, 2011 - 4:35AM

    @Muhammad: Your enemies are not India but thinking such as this and the Islamists. These have kept you backward for too long. Wake up and mend your ways or you will continue to stay backward.

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  • Homa
    Oct 25, 2011 - 5:44AM

    Hillary rocks!

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  • vasan
    Oct 25, 2011 - 6:05AM

    Commonsense : You are again off the mark. I never said how to handle terrorism. My 2 points were
    1. Contain terrorism, whichever way you deem fit. It is true irrespective of who says it.
    2. Dont treat India as your enemy which it is not.

    As simple as that,

    And for your knowledge of insurgents in India, let me update you a bit. Once Myanmar and Bangladesh turned over the culprits of ULFA, the violence in Assam and Tripura have died down. For your info, they have surrendered all their arms and their leaders are negotiating with Indian govt.
    Naxalites were never handled thru Indian army. Indian army is only in the borders. Only the police are handling them. Being pathetically equipped and empowered, they are always at the receiving end from the naxals. Still there is raging argument to use air power against them. But no one has agreed to for that idea. We are still trying to negotiate with them.

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  • Pragmatist
    Oct 25, 2011 - 6:26AM

    @Rafi Ka Deewana:
    Right. No other country has done more to bring a bad name to the “Ummah” than Pakistan. By openly fomenting terrorism, it has given Islam a bad name. In our neighborhood, we have Muslims all around us and we share our food on Hindu and Muslim festivities without any notion of belonging to different ideologies. Pakistan needs to do more.

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  • Khan
    Oct 25, 2011 - 8:46AM

    Look, this is the bottom line, (You’ve got some nuclear weapon which the world don’t feel safe about them in your position…) Give up the weapon or face distruction!

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  • CommonSense
    Oct 25, 2011 - 9:16AM

    @vasan
    Even the pot senses the irony when it calls kettle black. Since your such a security expert, why dont you go advise your government which has its own problems and insurgencies to handle, instead of telling us what to do. And also spare us the sacred cow routine because even in your country, everyone from Anna Hazare to Amitabh Bachan feel the need to whip up Anti Pakistan routine every now and then to score points with the public. Atleast if you have some guts then display honest intentions
    On your point #2: we ARE fighting terrorism and also negotiating with elements, just like the US is doing the same. Everyone wants to quickly wrap up this war. It is in Pakistan’s interest, US interest, Indian interest and regional interest.
    Also you dont need to update me, unlike you I read the news and check my facts before countering someone. As another Indian pointed out in the comment section, 83 districts in 9 states are under Naxal control and this insurgency has been going on for 40 years. Clearly like you pointed out that even your security is being attacked by such elements, and you face problems in tackling the problem through negotiation and/or military strategy. This itself should make you sympathize with the predicament we face when we do the same.
    I will again ask you to please go sort out your own house and stay out of our own. Recommend

  • True PAKISTANI
    Oct 25, 2011 - 9:59AM

    let your threat happens then.. who will suffer, we will see

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  • vasan
    Oct 25, 2011 - 10:11AM

    Hariharmani : Your comments lack sense. Who claimed superiority of India over Pakistan. Who claimed India is a the most peaceful land in the world. Every country big or small has its own problems and deals with it in its own way some times slow and some times fast. Things get very murky when it spills over the neighbourhood, and then the neighbour comes over and yells at you. This is what is happening due to the terrorists between India and Pakistan, That is precisely why I wrote in my original comment that hopefully Pakistan contains terrorism. They have lost a lot due to terrorism Indeed, I also know that they will gain more than Indians do, if terrorism is contained. But Indians have also been losing due to this factor. To say this fact, being said by everyone in the world over, is not talking down on Pakistan. It is a hope.
    No other country suffers due to naxalism or the contained terrorism in Assam and Nagaland. Therefore it is purely an Indian problem and is being dealt in our own way.

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  • M Bilal
    Oct 25, 2011 - 11:27AM

    Who ever is serving the American causes is an ally or strategic asset, and once the purpose has been accomplished, its terrorist since then. Not long, when we are gonna be declared a terrorist state officially by US.

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  • Arbab M. Waseem
    Oct 25, 2011 - 9:07PM

    @VINOD: bro go back to 80’s and U will understand who created this mess who financed that mess and who didnt takre any remdial measures. its all clear, its simple only for those who wish to understand

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  • Arbab M. Waseem
    Oct 25, 2011 - 9:34PM

    @anonymous:
    hey U r forgetting one thing…….U didnt isolate IRAN……U cant isolate Pakistan……because U always need someone to help U come out of thre mess……Recommend

  • Arbab M. Waseem
    Oct 25, 2011 - 9:42PM

    @vasan: bro i would like to answer it on behalf of MUHAMMAD….. we already suffered dearly…..People on both sides love each other dearly……only politician make mess of everything they are responsible for our sore ties…….for ten years we are suffering because of commitment to the so called War for Land, oil blah blah blah i will call it because of absurd timid politicians. Recommend

  • Arbab M. Waseem
    Oct 25, 2011 - 9:51PM

    @MarkH: hey KID dont waste ur time here…….go get ur soldiers out of afghanistan they are having really bad nightmares, go ask Obama to solve ur economic problems…….ur govt have already spent trillions of dollars in an un-ending war……..its been ten years and now u r loosing in afghanistan, iraq. History is repeating ……i wonder what happened after Vietnam war…….dont mind but U asked for something special i gave it to U :DRecommend

  • Arbab M. Waseem
    Oct 25, 2011 - 10:07PM

    hey U all guys……U really want to make this world peaceful….if YES then ask ur governments and ur people not to get involve in internal affairs of a country…..Change ur foreign policy of creating proxies, allies against enemies and make this world a better place to live for us, for our future generations.
    I wish this could have happened :-(((

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  • buttjee
    Oct 25, 2011 - 11:10PM

    @Rafi Ka Deewana:
    You are absolutely right. India is your country and we wish you well in your homeland. After all why should we think about the Muslims of India. They are not the only Muslims in the world. We the Pakistanis should not feel concerned even if Narinder Modi kills another few thousands of your creed or if some of you face the police brutalities on fake charges or the Indian Government lets loose its state terrorism against the people of Kashmir or if some Muslim Kashmiri women are raped by the Indian security forces. Like wise your no one to advise us on fighting the terrorism or blaming us for double gaming. You have a mind set thoroughly poluted with Anti Pakistan propaganda. The fact which people should know is that there was no terrorism in Pakistan before the US invasion of Afghanistan and before the unholy nexus between the Tajik minority set up in Kabul and the Indian Intelligence had flourished under the sponsorship of US. By the US definition you may consider Taliban as terrorists but they are actually fighting for the liberation of their country. On the other hand Pakistan has experienced Terrorism originating from Afghanistan. We have successfully fought the terrorism we know how to fight terrorism, much better than anyone else would know. By the way tell me any country related to the Afghan conflict which is not shamelessly involved in double gaming. Every country has the right to defend its national interests and Pakistan should not be expected to be an exception.

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  • Oct 26, 2011 - 10:33AM

    @Arbab M. Waseem: Dear Sir, we all know that it was the creation of USA.They were smart to draw Pakistan in this. But what purpose it will serve to face the reality to day. The fact is today you have snakes in your back yard. Who brought them, we all know, but how to get rid of these snakes is our problem and we must face it. The answer is to stop selective support of snakes –
    kill them all otherwise these will bite all of us.

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