This logic ignores some realities. First,if this was always the rationale for supporting some factions of the Taliban then Pakistan should not have taken financial help for its military to pretend to be an ally of NATO. True, some al Qaeda operatives were handed over to the Americans but it was never stated by any decision-maker of Pakistan in an official capacity that this country will also favour, or at least not fight against, the enemies of those whose allies they pretend to be. As this is a moral argument I know it will cut no ice with any decision-maker in the world of realpoltik whether Pakistani or American.
I now come to the second argument: that if the Taliban really take over in Afghanistan their influence will come to Pakistan and our society will become more Talibanised. The Taliban and allied Islamist groups have an ideology in which they fervently believe and which they want to impose upon the whole country. We have seen how they actually do impose it in the areas under their command whether it be Afghanistan, parts of Fata or Swat. Do we want this to happen or do we not? This question has never been seriously debated nor are our people aware of what aspects of their lives will change and how if this happens. What we need are clear cut blueprints of what will happen based on the past models of such rule and even interviews of Islamist thinkers. Since people respond emotionally to sacred terms and the rhetoric used by the Islamist thinkers abounds in such terms people appear to favour the Taliban’s discourse or, at least, so not oppose it. Perhaps this is because by Islamic law people often mean just ‘good governance’ and democracy is often considered synonymous with political and pecuniary corruption. So, even a referendum may not tell us what people really want but it is still better than not discussing the issue at all.
The third argument is that Pakistan has lost its sovereignty in parts of FATA, including North Waziristan, where it is not possible to move without the permission of local commanders. This does not seem to bother the media but it is a point worth making because people talk so much about the loss of our sovereignty vis-a-vis the US drones (which operate by our military’s permission and were praised by a major general recently for eliminating militant leaders). So, if militant networks operate here and in Afghanistan there is the possibility of losing FATA fully to them.
The fourth argument is that most Pakistanis respond in a hysterical manner to the Americans because of anti-Americanism in our society. Now, surely the Americans are here in their perceived national interest. But to overreact to their demands — and such demands are made of allies — means that we are not taking care of our interests. Our real interest is to take as much real civilian aid from the US to create the kind of infrastructure in medicine, education, security and transport which will bring about a real relief in the lives of our people. I know that most aid goes back to donor countries in the name of experts, monitors and consultants but still there is some left to make real changes not only in the bank balances of English-knowing Pakistanis but also in the country as a whole. Someone really farsighted has to channel the aid money into projects where the infrastructure improves and not into chimerical projects of which examples abound but it would be invidious to go into them.
The matter of anti-Americanism is not a small issue. If our media goes wild at every issue we will make it impossible for our government to seek aid and to change policies which keep changing every other day because reality shifts fast. What we have to tell our people is that Pakistan and the US have both sought their respective national interest in their past relationship. Pakistan joined Seato and Cento and gave bases to the American in the fifties and sixties so as to get military aid as the governments then considered India their enemy and for that they wanted military aid. Later, in 1971 the US did not actually send troops to help Pakistan but it did warn India against continuing the war on the western front after December 16. In the 1980s, Pakistan helped the US fight a proxy war against the Soviet Union in exchange for aid, for American silence on Pakistan’s development of a nuclear weapon and support to General Zia’s rule. And now Pakistan has, since Musharraf’s days, done what it thinks is enough to ensure the constant flow of military aid without actually eliminating the Taliban. These facts are not known to our people who think all their leaders are paid stooges of the Americans.
So now that we are on the crossroads let our leaders make an informed choice but, for a change, make it public and honest. Let its pros and cons be clearly stated. If we had always been neutral we could also have avoided all American wars in this area and not have terrorist groups on our soil to begin with. But then we would have made friends with India and not initiated wars ourselves. But now even if we opt for neutrality we would still have to impose the writ of the state in Pakistan. This would mean not having armed groups or no-go areas on our soil. But we do not seem to care about these things. Can it true that nobody really wants peace and nobody is afraid of the militants or even Talibanization and that I am out of tune with the real strategic minds of the country?
Published in The Express Tribune, October 4th, 2011.
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I disagree. Talibanization of Afghanistan is only for proxy purpose.
yes sir you are right but you are in list of people who are standing before masses and the group of analysts and writers having different opinion than you much more in number .it is said do not lose hope every thing will be alright but i don't see any hope in my surrounding.every coming day is sending us in more darkness .GHQ Attack Abbotabad raid,naval base incident and hundreds of other attacks .how can we claim that we are sovereign state .every next incident proves our failure but still we are willing to negotiate with Taliban . i am not supporter of use of force instead of reconciliation but i just want to ask should we forget SWAT peace accord and its result and all those accords of FATA in Mussharraf regime
Pakistan is getting talibanized already, the darhi/beard,is now acceptable even for educated CEO of Corporate world. The scarf and burqa is being propogated thru major tv channels who are competing with more religious shows.Compare this with 1960,70, or even 80, people seem to be discussing religion at dinners and parties, Jinnah Pakistan is losing out to Maududi Pakistan. First it was the ahmadi, then the ismalis, now the over all shias , tomorrow there will be no one to stand up against this thing whatever name
The radicals want us to share in their delusions. Whatever psychological satisfaction it may provide the answer is not to share in it but rather to use "our very own thinking capabilities" to evaluate thier actions. Although perpectival shades may jeopardise the liberty of the people ( as in delusional people thinking that deluding others may actually be virtuous ) this process must be undertaken for the good of humanity.
Religion may not heed the cries of thought and dismiss it in some cases under the banner of Satanic thoughts, but I'm sure that the abstract must not precede the concrete, even theough the concrete may only be understood in light of the abstract.
In view of this, we must be true to ourselves which we cannot be without being true to our allies. The fight gainst repression is not a proxy war; we are fighting for our very own freedom of thought and way of living, which may embrace other systems but does not allow a particular way of thinking to dominate another by unfair means.
Take any road and hope for the best That is what they call CONFIDANCE
Thank you sir, the bus has already taken the road !
The only question is when we have to jump off the bus and what are the odds of us surviving such a jump. Those on the bus are doomed anyway.
Nobody learns from mere talk. People in Swat learned it the hard way. I think it is our destiny to suffer Taliban rule in cities like Lahore and Karachi first to realise it may not be a good idea. Yes, we shall have to sacrifice this brain-washed generation to extremism before the next one comes to sanity, if at all
The huge welcome the garbage from the Doctor has received is indicative of the mindset of the alumni of the English-medium schools. Obviously none of them, not even the kindly professor has ever heard of Yaghistan. Then the great pundit and those singing his tune in chorus would have known why the army is chary of marching into NW with guns blazing and drums beating.
It is totally absurd to assume that if Taliban come back to power in Afghanistan they will do the same that they did before, unless you assume that they are like Pakistanis who never learn a lesson from history and repeat the same mistakes over again. .
i fail to understand our strategic asset is in Afghanistan or in Pakistan where 60% youth resides, we need to decide today we need Pakistan or Taliban.
I can am sure after much debate and thoughtful analysis, Pakistan will take the wrong road :-(
Arindom : Spelling mistake in your comment. It is "Strategic DEATH"
A very interesting read. I do agree with most of your points of writ of govt all over Pakistan and having a proper policy for future. I do have some reservations to some of your arguments such as that once there is a Taliban state, Pakistan will get more Talibanized. I would disagree with that assumption because even before US attacked Afghanistan. Taliban were there not bothering Pakistan, in fact most of the nut jobs and criminals from here were attracted or ran to Afghanistans Taliban Islam Emirate which I think was in Pakistans favour ;). Secondly when you talk about the writ of the government you fail to see what happens in Karachi let alone FATA. Then FATA has always been different than the other provinces and also treated differently. Lastly I think there are people who do not want peace and would like to see US stuck here for a longer period of time. The CIA chief has been quoted as saying that as soon as they leave Pakistan will be able to control these militants. As far as the Talibanization is concerned. When the Taliboys will have their own Utopian state then there will be no need for them to try and radicalize Pakistan, theyl be much more busy brainwashing Afghanis :). The Media today has come a long way and I am certain that along with the presence of a strong government in Pakistan, Talibanization will not be a big concern.
Any road is good except the one that leads to GHQ
Nice article. One wonders what benefit Pakistan's leaders think they are going to get by having influence over the Taliban if they ever take over Afghanistan - the last time the Taliban were in charge what did Pakistan get out of that? I hope the perceived upside of having influence over Afghanistan is significant because the downside of making an enemy of America and becoming the next N. Korea is enormous
This time around, having defeated the superpower without any help from another superpower, (unlike soviet defeat with american help), their demand and goal both In afghanistan and pakistan would be nothing short of imposition of sharia, which will lead to subjugation of whatever liberty is left in this country.
Sir, You rightly say that if Pakistan was never really committed to supporting the US from day 1, then it should not have pretended to be its ally and continued taking money from it. This is absolutely the correct moral position to hold. Believe it or not, morals do still matter in our world today. Pakistan's global reputation is dust because its word has absolutely no value or credibility any more. No one can trust anything that it says, because it has got into a habit of saying one thing and doing something else. Duplicity, unfortunately, seem to have become second nature for the army/ISI folks who run the country, who think that they are great strategists and playing a grand strategic game by running with the hare and hunting with the hound at the same time. Only problem is that rest of the world are not fools. They are watching and making up their owns minds what this pattern of behaviour says about the moral character of the country. Yes, realpolitik is necessary in politics and international relations, but nations are ultimately defined by the morals and values that they hold. Defining yourself either through your intolerance on religion, or your double-dealing on other matters is not a good way to go. Sooner Pakistan realizes this basic fact, the better it will be for itself, and for the rest of the world.
"Strategic Depth"!!
Pakistani mad and humiliated generals are only interested in defeating America in Afghanistan. All other issues will be dealt with later.
All these anti islamic atheist articles are getting boring now...seriously.
Which road to take? Multan karachi will be better....
good article.. well balanced. The strategic depth concept is pushing us to the depth of isolation and destruction.
Thanks to an ideology driven, unscrupulous media and educational system, the typical Pakistani has been steeped in a paranoid, Islamist, Anti-American world view that is so far divorced from reality that one simply shakes his head in disbelief. It may be that this generation of Pakistanis is destined to surrender its' collective soul to extremism, and leave it to future generations to break the yoke of religious fascism and rediscover modern concepts of freedom, justice and egalitarianism, just as the current generation of young Iranians is now striving.
If the Taliban come to power in Kabul, or even share power with the other ethnic groups, this group with the shared ties of kinmanship, clan, tribe, ethniciity and the absence of a real defining border between Afghanistan and Pakistan will have the same religious influence within the extended groups and sub groups into areas of Khyber Pustunkhwa, other cities of Pakistan where large number of this ethnic group memeber reside.
A city like Karachi which is the largest Pashtun city in the world, even more Pastuns reside there then in Kabul could possibly see an unncessary exacerbation of ehtnic divisions. In the heat of victory the imposition of retrogressive ideas under the name of relgious laws will prevail whether the Constitution or the mutilations carried out on it accept these ideas or not, it will be enforced by the abundant arms and those jumping on the bandwagon of victory.
As an example of how ideas pervasively travel across borders with speed, one needs to look at the aftereffects of the Iranian revolution and the overall affect it had over the followers of the Shia sect after 1979, When appearences, dress code and militancy had a significantly increased influence over this group within Pakistan.
I happened to witness the takeover of Tehran by Iranian militants after the overthrow of the Shah in February 1979. And nothing in the world would want one to experience the violvence that can be exhibited by religious zealots trying to force change to society in the name of religion and revolution.
Yes sir, you are right. You are no match to the gteatest strategic minds of this country from GHQ, who have bestowed upon you this great nation.