A fatal intolerance

Published: March 4, 2011
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The writer is CEO of Strategic Technology Resources, a former head of the Institute of Strategic Studies in Islamabad and a former editor of The Nation

The writer is CEO of Strategic Technology Resources, a former head of the Institute of Strategic Studies in Islamabad and a former editor of The Nation

Regardless of who murdered Shahbaz Bhatti, we as a nation must accept collective responsibility. In my last interaction with him, he spoke of the leadership being told of his security problems and the lack of response in terms of getting a bullet-proof car — many of which have been commandeered by the more powerful and less needy — or a house in the ministers’ enclave. What was so noticeable, even then, was his resigned tone rather than anger at this criminal neglect — a determined soul, he exuded a decency and calmness missing from so many of his cabinet colleagues. His murder is our collective national shame. We have watched ineffectively as our minorities have been subject to increasing persecution and insecurity as a culture of bigotry and intolerance has spread, marginalising the minorities and trampling on the diversity that was the soul of the Pakistani nation. The militarisation of our society — where recourse to violence in daily life is always the preferred option, be it two students arguing or political parties confronting each other — has continued unhindered.

Exclusivity is all around too. The so-called ‘westernised elite’ comes out to protest and hold vigils for those murdered by alleged religious extremists but fails to act in a similar fashion to protest the killing of innocent people by drones in Fata, or the regular kidnappings and abuse of Hindus in Sindh. The religious protestors come out in thousands in defence of the faith, but then become party to a murderous spree of sectarian and targeted killings, despite the fact that the Holy Quran clearly condemns the murder of even a single human being.

Militarisation has been accompanied by growing ignorance all around. We have lost all sense of logic and rationality when confronting ‘the other’ and this loss is not reflected only in militant extremists but in all segments of our society. Intolerance fed on ignorance is all-pervasive, from the common man to the elite. We do not counter arguments with logical responses and facts with counter-facts to undermine the stance of those we disagree with. So accusatory labels are bandied about — “liberals, fundos, ghairat brigade,” and other such names have all become terms of abuse for the opponent, with each group equally unable to accept an inclusivist approach.

I was highly amused to find on these pages my being subject to such name-calling instead of facts to disprove my arguments. Unfortunately, Lilliputian minds like Khurram Husain’s lack the intellectual acumen or skills to present logic, so they conveniently resort to cheap shots while revealing their ignorance, including on the North Korean nuclear issue. For instance, it needs to be remembered that in 1994, the US had signed a bilateral agreement, known as the ‘Agreed Framework’, with North Korea to provide heavy fuel oil and help complete a 100 MW light water reactor in return for North Korea to remain in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to freeze its clandestine nuclear programme. Unfortunately, the US failed to live up to its end of the bargain and the agreement finally collapsed totally in 2002. So the course the North Koreans have adopted since then has a US footprint in it!

As for the US-Pakistan relationship, in my mind there is no ‘maybe’ in terms of the US destabilising Pakistan every time it has come into an alliance with it — beginning from the fifties to the present. I have published a cost-benefit analysis many times on different aspects of this relationship with the conclusion that the benefits have been short-term and limited, while the costs have been extensive and long-term. Whether it was the distortion of our external policy regional demands in the fifties and sixties, when we went into absurd pacts like Cento and Seato; or the US’s propping up of dictators or distortions in our economy including in the agricultural sector; or the eventual fatal boost to militancy and extremism, there has been an intrinsic destabilisation factor in this relationship for the Pakistani state and nation. Of course, the actual killing of Pakistanis, with tacit support from the Pakistani leadership (both political and military), through drones or CIA covert and overt operations, is the most acute form of destabilisation the US-Pakistan alliance has wrought on the Pakistanis. Where are the facts to prove otherwise?

Additionally, the US-India nuclear deal has also upped the nuclear ante in the region by allowing India to increase its weapons fissile material from the unsafeguarded fuel, now ‘liberated’ from its civilian reactors. So, when Pakistan is accused of producing more weapons and the anti-nuclear lobbies willy-nilly target us, and Ms Clinton holds forth at the Conference on Disarmament in Geneva that the world has “more than 20,000 nuclear weapons” and bemoans the continuing production of fissile material across the globe, who are the real culprits? Of these 20,000 nuclear weapons, the US has 9,400 and the Russians 10,000 warheads! Out of the US stock, only 4,000 await elimination while the Russians are going to eliminate a larger fraction of their warheads. So who are the real culprits in terms of lack of movement towards nuclear disarmament?

In the context of the Fissile Material Cut-off Treaty also, the US is destabilising the nuclear disarmament process by not accepting the rational position that existing stockpiles are first reduced and then a cut-off date is implemented. Presently, in terms of plutonium stockpiles (including civilian and military), Russia holds an estimated 181.7 metric tons; the US 91.8 metric tons; India 3.74 metric tons; Japan 36.1 metric tons; Pakistan 0 metric tons. For Highly Enriched Uranium stocks, the US holds 745 metric tons; Russia 1,282 metric tons; Pakistan 2.6 metric tons; India 1.3 metric tons. But how many of our anti-nuclear lobbyists understand where the US and Pakistan are coming from on these crucial issues?

Whichever front we examine, our ignorance is aggravating our intolerance and it is destroying our soul as a nation. We simply have to move out of this fatal trap by embracing inclusiveness and knowledge.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 5th, 2011.

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Reader Comments (79)

  • Mar 4, 2011 - 11:07PM

    Sometimes I wonder how would Shireen Mazari and likes would argue if there were no drone attacks. Recommend

  • Nadeem Ahmed
    Mar 4, 2011 - 11:11PM

    Why would I or any average Joe should be held responsible for the mess we are in due to irresponisble behaviour of politicians, army, mullahs and media. First of all, which hakim had told Mr. Bhatti to ask his security guards to leave him unsecured in a private visit? As a federal minister, was he not aware of threats he was getting? When our leaders will get serious and do something. Recommend

  • Amaar
    Mar 4, 2011 - 11:15PM

    Your article makes a U-turn from talking about minorities being persecuted by Pakistan to the actions of Americans! So much for your intellectual acumen!

    Your criticism of US might be partly or wholly right but as a Pakistani you need to be bothered about Pakistanis – not Americans.Recommend

  • Asaf
    Mar 4, 2011 - 11:26PM

    Madam, don’t you think your constant and one-sided tirades against the US and India are perhaps contributing to this “intolerance”? You fulminate against this “exclusivity” yet nonchalantly use terms like ‘westernized elite’ and falsely imply that they support drone attacks. The utter dereliction of duty, notwithstanding haphazard attempts, on the part of our security apparatus to subdue and neutralize the extremist elements necessitates others to meddle as this ideology is clearly spilling over Pakistani borders and becoming a grave concern for others.
    In your article you disapprove of name calling and yet mentioned Mr. Khurram Hussain, by name, having “Lilliputian mind”? Is this not name calling? You went to great lengths to prove your intellectual prowess in the realm of nuclear treaties, etc. Good for you. 
    Now, how do you propose ridding Pakistan from this menace of extremism, without blaming the US and India for once?Recommend

  • faraz
    Mar 4, 2011 - 11:32PM

    Musharraf allowed US to expand intelligence in FATA and to carry out drone strikes, and you were appointed by Musharraf as head of the ISS which is a pro establishment think tank funded by the foreign ministry, and you remained there until 2008. It is the same establishment which indoctrinated children from poor families to wage proxy wars and allowed CIA to carry out drone strikes. This strange dual policy is the man reason for our misery. So instead of blaming those who hold no power, you should criticize the real institutions of the state which develop such policies. Recommend

  • Malik
    Mar 4, 2011 - 11:37PM

    Regardless of who murdered Shahbaz
    Bhatti, we as a nation must accept
    collective responsibility.

    Of course you will say that, trying to move attention from the real perpetrators Punjabi Taliban fascists.Recommend

  • billo
    Mar 4, 2011 - 11:49PM

    As an English language writer and commentator, Ms. Mazari is as much a part of the “so called westernized elite” that she criticizes to the peanut gallery. And Ms. Mazari conveniently forgets her own role in promoting intolerance and ignorance in the country. Though more or less any issue of her own newspaper will suffice to prove the point, have we already forgotten that she accused an award-winning Australian photojournalist of being a “mysterious american” and CIA agent? Those in glass houses, Ms. Mazari…Recommend

  • Pan Mat
    Mar 5, 2011 - 12:39AM

    The author is talking like a socialist, she is assuming USA, Russia and Pakistan are at par. Hence Pakistan has right to question legitimacy of their nuclear arsenal, But USA and Russia are not investing in nuclear arms at the expense of investments in education, health care and other aspects of human development.

    Pakistan has every right to look them in the eye but then not be under any illusion that any financial aid will be coming their way.

    I would urge the author’s common sense, how come there is someone (other than Pakistan) always responsible for things wrong in your country?Recommend

  • Mastishhk
    Mar 5, 2011 - 12:48AM

    @Author….Whats the correlation between killing Of Mr Bhatti and Nuclear stockpile.????
    The article began well but then it meandered into a totally different tangent.Recommend

  • American
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:26AM

    Shireen Mazari criticising others is like a pot calling the kettle black.Recommend

  • Humayun
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:26AM

    After assassination of Salman Taseer an effigy of Bhatti was burnt during a pro blasphemy law rally(anti amendment rally) in Lahore. Why do you and Imran Khan blame everything on America and India when people in our cities loudly advocate murder. Please for godsake stop this. Many people in this country consider murder a form of worship. Deal with them. By the way if you have such a big problem with USA then ask your friends in the ISI to stop taking money from America in the form of military aid out of the coalition fund. Recommend

  • sandy
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:29AM

    “trampling on the diversity that was the soul of the Pakistani nation” – what diversity are you so proudly talking about??? The diversity was killed back in 1947 itself when you claimed your nationhood on the basis that hindus and muslims are two separate nations and could never live together! What you are reaping today is the natural consequence of that basic mindset!Recommend

  • Uza Syed
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:38AM

    This woe-man is becoming pretty good at gobbledegoo —— does s/he really know what’s the point of the blah, blah, blah!Recommend

  • pl/sql
    Mar 5, 2011 - 2:31AM

    The only person who can appreciate this article is the great zaid hamid.Recommend

  • Haris Chaudhry
    Mar 5, 2011 - 2:32AM

    Ms Mazari,
    When was the last time America was begging us to accept the aid and loans ? What you fail to see through your anti-US anti India eyes is the reality that it has been us and not US who have always gone to Uncle Sam with our begging bowl because no other nation (out of 50 odd muslim nations) has the clout , economy or strategic foresight to save Pakistan….
    It has been our politicians, military and industrialists that have benefited from US but very regularly bags US in the same breath.

    The very military that our politicians could not stop “appeasing” has been the biggest benefactor of US’ largesse. If you take US’ weapons and aid out, our military might be as effective a military as Maldives’ armed forces..!

    Without US, we would fail within days. That is the reality of it. US’ aid, loans, rescheduling of IMF and World Bank loans at the behest of US is what is keeping us going.. Biting the hand that feeds this nation and has fed it for over 60 years and in return talking of national honour and sovereignty is comical.

    I dont understand the point that you are making in your article either.

    I am confused at the rather diverging issues from Bhatti’s murder to North Korea to Pak-US relationship to nuclear stock pile and then back to US-India-Russia bashing all covered with a rather simple assessment.

    Haris ChaudhryRecommend

  • sundar
    Mar 5, 2011 - 2:51AM

    ….our ignorance is aggravating our intolerance and it is destroying our soul as a nation. We simply have to move out of this fatal trap by embracing inclusiveness and knowledge…….

    Look who is talking? You never missed any opportunity to tow army’s line and vilify other nations especially India. Now you talk about intolerance, knowledge, national shame wow. As a journalist among other avatars, don’t you think you are also responsible for your countrymen’s ignorance and intolerance? Recommend

  • sandy
    Mar 5, 2011 - 2:58AM

    She calls herself an analyst??? What a shame that the entire article went from one point to other with no clue what the actual point is apart from usual rant against India and US covering more than 50% of space. Somehow, these “analysts” cant stop without bringing US and India and nuclear in every issue in Pak. And madam, for all your intelligent analysis, you shud check 2 weeks back there is international sensational report that Pakistan has more than 100 nuclear weapons while india 60. Pak is also expanding its reactors and plutonium enrichment at the fastest pace in the world, and none of it is under any safeguard or for electricity purpose. May be you shud stop having frequent dinner parties with Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul, I think you are badly infected. Recommend

  • moz
    Mar 5, 2011 - 3:04AM

    I knew she was going to bring U.S into this. Nothing new in her column. This is pure BS.Recommend

  • Aman
    Mar 5, 2011 - 3:15AM

    “We have watched ineffectively as our minorities have been subject to increasing persecution and insecurity as a culture of bigotry and intolerance has spread, marginalising the minorities and trampling on the diversity that was the soul of the Pakistani nation.” (emphasis mine)

    Diversity, soul of Pakistan? Which soul? Since when?

    Perhaps. Perhaps so: a soul as blemished as the “dawn of independence”.

    Finally. Assassination of a very well respected and brave minority leader and North Korea, and nuclear weapons. Have you no sense of decency, madam, at long last? Can’t you just mourn the death instead of being an apologist?

    Or being part of “so called westernized elite” preclude such decency? Recommend

  • Mar 5, 2011 - 3:50AM

    Dont miss any opportunity to peddle anti-Americanism and highlight ones own research and publications. A minister was assassinated! A minority is in turmoil, and the best you can come up with is to link it to nuclear fissile material and Hillary Clinton?

    And who exactly are these Westernized elites who support drone strikes? They Army supports drone strikes are you saying that they are Westernized elites? People across various social and economic backgrounds remain silent when Hindus have been kidnapped in Sind or Balochistan. Westernized elites may have been silent but they are many who have protested as well.

    Please dont diminish the protests for Mr. Bhatti. Most were lead by Christian activists, perhaps you should have joined them to condemn what happened? Or were you too busy looking into how America can be dragged into it?Recommend

  • Cautious
    Mar 5, 2011 - 5:00AM

    Pakistan has chosen a path the defines itself by it’s intolerance and xenophobia. It’s pretty obvious and perhaps your too close to the problem to see it. Think about it – your Indian’s who don’t tolerate other religions so you created your own country where you don’t have to tolerate other religions. Why does it surprise some that you treat religious minorities so poorly?Recommend

  • omar yusaf
    Mar 5, 2011 - 5:45AM

    @Amaar: A careful reading of what she is saying, does exactly that. She is bothered about Pakistanis. Disagreeing with someone’s views, should not mean you become blind to anything and everything they have to say. To do so is irrational and ignorant, which is also a growing problem in our ability- or lack of it – to engage in meaningful dialogue, without resorting to bad mouthing people we disagree with.Recommend

  • omar yusaf
    Mar 5, 2011 - 5:54AM

    @Asaf: Perhaps she is proposing that as a citizen of this country, (and dare I suggest – a member of the so called western elite), you should take to the streets and make your dissaproval well and truly known. Of course, the establishment is to blame for the allowances it has granted the Americans, but what have you and others done to challenge the establishment and demand that enough is enough?
    Pakistan is being abused, and terribly so, by outsiders as well as insiders.
    If you dont like it, and I suspect you dont, then do something about it, instead of shooting down the likes of Shireen, who merely try to open your eyes to the abuses going on around you.Recommend

  • Maulana Diesel
    Mar 5, 2011 - 6:10AM

    You have entered the Republic of Shireen Mazaristan! Recommend

  • John Bhatti
    Mar 5, 2011 - 7:12AM

    Miss Shireen M Mazari, please stop shedding crocodile tears for Mr. Bhatti. He does not need sympathy from people like you.Recommend

  • liyaqat
    Mar 5, 2011 - 7:59AM

    just thought to drop a line and say thank you by writing such a detailed write up. Keep it up madam…Recommend

  • Umayr Masud
    Mar 5, 2011 - 8:33AM

    Daily Nation is your playground .. please spare usRecommend

  • ani
    Mar 5, 2011 - 9:00AM

    When the time came to dedicate time and space to this young man’s ideals, the opportunity was taken to settle scores with India, USA and Khurram Husain! Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Mar 5, 2011 - 9:55AM

    I have read her articles in Nation, I wonder how did she manage to get a space here in ET !!!Recommend

  • Rehan
    Mar 5, 2011 - 10:00AM

    There was a proposal to expunge school text books of anti-India, anti-Hindu sentiments that breed hatred among the schoolchildren. Who stalled this proposal? None, but Shireen Mazari.Recommend

  • Mar 5, 2011 - 10:19AM

    Its is so funny when the elite try to divert attention from themselves by calling the other group as elite. Is Ms Mazari not part of the westernized elite. I am sure she wants to take responsibility for at least actions oif supporting the Taliban. Such intellectuals supported a trend which has then lead to the condition which allowed for the murders of Taseer and Bhatti.Recommend

  • Mar 5, 2011 - 10:52AM

    And what exactly is the author’s opinion about the butchering of tribals at the hands of the taliban? isnt she a bit intrigued about reports that show support for drone strikes among the IDPs? http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/07/100718waziristanvoxes_hussain.shtml

    on the contrary, find me a christian or a liberal who would support the murder of Taseer or Bhatti. and I will find you a thousand bigots who celebrated the death of Taseer. Its amazing how easy it is for some to equate the silence over drone strikes to the celebrations over the death of Taseer.Recommend

  • Usman
    Mar 5, 2011 - 11:30AM

    @ Asif: Cha gai ho yar. good reality check.Recommend

  • Moeed
    Mar 5, 2011 - 11:30AM

    What is ” Strategic Technology Resources”? What does it do?Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Mar 5, 2011 - 12:01PM

    Just read the article to see if she could squeeze in India and US bashing while deweling into this tragic incident. She did it!Recommend

  • Sanam T
    Mar 5, 2011 - 12:01PM

    Next time you feel like writing an article please stick it on a pamphlet and distribute it at a madrassa or print it in your own paper instead as those are the mental midgets who make up your audience. Recommend

  • Wow
    Mar 5, 2011 - 12:14PM

    Why does Pak Parliament pass a resolution against receiving US aid and then do what you want to do ……….object drone attacks ,object IMF recommendations ,object CIA ,…beggars can not be choosers …truth is as you also know that you can not survive 60 days without US aid…. Except it, that is the only truth …..You people talk of principals … what kind of principals you have shown towards your motherland except sucking its blood … ,,Recommend

  • rofl
    Mar 5, 2011 - 12:53PM

    In order to improve the relations with Pakistan , America should issue a visa to Shireen Masari. Recommend

  • Mar 5, 2011 - 1:05PM

    Ms Mazari ,the intellectual giant, does not even begin to address the Lilliputian concerns of Khurram Husain. Mr Husain had proposed, that

    1.North Korea is as obsessed about a global conspiracy against its existence as is Pakistan, and if Pakistan and its intellectuals, led by Ms Mazari, persist with this view perhaps the fate of Pakistan will be the same as North Korea.

    2.USA is not conspiring to get the strategic assets of Pakistan, by engineering piecemeal violence in Pakistan. Had US been intersted in doing so, they would have simply gone ahead and done the needful.So the intellectual giants should stop carrying and propagating this grudge against the US and the West.

    Ms Mazari, being as intellectually honest as she is, skirted the issue by calling Mr Hussain names and taking off in a wholly unrelated direction altogether.

    Being a Lilliputian myself, I am still trying to understand the connection between not signing the FMCT and nuclear stockpiles and ’embracing inclusiveness and knowledge’.Recommend

  • Moeed
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:11PM

    What have the Americans done to Ms Mazari to deserve this outrage? Usually women reserve this kind of vitriol for their Ex’sRecommend

  • Furqan
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:19PM

    Let FATA be declared a new province and Ms Mazari as its first Governor.Recommend

  • KH
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:24PM

    “alleged religious extremists”??? Recommend

  • Arifq
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:32PM

    There is no difference between Shireen mazari and Retired army General hameed Gul, both have the same agenda, slant and slander, confuse the people through slant i.e. start with a condemnation and then drag uncle sam into the debate thus diluting the negatives of their loved religious extremists. Shireen Mazari and Hameed Gul have no qualms in using militancy against Indians, Americans or for that matter all those who Pakistanis oppose their deep agenda, there comes in slander, discredit your opposition. Madam Shireen Mazari and Hameed Gul represent establishments propaganda machinery, plain and simple. Recommend

  • Farrukh Riaz
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:58PM

    Shireen Mazari is a puppet of the military establishment. No Ms. Mazari, we all are not responsible for Shahbaz Bhatti’s death. The military establishment is because it has cultivated those assets and even if America is to be blamed for attacks, let’s not forget all Army Chiefs have toed US line including the present one. She would remain silent on this.Recommend

  • omar yusaf
    Mar 5, 2011 - 1:59PM

    @Rehan: If this is true, then I think Shireen owes an explanation for her decision.Recommend

  • hopeless
    Mar 5, 2011 - 3:01PM

    @ omar yusaf : are u sheereen mazarai disguised as omar yusafRecommend

  • M M Malik
    Mar 5, 2011 - 3:31PM

    Our tolerance to the extreme incitement to violence by our preachers is severely aggravating our ignorance and our intolerance.
    The calls of wajab-ul-qatal and militant jihad; from the pulpit; are routinely tolerated by all.Recommend

  • Shehzad Shah
    Mar 5, 2011 - 3:37PM

    The article is titled ‘a fatal intolerance’ while only a portion of it discusses intolerance. The rest is devoted to proving how the US is a habitual reneger and overall ne’er-do-well. That’s true, but what’s the point? The US is the superpower of the current age, its not a villain in a bollywood opera. Dominant powers throughout history have used and abused, be it the Roman Empire a few thousand years ago or the British Empire a couple of hundred; its pretty much their job description. Doesn’t make it right, but thats the nature of power, its fundamentally amoral. So what is Mazari actually complaining about, that the US should’ve loved and cared for Pakistan like a mother would its child? Fact is, the US’ relationship with Pakistan has been positively benign when compared to how the US has handled (or manhandled) weaker states in its Latin American backyard. If anything, it is those countries that have a very legitimate gripe against the abuse they’ve suffered due to American hegemony. But we don’t see the same kind of febrile anti-Americanism in Chile or Nicaragua. They’ve chosen to focus on their own efforts at nation building, instead of binding themselves into a self-destructive resentment of past wrongs committed by the hegemon. The US’ relationship with Pakistan has always been far more tactical and transient; ‘transactional’ is the byword in Pakistan of course. What I find laughable is how that is flung as an accusation at the Americans; I could name a list of Latin American nations who would’ve been grateful for such blessed indifference. A superpower opens the flood-gates of aid as price for services rendered in pursuit of their regional objectives. As long as they need you for their purpose, they don’t ask too many questions about what exactly you do with their largesse; and thats a bad thing?? What stopped the reptilian Zia regime from using a portion of the dollars flooding in during the eighties for, say, providing universal education? Was it on American orders that they instead used it to created a frankenstein monster of militancy and our sacred basket of ‘bums’? Recommend

  • Ashwin
    Mar 5, 2011 - 4:23PM

    @Sanam T: Mind bowling she must be licking her wounds be careful she might call you a RAW agent.I was kinda suprised to see the article heading when i read the peice she didnt disappoint me.

    Most interesting part of this piece are some of the comments. I would suggest to ET invite some these bright Pakistani to do a piece or two. Recommend

  • ani
    Mar 5, 2011 - 4:29PM

    Surgeon General’s Warning to Smokers: Smoking is injurious to your health and can cause cancer.
    Similar warning should accompany SM’s articles: Reading is insulting to your mind and can cause jihaditis. Recommend

  • harkol
    Mar 5, 2011 - 4:38PM

    Madam Mazari,

    It is amazing that you blame intolerance of Pakistani society on western conspiracies and values!

    Pakistan was born of intolerance, it eliminated its Hindu Minorities down to 1.2% by 1998 (much before 9/11) from what once was about 20%.

    So, how anyone else but Pakistani establishment and Pakistani society responsible?Recommend

  • Nadir El-Edroos
    Mar 5, 2011 - 5:09PM

    Have you no shame? A minister of the state, a member of a minority stood up to the bigots in this country and he was assassinated. You have done your best to spin it in a way to fit the US and India in it by hook or crook. How is nuclear fissile production relevant?

    Westernized elite is silent? Where are you? Why arnt you hand in hand with the Christian protestors who protesting across the country?

    Why dont you ask why the military is silent? Dont blame the people of Pakistan for this intolerance. It was engineered and society manipulated in the name of nationalism and some obscure notion of being the vanguard of jihad against the great infidel.

    Please dont sell yourself or your research at the ISS as some academic pinnacle. Your work is nothing more than propaganda pieces that just happen to vindicate the establishment point of view. Recommend

  • Khalid Rahim
    Mar 5, 2011 - 5:41PM

    Reminds me of the Emperor’s New Clothes, except that the child here can claim; Look, look the
    Empress has no clothes.Recommend

  • Learner
    Mar 5, 2011 - 6:35PM

    The reaction against Ms Mazari in almost all the comments proves her point about the “liberal elite”. Some Indians coming to join the comment party must be having a ball, though, admittedly, they are much less abusive than they are on Hindustan times’ or Chowk’s comment sections regarding anything that has to do with Pakistan. As for the reaction of the exclusivist “liberal elite”, though not unexpected, it is as simplistic as it is unfortunate. Recommend

  • Alizee
    Mar 5, 2011 - 10:09PM

    Well done Ms Mazari!Recommend

  • Veny
    Mar 5, 2011 - 10:28PM

    Even if you stop reading her analytical genius in Daily Nation, the analyst has followed you on Express news. It is one of the best on how to fit in multitude of issues from minority, elite to US, India to Nuclear stockpile in one page article. The concluding sentence is hilarious.Keep it up.Recommend

  • Khochinsky
    Mar 6, 2011 - 12:03AM

    It is saddening how so many people fail to understand what Ms. Mazari wanted to say, and truly depicts political and strategic maturity on their part. I have high regards for her; she was the only journalist/analyst who could recognize the duplicity of American and allied forces in the region especially viz a viz TTP way back. Furthermore, when she reported them and presented the true perspective of affairs on the ground, she was banned from writing in the many dailies she used to write in. From the looks of her, no one could be more westernized then her, especially in appearance, and one would consider her pro-American for granted, but seeing her on shows and reading her columns she is completely the opposite, a true patriotic Pakistani who has the best grasp on our defense issues.

    To all those who look down upon her should look into their own souls and see if they could find sanity and some semblance of honesty. It is easy to pick on anyone on blogs, but i am sure if such people were to face her in person, all would melt out of ignorance and lack of understanding. It takes great leaps of truthfulness and integrity to be what Miss. Mazari represents.

    And Miss Mazari, I hope u read this, please don’t ever be disheartened. We, the youth of Pakistan are with you.

    We are watching!!!Recommend

  • Mar 6, 2011 - 9:19AM

    Lilliputian minds like Khurram Husain’s lack the intellectual acumen or skills to present logic, so they conveniently resort to cheap shots while revealing their ignorance..

    Is there any need to tell that these typical journo wars on ET sound highly silly?Recommend

  • Mar 6, 2011 - 10:35AM

    Sandy, Ms. Mazari is a graduate of LSE and has not only been teaching at the National Defence University in Islamabad for the past two decades but has also supervised theses of many students who turned out to be great strategists today, one of which is the current MI chief, Naushad Kayani. I would humbly suggest you shut up before discrediting the other person’s abilities and present your own credentials. I assume you’re some self-professed “analyst” who blogs on some nonsensical forum all day to prove her point and get away with it. If you have no knowledge of geopolitics and defence, then silence should be your yardstick.Recommend

  • Ali
    Mar 6, 2011 - 1:29PM

    we take loans and financial aid, how can we talk about ghariat!! ghariat is something else..Recommend

  • Jeddy
    Mar 6, 2011 - 1:29PM

    The more Pakistan develops its weapons and diversifies them – the more nuclear weapons we have – creates problems for countries which want to run over Pakistan – the way Iraq was. Iraq was crushed and destroyed. Its people rounded up executed and tortured. Some people prefer to live in slavery than be free. The countries which hate Pakistan will do everything to ruin the morale of the Pakistanis. When the invasion comes, we fight as a nation, we fight as one. Those who are not ready for a fight should keep their airline tickets ready and exit like rats. But where they go they should know a nuclear missile will be tailing them.Recommend

  • vasan
    Mar 6, 2011 - 5:33PM

    “creates problems for countries which want to run over Pakistan ”
    This imaginary job of somebody trying to run over Pakistan is being done by Pakistan itself and is being done better than anybody else can. Can u smell the coffeeRecommend

  • EQ
    Mar 6, 2011 - 8:32PM

    “alleged religious extremists”???? of course, there is no religious extremism in Pakistan, only American and Indian planted notions… what’s scary is the growing market in Pakistan for this kind of denial. Its not easy to admit that we have a problem, and it is home grown, and that we must tackle it if we want to survive. Else just hunker down with Jeddy up there!Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Mar 7, 2011 - 8:51AM

    @Sultan Hijazi:
    Is she the best you have? It is a disjointed article from a confused mind.Recommend

  • observer
    Mar 7, 2011 - 10:11AM

    @Sultan Hijazi

    Disclaimer- I believe ideas should be debated independent of the pedigree of the proponent but as pedigree is offered as the only defence of these ideas, there is little chice. So here goes.

    Ms. Mazari is a graduate of LSE

    To the best of my knowledge LSE has not invented a vaccine innoculating its students against bigotry and hate. Come to think of it Omar Saeed Sheikh, convicted in Daniel Pearl murder case had some cnnection with LSE. So there.

    many students who turned out to be great strategists today, one of which is the current MI chief,

    Wasn’t MI involved in disappearance and reappearance of about a dozen inmates of Adiala jail recently.Were these guys part of some strategic assets being handled by other super strategists?

    . If you have no knowledge of geopolitics and defence,

    Ms Mazari penned a book about the ‘Truth’ of Kargil with the ‘help and support’ of President Musharraf, justifying Kargil and portraying it as a great military success.I do not know how many ‘strategic analysts’ of geopolitics and defence in Pakistan and outside agree with her.Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Mar 7, 2011 - 11:00AM

    @Sultan Hijazi:
    Is this the best she could offer?Recommend

  • Majoom
    Mar 7, 2011 - 12:21PM

    Shireen has correctly pointed out that the entire nation has to accept the shame and bear responsibility letting TTP (Tehrik to Terrorize Pakistan) kill reform minded leaders of Pakistan. Bhatti and Taseer’s murder will always remain added to out list of national shame.
    Her swipe at the Western educated and fed elite is apt too – because they go overboard in appeasing the West. In fact, we must see the debate within West about their governments’ myopic policies that are an outcome of their short term politico-economic interests and have nothing to do with international moralities. Their visible bias in granting India a civil nuclear energy deal and relaxing nuclear suppliers group sanctions on India is a case in point.
    The point is that Pakistani sentiment gets no hearing in international media dominated by the West’s military industrial and Indian dominated press. I am amazed at the vitriolic generated by Pakistanis themselves over Shireen’s showing of mirror to the West. Is not media free and don’t we have freedom for expression? So let Shireen say what she has to and bring up as cogent arguments, as she did to prove your points.
    Let’s for an instant defend our motherland unless we were born here but have different nationalities. I heard her claim in a seminar once that she owes no favours to the West because she paid her bills for education. Is that true? Then we must check the critics’ credentials for their source of funding. Recommend

  • MK
    Mar 7, 2011 - 12:25PM

    Ms. Mazari’s article is bold article that clearly points out the dichotomies of our society and the western society too. We talk a lot of idealism but actually go for what the ‘pay master’ has to say – leaving our intellectual sovereignty compromised. I wish we in Pakistan were half as men as she is defending the intellectual and political frontiers of Pakistan.
    In fact, I am amused by her linkage between Mr. Bhatti’s murder and her shifting of the debate to nuclear politics. There are very few people who can see the big picture as clearly. Three cheers for Shireen Mazari sahiba.Recommend

  • MK
    Mar 7, 2011 - 12:27PM

    Ms. Mazari’s article is bold article that clearly points out the dichotomies of our society and the western society too. We talk a lot of idealism but actually go for what the ‘pay master’ has to say – leaving our intellectual sovereignty compromised. I wish we in Pakistan were half as men as she is defending the intellectual and political frontiers of Pakistan.
    In fact, I am amused by her linkage between Mr. Bhatti’s murder and her shifting of the debate to nuclear politics. There are very few people who can see the big picture as clearly. Three cheers Shireen Mazari sahiba. Recommend

  • Kamal
    Mar 7, 2011 - 12:36PM

    Ms. Mazari’s article is bold article that clearly points out the dichotomies of our society and the western society too. We talk a lot of idealism but actually go for what the ‘pay master’ has to say – leaving our intellectual sovereignty compromised. I wish we in Pakistan were half as men as she is defending the intellectual and political frontiers of Pakistan.
    In fact, I am amused by her linkage between Mr. Bhatti’s murder and her shifting of the debate to nuclear politics. There are very few people who can see the big picture as clearly. Three cheers. Recommend

  • Atia
    Mar 7, 2011 - 12:45PM

    Ms. Mazari could have written two articles instead of combining two issues of Bhatti’s ghastly murder and American double standards over nuclear issues. But her linkage of the two issues is acceptable. Her’s are the few analyses that show us the third side the coin. Very informative. I wish she writes more and keeps us well informed through the Tribune as the other papers are monosyllable.Recommend

  • S. Asghar
    Mar 7, 2011 - 12:46PM

    Well written Shireen Mizari. Recommend

  • isreali interceptor missile endo exo atmosphere
    Mar 7, 2011 - 12:58PM

    **why india won match from ireland is because of exprience ,they won toos and fileded

    ireland fielding was great and great talent but the exprience also counts

    pak has exprience that religious madrassas preaches intolerance still not close itRecommend

  • Tony Singh
    Mar 7, 2011 - 1:07PM

    @MK:
    It is not abig picture she is trying to potray, but somehow drag India and America, the two countries she loves bashing, into the discourse which has nothing to do with the two countries. In fact there is not an article written which does not have Indiabashing. She has made her career out of it.Recommend

  • observer
    Mar 7, 2011 - 3:25PM

    @MK @Kamal

    Word for word the same post. Coincidence? or ISPR with multiple pen names?Recommend

  • Truthseeker
    Mar 7, 2011 - 10:06PM

    Lot of amusement stuff for the author in these comments. It should be enough for the rest of her life.May God give her long and healthy life with ‘Brobdingnagian’ wisdom.Recommend

  • Babloo
    Mar 8, 2011 - 2:37AM

    Most Pakistanis who have commented on this blog have a far better understanding of the situation in Pakistan than professional propogandists/analysts like Shireen Mazari. Now thats the problem.Recommend

  • Imran Khan
    Mar 8, 2011 - 3:24AM

    I think this was a brilliant analysis! Mazari you can be PTI President after I’m done with it :)Recommend

  • Al!Khan
    Mar 19, 2011 - 1:17AM

    Dr Shireen it’s always a pleasure to read your articles. Wish we had more educated and patriotic people like you. It’s a shame that our media is suffocating your sane voice for the sake of dollars. But we know they can’t hide the truth for long. Keep it up!Recommend

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