Maulana Sherani, Ashrafi fight it out over 'Ahmadi issue' at CII meeting

Published: December 29, 2015
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CII Chairman Maulana Muhammad Khan Shirani. PHOTO: PID

CII Chairman Maulana Muhammad Khan Shirani. PHOTO: PID

A meeting of the Council for Islamic Ideology (CII) turned violent on Tuesday as a scuffle broke out between council chairman Maulana Mohammad Khan Sherani and Maulana Tahir Ashrafi.

According to Express News, participants of the meeting were discussing the status of Ahmadis under the Constitution when Ashrafi and Sherani entered into an argument that turned personal and violent.

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As the two argued, Ashrafi lunged at Sherani and grabbed him by his collar as the latter called him ‘an alcoholic.’ Participants in the meeting had to intervene to diffuse the situation.

Addressing the media after the scuffle, Maulana Ashrafi questioned, “The matter pertaining to Ahmadis is already present in the Constitution so why is he touching on this topic again?”

“I thought the discussion was over but then he came up to me and grabbed me by the collar,” Ashrafi further said. Defending his stance, the Pakistan Ulema Council chairman upheld, “Regardless of any person being a non-Muslim, it is clearly stated in the Constitution and in Islam that violence against such persons will not be tolerated.”

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“Maulana Sherani has many questions to answer. He needs to explain why it is okay for him to grab someone by the collar as we observed today,” he added.

The CII is a constitutional body that advises the legislature whether or not a certain law is repugnant to Islam, in particular to the Quran and Sunna. According to Maulana Ashrafi, the topic of Ahmadis was not on today’s agenda of the meeting; however, Maulana Sherani brought it up leading to a scuffle.

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Reader Comments (33)

  • ishrat salim
    Dec 29, 2015 - 2:36PM

    Moulana Ashrafi was rightly called an ” alcoholic “, he is & it is not deniable & the whole world is witness to his actions on a number of occasion. The truth is bitter & we should be ashamed to make Mr Tahirul Ashrafi part of CII. It is shameful on our part that he continues to be part of CII because we the members of civil society or the literate class has not once protested against his presence. How can he be called a Muslim when he gets drunk & comes on media in a drunken state ? And we find him in media time & again. Are we not then accomplice to back up & patronize Moulana Ashrafi ? In what state are we going to stand up in front of Allah swt ?

    2) what is the use of this CII, when till today not 1 recommendation has been incorporated in our constitution ? This is a waste of tax payers money & should be closed down.Recommend

  • jonaid
    Dec 29, 2015 - 2:38PM

    For the safe side and before commenting or any feedback, please provide us the Alcoholic test of Ashrafi.Recommend

  • Asad Shairani
    Dec 29, 2015 - 2:54PM

    Most interesting news to ever come out of these CII meetings.Recommend

  • Mehreen
    Dec 29, 2015 - 3:01PM

    This is the reason of demise of Muslims around the World. The Scholars are too busy to determine that who is a Muslim and who is not. So they do not have anytime to discuss on any other issue.
    Also Maulan Ashrafi has no right to tell anyone that some topic cannot be discussed. This is the way of coward attitude that you are too afraid to talk on such issue. When your stance is weaker against somebody then usually such kind of attitude is shown.Recommend

  • Haji Atiya
    Dec 29, 2015 - 3:21PM

    @jonaid:
    Even with evidence before you, you wouldn’t believe it and just put it down to a hidden conspiracy. That said, these characters serve no useful purpose other than having amusing punchups now and then.Recommend

  • Ghostrider
    Dec 29, 2015 - 3:31PM

    It was rightly said by Iqbal…Deen-e-mullah-fee-sabeelilah-fisadRecommend

  • Another Pakistani
    Dec 29, 2015 - 3:38PM

    I support Maulana Ashrafi on Ahmedi issueRecommend

  • FAZ
    Dec 29, 2015 - 3:53PM

    @ishrat salim:
    @jonaid:
    It was just the cough syrup :pRecommend

  • Nasir
    Dec 29, 2015 - 4:08PM

    How dare these savages try to tell us who is a Muslim and who is not – they have no right to do so – let Allah decide Recommend

  • SALEEM
    Dec 29, 2015 - 4:12PM

    We should disband this Ideology and change the constitution to make pakistan a secular Republic .
    \Recommend

  • Zia
    Dec 29, 2015 - 4:14PM

    hahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Koi hasish bhi peeta ho ga CII me os kea kya jaya?Recommend

  • Tahir Naveed
    Dec 29, 2015 - 4:20PM

    This is high time that we
    should suggest education reforms for our religious appointments also.As in Turkey the Imams should possess a master degree in humanities. This gives them clear outlook that is happening around the globe.Otherwise these will remain engaged in trivial matters.Who is Muslim and who is not ,let’s leave it to Allaha alone. Recommend

  • M M Malik
    Dec 29, 2015 - 4:26PM

    Allah is the sole judge of who is a Muslim and who is not.Recommend

  • Malangi
    Dec 29, 2015 - 4:33PM

    What should we call it YAHOODI Lobby YA Amreeki Saazish….?Recommend

  • Overseas Pakistani
    Dec 29, 2015 - 5:06PM

    @Another Pakistani: I support Donal Trump on stopping people like you traveling to the USA and inshallah any other western country Recommend

  • Amir
    Dec 29, 2015 - 5:10PM

    Burp!
    What’s next on the agendaRecommend

  • Iqra shafiq
    Dec 29, 2015 - 6:03PM

    @ishrat salim:
    totally agree with uRecommend

  • abunoor
    Dec 29, 2015 - 6:14PM

    Both are Indian agents and r doing this to sabotage Islam in PakistanRecommend

  • Shah
    Dec 29, 2015 - 6:27PM

    It is beyond comprehension to bear some clerics discussing constitutional matters who do not even know the a.b.c of it. In the almost 2016, people are expected to discuss human rights and equality of mankind instead these douchebags are joining head to create a further divide in society. And the state! It seems like a handicapped who could not speak, talk and even move on its own. The wigged (no offence) interior minister says that the state has no case against the infamous burqa Mulla, who appreciates the killing of 150 innocent school children and even invites daesh launch Khilafat in Pakistan. Religion belongs to individuals, and the state belongs to all citizens. The longer Pakistan, a state in the state of doldrums, would remain too shy from taking down mullahs and their vested interested the nation is far from sighting any active development, at least, a century from now. The inability of the state to handle religion and its excessive indulgence in political matters sets the alarm bells ringing. OR may be; the state is purposefully curving a storm that will blow everything with it. Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Dec 29, 2015 - 6:28PM

    Is no one else annoyed at how badly written this article is,they’ve constantly jumbled up the names for the two mullasRecommend

  • Mohammad Islam Ahmadi
    Dec 29, 2015 - 8:25PM

    @Another Pakistani:

    What’s in a name? that which we call a rose
    By any other name would smell as sweet;Recommend

  • Parvez
    Dec 29, 2015 - 11:57PM

    Excellent time to shut the CII down…….. it does more harm than good, as intended by Zia wen he set it up.Recommend

  • Allah Rukha
    Dec 30, 2015 - 12:17AM

    There is no use of CII especially when it is led by political religious personalities. Of course this is a fantastic platform to use religion for political gains.
    This useless institution along with Moon Sighting committee must be abolished. Recommend

  • Dec 30, 2015 - 3:54AM

    Islam is the religion of peace but our so-called Islamic leaders are defaming it by fighting each other. As for as Ahmadiyya issue is concern, it’s only the pocket to take a safe side as nobody dares to stands with them. These Maulanas are also having antagonism each other to get their interests. If they were true well wisher of Islam they had never expose off like that…. how long it will take to assure the world that Muslims are not extremists and short tempered terrorists.?Recommend

  • Kolsat
    Dec 30, 2015 - 4:36AM

    @Asad Shairani: Also if such things happen at this council then the question is who appointed them and should these people sit on such an important body.Recommend

  • Ahsan
    Dec 30, 2015 - 4:46AM

    In my opinion the ruet-e-halal committee and the CII should be abolished, these clowns enjoy government perks to do what exactly sight the moon or create unnecessary rifts. Use the money spent on these clowns for something productive!Recommend

  • MSH
    Dec 30, 2015 - 6:03AM

    There is nothing new about these Mullahs.How Could they advise the government on religious matters when they do not even offer prayer after each other.Besides Molana Shirani is a politically appointed person from Mullah Fazlur Rehman Party by Zardari. Recommend

  • Farhan
    Dec 30, 2015 - 7:42AM

    Isn’t Mulla Shirani that same guy who wanted to legalize marriage of minor girls?Recommend

  • M.M.
    Dec 30, 2015 - 9:05AM

    In this day and age, two JAHIL Mullas discussing who is Muslim and who is not ! ! Mullas are JAHIL alright. But their followers are even more JAHIL who put them on pedestal.Recommend

  • M.M.
    Dec 30, 2015 - 9:09AM

    Two JAHIL Mullas ! Their followers are even more JAHIL for following them.Recommend

  • Dec 30, 2015 - 10:33AM

    @Malangi:
    Chief Saab this is not about “yahoodi” or “Amreeki” saazish. It is all about pondering a settled issue of Ahmadis. If their status is rightly settled under constitution of Pakistan then why Maulana Mohammad Khan Sherani was so interested to discuss about it during routine meeting of CII? Recommend

  • Shiv
    Dec 30, 2015 - 3:37PM

    In India, CII stands for Confederation of Indian Industry. In Pakistan, it is Council for Islamic Ideology. Recommend

  • bajwa
    Dec 30, 2015 - 10:01PM

    True God fearing people do not behave like these hypocrites. Recommend

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