Pasha was fearful of a Taliban takeover in post-Nato Afghanistan: Report

Published: March 21, 2012

Ahmad Shuja Pasha’s often controversial tenure as spy chief ends. PHOTO: FILE

ISLAMABAD: While many analysts believe that the powerful military and its intelligence wing have been playing a double game with the US in Afghanistan to see the Taliban return to power post an acrimonious US exit, Pakistan’s retired Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) chief wanted a diametrically opposite world.

The Telegraph reported on Wednesday quoted a meeting of then DG ISI Lt Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha with a Stratfor researcher, the details of which were leaked by Wikileaks along with hundreds of emails.

The researcher wrote that Pasha was fearful of a Taliban takeover in Afghanistan, that it would mean dangerous implications for Pakistan’s security.

“We do not wish to see the Talibs dominate Afghanistan,” Pasha was quoted as saying. “On the contrary, we want to see a broad-based government that can end the civil war in that country, which has had a disastrous fallout for us.”

However, Pasha maintained that any future government in Afghanistan must also feature the Taliban. “Of course the Talibs will be a key player in a post-Nato Afghanistan, which we feel necessary for true peace to take place.”

While the US has expressed its frustration with Pakistan’s delay in taking military action against militants holed up in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan, the recently retired spy chief said there were pre-requisites to any offensive in North Waziristan. “The only way an offensive in NW is through South Waziristan, which we are trying to stabilise with the building of roads and resettlement of locals,” he said.

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Reader Comments (43)

  • Bhindian
    Mar 21, 2012 - 11:25PM

    This won’t help paranoid Americans who still think ISI is supporting Taliban. US has become like India, no matter what you do you just cannot stop them from having nightmares about ISI.

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  • Falcon
    Mar 21, 2012 - 11:42PM

    Very interesting. That is certainly encouraging if what was meant is the same as what is actually being worked on.

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  • Mar 21, 2012 - 11:44PM

    ET loves to quote and give reference of propaganda machine reports, ET dont u think it is better to get the real information and to rely on ur own resources within Pakistan, why do u always need to refer and rely to western propaganda machines??

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  • Balochi liberal
    Mar 21, 2012 - 11:47PM

    @Pakistan politics: Because truth is not even a remote possibility to be found in Pakistani resources ? Whom do you want ET to approach to ? Zaid Hamid ? or Hafeez Saeed ?

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  • Mar 21, 2012 - 11:58PM

    @Balochi liberal:
    I remember when ET published news when there were speculations of Giving pasha more extension ET said: “Pasha will prefer golfing” and that report later on came true and the source was Pakistani not American, oh but i but admire the authenticity of American media reports about Iraq, (WMD’s do u still remember the name, r u still looking for them ??) i feel pity on those who believe in sky, fox, guardian, nyt, cnn, sun, bbc reporting.Recommend

  • biryani
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:04AM

    true american by heart, soul and body…..

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  • faraz
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:06AM

    @Pakistan politics

    It hurts when long held believes are shattered by changing realities.

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  • Basit
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:06AM

    Liberals are now in a quandary. They are programmed to believe in Western sources, but still hate ISI and Pak Army. How will they spin this?

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  • MarkH
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:14AM

    This is one of those things that fall under the category of “if you’re really against it, show it by saying it where your people and the world can hear it.” That’s no top secret information. Had it been said out loud, there would have been less negative publicity. If you say it and your people can hear it, along with the Taliban itself, it’s a sort of non-official implied policy that would be picked up by others.
    That’s if he meant it. Which is up in the air due to the after-effects of constantly lying about other things.

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  • OBSERVER
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:24AM

    @Pakistan politics
    I always see u complaining about ET regarding reports,facts and figures..!! Then why are u still reading it..strange!!

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  • pakistanibaloch
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:30AM

    @Balochi liberal:
    oye howe fake indian balochs are now starting to comment.so where should we (real baloch )go ??Recommend

  • pakistanibaloch
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:31AM

    @Balochi liberal:
    *hafiz saeed zindabad *

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  • Naeem
    Mar 22, 2012 - 12:36AM

    First they were bashing Pasha and now they are saying, hold on he actually meant well! Our brainless media! I always liked Pasha,he was was a cool headed,clever and professional soldier! We should use him for the betterment of Pakistan’s defence.

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  • Cautious
    Mar 22, 2012 - 1:16AM

    Must be the only photo of Pahsa that ET has — time to find something new.

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  • Babloo
    Mar 22, 2012 - 1:24AM

    So Mr Pasha wants Afghan Taleban to play a “Key Role” in Afghanaistan government. Then why should not Pakistan Taleban ( TTP ) not play a key role in Pakistan government ?

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  • wahab khan afridi
    Mar 22, 2012 - 1:42AM

    the only possibility to bring peace is by getting all stake holders get out of Afghanistan and let them decide about the future. how on earth can u bring peace if majority of aghans which is pashtoons are out of assembly and whole world is backing the northern alliance which is enemy of pashtoons and talibans are frm pashtoon areas. pashtoons never surrender, revenge is in their blood either afghanistan or pakistan. the only way is by arranging tribal elders who can sit and make peace agreement and it shud be facilitated by whole world including pakistan, US, Iran, Russia, India and Nato. nobody shud use their influence that agreement shud become a constitution and for sure every body will follow that

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  • Mar 22, 2012 - 1:42AM

    @Naeem:
    hypocrisy isn’t it?

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  • Babloo
    Mar 22, 2012 - 1:46AM

    Just as Afghan Taleban is fighting to play a “key role” in Afghanistan government, so is TTP fighting to play a key role in Pakistan government. Whats good for Afghanistan must be good for Pakistan too. What does Mr Pasha, who supports “key role” for Taleban in Afghanistan say ? And who is going to define what the “key role” means ?

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  • Mar 22, 2012 - 1:46AM

    @OBSERVER:
    Somebody has to show the mirror to them

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  • Majid Urrehman
    Mar 22, 2012 - 2:06AM

    I so love this comment by Bhindian, “US has become like India”.

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  • jibran
    Mar 22, 2012 - 2:45AM

    Good riddance… I’m glad this corrupt official is gone.

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  • true_blue_pakistaani
    Mar 22, 2012 - 3:17AM

    Pasha lied always, ISPR the same. Don’t trust what they say

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  • Amjad
    Mar 22, 2012 - 3:19AM

    @Babloo: Perhaps you don’t know that the Pakistani Taleban do not enjoy broad based support. In fact most people in Pakistan loath them whereas in Afghanistan a large number of people in Southern and rural Afghanistan support the Afghani Taleban. Afghanistan should be represented by its people and whoever they vote for and so too for Pakistan. Religious parties never get more than a small fraction of the vote in Pakistan. That is the difference.

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  • blithe
    Mar 22, 2012 - 3:27AM

    When asked about the retirement of ISI chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha, Nisar remarked in an ironic way that an ‘Inqalabi’ (revolutionary) party has been orphaned after his retirement.

    bye bye Pasha

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  • j. von hettlingen
    Mar 22, 2012 - 3:44AM

    Maybe Pasha didn’t know his staff well enough! Maybe some of his subordinates did train and support the Taliban without his knowing.

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  • usmanx
    Mar 22, 2012 - 5:35AM

    cautious, i heard TOI has more. why don’t you check it out.

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  • Mirza
    Mar 22, 2012 - 6:53AM

    All praise to almighty ISI they can do no wrong. Every good rumor about them is authentic and every bad news is mere rumor for them. The generals have been intellectuals and expert philosophers, psychologists, political sciences, and International affairs. That is the reason they hate fighting and prefer their homes, cars and clubs.

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  • American Desi
    Mar 22, 2012 - 7:08AM

    @Bhindian: Not yet. That’s the day when Pakistan starts collecting ransom from India!

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  • Mar 22, 2012 - 8:18AM

    I think he was being disingenuous.

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  • Bilafond
    Mar 22, 2012 - 10:26AM

    We are all confused. It will grow as time passes. The other side of fence always gives another view, we will see more.

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    Mar 22, 2012 - 10:41AM

    Fearful or hopeful?

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  • ashok
    Mar 22, 2012 - 11:13AM

    It is like ISI pulling wool all over the body rather than just over the eyes of the entire civilized world.

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  • Noran danish
    Mar 22, 2012 - 11:20AM

    @writers the isi raw mossad and cia were working togather to islamise world, they have created islams qaediani shia and sunni to grind their axe. And to make and break taliban. Just to promote their interests to avail higher budgets of their respective nations. Where as there is not concept of such factions neither by the holy book nor by the virtue of basic islamic teaching. Every agency is playing well and isi was rogue.
    By throwing whole pakistan into fire by ayoub yahia zia and mushi came to confirm that fake theories of factions in the name of islam. In league with molvi and elama and . . .Recommend

  • Owais Ehsan
    Mar 22, 2012 - 11:35AM

    @Babloo:
    “So Mr Pasha wants Afghan Taleban to play a “Key Role” in Afghanaistan government. Then why should not Pakistan Taleban ( TTP ) not play a key role in Pakistan government ?”

    Because Taleban (Mostly Pashtuns) are in majority in Afganistan having minimal represenation in current setup. While US and Nato itself is having meetings with them.

    They are handful in Pakistan. Hence you are argument has no basis.

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  • Noor M
    Mar 22, 2012 - 11:41AM

    A very mature & realistic thinking!

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  • huzaifa
    Mar 22, 2012 - 1:51PM

    Some how the other i still wonder where are the real Leaders of Pakistan. Can some body tell me who is steering this ship (Pakistan) at high seas in a typhoon. If you shout this question in wilderness , a echo comes back ” NO BODY AT helm”. Isn’t it Horrific….???? No loyal leaders, no courageous Generals, No up right and honest bureaucrats, over and above illiterate and rowdy people who don’t know how to select their leaders. Strangely!!!!! in the end i found out, i am to be blamed… HA, HA, HA.Recommend

  • Noran danish
    Mar 22, 2012 - 4:02PM

    His only pain is that why obl was raided. Pasha deemed it his failure. He was of the fear that what if talib could not succeed in af pk. His team wished and had been promoting pure sunni religion. Typically pakistan is calm from the day he quit. Every policy make had knowlede that country ll be safe when he is out of office. Thanks god that now country is a bit safe. Now a real progress is ahead. Behaviour is getting a positive modifications. All this ultimately will toward revaluation of national coine?Recommend

  • Zalmai
    Mar 22, 2012 - 7:27PM

    @Owahis Ehsan

    Pashtuns are very well represented in the current set up for your information. Let me present the Pashtun ministers and influential people for you: Hamid Karzai, Rahim Wardak, Zalmai Rassoul, Omar Zakhilwal, Sher Mohammad Karimi, Rahmatullah Nabil, Abdul Hadi Arghandiwal, Ghulam Farooq Wardak, Anwar Ul Haq Ahadi, Mohammad Yousuf Niyazi, Jarullah Mansoori, Amirzai Sangin, Arsala Jamal and Abdul Rahim to name a few. Pashtuns are dominating this current government, but these are not the Pashtuns that Pakistan would like to see in power. Get it right my friend. You know nothing about Afghanistan. Consult a patriotic Afghan before you spew your narrative.

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  • zaid hamid
    Mar 22, 2012 - 9:34PM

    @Pakistan politics:
    im appointing you as my successor. keep it up my son. you hav a bright future

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  • Babloo
    Mar 22, 2012 - 11:34PM

    Yes Pushtoons are very well representated in Afghan government, beginning with Mr Karzai the president. What Pakistan wants is the Pushtoons that Pakistan supports .. that means Afghan Taleban. Then what did Taleban Pakistan do wrong ?

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  • let there be peace
    Mar 23, 2012 - 12:27AM

    am I supposed to believe the chief of one of the most dreaded secret service agency was telling their deepest secrets in an interview to some ‘researcher’ ?
    what a pathetic piece of propaganda.

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  • usmanx
    Mar 23, 2012 - 3:42AM

    anything related to pak puts these guys in a tizzy..

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  • jahandad
    Mar 24, 2012 - 2:37AM

    the only and i say it again the only victims of the wars of this decades are pushtoons , being killed on all sides , their economy in ruines ,their health system destroyed , all are in poverty bcz of theses wars,no education , no security , and who is to blame,,,, pushtoons are the most brave ppl in the world , no one can be compared near to them in manners, honour , dignity, man of words, truth loving, respect, and above all self made ppl, with no hopes of help from greed loving ,human beings ,,,,,,,,,…,,,…,and this is their fault,,,Recommend

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