The Veena Malik brouhaha

Veena Malik is beautiful and gorgeous! Veena, if the beardos don’t like you move to India. You are brave(i know the beardos who like young boys,will tell you you are ……blah…blah…blah..) BTW i am a proud indian muslim, one of the greatest religion in world!

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Dear Sir,

I read of an incident where one of the non-Muslim minority sects in Iraq decided to punish a young girl, 17-18 years, to death by stoning for expressing the desire to her parents to MARRY a young man not from that sect. What horrified me was that the young girl knelt in total, helpless acquiescence on the appointed day while people, apparently all male, with impunity stoned her to death. I have seen and experienced much death and violence in my life, having been present at the birth of Bangladesh; I am no stranger to wanton evil. However, even I was shaken to the core by the absolute evil of this entire proceeding, the fact that no one had the power to protest or have any voice in the matter.

Recently, in Bangladesh, a 14 year old girl was forcibly raped by her 30 year old neighbor. You can refer to the Daily Star, Dhaka, for details. The village committee sentenced the girl to 100 lashes, but she died after only 80! Such mentality and absolute extra-judicial authority seem unbelievable in the 21st century, but cases repeat all over South Asia with regularity. The tragedy is that rulers, whether democracies or dictatorships, secular or theocrats, seem equally afraid of those who behave in this manner, usurping the power that belongs only to rulers. That alone should engage the self-interest of the administration, since naked power is the only currency they can recognize.

Therefore, the larger issue of allowing women control over their bodies is the necessary and sufficient condition for all rulers [male or female] to ensure their power base and the exchange of naked power so valued by them. Savagely making an example the perpetrators who harm women will actually win them much more of what they need and desire, POWER. They are terminally foolish not to heed the adage, THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE RULES THE WORLD.Recommend

STOP COMPARING HER WITH THAT EGYPTIAN BLOGGER!. You are misleading people.

Mona Eltahawy was protesting against revolutionary guards molesting women. One can disagree with her method of protest but the argument that a woman is the ‘sum of what she wears’ is applicable in her case, NOT here. What exactly does appearing scantily clad (or nude) in a magazine that exists for the sole purpose to titillate…supposed to prove?

In fact by doing so you actually DO castigate women as mere objects.

And please for the love of GOD, enough with the women are to be kept cloaked nonsense. In a country where women have risen to positions of importance supporting the notion that you must lose your clothes to be ‘liberated’ is an insult to the countless number women who have given a lot to this country and society (Ruth Pfau, Hina Jillani, Asma Jahangir, Bilquis Eidhi) in terms of social work and art( Bushra Ansari, Nayyara Noor, Reshma, Abida Parveen, Parveen Shakir, Fatima Surayya Bajia etc etc).

Yes there are 1 million problems women face in this country, but ignoring them and supporting nonsense will get you no where.

And Yes its Veena Maliks choice to do what she wants. But I for one do not agree or support her just because she makes the Mullahs mad.

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indian peoples and indian army frightened of ISI so uses the name on such manner.Recommend

In democracy, rules are made by majority not minority

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If one is ready to strip someone, he or she has to close his eyes and create a picture of the person he/she wanted to strip. Can’t we imagine what lies behind our cloths. What Veena did to her is her own choice. She doesn’t seem to be vulgar even in that ‘nude’ picture, which the ET has tried to paint with black colour. Our minds may think otherwise. We may think in most vulgar way and obscenity if we want to do so. Let others have a choice to what they want to do.

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If we are muslims, then Quran is crystal clear about Hudood (limits) and crossing those will suggest that you are no more in the boundaries of religion. Following others for the sake of publicity or otherwise, is really harmful for a nation. If we really beleive in Islam, then Quran directed us to jail such individuals for life for crossing limits of decency. Any one who dare to deny the absolute law of Quran should do that at his/her own risk. We are very weak and should ask for apology and forgiveness from Allah. Pakistan is under extra ordinary attack from all fronts. May Allah save us from evil deeds.

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Those who are crowing against VM do not know how far Pakistani “girls” have progressed. If they access any porn web site they would see much, much, more than VM’s picture reveals. Their right to do whatever they wish with their bodies must be preserved unless we are to sign up with the obscurantists.

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A tolerant society should not mean that standards of decency, dignity or even tolerance are thrown out the window. Getting into liberal semantics over what constitutes vulgarity is a pointless exercise. Whether or not Veena has posed for this shoot, these pictures are an affront to all majority-minority views in Pakistan. We are not that country where such things happen. Take the pictures off, to save her life now.

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But, this editorial assumes Pakistan is a tolerant society!! It isn’t. It has cleansed away its hindus and continues to push away folks of other religions. Folks who speak out against Blasphemy law are murdered.

The only option Veena Malik now has is to take asylum in India or some other country. She runs the real danger of being targeted in Pakistan by someone who is overcome by the culture of religiosity that seems to have taken hold of a sizable population of Pakistan.

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Our society (m eliminating mullahs for a time from our society) is not that much secular that i allows this type of freedom. The religion has not only initiated religious values, bt rather our cultural and social values also don t allow such type of stories and pictures to be in public. I don t think so that none of you would be comfortable to see news and picture with your whole family.
If any sort of girl around you is exposed like this (not only in magzine bt in any other this sort of bare action or other), people start to behave differently before and after. It means that not only mullahs, bt the vast vast majority of pakistan still feels it a shameful act. it has nothing to do with extremisim if you object such actions of v.m.
freedom to do wat ever you want to do is justified till the time if you are not hurting anyone. But if you are hurting the sentiments of so many people than there is no place for such freedom atleast in this country. Yeah if you wanna go to india and continue than most welcome.
Doing such actions will give an impression that this is the trend in pakistan that girls here get such shoots generally; which is not the case actually. and i think that none of us want to bring the image of pakistan (if not taliban) than also not that we have gone soo soo much liberal and naked. it will give birth to so many other thoughts in the mind of people of other countries that you can t imagine

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I’m sorry. Posing naked in the media is not something even the liberal minded would allow their women to do. Would you support your daughter or wife to strip away her clothes? Why support Veena?

These are cheap tactics. It was fine till Big Boss, cuz that is something that is going on in our societies, opposite genders mingling in schools, etc, but nudity is not something that has been accepted nor should the media push the public to accept it. The picture on ET the first day that showed her upper should not have been allowed. You are associated with an international newspaper for God’s sake. Instead you (ET) like Veena try to up your game by cheap tactics. Luring in youngsters who will be attracted to you at first but will never take you seriously.

As for Veena, I would appreciate the media not making a fuss about it. Let her live her life the way she wants. No need to promote vulgarity in the society. This is a Muslim majority country; it would be best for everyone to respect the wishes of the majority.

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Go Veena go and bring back Pakistan of pre partition days when it was the most advance place even better than Bomabay.

Go veena go.

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Anyone who feels unsafe in any country is welcome to India as long as they contribute in some way for the development of the country!! And please do some charity! Like VM has adopted a little boy!! Please help the poor and needy!Recommend

Please, keep the Kardashian mentality out of Pakistan. Veena Malik just wants to be famous for being famous. Her images are neither social commentary nor a cry of the oppressed. India is accumulating it’s own brand of famous for nothing people and I hope they have room for one more.

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For all those supporting veena malik, let me remind them that she is a Muslim and as a Muslim women, she has to preserve her modesty. These so called liberals have become so extremist that they will condemned each and every thing that comes from Mullahs, no matter it is right or wrong. It is time we follow the Islamic Injunctions, only then we would be able to clear the mess we are into.

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There is a difference b/w freedom and ‘behgairati’!

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Totally AGREE !!!! =D

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Big Hand Behind Veen Malik or yet it,s Real as shown in snap.

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Yes, it is the essence of a tolerant society. But Pakistan is not one lol. Plus, it’s not just people in Pakistan that can react like this to such a stunt, there are other places too a cheap move like this would get people talking. Obviously, she shouldn’t be punished etc like some people will probably want to do, because that’s not for any of us to decide, but this is not about women being cloaked or any such rubbish. It’s just a cheap shot at getting publicity, nothing more. Women aren’t going to benefit in any way by her posing naked, because women don’t want the kind of “freedom” she seems to be espousing. Also, she’s playing right into the hands of a male dominated industry and society, albeit in a different way. I for one, would have reacted the same way were the same thing been done by a male model so it’s not even about her being female, it’s about her being a attention hungry D list celeb.Recommend

our real issues are poverty,joblessness,corrouption,lack of justice esp. for poor,hunger,supression our women,lack of respect for poor,a useless unwinnable war & more.we need to stand up to these issues such as by supporting imran.what VEENA did his her personal life & if she did something wrong is between her & whatever.we must look in our garaebaan & see our own sins & faults rather than others !
duaaz for all

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As long as there are men’s magazines and men who pay to see a picture like that, there will be offers made to publicity hungry wannabe actresses who have little hope of making it on the silver screen by virtue of talent alone. Veena Malik is not representing Islam or Pakistan. She is simply representing that unfortunate horde who cannot think of life outside the limelight and cannot figure out the way to the fore front. Veena Malik is just the latest in that line. I think the picture is fake, just a pathetic publicity stunt. A suit has been filed which will be settled out of court. The magazine will be released with a less provoking picture. Nobody appears on a men’s magazine to cover themselves or their family or nation in glory. Veena Malik is quite capable of playing the game and taking care of herself.

There are many women, Muslim and otherwise who have bared all for a photo shoot and the 15 minutes of whatever comes with it. It is sleazy business, yes, It is not something we would like anyone in our family to do. But baying for her blood is a far greater crime..

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@miss india, condemning one wrong doesnt necessarily mean that you support another opposing. please stop living in black and white and your little ‘anti pakistan’ bubble.. what veena has done is just morally repugnant, she has in fact further stamped on the image of women, its disgraceful.. as a representative of pakistan, she should have preserved some dignities.. yes, instances of hate crimes against minorities and violence against women do happen here , as they do in other ‘liberal’ societies. please read up on female infanticide, women rights oppression and hindu-muslim riots in india, cases of domestic abuse, sexual harassment and suppression of blacks and mexicans in america, to name a few… such things should be condemned but so should be the blatant vulgarity and lewdness which veena has shown.

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for those who argue that just because we dont cover our heads as ordained b islam, we have no right to condemn someone for being naked, theres a world of difference between the two. here’s an analogy.. the differnece between a person who survives on a small piece of bread per day for a month and another who eats absolutely nothing for a month.. the first person , however malnourished and weak would survive whereas the second person would starve to death. understand the difference.

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@Straight Fire:

What this has to do with Veena Malik

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She is free to do whatever she wants to in this world and in the hereafter she will be accountable for her deeds before God. We can just remind her that this is not art. One thing disturbs me that if you have done this why do you deny it. If you have the courage to take off your clothes before camera then you must be bold enough to speak the truth. This is hypocrisy and we Pakis are adept in this art, by and large.

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@IndianDude: we will oppose all out for veena to get indian citizenship. what is her eligibility? any pakistani who poses nude in FHM or Playboy can get Indian citizenship? No way.

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