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‘Osama and Obama bad, Qadri good’
Govt must purge madrassas of terrorists, say Barelvi scholars.
Govt must purge madrassas of terrorists, say Barelvi scholars. PHOTO: FILE/ONLINE
LAHORE:
Barelvi scholars have condemned both Osama bin Laden and the United States as “killers of thousands of Muslims”, while demanding the release of the “heroic” Mumtaz Hussan Qadri, the self-confessed killer of Punjab governor Salmaan Taseer.
Speaking at the annual degree awarding ceremony at Aiwan-i-Iqbal for 40 religious scholars on Saturday night, Idara Sirat-i-Mustaqeem head Dr Ashraf Jalali said that Barelvi Muslims saw little difference between Osama and Obama, the US president. Both had killed thousands of Muslims. He said those who were glorifying Osama were really supporters of Obama and following his policies. He demanded an end to US involvement in Pakistan.
Dr Jalali also demanded that prayer leaders and speakers for mosques in DHA be chosen on the basis of proportional representation. He said that the peace could only be ensured through an Islamic system of government.
He urged the participants to oppose “enlightened moderation”, a phrase coined by the government of former President Pervez Musharraf, as it was “the root of all social evils”.
He demanded that politicians give up their lavish lifestyles and serve the public. He said even a hint of rigging in the upcoming elections would result in a bloody revolution.
He also demanded that the government release Mumtaz Qadri, an Elite Police guard who shot and killed Governor Salmaan Taseer while assigned to protect him. The audience roared in approval and shouted slogans praising Qadri. Dr Jalali has already given an award to Qadri and called him a hero.
Dr Raghib Naeemi, the head of Jamia Naeemia, said that that the government should crack down on militant groups that had been banned but were operating under new names.
He said the government should take over and purge the seminaries that were involved in terrorist activities. He said jihad was a noble cause and “people working on America’s payroll” were not engaged in a jihad, but criminal actions that had disturbed the peace of the Islamic world.
The ceremony was also attended by Allama Pir Syed Naveedul Hasan Mashhadi, Allama Abdul Mustafa Hazarvi, Allama Pir Muhammad Atharul Qadri, Allama Razae Mustafa Naqashbandi, Allama Khadim Hussain Rizvi, Allama Pir Munir Ahmed Yousfi, and Pir Syed Karamat Ali Hussain.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 4th, 2011.
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Osama, Obama, Qadri and the Mullahs, all these people are bad.
Bad for this country, bad for the world.Recommend
Shame on those who turn a murderer into a hero just because he too is a ‘Qadri, for whatever it means. They do not deserve the honorific title of allama.Recommend
These are the people the western media loves so much as the moderate face of islam.Recommend
There is more than sufficient evidence to convict this murderer. Why are the courts taking so much time to pass judgement?Recommend
Agree 200%. Just see the Daag-E-Sujood on his face.Recommend
hmm some progress! At least there’s acknowledgement Recommend
I have to say one thing though the maulana is right, so-called “Seculars” use this slogan of enlightened moderation to justify heretical beliefs!
For one the person who introduced this was a boozer for most of his tenure!Recommend
How can the barelvi scholars demand crackdown on militant talibans when they themselves were demanding the release of a killer..
the fact is that suchmullahs are the root cause of terrorism and illiteracy and intolerance in pakistan.Recommend
No shortage of delusional maniacs in Pakistan Recommend
Osama, Obama, Qadri, Dr.Jalali – non of these has done any good to Islam.
Mullah and Moolvis – to me – have done the most damage…
As Iqbal has said..
“…….
Din-e-Mullah fee sabeelillah fasad..”Recommend
this is really badRecommend
well said Talha!Recommend
Unrest and terrorism ( in Pakistan ) is all due to sectarianism but unfortunately nobody is brave enought to admit and then cure it :(Recommend
Wonder what religion these teachers preach? Calling a person a hero who breached his duty to protect someone and instead killed who he had taken an oath to protect? I take much pride in the Ulema of the nation but its their baseless demands like this that make me rethink.Recommend
Bad Bad Boys…..Recommend
He is really a brave man…we salute him.Recommend
omg what kind of molvies they are they even dont know that Islam is the religion of peace and they are supporting people like qadri who killed salman taseer a innocent these were those people who gave fatwa against salman taseerRecommend
The word or sect Brailvi is comical, it is a place in India. Most what these people practice is Shirk and Bidda. Quadri should be put infront of a firing Squad. Anyone with 2 cents of intelligence knows that Salman did not comit Blapshemy. If these so called Mullahs only could read how to treat Moinrities. Recommend
@Muhammad Irfan Khan:
May Allah have mercy on you.Recommend
Authorities should take note of what this so called doctor has said. Round him up and let him rot behind bars. Pakistan is better off without such nutters.Recommend
@Talha:
Some people are bad for themselves … when they ask for mercy but they are inflicted more and more pain :) Recommend
@Muhammad Irfan Khan:
care to explain how? Recommend
@Talha:
Hmm…… well looks like you the worst of the kind.!!! Recommend
I have repeatedly said that you cannot blame mullahs because they are doing what ought to be done in a country which was separated from india in the name of religion. it was the job of leaders to wean the country off the religion, rather they played in the hands of mullahs under one pretext or another. They could have rationed all religions in pakistan. sorry but it appears a lost cause now. this s_ aint gonna stop now. Recommend
If this wasn’t real this would have been the best comedy ever produced. The guys commits a murder, takes full responsibility for the act. Lawyers (this is another joke!) throw rose petals on him. He is seen singing hymns in prison while another segment of officials who are supposed to protect us, i.e. the Police, listen in complete devotion. And now, the icing on the cake, these people want him released.
I don’t know if I should laugh or cry!Recommend
Every thing wrong in a nutshell….a guy who shoots from the back and kills an unarmed person that he is paid to keep safe is called “heroic”.
Problem with Islam ? Pakistan ? Is there a difference ?Recommend
@Shahid
Speaking about yourself, try and cope with things as its not going to get better.
@Fahad Raza
According to your kind. Its true though because I don’t have any leaning towards inciting hatred, killing, cowardice or any of the other ills. Recommend
@TrueNorth
Another Indian unfamiliar with history.
These “Mullahs” we have today were against the creation of Pakistan.
Maulana Maududi, Madani, the Ahrari’s, Deobadi’s etc opposed Pakistan, they were allied with the congress. Take Maulana Fazlur Rahman for example, his father Mufti Mahmood was also with the Congress and opposed Pakistan.
So No, they did not pay into the hands of the Mullahs, the founders of this nation that is. But after the creation of Pakistan, the leaders did slowly start to concede to them.Recommend
This Barelvi mullah may only be slightly better (less militant, more Sufi type) than the Wahabis and Salafis. However, in principle they are the same exploiters of Islam and Muslims. The reason he does not like OBL is that he was an extreme Wahabi, called Salafi who hate moderate Barelvi Muslims and attack their shrines and their mosques, etc. The dislike for OBL is not based upon principle but territorial among Muslim ummah. However, their love for a confessed killer Qadri may be due to his being Barelvi Muslim and not a hardened Salafi. Recommend
some body ask me are u barelvi i said its in india and asked deobandi i said in india
then asked wahabi i said in saudia then asked shia i said in iran finally he asked me what
r u i said muslim which is hard to find in muslim world only avalable in non muslim world.Recommend
On a grading of people who have murdered others, Qadri does come out as the cleanest “bad guy” when compared to Osama and Barack.Recommend
@Fahad Raza:
Sir you have every right to give your side, but why only personal hate? Let us keep it civil and to the point. We should all have our point of view, only four legs of a table can be identical not humans.
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Pathetic. Barelvis are usually reasonable but this is beyond the pale. However, that said, Wahhabis and Salafis are infinitely worse on almost every measure. Recommend
Justice delayed is justice denied. Why the prosecution is taking so long to try and convict this killer qadri. Those barellvi moulvis who are demanding the release of killer qadri should also be tried for abetment. The press should behave responsibly by not giving undu coverage to those moulvis who are demanding the release of the killer and thus making the mockery of rule of law.Recommend
@Muhammad Irfan Khan – LOL how is Qadri brave? He killed an innocent, unarmed man he was paid to protect. If he were brave, he would have argued Taseer and shown Taseer why he was wrong. Qadri is nothing but a fundamentalist coward.
In fact, most fundamentalists are cowards. They can’t sway enough people to think like them so they have to blow people up. When’s the last time you heard of a “liberal terrorist attack” or a “liberal suicide bomber”? Exactly, never.
Pakistan needs to ask itself what it wants to be. The land of the fundamentalists where everyone else bows down to them like cowards or the land of the pure where the fundamentalists are forced to participate in the democratic process, terrorism is ended, and minorities are protected with the ending of the ISI’s reign of terror. If Pakistan doesn’t choose the latter, it won’t need any foreign intervention to disintegrate at the hands of the madmen.Recommend
I hate the fact that Ahl e Sunnat(Barelvi) scholars are defending Qadri for his name being Qadri. I have been supporting the Barelvi stance against attacks on our shrine and mosques by the taliban but Qadri is as bad as Osama or Obama. The fact is that if taliban are bad for attacking Sunni mosques and shrines then Qadri is also bad for killing Salman Taseer. We dont want militants like Qadri to be called barelvi. Barelvis are the only sect right now in Pakistan which is free from militancy. Sectarian terrorism is already at its peak. We have a lot of deobandi/wahabi militant groups like lashkar e tayaba and TTP and a shia militant group like Sipah e Muhammadi, now we dont want a Barelvi one. Barelvi scholars used to be a bridge between liberals and Islamists, they should play their role that way.Recommend
What are the credentials of so called Dr Jalali? Where did he get his doctorate degree? I’m not from Al Azhar or any university of its but probably from his own set up institution.
Isn’t the man liable for prosecution? Does the cover of religion condone such rot? Is he not liable for blasphemy because he is discrediting Islam and the standard of justice and sanctity of human life? Recommend
@Talha:
“So No, they did not pay into the hands of the Mullahs, the founders of this nation that is. But after the creation of Pakistan, the leaders did slowly start to concede to them.”
This is the argument used by most in Pakistan to defend Jinnah. We try to paint people in black and white, good and bad, but the truth is everyone is a shade of grey. Jinnah was no exception.
Mullah’s did oppose Pakistan, for the reason that they thought they could turn the whole of sub-continent towards Islam. Jinnah THOUGHT he can create a safe haven for Muslims, probably to fulfill his own ambitions. But, desire always doesn’t match with reality. All he ended up doing was saying that one set of people are different from another set just because they belonged to another Religion.
This divisive ideology could only survive 24 years.
The Freedom movement threw up a lot of leaders and intellectuals. But, Jinnah couldn’t convince a single one of them to convince them, not even the greatest Muslim leader of that era- Maulana Azad, who by the way thought too that Pakistan was a bad idea. That is the reason there was no one with the popularity and effectiveness of Jinnah after his death. The Mullahs and the Generals just filled this space later on and you can see this in the Objectives Resolution. While on the other there were dozens of leaders in India who could’ve lead India. That is the reason India got a Constitution within 3 years and that has not changed and will never will.Recommend
C’mon guys dont strike all the mullahs with same stick!
Not all fingers are same.
Pakistan was separated on the name of Islam. And what is our leaders view on it?
Abolishing the Islamic practices, and introducing the Non-muslim ones. Its making No sense!
Khuda ke waaste yarr! QURAN has everything, every single little things solution, on which we are fighting, killing, abusing others. WE, OUR COUNTRY SHOULD ABIDE BY IT. Can’t you distinguish between the Law of ALL-SUPREME, ALL MERCIFUL, THE CREATOR and the Creation?
Which is better? Obliviously the one given by ALLAH!
Spread the good and Shun the evil around you! Everything’s going to be fine!Recommend
@Muhammad Irfan Khan:
I hope your’e referring to salman taseer…Recommend
@BruteForce: If Jinnah wanted to fulfill his own ambition, he would’ve become the PM of India as Gandhi & Mountbatten had offered to him. Pls study accurate history thoroughly before making such uninformed statements.Recommend
@BruteForce
Please research before ranting online.
Jinnah own ambitions does not make much sense as he knew he was dying and he did not benefit from the creation of Pakistan at all. He gave up all his wealth, his family suffered and he suffered the most as a result of this idea of his. So your argument is flawed and very much consistent with the Indian thought.
These “leaders and intellectuals” from the Freedom movement were a part of the Muslim League. May I remind you the achievements of the likes of HH Aga Khan, Sir Zafarullah Khan, Allama Iqbal, Sir Feroz Khan Noon, Sir Sahibzada Abdul Qayyum Khan.
Weren’t these people more important that some unknown Mullah called Maulana Azad.
What were this Malana’s achievments, nothing, he failed in all his objectives.
You throw his name around as if he was something great.Recommend
Paradox…this is Insane…
Qadri stands in the same row as that of Osama and Obama…A single Human killed refers to Humanity killed which brings Qadri in the same row.
My point HANG Qadri so that justice is served, he killed Taseer as he thought it was rightful so now the Humanity demands that justice should be served he should be hanged.
Being enlightened is not wrong till one is in limits and one sets one’s limits oneself!!!Recommend
@supertramp:
Two things.
1) Jinnah’s Pakistan was almost made by then. Gandhi made the offer knowing power is what Jinnah might have wanted. He would have looked foolish to backtrack and he was the sole leader of the new nation of Pakistan. Why would he have to work with leaders in Congress if he can be the Ultimate leader for an entire new nation?
2) I did not conclude that Pakistan was to fulfill his ambitions. That is why I used the word ‘probably’. If it was not his ambition then it was pure stupidity indeed to preach the two nation theory. People like Maulana Azad saw through the gaping holes in that theory and hence had predicted Pakistan’s doom.
@Talha:
“Jinnah own ambitions does not make much sense as he knew he was dying ”
What rubbish. Jinnah had no idea that he was dying when he started the call for Pakistan is the early 40s or even earlier.
“He gave up all his wealth, his family suffered and he suffered the most as a result of this idea of his. ”
He became the undisputed leader of a whole nation. Why would he need his wealth(by that you mean property, I assume) back in India? Wouldn’t you write off your whole bank account to if you know for sure you will be the Prime Minister of Pakistan(Of course where the Army doesn’t dictate to the PM)?
“These “leaders and intellectuals” from the Freedom movement were a part of the Muslim League. ”
I wonder where these leaders vanished when Jinnah passed. I wonder why these distinguished leaders let Pakistan become an ‘Islamic Nation’ as it was proclaimed in the Objective Resolution? Pakistan became rudderless as there wasn’t a leader like Nehru or Patel or Azad or Ambedkar or Radhakrishnan at the top. India was always going to be in safe hands of its stupendous leaders.
Pakistan only had Jinnah. No worthy backup, whatsoever. And, Alama Iqbal? I wonder who wrote ‘Saare Jahaan Se Acha, Hindustan Hamara’. Dude..
“Weren’t these people more important that some unknown Mullah called Maulana Azad.”
You ignorant fool. Maulana Azad was the greatest Muslim leader of the Freedom struggle. You went by his name and called him a Mullah. How dumb of you, indeed. His name was Abul Kalam Azad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbulKalamAzad
“He is also known for having predicted the future military rule and partition of Pakistan before its independence.”
He was responsible for the creation of the Indian Institute of Technology(IIT).
Jinnah pleaded the Maulana to come to Pakistan initially but Azad told him bluntly that Pakistan was going to be failed experiment, and is going to suffer from Military Interventions and is going to fall apart. Such was the genius of the man. His prediction came true in just 24 short years.Recommend
@BruteForce: I’ve worked and lived with Indians extensively and all I’ll say is: THANK GOD FOR PAKISTAN!! It wasn’t Jinnah’s stupidity. You’re just an idiot! Recommend
@Talha:
Talha and others need to watch what they say, Dr Ashraf Jalali is Mufti and and a High level Alim. Recommend
@Abdul
Tell this “Mufti & Alim” to speak sense if he wants some respect.Recommend
@supertramp:
Too bad the Bengalis also thought the same of you, eh? When you preach division that is what you get. Recommend
@ET
Where is my comment in reply to this “BruteForce”?
Please approve so I can put an end to his nonsense?Recommend