Fresh Bin Laden leads: Army decries NYT report as ‘smear campaign’

Published: June 25, 2011

Pakistan army spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said in a statement sent by text message that the military rejects the insinuations made in the NYT story. PHOTO: EPA

ISLAMABAD / WASHINGTON: 

The Pakistan Army condemned on Friday a report in The New York Times that a cell phone found in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden contained contacts to a militant group with ties to Pakistan’s top spy agency.

The newspaper, citing unnamed senior US officials briefed on the findings, reported on Thursday that the discovery indicated that Bin Laden used the group, Harakat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM), as part of his support network inside Pakistan.

The cell phone belonged to Bin Laden’s courier, who was killed along with the al Qaeda godfather in the May 2 raid by US special forces on a compound in Abbottabad, the NYT said.

Military spokesperson Major-General Athar Abbas said in a statement sent by text message that the military “rejects the insinuations made in the NYT story”.  “It is part of a well-orchestrated smear campaign against our security organisations,” he said.

The army has been angered by media reports that elements in the Pakistani security establishment may have helped Bin Laden hide in Pakistan. “Pakistan, its security forces have suffered the most at the hands of al Qaeda and have delivered the most against al Qaeda; our actions on the ground speak louder than the words of the Times,” Abbas said.

Meanwhile, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM) has denied any links with al Qaeda or Bin Laden. “Al Qaeda has their own discipline, their own thinking, their own organisation. We have never ever been in touch with Bin Laden,” a spokesman for the group told the BBC.

Although banned in Pakistan, analysts say HuM has links with the country’s intelligence agency. But the group’s spokesperson denied that they had any links with the Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

The report comes days after a Pakistani brigadier serving at the army’s headquarters was detained for allegedly having contacts with the banned extremist group Hizb ut-Tahrir. He denies the allegation. Four majors were also questioned for involvement with outlawed militant outfits.

Leaving aside HuM’s alleged contacts with al Qaeda, the group has a long history of militant activities. In 1998 when the US rained cruise missiles on suspected al Qaeda bases in the Khost province of Afghanistan to avenge the bombing of US missions in Kenya and Tanzania, nine HuM militants were killed and several wounded.

The group’s former leader, Maulana Fazlur Rehman Khalil, is cited by the NYT report as being a co-signer of Bin Laden’s 1998 edict ordering attacks against America. The group was central to organising press trips for journalists to see Bin Laden in Afghanistan before the 9/11 attacks.

During the Afghan jihad against the Soviets in the 1980s, HuM fighters had fought alongside the Younus Khalis faction of Hizb-e-Islami. And after the withdrawal of Soviet troops, HuM had infiltrated Indian-administered Kashmir to fight the ‘Indian occupation’.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 25th, 2011.

Reader Comments (99)

  • Mirza
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:02AM

    As more facts come to light, Pakistani people would finally realize why did the army react against the Abbottabad operation? US has not only killed OBL they have gotten a treasure trove of info regarding his working and friends. Wait for the other shoe to drop. Recommend

  • Ashok
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:04AM

    Let’s all remember that at one point, OBL was assisted and trained by both the CIA and the ISI.

    If someone hires an assassin to go and target someone (The Soviet Union), there is no guarantee that the assassin won’t one day come back after you (9/11).

    The ISI was most probably keeping OBL in cold storage because of services rendered earlier. Furthermore, he was a military strategist on his own, and had enormous propaganda value. The ISI would have felt that if Arab unrest were to take a pan Islamic course on a massive scale, OBL would have been useful as a propaganda magnet to say something along the lines of “Oh Ummah, now you attack India” in order to wrest Kashmir. This would have acted as a force multiplier using low cost mercenaries from the perspective of PakMil. I had already figured this out before OBL was captured and had a good feeling that he was hiding with the assistance of the ISI.Recommend

  • Jun 24, 2011 - 10:13AM

    I wish the title of the news had some backing in the details. Otherwise its just crap sensationalism.Recommend

  • Mirza
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:25AM

    @PostMan:
    NY Times is the largest English paper in the world. It broke this story and can be seen on their website. Regards,
    MirzaRecommend

  • Akthar
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:28AM

    Incompetent or Complacent? The question continues, & our ISPR goes numb!
    The very vocal ISPR Spokesman disappears while the nation awaits answers. Its close to 45 days.
    Just like Bangladesh split, or like Kargil war or like Benazir Bhutto or like Zia`s death or like raymond davis or like.. .. … All our leaders, Political or Military, are not accountable to us. 35000 lives lost & yet we never learn.
    We are brainwashed to believe in false ghairat which we already lost. We just keeping drumming up Ghairat between ourselves while the whole world gives a damn. Recommend

  • Maher
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:36AM

    An employee of a company always have connections with his employer. That is the situation in OBL, ISI & CIA. Definitely ISI knew OBL’s whereabouts and was in contact with him. More facts will come. Recommend

  • UMAIR
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:38AM

    i have feelingd that the axe of allegations has been directed towards Pakistan once again. And i’m expecting this slash even more severe.Recommend

  • Mehreen
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:41AM

    Irresponsible title, if it isn’t clear whether the calls were related to bin Laden, your title really shouldn’t present it as fact. Recommend

  • Hassan Cheema
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:45AM

    @Ashok: Dude Bin Laden was already irrelevant…but u r right that we will use cheap merceneries to attack India, WITH OR WITHOUT Bin Laden…..Recommend

  • bulbul
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:47AM

    It has only been 2 months so I hope no one has forgotten how it was said that the compound had no “connection” to outside world. No facilities, no leisure bla bla

    No they have found OBL watching videos of himself on TV and now his personal Cell phone?

    Not to forget his personal p*rn collection.

    YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:10AM

    Already anticipated, still scary from an Indian point of view.Recommend

  • Jun 24, 2011 - 11:14AM

    Intelligence as solid as Iraqi WMDs one. Real solid.Recommend

  • Haris Farooq
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:26AM

    Radicals are very common in Pakistan. Militant sypethisers are not a small minority. Even prominent political and religious parties have a soft corner for militants.
    ISI or Armed forces are not aloof, they are not from Thailand, they have same roots in our society. We as a nation alongside US and a host of world allies fought against USSR not for few years but for decades. These are realities we must not forget.
    Now finding links through cell phone data to radicals in Pakistan should not be surpring, but linking it to ISI is too early.
    US nows that our nation is anti US, our masses and institutions are not aloof from radicals, but US had to bear us all with patience since Sept 11, but now US is nearing an end game so they are only targetting our links with the radicals to gradually finding excuse to abandon us.
    Remeber this is second divorce to us, the first divorce was given to us after success against USSR in Afghanistan.
    So dont get surprised, most of the things are preplanned, they are putting maximum pressure on Civil and Military leadership of Pakistan to prepare grounds for second dviroce. Recommend

  • Asad
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:35AM

    How do they trace the number to Harakat-ul-Mujahideen? what was the number 1800-Harakat-ul-Mujahideen?Recommend

  • Jun 24, 2011 - 11:35AM

    @Mirza:
    What does the title suggest? That ISI were in cahoots with OBL. What do the details show?

    “It’s an avenue we’re investigating”
    “Another US official told the daily that the link was not, however, a “smoking gun” that definitively linked bin Laden to the ISI, as it was unclear if the calls were related to him.”

    And oh I am so afraid of NYT!Recommend

  • Billoo Bhaya
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:43AM

    Once the same paper NYT was writing about WMDs and Al Qaida in Iraq? The world got taken by that farce as well.Recommend

  • Dr. Mohammad Azmi
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:43AM

    The whole world laughs at us and we continue to live in denial. Cant get more shameful than this.

    If it is comprehensively proven that the ISI was sheltering OBL, its the endgame. I foresee our nation being labelled formally as one of the first TERRORIST STATES in the world.

    Pathetic to say the least.

    Dr. Mohammad Azmi,
    Nuremberg, GermanyRecommend

  • Adeel Ahmed
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:44AM

    Yet another propaganda to malign our intelligence agency which is best in the world…
    Our enemies are after everything that can protect Pakistan…Recommend

  • Malik
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:52AM

    This is some thing really hard to digest….. All phone call records are under control of ISI itself, howcome USA got record of calls? This is all drama to defame ISI as they have been doing in the form of Nawaz sharif……Recommend

  • Adeel Ahmed
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:52AM

    What poor piece of journalism

    “appears to show…” “militants linked to”

    Such words carry no weight and no substance…
    We want solid proof, till then ET should not even print such garbage…Recommend

  • Adeel Ahmed
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:54AM

    @Maher:
    The only fact we know of is that America has been unable to produce photographs (credible ones anyways) and dead body of OBL…Recommend

  • Mirza
    Jun 24, 2011 - 12:07PM

    This would give hundreds of newspapers and websites for this news. However, the nay sayers are not going to believe any of this. They already know it is wrong.
    http://www.google.com/search?q=Cellphone+used+by+Bin+Laden%27s+courier+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-aRecommend

  • BruteForce
    Jun 24, 2011 - 12:08PM

    Well, the World cant do anything now. But, the actions will have to taken after 2014. I dont see much changing either on the US or the Pakistani side except the fact that both know that they are not going to be allies after 2014, far from it.

    @Mirza:

    “NY Times is the largest English paper in the world.”

    Small correction. Please pardon me. Times of India is the largest English language newspaper in the World. NYTimes is the best though.Recommend

  • zaf
    Jun 24, 2011 - 12:14PM

    One cannot trust the CIA, they are after ISI to attack them when they can to discredit. None of the findings surprise they arer expected CIA being CIA. Everytrhing is possible, US needs to support PK. They are in cahoots with inda.Recommend

  • Chacha
    Jun 24, 2011 - 12:16PM

    @Moise: OBL was found in Pakistan – neither Pakistan nor Saudi nor Yemen has questioned this. Pakistan is on record that OBL’s wives are with them. If this is not proof, then you are blind.Recommend

  • ahmed
    Jun 24, 2011 - 12:32PM

    What about the new that this compound was in use of CIA who themself build this thing and they have planned everything so crew Pakistan to save their nose…. they should stop blaming everything on Pakistan otherwise people of Pakistan start getting ready to kill every American solider in this country.Recommend

  • Paras Vikmani
    Jun 24, 2011 - 12:33PM

    Lets see what conspiracy theories Pakistanis come up with now!Recommend

  • Noor
    Jun 24, 2011 - 12:38PM

    Why CIA has contacts with Taliban & Al-Qaeda?

    Even if there was a link, its a fact that,

    “Every intelligence agency has to keep relations with both sides.”Recommend

  • sam
    Jun 24, 2011 - 1:08PM

    OMG can anyone not see the obvious in this? even an an average joe has the braincells to ensure no official link can be found between themselves and a militant.. ISI is anythign but that naieve ……….. im sure they ahd contact with OBL but theyr not dumb enough to leave a trail behind …. Recommend

  • Frank
    Jun 24, 2011 - 1:16PM

    What does this prove? Much ado about nothingRecommend

  • Tany
    Jun 24, 2011 - 1:21PM

    I completely support Harris Farooq’s comments and would add It is Pakistan and not US facing the militants bluntly so many sarcrifices are not a propoganda but is on record. On the other hand what did US find in Iraq? Is unable to lobby successfully against Iran. Why Peneata a (CIA director and would be Pentagon Head) is in Afghanistan?

    So i am sure the other shoe will drop on Mr. Mirza and Mr. Ashok’s comments. Keep on listening and much more to come ……. Recommend

  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    Jun 24, 2011 - 1:36PM

    @Mirza: Many say and believe that NYT is very close to the US administration/establishment. If this is really true then where are we heading?????Do we really need any group/s as sand bags though others consider them purely a terrorist organization???? Why we think and believe that only our country can save and promote Islam in the whole world???? It is really very strange that we are in the state of war right from 1948. We are the only nation and country which is always under great pangs on variety of religious issues in the world. When will we start thinking about economics and welfare of common person on the streets?????Recommend

  • The patriot
    Jun 24, 2011 - 1:47PM

    What a shame , the news in NY Times is something else and you have put it on Tribune in some other way.
    Are they against us and our enemy or its you now the Media…..
    Please come into your senses before people take you to streets.Recommend

  • Akthar
    Jun 24, 2011 - 2:01PM

    Let me help Rehman Malik with his statement:

    “Terrorists dont recognize borders, so do Cell Phones”
    “Samsung is the cellphone and hence samsung has to be arrested for making calls to OBL”
    “Since Terrorists (Starwar`s characters) of PNS Raid also used samsung, Its a universal conspiracy by starwars to defame Pakistan as OBL also used samsung”

    ;)Recommend

  • Asad
    Jun 24, 2011 - 2:06PM

    So what was the number they found 1800-Harakat-ul-Mujahideen?Recommend

  • 50Cal
    Jun 24, 2011 - 2:12PM

    @Mirza you seemed to have conveniently ignored the following:

    “Another US official told the daily that the link was not, however, a “smoking gun” that definitively linked bin Laden to the ISI, as it was unclear if the calls were related to him.

    nothing but sensationalist reporting, move on people nothing to see here.Recommend

  • san
    Jun 24, 2011 - 3:12PM

    These media leaks to NYT shows something else as we expercienced in War on Terror and Iraq invasion….US are up-to something but they are just making their public mind…dont know what but it might have serious consequences and people of Pakistan have to face the fallout..Recommend

  • Genius
    Jun 24, 2011 - 3:36PM

    Are there not volumes that link OBL to the CIA also known as ALCIADA?Recommend

  • Pragmatist
    Jun 24, 2011 - 3:37PM

    Nothing about Pakistan is surprising anymore. That is the real tragedy. Pakistan got a one-way ticket to disaster when they went to bed with the likes of Dawood Ibrahim, Saeed Hafiz, Mullah Omar, Osama and Masood Azhar. Recommend

  • Helpless citizen
    Jun 24, 2011 - 4:14PM

    @Haris Farooq:
    divorce coupled with sanction, as usual.Recommend

  • Roflcopter
    Jun 24, 2011 - 4:20PM

    “Cellphone links Bin Laden to ISI”

    “Another US official told the daily that the link was not, however, a “smoking gun” that definitively linked bin Laden to the ISI, as it was unclear if the calls were related to him.”

    Really now?Recommend

  • Imran ahmed siddiqui
    Jun 24, 2011 - 4:39PM

    Well your Tv channel is reporting that “Osama mobile records show no link with ISI.”now tell me what should i believe!!Recommend

  • syed kashif Hassnain rizvi
    Jun 24, 2011 - 4:40PM

    its a part of game in which Usa, india n israel want to make a civil war in Paksitan and make the Pakistani nation against Pak army n Isi so they will be weak and asked help from usa…
    Bull news, they can make all this fake connections now. its very easy to make fake connections.Recommend

  • san
    Jun 24, 2011 - 4:48PM

    @Mirza: pls correct urself. The Times Of India is the world’s largest selling English language newspaper.Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 24, 2011 - 4:56PM

    Immediately after Obama was captured, it was reported in Pak media that Obama’s Abbotabad house was known locally as a Harkat-Ul-Mujahideen compund, an ally of ISI, so off limits to local law enforcement. Congratulations to the establsihment for obtaining so many dollars from USA while allegedly hiding the asset for which it was being paid to hunt. Recommend

  • Feroz
    Jun 24, 2011 - 5:57PM

    There a few issues of importance pertaining to the leak of this information :-

    Yes NYT is the Worlds best paper with solid credibility due to having links inside the Administration in Washington. They never carry fake stories and once when they did it was retracted with an apology.
    The leak means the US is planning some action which will have negative implications for Pakistan. The message is politely building local public opinion for the action planned.
    Realization has dawned in Yankee policy circles that rank and file of the Pakistan Military is ideologically oriented, well being of the poverty stricken masses being of lower priority to them than their Assets.
    The tap providing Aid will be slowed to a trickle before it finally runs dry.
    The CIA has collected a treasure trove of information linking ISI with various terror plots in India and Afghanistan, also socialising with various terror groups in Pakistan. No cooperation means these records find their way to the UN for sanctions or declaration of ISI as a global terror organisation.

    It is time for Parliament to intervene because big Power brokers have big Ego's. Also elected representatives need to sink their personal differences and take over the reins of negotiations with the US. Leaving the Military to tide over the matter means Hara Kiri.

    Pray God is Kind and Merciful !
    Recommend

  • safir
    Jun 24, 2011 - 6:02PM

    When ever new week end starts i see there is some new masaladar news comes out of
    new york times or wasgington post then whole week people sing that song.Recommend

  • Think
    Jun 24, 2011 - 6:15PM

    Was Ossama a criminal ? who declared him ? How Osama’s killing was different Sarfaraz Shah’s Killing?. Or let us make it a rule that whatever propagated in media should be taken as an evidence for crime and conviction. Make some rules at least. See how strong the writ of Law is in US. They had to make Camp X ray outside US for unlawful activities.Recommend

  • Someone
    Jun 24, 2011 - 6:40PM

    The New York Times…the biggest American propaganda newspaper, and the first newspaper that openly claimed that Iraq had WMD’s. Anything these guys say, well, don’t buy into it. Recommend

  • Tanveer
    Jun 24, 2011 - 7:00PM

    Provocative title by tribune. Even New York Times article did not point fingers on ISI directly. They only said that calls were traced from the courier of OBL to a militant organization with which ISI also has contacts.

    And there are some people who are always and regularly commenting on anti-military articles like “Mirza”. Who is this Mirza guy who is always spreading hate against the Army?Recommend

  • Cautious
    Jun 24, 2011 - 7:04PM

    The only people surprised by this news are those that still believe the USA used 747′s to attack itself on 911. Anyone really think that when the dust settles that the USA is going to consider Pakistan an ally? Anyone think the USA is going to risk life and limb protecting you from India? Anyone think that the USA has any motive to continue providing military, financial, and diplomatic cover for Pakistan? If so — I have a bridge that I can sell you.Recommend

  • Jameel
    Jun 24, 2011 - 8:01PM

    Yeah…that’s a surprise. Right?Recommend

  • Afaq
    Jun 24, 2011 - 8:52PM

    Oh really??? What about your opinion about Davis who was involved in suspicious movement in Pakistan New York Times????Recommend

  • Peace On Earth
    Jun 24, 2011 - 8:55PM

    And here rush in all the doubters and finger-pointing apologetic individuals! Why do we do this? Why can’t we accept that we are wrong and have seriously messed up our priorities and instead, take a new course of action towards getting away from Islamic extremism and sending terrorists to Kashmir?

    No wonder Pakistan is moving in the wrong direction, no one in any level of civil society wants to take responsibility for there actions!

    Instead of blaming America (which does NOT take joy in killing innocent civilians) why not direct our anger towards those people who have sold our nation by joining with extremists groups who subsequently attack Pakistanis?!?!?!!?Recommend

  • Jun 24, 2011 - 9:36PM

    Vienna,24-06-2011
    Harriss Farooq bhai, take it from me the second time divorce demand comes from the
    Pakistan´s army and ISI chief Lt.General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, who told the parliament
    that he shouted at CIA boss Leon Panetta before abruptly returning from Washington.
    Americans are mature enough to stay bound to Pakistan even at some cost.But it
    looks as though Pakistan likes to cut company for good to go to the arms of all
    weather friend the Mandarin Chinese.
    Kulamarva Balakrishna Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 24, 2011 - 9:48PM

    Ultimate goal are the nukes of Pakistan…but only the fools will continue to support the master…Recommend

  • R
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:07PM

    OBL was killed in Abbottabad. However, 66% or more Pakistanis believe their own conspiratorial version of reality. His wives – who were they living with, if not him? Is this adulterous behavior on their part? Why no calls for sharia now?

    But ……… we all know that the world is out to malign Pakistan! “Jewish media”!! ISPR along with the Hamids – Zaid and Gul, will prove so without a shadow of doubt. Recommend

  • Zain
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:30PM

    The hidden objective of the US is to present Pakistan as a terrorist infront of the world and thus capture its nukes.Recommend

  • mehdi Jamal
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:18PM

    Where there is smoke, there is fire! I would say there is even more corruption & evil residing in the ISI than we know.

    So all you apologists, skeptics and those who have buried their heads in the sand, do you still believe the ISI, or some elements within ISI, have clean hands on this matter, or on issues surrounding their support of terrorists in general? And do you still doubt the corrupt nature of the ISI? Easy to blame India, the U.S., or some other foreign country, but then you are either fools, ignorant or in denial in light of all the facts that have come out.Recommend

  • adam
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:27PM

    laugh buddies laugh as loud as you can, the last evidences they found was this that is inidrect link, I am really have pitty on countries and the top intelligence agenceis in the world that they came with the idea that the cell phone has some numbers which are linked to militants, off course the miltant have miltitant links, what ealse they found they should come with that, or they should come with evidences that the organization they refered is ISI itself, I also wonder, the corpse of Osama they way they drowned it into sea, giving lamb excuses, I don;t buy this, if the whole world busy it,, damRecommend

  • hassan
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:29PM

    Why no Pakistani TV anchor has asked for interview with Obama’s relatives captured on the compound? Is it a difficult request?

    Why no ‘gharatmand’ reporter has asked for permission to interview Osama’s wives?Recommend

  • adam
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:32PM

    don’t belive when it comes to inteligence services, they know how to hid and how to run, don’t believe the agents like OBL, don’t belive on anything ealse, only think you got to belive is the proof, make it public not close doors conspiracies, then we know what is right what is wrong, don;t waste you time and peace of mind foooooooooooooooooooooools.Recommend

  • adam
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:43PM

    friends don’t waste time here, let the reall fact will come, then you will laugh at yourselfRecommend

  • Naqvi
    Jun 24, 2011 - 11:57PM

    @Ashok:
    Wow Ashok, you had it all figured out. Maybe CIA or RAW should hire you instead of wasting billions on actually tracking them down.

    The US does not release an official statement and a daily newspaper, publicizes this event. How convenient, don’t you think. And please get off Kashmir, there are a whole lot of human rights violations happening on your side, by your own military. You might want to look into that first.Recommend

  • Sameer
    Jun 25, 2011 - 12:17AM

    The Pakistani government and military are devoid of any credibility. After you tell the world and your own citizens a thousand lies, they get it – you are a liar and cannot be trusted.

    To Pakistan’s people – destroy the ISI, destroy the terrorists, put up a fence around all of Pakistan to prevent movement of terrorists, create real policing to protect civilians, and invest in education. The military of Pakistan needs to be cleaned out of all the terrorists inside it.Recommend

  • Ashutosh
    Jun 25, 2011 - 12:20AM

    Obliviously !Recommend

  • Cautious
    Jun 25, 2011 - 12:44AM

    Smear campaign – by whom and for what motive? Once again it’s the infamous boogeyman out to get Pakistan. Catching OBL in your backyard within shouting distance of your Military Academy was sufficient embarrassment. No amt of evidence is going to convince the people of Pakistan of anything — you still believe that OBL is alive – that the USA was behind 911 – pathetic.Recommend

  • Mirza
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:11AM

    Two small points quickly.
    NY Times has the ownership of several other papers as well. Be that as it may, on the sheer population the Indians are likely to be correct. But it does not affect the message.
    Regarding WMD, there was an Op-ed, in NY Times by a lady. That lady has been shamed and disgraced by her fellow journalists. People ignore the fact that in a paper many people write and give their opinions. The editor gives their disclaimer everyday about that. Op-ed is an opinion and not a page from Bible. Grow up. Here is an example of how Pakistani express their opinion and nobody criticize them:

    Thinking of Pakistani general, kill a million civilians and their families. If this is not treason and crimes against humanity then what is? And Pakistanis talk about an ordinary journalist? This is the highest level of public servant on public money!

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/194842/a-revolutionary-clean-up/Recommend

  • Hafeez
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:21AM

    @Naqvi: Have you not read the artcles published in ET related to Azad Kashmir (Pkistan Occupied Kashmir)? Better read it once before commenting about Indian Kashmir.

    Khuda Hafiz.Recommend

  • MK
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:44AM

    @Mirza:
    And that makes it authentic information? . I can show you articles where NY times posted that Iraq has WMDs. Recommend

  • Explorer
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:59AM

    Remember’ ISI arrested those who helped track OBL.Since May, many layers of ISI’s duplicity are getting peeled off. Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 25, 2011 - 2:13AM

    We did not do it : Establishment.

    Bye the way Harkat-Ul-Mujahideen, one of the most brutal militant Organizations, is very close to the agency , just as Lashker-e-toiba is.Recommend

  • S Khan
    Jun 25, 2011 - 7:06AM

    @Mehreen:
    You are right Mehreen. They were not talking about AQ or BL. They were actually gossiping about Meers’s marriage.Recommend

  • S Khan
    Jun 25, 2011 - 7:14AM

    @Adeel Ahmed:
    Asif you will believe photograph produced by US or even for that matter ISI. You will always and always live in denial.Recommend

  • Mirza
    Jun 25, 2011 - 7:16AM

    @S Khan:
    Pretty funny, I like it!
    Thanks and regards,
    MirzaRecommend

  • Jun 25, 2011 - 8:02AM

    Have they ever actually admitted to themselves being at fault in any scenario? They’ve tried to hard to make themselves look faultless in almost any situation. Faultless sounds good if it wasn’t for the fact it’s a fact that no agency is perfect. They have to be lying some of the time and if people don’t know when they are, they’re going to take it as the worst case scenario in all they say to be on the safe side. I’m open to the idea of the information being a bit off but, only if it’s based in common sense and perceivable facts. Not on their word.Recommend

  • sanjithmenon
    Jun 25, 2011 - 9:03AM

    At last it has dawned in the minds of US policy makers, that Al qeda, Taliban , Let, HuM and all that alphabetical soup, of Jihadi organisations are all extensions of Pakistan army and its ISI. We in India has been saying this all along. but then who cares or cared? After spending close to half a trillion dollars, it has finally dawned? Yanks are Yanks…blunderbuss.Recommend

  • Ba ha
    Jun 25, 2011 - 9:57AM

    WP, NYT and LA times are basically all US govt instruments. They lost credibility after the Vietnam war. We consult them to see what evil is up toRecommend

  • Jun 25, 2011 - 10:10AM

    @Mirza: Mirza! How right you are my brother. As much as my criticism of the USA and UK goes, the fact remains that the Pak army and air force were caught with their pants down. It makes me shudder at the thought of 1967 when the Egyptian airforce got wiped out in one early morning Israeli swoop. And of course, the 1971 debacle when ninty thousand Pakistan POWs were taken by the Indian army.
    Then the treasure trove of information form OBL’s house will make life hell for Pakistan. Firthermore, adding insult to injury the Mehran Base fiasco in which the militants combatted our forces for a good twelve hours. And of course the torturous death of S S Shahzad. Salams to our beleagured country. Our near, dear and beloved Pakistan.

    PS: Read http://atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MF23Df04.html. You will know the mischief the USA, ISAF and NATO forces are upto. Recommend

  • SaneVoice
    Jun 25, 2011 - 10:55AM

    I cannot stop laughing…thats all I have to sayRecommend

  • Jun 25, 2011 - 10:59AM

    @Chacha:
    Have you seen his dead body or media told you so?Recommend

  • Jun 25, 2011 - 11:02AM

    @Ba ha:
    It is shame Pakistanis and Indians pretending to be Pakistanis have outsourced critical thinking to these newspapers and say what the newspaper tell them to say.Recommend

  • Maher
    Jun 25, 2011 - 11:08AM

    Simple is that, Pakistan must have knew OBL’s presence in the the country.Recommend

  • Aamir
    Jun 25, 2011 - 11:18AM

    @Maher:
    very bad maher. Read what Mr. Ahmedinijad said. Irans President. He was not OBL. it was a drama. its just that Army cannot say this. its people like you who are weaking Pakistan. unaware of the factsRecommend

  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Jun 25, 2011 - 11:25AM

    ISI just cleared issuance of 3 dozen visas to CIA.Give them more and maybe they will SHUT UP.Recommend

  • Akthar
    Jun 25, 2011 - 11:53AM

    Good to see Athar Abbas back. He disappeared on May 2nd along with Osama & reappeared now! From here on he’ll regularly conduct shows on TV. He’ll also tell us scores (20/30 terrorist dead today etc).Recommend

  • Feroz
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:17PM

    Pakistani army statements always manage to hide the truth and apply balm to its Political constituency. The litany of lies are many. No Osama in Pakistan, no terror training camps, no Mullah Omar, no Haqqani group, no Quetta shura, no ties between ISI and terror groups, no state sponsored terrorism etc. The citizen may be lapping up all the fairy tales but the World is not made up of all gullible souls steeped in ideological propaganda.Recommend

  • Ben
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:19PM

    Every intelligence outfit has some kinds of contacts with all kinds of people. Remember Raymond Davis, the American “diplomat” who killed innocent Pakistanis in broad day light. His seized cell phone had record of his frequent contacts with LeJ and TTP terrorists who are declared enemies of the Pakistani state. The American media is actively trying to malign Pakistan’s security forces to bring them under pressure to do America’s bidding. Unfortunately, Pakistani media’s immature anchors and PML (N) politicians are active partners in this smearing campaign. Recommend

  • Jun 25, 2011 - 1:43PM

    @Malik:

    USA owns the comm satelliteRecommend

  • Arindom
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:51PM

    Strategic Assets come home to roost….Recommend

  • camaro
    Jun 25, 2011 - 1:58PM

    Mark my words – this is just the beginning. The chickens are only just beginning to come home to roost. Could any body have expected anything different after the thoughtless congratulatory message by Asif Zardari to Obama after the killing of OBL by American SEALS on May 3. The other telling message for our establishment, which grabs the lion’s share of the national exchequer for its lavish upkeep and in return is expected to be wide awake at all times but was found to be napping when the appointed hour chimed, from this is the trite saying ” As you sow , so shall you reap”. Since they did not even know about the existence of the OBL compound in Abbotabad, there is no way they could have known anything about the contents of various cell phones tweeting there. The Americans can therefore now claim to have discovered anything in them and the naive “world ” will lap it up, loud and vehement denials by the likes of ISPR spokesman Gen.Abbas notwithstanding. The name to bear in mind always and at all times when dealing with the Americans is that of “Dr. Faustus” . He who forgets, does so at his peril . But such knowledge and wisdom only comes to seekers and not small time hustlers, whose early career consisted of selling cinema tickets on the black market, and who made it big only because dame Fortune happened to smile on them, and that too mistakenly. Recommend

  • Mom
    Jun 25, 2011 - 2:59PM

    Deny. Lie. Hide.. all now easy and “cool” for Holy Islamic warriors
    While liberal NYT, credible and trueRecommend

  • Menon
    Jun 25, 2011 - 3:40PM

    @Akthar:
    I knew it, Samsung and S. Korea are co-conspirators with CIA-RAW-Mossad to defame Pakistan. They are putting clandestine “spy chips” in all of their cell phones sold in Pakistan that is how CIA is collecting intelligence. Smart Pakistani’s figured it out. No more cell service, end of problems.Recommend

  • G. Din
    Jun 25, 2011 - 4:01PM

    @hassan:
    @Babloo:
    You probably meant “Osama” and not “Obama”! Recommend

  • Faisel Hafeez
    Jun 25, 2011 - 4:01PM

    USA Short Changed its Front Line “Allay” on the OBL End Game.
    They are going by their script of ” 9/11 ” .Recommend

  • Irfan
    Jun 25, 2011 - 6:16PM

    @Asad

    CIA just called directory assistance North Waziristan. Thats how they get Harkat-ul-Islam number. Easy!!

    Also CIA people always leaking to NY times

    Also NY times did same thing in 1989 only then it was Pakistan’s nuke program.

    Also sometimes they use skype

    Also they twitter

    NY times twittering in Libya all day without internet

    They know good Jadu (Magic)Recommend

  • Al
    Jun 25, 2011 - 6:20PM

    As usual the army decries…instead of telling the yankees to stay quiet…pack your bags and leave or get expelled…instead they allowed more cia operatives in the country. Why ?

    Fear Allah and HE will help you. Fear America and it will destroy you…Recommend

  • R S JOHAR
    Jun 25, 2011 - 7:48PM

    Pakistan’s top agency complicity in OBL case was a foregone conclusion which was taken with a pinch of salt by US since it needed Pakistan’s co-operation till 2014. Pakistan though proved guilty many a times, continues to remain in a mode of constant denial for more than two decades now. God only knows when will it become a responsible state or drop even lower than Somalia’s rating ? Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 26, 2011 - 12:35AM

    Establishment conduct : Chor Machay Shor.Recommend

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