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In-camera session: Govt asked to review relations with US
Resolution calls for cutting Nato supplies in case of a repeat of raid; independent commission to probe incursion.
A military convoy heads towards the National Assembly for the joint sitting of Parliament. PHOTO: EXPRESS
ISLAMABAD:
Pakistani lawmakers unequivocally condemned US unilateral action in Abbottabad and called for a review of the country’s terms of engagement with the United States in a resolution passed after an almost 10-hour marathon joint session of Parliament, briefed in-camera by intelligence, military and air force chiefs.
The lawmakers also warned the US against conducting unilateral operations in Pakistani territory, including drone strikes, failing which the government may consider withdrawal of transit facility to Nato/Isaf forces in Afghanistan.
After a heated debate, parliamentarians also agreed to appoint an independent commission on the Abbottabad operation to fix responsibility and recommend necessary measures to ensure that such an incident does not recur.
The composition of the commission would be settled after consultations between the leader of the House and the leader of the Opposition, the resolution said.
Generals answer questions
Friday’s joint session set a rare precedent in Pakistan’s history,
wherein beleaguered military authorities offered themselves for accountability before the Parliament as head of the country’s most powerful intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) offered to resign in the aftermath of the Abbottabad debacle.
Director-general (DG) ISI Lt General Ahmad Shuja Pasha and deputy chief of air staff (operations) Air Marshal Mohammad Hassan briefed the parliamentarians and responded to their questions while heads of three armed forces – army, navy and air force – sat in the officials’ galleries during Friday’s closed-door session that continued late night.
“If people think that the situation can improve in case of my resignation I am ready to step down right now,” Pasha is reported to have said.
“I have already submitted my resignation to my chief (chief of army staff) and if the prime minister and the Parliament want so, I will walk out from here as a retired officer,” sources quoted DG ISI as having said in response to questions from lawmakers, mainly belonging to the opposition, over the Abbottabad fiasco.
World’s most wanted man and al Qaeda chief Osama Bin Laden was killed on May 2 in a US operation in the garrison city of Abbottabad.
The civilian and military leadership of the country claim that the US carried out this covert operation unilaterally, in violation of the country’s sovereignty.
Stealth technology
The US used stealth technology to enter into Pakistani territory and their helicopters made their way deep inside the country without being detected by country’s radar system, Air Marshal Hassan told the parliamentarians, disclosed sources privy to the briefing.
The technology, currently used only by US military, allows stealth aircraft to prevent conventional radars from detecting or tracking it effectively.
Hassan added the US flew their helicopters at much lower altitude than usual during the operation using the nap-of-the-earth flight course, also known as terrain hugging, and used the hilly terrain to remain elusive.
He claimed that the US choppers were already out of Pakistan’s air-space when the air force fighter jets were sent to intercept them.
When asked if the country’s air force has the capability to detect aircraft in case the US uses the same stealth technology, he said ‘no.’
Installing a large number of low detection radars on the western border would be very costly, and may not be possible in the near future due to financial constraints, he said.
However, he added, Pakistan has the capability to target unmanned aircraft, commonly known as ‘drones,’ used by the US in the tribal areas of the country.
Accepting failure
Most of the questions during the session, especially from the opposition benches, were directed to DG ISI.
When the ISI chief was asked about Bin Laden’s presence in the garrisoned city of Abbottabad and why the intelligence agencies failed to detect him for this long, he admitted it was his agency’s failure. However, he said, the ISI was never aware of Bin Laden’s presence in the area.
Pasha evaded questions regarding information obtained from Bin Laden’s family currently in the custody of Pakistani authorities.
He said investigations were still under way and it would not be appropriate to disclose the details at this point.
Pasha reportedly also told lawmakers that the nation has to shrug off the perception that dependence on US is vital for the country’s survival.
During background interaction, lawmakers from both the treasury and opposition appeared irked at the unsatisfactory answers provided during the briefing.
It would have been better to open the session to media since hardly any classified information was given by the military authorities, lawmakers said.
Previous briefings
Friday’s briefing was the third instance in Pakistan’s history whereby military authorities appeared before the Parliament for an in-camera session.
The scenario this time around, however, was markedly different from the previous two instances.
The first in-camera briefing was given in 1988 by the then-ISI chief Lt Gen (retd) Hameed Gul after the signing of the Geneva accord.
He had reportedly said that it was due to ISI’s successful strategy that the Soviet Union suffered a humiliating defeat in Afghanistan.
Veteran parliamentarians who were part of General Zia ul Haq’s assembly say that Gul predicted the fall of Soviet Union during the briefing and claimed the USSR would shrink to Moscow and its surrounding areas after suffering defeat at the hands of CIA and ISI trained Mujahideen.
The second in-camera session was held in 2008 when military authorities needed support of public representatives before launching the operation in Swat against the Taliban.
Addressing the media after adoption of the resolution, Nisar revealed that discussions over the content of joint resolution had terminated four times due to government’s resistance to incorporate opposition’s demand.
He said his party wanted an even more strongly worded resolution but government had certain reservations on a number of issues.
Information Minister Firdous Ashiq Awan termed the joint session which culminated into passing of a unanimous resolution as a new chapter in the history of the country.
She appreciated the commitment of all the parties represented in the parliament for passing of this resolution. She called it a success of whole nation and said that the political parties have resolved to defend the sovereignty of the country.
DG ISI accepts failure, apologises and offers to resign
Deputy air chief says US used stealth technology, Pakistan lacks capability to detect stealth aircraft
Also says Shamsi airbase not under Pakistan’s control
Lawmakers bemoan ‘unsatisfactory’ answers, say hardly any classified information divulged
Published in The Express Tribune, May 14th, 2011.
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Now the military wants to give impression that since they are under the command of GOP, responsibility of Abbotabad incident is all upon government.Recommend
You guys said DG ISI left for US in today, how come he is here ! =SRecommend
Like playing the flute in front of Cows I suppose.Recommend
With areas in Karachi having no electricity since 4 days….just look at these pathetic robbers and there parliament…lighten up with so much lights & AC’s to hide there real horrible faces
May ALLAH helps Paksitan in getting rid of these robbersRecommend
The nation should stand up against whoever are destabilizing Pakistan. We should act as a nation. India and USA are in an attempt to weaken PAK army, while our army is in a bid to safeguard PAK interests in Afghanistan. India and USA both are trying to destabilize Pakistan by feeding terrors working in Balochistan and elsewhere in Pakistan. Musharraf read this script very well and acted accordingly. Sorrowfully a section of the media and a few politicians are helping India and USA to achieve their objectives.Recommend
Nawaz Sharif not interested in countrys security? May be he is more interested in his properties in UK and else where?
IslamabadRecommend
Down with the white elephant !
Eighty of my countrymen were slayed this morning. People can keep their conspiracy theories to themselves. I am not letting my countrymen starve while these generals can play Golf, drive Land cruisers and Mercedes, have platoons of servants and the list goes on.
Enough the army has to be answerable to me. I feed them and their children. Do not say they defend me because they do not. They have their own schools, hospitals, courts, clubs.
Like someone wise said this is the only army which has a country, rather than the country having an army.Recommend
It is a mystery that rulers of PPP, ANP, MQM, PML-Q, APML, PML-N of Pakistan killed millions of Pakistanis and Afghans by supporting US-UK-NATO military operations, drone attacks and the US illegal War of Terror, but why Taliban did not attack them during 2001-2011 to seek revenge? Are Taliban working for PPP, ANP, MQM, PML-Q, APML, PML-N whose leaders are safe, but innocent Pakistanis are daily dying in the US unlawful War of Terror? All pro-war evil tyrants must be jailed to stop terrorism in Pakistan.Recommend
Elite meets behind close doors and keeps the citizens in dark as usual. What are they covering up?Recommend
Some boring slide show that would be.Recommend
Besides tens of thousands of Army Men working in the government-owned airline and other government-owned industries, Army Officers use their power to get positions in Civilian Govt. Departments and Government owned industries and civilian institutions of Pakistan including Universities. Pakistan really should be called “Army Inc.”Recommend
Yawn! Whats new?Recommend
This session should have been an open session. It’s farcical to think our MNAs will hold national secrets dear to their heart or that the contents of this briefing will not leak out.
Even the US cannot stop ‘secrets’ such as these being leaked out. Obama has admitted that details of the raid on the OBL compound were leaked the next day. All our neighbours and the US are able to listen into this session due to satellite technology so why not the Pakistani people?
Parliament containsthe peoples’ representatives and as citizens we should be seeing how they are performing at this critical time when serious questions need to be raised. We should be judging the questions and the statements of all the parties live.
Afterwards, details will inevitably be leaked and there will be room for hearsay and denial which does not serve the purpose of this nation.Recommend
What! Neglected to protect Osama Bin Laden?Recommend
@SYED ADEEB:
Taliban and religious extremists only killed leadership of PPP, ANP and other secular parties, not the other parties. BB’s procession was attacked twice with hundreds of PPP workers killed with her. Gov of Punjab and mininster Bhutti killed. I could go on and on.
Where these people killed by the army if not mullahs? Grow up and smell the coffee. Army touts after licking their wounds are now busy in diverting attention from yet another failure of army generals and their continued surrender to more powerful. The corrupt generals are so much exposed that being incompetent is their best defense.
Dr. Mirza, USARecommend
Its the same old story. Drones, Suicide Bombings, Conspiracy Theories, Terrorist Organizations, Strategic Depth, Strategic Assets, State Actors and Non State Actors.. Life goes for some, unless you are unlucky., while the Generals, Ministers roam around in Mercs with high security in luxury.
Normal Citizen, who cares.Recommend
This could be a defining moment in history of pakistan where our politicians if be united coulde tame our army and curtail their role in politics. Accepting negligence is not going to serve the purpose, ISI chief must be sent home so that It will be a lesson for next chief.Recommend
It is just like saying, I was guarding the A-Bomb facility but some thief came without my permission and stole it. It was negligence and not a failure, if some one else would have been guarding it, couldn’t be stolen. Oops my fault.
What an excuse from such a high status person!!!
If you are admitting, get an honorable discharge and create a good example. You won’t loose much as you are on extension anyway but it will create little respect for the military. And btw before leaving clean up as many personal as you can who were responsible for this, that will give you respect as well.Recommend
It happens only in Pakistan! The ISI chief, instead of explaining in specific terms what went wrong, delivers a political speech dishing out conspiracy theories. Political leadership has refused to seize the moment. Is the negligence, admitted by the ISI, about failure to detect the US incursion or about the failure to trace OBL?Recommend
I think Pak Army needs our support and we should not demoralized them. Anyone who works/talk against Pak Army or ISI is our enemy!Recommend
Ch Nisar is son of an Army Brigadier and brother of one Lt Gen and a Brig.
He is raising lot of dust and that dust, while settling, will settle the matter.Recommend
Americans coming in , killing Osama and then going back safely is / was not a security / intelligence lapse because Americans come into Pakistan everyday and kill innocent people with Hellfire Missiles and we do nothing. The big security, intelligence lapse was OBL being there for so many years. It was not ISI’s failure alone , infact it is failure of our all states security and intelligence agencies, including civilian and militaryRecommend
The fact that radar evading helicopters were used is not an acceptable answer. Every enemy wants to use stealth and element of surprise. Its time that Pakistan evaluates its own defense infrastructure. Name a single enemy in the annals of history that does not want to use stealth to hit an enemy?
Pakistan army should be forced to divest and barred from any commercial projects, such as running cornflakes factories but concentrate on their job, which is warfare and security.
Lastly Pakistan should be grateful that at least this time the goal of the US was not to neutralize its nuclear assets. There may not be a second chance for Pakistan.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and Pakistan’s defenses were caught asleep on the switch. This is no time for excuses but time for an independent commission to investigate the failures. The commission should comprise of the Chief justices and one member from each opposition party to retain the integrity of the commission and its report.Recommend
The entire setup responsible to protect Pakistan should be changed.
New people responsible to protect Pakistan should be told that they will make no mistake.Recommend
@Abbasi:
Your comments contain deep resentment against Army which most of the people breed due to less knowledge.
My dear failure and successes are part of life.
You enormously mixed up Army, Army Welfare Trust, Fauji Foundation, DHAs and so on.
Army only do professional work of soldiering only. Army is not running any commercial project.
Cornflakes are made in a factory of Fauji Foundation. No serving officer work in Fauji Foundation. Plz Google to know that who and why Fauji Foundation was made and what are its contributions.
DHAs have been developed transparently. Retired Officers work in DHAs and whenever something undesired was seen it was corrected immediately.
Plz try to say something with facts and figures and avoid emotional comments.Recommend
Great hype.. ISI housed Osama in that compound. ISI failed to detect Osama’s presence. ISI this… ISI that. Nice. Let’s agree that only a bloody fool will accommodate a thug in ones own courtyard in a country with so many remote and inaccessible areas.
Was it actually CIA’s handiwork. First placing Osama in that compound and then hunting him at the “right time” to the advantage of Obama government in the face of a failing economy and continuing failures in Afghanistan.? Why not?
And obviously Osama was tracked down by using realtime satellite video technology that only CIA possesses [and ISI doesn’t] We are forgetting that the intelligence regarding use of those SIMs by Osama’s messengers was actually supplied to CIA by ISI. Then why this fuss?
Also we all need to understand that an intelligence agency only has the means and resources to detect hidden matters…and then all it does it report the matter[s]. Job of taking corrective / remedial action remains that of forces / law enforcement agencies who do so at the command of their superiors.
Interestingly at the moment no one is prepared to tell the truth to the nation as it will only dangerously compromise the position of GOP as well as Armed Forces. No one has failed in isolation. Not GOP, not Pak Army not ISI…. They all failed. They all blundered…They all rolled imperials…Only to the advantage of US who is hell bent on furthering it’s dirty agenda in the region.
Reality is that the US Choppers flew right from inside Pakistani territory…most likely from Ghazi [Tarbella] where all sort of hardware was covertly being dumped by CIA / US during past 2-3 years. It was indeed GOP who facilitated the entry [or should we call it infiltration] of US forces’ covert elements during past 2-3 years through those free for all visas being so irresponsibly dished out by Hussain Haqani in USA with active backing of Interior ministry / GOP. It’s well known that this practice was allowed over a long period through by passing all security clearance from agencies including ISI. Remember those chartered flights that were allowed to land unchecked? Who controls the airports? ISI? No Sir. Will Rehman Malik sahib openly come up with an explanation on the subject? How conveniently even our press seems to have forgotten it all? Amazing and shocking.
The result is obvious… US used GOP to install it’s covert forces and CIA elements in bases / stations in Pakistan [many including GHAZI], successfully hoodwinked or bypassed ISI, FIA, IB [all] and at the end blackened the faces of GOP / ARMY / ISI…all. and sundry. How conveniently we we allowed them to do it is a sad affair.
Obviously Gillani Gov doesn’t wish to openly admit and reveal the facilitation that it provided to US in this regards without consulting the Army… and Army cannot openly say / blame Gillani government on it for it will only lead to undesirable confrontation and conflict that this country cannot afford at the moment. At least they seem to have understood it now…thank God.
It’s time politicians, Gov machinery and Armed forces all understand the importance of working in close coordination on matters involving internal security. Cabinet’s committee on defense matters must have regular sessions. The old myth that governments should work independently without involving military [on matters related to defense and internal security] should be done away with for present day threat to Pakistan is very different in nature. If politicians adopt a sensible approach on the subject, they will see better understanding developing between Gov and Armed forces.
All please be warned…Abbotabad incident was not the last one. We must be prepared to see the unthinkable, happening in the coming days and months. What is “UNTHINKABLE” can be understood by all who have a good understanding of the big picture, geopolitical situation and US’ real designs.
These dwarfs [I say Nawaz Sharif is one of them] do not understand that all we have is Pakistan. They need to understand the importance of involving themselves in the state matters instead of trying to gain cheap popularity by staying out. Only they have the luxury of going and living abroad in those plush mansions and villas in Europe. An ordinary citizen was born here and shall die here.
Also it’s time we tell US to pack up and get out, in plain words. Our policy of doing everything to suit US’ interests first [snce partition] has only brought us humiliation and destruction. The sooner we all understand it the better for us.
I am personally against Gillani and Zardari but as long as they demonstrate a will to keep this nation united, I shall support them to the hilt.
May Allah bless us all.Recommend
Brilliant….Recommend
The fact that the armed forces were called and they came in front of Parliament is significant and should not be down played.
If negligence is admitted then responsibility for this must be fixed and dealt with.
Gen.Pasha offered to step back if Parliament so decided. If he had tendered his resignation and left it to Parliament to accept, it would have been correct and ‘soldier like’ in my opinion.
The difference is small and yet significiant.Recommend
Why was my last comment taken off, after it was uploaded? Please?Recommend
VENOMOUS….!Recommend
And, to the stupidos of India and Pakistan….stop this rhetoric and non-sense.
It is not a must for Pakistan and India to become one country, but what is stopping the two countries from become nice friends. I want to be able to drive from Karachi to Dehli with a night stop in Lahore. Or how about driving from Karachi to Bombay.
When will I be able to do that? When I am dead due to the nuclear wars between the two countries?Recommend
While condemning the negligence and failure of the “top security agency”, we must also appreciate the fact that two of the country’s most powerful people came to parliament, to show that they are answerable to the people.
This is a great gesture which needs to be seen as it is, rather than as we would like to see it.
Even if Lt.Gen Shuja is asked to step down, eventually, I think he and Gen. Kiyani should be praised for presenting themselves and their institutions before the nation’s elected leaders (no matter how idiotic they may be).
As they say in Urdu, Guzashta ra Salwat, Ayinda ra aehtiyat
Pakistan ZindabadRecommend
The govt will get all the blame from now onward! Army did politics at their best ;)Recommend
Loool after 6 hours in camera session, you reach a conclusion of condemning the raid. Joker of a government.Recommend
Did mr pasha told what was negligence, harbouring OBL in a safe house or failingto defend Pakistan. It’s gross cruelty to provide hideout a ruthless terrorist in the country and it is utter stupities thinking that no body will come to harm him in garrison. Political leadership should be responsible and assertive at this moment and they should bring these mindless and ruthless generals under the civil commandRecommend
Did anyone in parliament also condemned Osama’s and other terrorists presence in Pakistan?Recommend
@Nurmomad:
I disagree with you. No chance should be taken on security. Next time these folks are negligent the price to pay would be such that the country may never recover from it.Recommend
@Khalid Masood:
The biggest fact is that our Armed forces were caught napping. Lastly everyone knows that Pakistan Armed forces pay more attention to these enterprises then to the job the nation pays them to do. Try reading Ayesha Siddiqui’s book and other countless articles on the subject.Recommend
“Lt General Shuja Pasha said terrorist attacks had also taken place in U.S. and India but no fingers were pointed at the intelligence agencies of the two countries.”
Extraordinary statement. This is false. Please do not fool the people of Pakistan.
For Mumbai I quote from a quick google search:
“P Chidambaram, India’s newly appointed home secretary, has admitted security and intelligence lapses in the wake of ghastly terror attack on India’s commercial and entertainment capital Mumbai. This is the first public admission by such a high officials after the Mumbai terror attack. After visiting terror struck railway station Mumbai, He appealed to general public not to be harsh on security agencies.
His predecessor Shivraj Patil forced to resign after continously failing to check the spate of terrorist attacks.”
For the US, 9/11 commission findings were reported as follows:
“U.S. intelligence gathering was fragmented and poorly coordinated before the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the 9/11 commission reported Wednesday, adding that it remains unclear how such crucial information is managed.
“A question remains: Who is in charge of intelligence?” reads the final line of a critical report by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, as the bipartisan 9/11 panel is formally known.
The report, examining the performance of the intelligence community, described a “loose collection” of intelligence agencies that often operated independently of one another with little communication or cooperation. And it faulted CIA Director George Tenet for not having a management strategy to battle terrorism before the 9/11 attacks.”
It is absolutely correct to hold the DG ISI to account. He was right to consider resignation. Why did he not do so? If we have ghairat, it should not be just mere words. They don’t serve any purpose.Recommend
Down with these Generals and i only love the innocent people of this country who starved themselves to feed these monsters for this day. Today 80 innocents were martyred and they are still confused what to do with the terrorists.Recommend
@saeed Ahmad:
Wake up saeed Ahmad….wake up…wake up…saeed saeed, oh no ‘bichara’ saeed writes while asleep.Recommend
Where is Musharaf only he can save Pakistan. I still remember his las speech “Ab Pakistan ka Allah hi Hafiz”. He knew that this incompetent PPP, PML-N, ANP and all the other trash can do no good to the country.
Do you want to know who are the real killers of our men, women and children?
Its not America and not Taliban/Al-Qaeda, but its our very own POLITICIANS and ironically we are helping them…Recommend
I guess, this is what U.S wanted. They wanted a destabilize Pakistan and to justify what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Here we are, they have justified their invasion in Afghanistan by killing Osama. Most importantly, Pakistan army and ISI, the most corrupt free institution are under the fire of their own people just because our leader could not make a right decision on time. I am sure, Army cannot make a decision at its own for participating into some war unless or until it is supported by the government and now the same government is treating them as criminals.
There was a war in Afghanistan when Russia was there but at that time our leaders made wise decision and Pakistan gained out of it.
Now we had the same situation and just because of weak leadership, we are having entirely opposite results.
May Allah save us from these so called democratic leaders where they got 45% fake votes in 2008 elections.Recommend
The Resolution is silent over the role of ISI in OBL’s shaltering in Pakistan! What nonsense is this: the legislators condemn drone attacks over a piece of land where Pakistan Army itself cannot enter! And also raise hue and cry over the killing of the world’s most wanted terrorists! I’m sure no one right minded persons in the world will take this resolution passed by the Pakistani Parliament seriously! The world will think that this resolution is yet another nonsense “achievement” of this nation which celebrates the killing of rights activist, lynch innocent people, award capital punishment for blasphemy and openly takes pride in supporting terrorism! Pak legislators, you once failed us!Recommend
If you can’t condemn the military or intelligence service after this obvious debacle – what will it take. The World thinks you harbored the most wanted Terrorist on the planet and the American’s went through your defense screen like it wasn’t there. It’s time for a re-shuffle.Recommend
What a stunning news that Pakistan has no control over Shamsi air base (currently in USA use) because it was built by UAE Sheikh on a purchased land from Pakistan. My question as a citizen, who on earth allowed this transaction and its use against Pakistan interests. Are we then going to entertain similar requests from India, Iran and Russia. What can we call a country, selling its pieces of land to others to be used against its own interests later. UAE on their part has done nothing less than what Israel is doing with the purchased land from Palestinians.Recommend
Pakistan Military what a jokeRecommend
@S.M: i agree 100%.Recommend
Asking the Parliament, “Should I resign?” adds more disgrace than to resign (retire) and go away. After all other capable are sitting there to take position and take good decisions with out any reservations. However Parliament could not condemn Gen(retd.) Musharraf, whose covert permissions/agreements with US showed this day of shame & disgrace.Recommend
How come no local intelligence agencies of Kakul,Abottabad,police,civil administration,patwari etc remained so oblivious of Osamas’ presence and the intricate construction of the ‘compound’.That shows the national psyche;no national interest but all about one self,money,corruption,power like of our so called leaders,who have put us to shame time and again.Recommend
A complete EYEWASH AS EXPECTED out of the theater performed by the Pak Establishment & Elite nexus.Recommend
@Balma:
YesRecommend
@Usman:
You are totally wrong, when military accepted the failure on its part, then there is no question of responsibility on the government’s shoulder.Recommend
Pakistani forces should be re-tuned because it is alarming for pakistan take the situation seriously, every thing is not related to agreements, Pakistani govt is making their life tuff after death.just think and observe the thinking of pakistani govt…..
just….
just…
just…
Pakistan zindabad…
love you dream land..Recommend
We need to be careful while undermining own institutions, mostly influenced by media leaks; there must be delicate difference in criticizing a personality and the entire institution. Army/ISI constitute U and Me, no one from India, Israel or USA etc; but it depends how country’s leadership utilize these insitutions. Its same very institution which is feared by all our enemies in the World (must be for their competency), so we need to remain vigilant and also improve upon our weaknesses in the system which has been deeply penetrated by USA..Recommend
@Khalid Masood:
Are you serving or retired.Recommend
The decisions which are important for Pakistan are:
1. No respite in efforts against the terrorists.
2. Afghan Refugees to be sent back immediately.
3. Foreign Intelligence networks to be closed.
4. Review of the Pakistan, US and Afghan Policy based on new reality.
5. Achieve non alligned status.Recommend
Assalam-o-Allaikum Warahmatullah.Our corrupt and beggars leaders including key army officials have been giving such these types of cowardice and hypocritical statements from a long time and USA has been violating Pakistan’s sovereignty and integrity mostly by drone attacks and sometimes by NATO helicopters’ shelling.Nothing has changed in the past,nothing has changed in the present and nothing shall change in the future because the beggars and slaves always don’t have their own honor,grace,dignity,ego and self-respect and the most importantly the beggars and slaves are made only for obeying the commandments not for the ordering and governing.Recommend
Tilsim,
Comparing the intelligence failures of 9/11 and 26/11 with Abbattobad operation is meaningless.
Abottabod was a case of my own first born son (proud son) hiding a king cobra in my bedroom (or should it be kitchen?) without my knowledge for 5 years.
9/11 and 26/11 were the cases of mad dogs from my neighbor’s house attacking me all of a sudden. While I knew that there was a mad dog in my neighbor’s house, I couldn’t do anything, because it was my neighbor’s. There were few ways of knowing when it would jump the compound and plunge on me. But, of course, I should have kept an eye on it.
Please, comparing Abattobad and other attacks can only fool certain people.Recommend
Enough of this ridiculous drama !! Pakistan will not survive the next 5 years if US stops aid and stops weapons delivery. Try fighting against India with Chinese weapons ! The only party that needs to be punished is Pakistan – for protecting Osama. It is time to apologize and give the Americans the location of Mullah Omar.Recommend
This article claims the Deputy Air Chief said “Shamsi airbase not under Pakistan’s control”. Is this a typo? did he actually say “Shamsi airbase not under US control”?? Because if Pakistan is not in control of its own airbases that is extremely worrisome!!!Recommend
Ahh…so every complains about the drone strikes!
Someone then should correct Maj. Gen. Ghayur Mehmood, commanding general officer of the Seventh Division in Pakistan’s North Waziristan tribal region, who told newspapers:
I say enough of this ‘ghairat-brigade’ media nonsense. Whoever dispatches these murderous terrorists is doing Pakistanis a favour. Just do a public poll in KP (NWFP) and the truth will come out.Recommend
What is all this fuss about the murder of a terrorist ?
An enemy-foreigner (OBL of Yemen, Saudi, USA residence) is killed by friendly-foreigners (Americans) launching an attack from an airbase with a friendly-country (Shamsie airbase under UAE’s control).
Of course, with OBL gone, Pakistan’s monthly pension from Uncle Sam is gone too..that must be the real concern.Recommend
Its time to motivate our army instead of blaming them for faliure. Having ISI in Pakistan doesnt guarantee they know each and every terrorist activity happening in Pakistan. Their job is to keep vigilance and action upon having concerete evidence about presence of terroists in some locality. And as far as American Operation is concerned it was a total faliure of our air defence and armed forces which failed to detect the american chooppers. Think if they attack some day at our nuclear installations and we will be sleeping without smelling the danger.Recommend
@Butt
I guess you are paranoid!
@Saeed Ahmad: Brilliant piece, but devoid of facts.
You will be a great success as an author if you take up writing fiction in future.
A new Tom Clancy!Recommend
It is time to stand against these Pro American Policies. We have spent hell lot of budget on this so called war on terror even though it was not ours. But this we can’t expect this from current ruling members.
In current situation Imran khan is Pakistan best chance. I hope this time people of Pakistan will as a Nation not as Individual.
Pakistan will remain same if we will continue our old habits.
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lesson from the whole show is not to bypass parliament and review all pervious agreements in parliament. to save Pakistan from any future ammbersment, stop buracratic style of governence and all institutions should be anwerable in front of parliament. media and courts can play their role in praising or critsizing acts of parliament but they should not support any interferance in parliamentary system. senate elections r coming and next year will be last year of elected government. smoth transition to democracy and respect of parliament is the only way through which Pakistan can act as a responsible state.Recommend
and who should be thse people? Where will they come from? Mars? :) @Cheeko Beeko:Recommend
What next? is this resolution itself enough, or need practical exercise
to make Pakistan free from Obama&Osama elements.Recommend
Rather than offering to resign (knowing the ruling PPP is to cowardly to accept it), General pasha should do the honorable thing and just resign. But hang on, Generals are never known to resign, so…Recommend
So who’s the fall guy?
Pasha cleared.
Kayani cleared.
Who is at fault?
Zardari & prime minister!
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@Hissam Amir Khan:
Musharraf is a traitor, a thief, it was his policy of cooperation to give bases in Pakistan, unilaterly, without even consulting his Core Commanders. Now he is self exile after stealing from the Pakistani’s. If Musharraf is a Patriot, he should come and live in Pakistan.
Also how much does a Pakistani General make to be able to have permanent residences in, Pakistan, Britain, Dubai and Texas (USA).
Do not be delirious about Musharraf. Pakistan needs to find totally new leadershipRecommend
@Abbasi:
Still emotional response that everybody know bla bla bla…………………………
PAF is the defender of air space of Pakistan. I assure you PAF do not sleep. They work round the clock. But their radars cannot see through hills and ground features.
ISI was suppose to pick up the information of such operation prior to its launch but US authorities kept it highly secrets. It can be termed as failure on part of ISI.
Now if US stealth helicopter have come flying nap of earth, they cannot be detected by PAF Radars as most of low looking radars are guarding eastern border with India.
It was unimaginable that OBL was hiding in Pak and US Forces will launch such operation.
US SEAL Team was very lucky.
I have gone through Ayesha Siddiqa book “Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy” in details and have written a brief on this as well. This book is net sum of deep resentment, lack of knowledge and information and biased conclusions. I do not agree with Dr SiddiqaRecommend
@Balma: Balma Dear..Takemy word.. you are thinking the impossible.Recommend
@Khalid Masood:
Good you came up with it.Recommend
What is future of a Nation whose lands are being purchased and private bases are built, used against them self. Whose Generals past and present are making agreements with hostile forces.Those who are making mistakes, there is no court marshal but extension of services. Rulers who can punish the negligent and selfish ones, are excusing them just because they are also mal-background. so Makafat-e-Amal will show it own course now and we all will witness it.Recommend
Can any body Please explain real meanings of “close door sessions” in this era of technolgical advancement.
We are still leaving in fool’s paradise. The other day I watched leader of JUI (F) disclosing whole proceeding of “close door session to the parliamentarians on private news channel.
it is better to enjoy than to “resist”. You know what I mean?
MussaratRecommend
@SYED ADEEB:
very good Adeeb, Go ahead against corrupt pakistani rulers and politiicians who are playing double game and allowing innocent peoples to be killed.
mussarat.Recommend
So OBL was ‘killed’ in Abbotabad? And the picture of him ‘dead’ graced Pakistani papers?
So how come this: Guardian pics
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake
OBL is widely believed to have died in December 2001.
Why on earth do you believe ANYTHING the Luciferian US Administration tells you, or for that matter the GOP or ISI (how many of them are covert Masons?)?
Wise up; 9/11 was an ‘Inside Job’. OBL had nothing to do with it (indeed he told Al Jazeera a few days after 9/11 that he had nothing whatsoever to do with the 9/11 attack (and why would he lie? Had he been responsible for it, he would have been proud of it, and would have threatened more such attacks unless US got out of Saudi Arabia etc.
Audio and video tapes implicating OBL? Leave me out! Any serious analysis proves these are as fake as US/NATO abhorrence of ‘civilian deaths’ in Libya (or Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Palestine, Honduras, Haiti etc etc.
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