India rejects Pakistan's call for plebiscite in Indian Kashmir

Published: September 3, 2015
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Pakistan is not focused on development, does not think about its citizens, says Lok Sabha speaker. PHOTO: PTI

Pakistan is not focused on development, does not think about its citizens, says Lok Sabha speaker. PHOTO: PTI

India rejected on Wednesday Pakistan’s call for a plebiscite in Indian-held Kashmir and lashed out at Islamabad for raising the issue at the United Nations.

Terming Pakistan’s call for voting in Indian-held Kashmir as ‘irrelevant’ at the Fourth World Conference of Speakers, India asserted that the state is an integral part of the country and its citizens have willingly chosen a democratically-elected state government, according to NDTV.

“Pakistan must know that this is the platform of the Inter-Parliamentary Union where the 2030 development agenda is being discussed,” Lok Sabha Speaker Sumitra Mahajan said, while rejecting Pakistan’s call to discuss the matter in the United Nations, Press Trust of India reported.

“Pakistan representative’s remarks on the issue in the UN are totally irrelevant,” she added.

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Meanwhile, Murtaza Javed Abbasi, acting speaker for Pakistan’s National Assembly in his speech said, “It is time” for the people of Indian-held Kashmir to be given a chance to exercise their right to self-determination which can only be done through an independent and impartial plebiscite under the UN.”

Expressing disagreement with Abbasi, Mahajan believed that Pakistan is bringing up the Indian Kashmir issue at a UN platform out of habit as it has done so in the past as well and is creating an issue which does not exist.

“Pakistan should keep in mind that the people of Indian Kashmir have voted to elect their state government. What can be more democratic than this,” she said, while rejecting Pakistan’s call for a plebiscite.

According to Mahajan, Pakistan was drifting away from the main agenda of the conference, that is development.

However, keeping in mind the objective of the conference, Abbasi during his speech stated that “outstanding disputes” like Indian-held Kashmir create disputes in South Asia, thus preventing the region from realising “its tremendous economic and social potential.”

Mahajan nevertheless, failed to agree as she said, “They are not focused on development. They are not thinking about their citizens and how development should take place in Pakistan. But instead every now and then they try to raise only one issue.”

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Reinstating his stance, Abbasi claimed that Indian-held Kashmir has been internationally recognised as a disputed territory, underwritten by several United Nations resolutions thus the matter is in no way irrelevant.

“The Kashmiri people have waited for too long for their just and inalienable right to self-determination. Peace in South Asia is an imperative not only for the people of that region but also for the citizens of a globalised world,” he added.

This article originally appeared on NDTV

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  • Tony Singh
    Sep 3, 2015 - 2:36PM

    Why not plebiscite in Pakistan controlled Kashmir to start with?Recommend

  • Asim Ali
    Sep 3, 2015 - 2:38PM

    Nack for diverting issues. That is the Indian way. And subservient to India is the Pak politicians wayRecommend

  • Asad
    Sep 3, 2015 - 2:47PM

    India should not hesitate in holding plebiscite as honourable representative of Lok Sabha said people of Kashmir have chosen Local Government in Kashmir democratically, so India should be confident.
    The most densely militarized area in the world must be in Antarctica then.Recommend

  • KEVIN MATHEW
    Sep 3, 2015 - 3:32PM

    “Pakistan must know that this is the platform of the Inter-Parliamentary Union where the 2030 development agenda is being discussed,”

    “Pakistan should keep in mind that the people of Indian Kashmir have voted to elect their state government.

    They are not focused on development. They are not thinking about their citizens and how development should take place in Pakistan. But instead every now and then they try to raise only one issue.”

    What else u want???????????????????Recommend

  • z
    Sep 3, 2015 - 3:40PM

    This is not a favourable time for plebiscite. India is planting its retired personnel with families in Kashmir. Once they feel they are in right number then they will conduct such things. Nothing surprising, they are cunning. Recommend

  • Juggernaut
    Sep 3, 2015 - 3:59PM

    India conducts free and fair election in Kashmir with voter turnout around 70%, it is integral part of India. No question of Plebicite.Recommend

  • Abrar Tariq
    Sep 3, 2015 - 4:00PM

    Weldome Abbasi.. You are spot on. This type of pressure on India, was absent during PPP government. I am PTI supporter, but i support this move by our government. Keep on doing and mention this issue at every international event and make india feel uncomfortable, Sensitize the world about Kashir Issue and keep on doing it.Recommend

  • Asad
    Sep 3, 2015 - 4:08PM

    @KEVIN MATHEW: As if India is focused towards growth of its people.

    @Tony Singh: Plebiscite will definitely be in complete Jummu and Kashmir. There is no issue on Pakistani side. Between your idea is good Pakistan should think about it, conduct a plebiscite under UN on its side so that half of the controversy is over. The results will definitely put India under pressure. Thumbs up to your suggestion.Recommend

  • Usman
    Sep 3, 2015 - 4:15PM

    Finally, finally some competent diplomatic manoeuvring by Pakistan. Overdue. Recommend

  • Meghana
    Sep 3, 2015 - 4:20PM

    @Asad: india doesn’t need to prove any country anything. Indian democracy don’t run on whims and fancy of other country. 70% of jk public have voted and elected their govt in indian democracy. Hundred paid so called activist call to boycott election fell on deaf ears. They weren’t able to curb them from exercising their right and choice “india”.
    And it’s dense with military becahse kargil, cross border voilation, and infiltration of millitants from border takes place. If army is taken off another kargil will happen no thanks.Recommend

  • Ghulaam
    Sep 3, 2015 - 4:20PM

    Kashmir, by all means, is a disputed territory just like the state of Israel. Islamabad needs smart diplomats. Recommend

  • Point
    Sep 3, 2015 - 4:49PM

    @Meghana:
    So then you need not to worry if Pakistan is taking the issue to Kashmir. Why is india showing so much worry by arresting Kashmiri Leaders and making every effort to prevent their voice heard. If nothing is wrong Kashmiris in India will oppose it. Your worries itself are making it a reason to worry that things are not right in Kashmir. Recommend

  • SB
    Sep 3, 2015 - 5:03PM

    Only dispute over J&K is that Pakistan’s illegal occupation of PoK. The issue will resolve once PoK is integrated with the rest of Kashmir and comes under Indian control. Anything else is Pakistan’s imaginations. Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Sep 3, 2015 - 5:21PM

    Another example of typical Indian low mentality…..Indian stance on Kashmir is the most irrelevant thing.Recommend

  • Vectra
    Sep 3, 2015 - 5:29PM

    World doent look through the same prism as pakistan do,this will do nothing but will only frustrate and irritate other foreign nations.No one anyways takes pakistan seriously.So Speaker mahajan is right just reject them they are toothless who cant do anything except crying and behaving like a child.Recommend

  • sana
    Sep 3, 2015 - 6:12PM

    @Tony Singh:
    sure, lets have one in whole kashmir under UN supervision without both govts.Recommend

  • Asif
    Sep 3, 2015 - 6:57PM

    kashmiri sapatrests fooling pakistani awam, they will never merge with pakistan . If in any stituation there is a voting and they will vote for free kashmir, pakistan will not only loose pak held kashmir but also Boluchstan and some other of its parts.only pakistani politicians and army is getting benifit by diverting public attantion from real issues, pakistani awam are paying high price for kashmir what a foolish forigin policy.Recommend

  • Asif
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:00PM

    Why not in Boluchistan and Sindh?Recommend

  • Aamir - Toronto
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:00PM

    @Tony Singh…..we don’t mind but its the people of Indian held Kashmir demanding for plebiscite. If you have any shame left in you then read the “white paper” which was published by India in 1948 where your government agreed to conduct a plebiscite. Recommend

  • ares
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:03PM

    Why is Pakistani speaker talking about kashmir to India? Arent they supposed to talk to Hurriyat before talking about Kashmir?Recommend

  • Asif
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:12PM

    India should not miss this apportunity, call for plebiscite in Indian and pak held Kashmir under UN supervision, what they want become live with Bharat or with Pakistan,only fools ill chose pakistan even pakistani safocating in this country.Recommend

  • stars
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:46PM

    Dear pakistanis first take back the kashmiri land you gifted to your new masters.Recommend

  • Miristan
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:48PM

    Why India is hassitant to call for refrundum ? They know the answer.Recommend

  • ashish
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:50PM

    Dear Pakistans first you claim Jammu and Kashmir is disputed. Then you guys build projects with China on a disputed territory and then you shamefully ask India for plebiscite..Since you say it is dispute according to you then there should be no projects on a disputed territory.Recommend

  • Abrar Tariq Khyber agency
    Sep 3, 2015 - 9:17PM

    @Asif sindh and blochistan ? Really? why not indian held Tamil Nadu , asam and other provinces ? There are 2 dozen separatist movements going on in indian held states, stop illegal occupation, india is number one country in poverty , there is only one way to remove poverty in india, and that is empower people and it is only possible when you divide india, in different countries according to the wishes of indian separatists. Time to help and arm these sepatarists. This wil be a good step to remove poverty from world’s most “Gareeb” country, india. Recommend

  • Union Jack
    Sep 3, 2015 - 10:50PM

    This is not new. Pakistani diplomats are only concerned about Kashmir and not concerned about getting development and investment to their people. Even UN is immune to such rants from Pakistan, nobody even blinks eye to such futile attempts by Pakistani diplomats. They are the most ignored people in the UN.Recommend

  • Naeem Khan
    Sep 3, 2015 - 11:00PM

    According to the UN, Kashmir is disputed territory and never is considered integral part of India, it is wishy washy thinking of Indians. Above all what kind of credibility the State of India has when their own leaders has committed themselves in the UN to have plebiscite in Kashmir, perhaps they should look up the history and start blaming Nehru for committing. How could we ever trust Indian leaders who say one thing one day and turn around and say the opposite the next day. Kashmir is a problem and UN observers are stationed on the Kashmir border between India and Pakistan. Lately Indian are refusing to allow UN observers to witness the border violations. More over Indians brags about their democracy and preach the others but yet they refuse to allow the international press to go to Kashmir and report to the world the true nature of the occupation of Kashmir by Indian Army. Why are Indians so afraid to have world press go into Indian held Kashmir and look at their DEMOCRACY , Indians know and we know that they have committed some horrendous atrocities there, they have killed more than 100,000 Kashmiris in the last 10 years and not to speak of countless raps of their women folks by the Indian Army. Up to date no one from the Army has been prosecuted for the raps and the atrocities they have committed against the unfortunate Kashmiris. The world knows that Kashmir is a destabilizing factor in South Asia and the recent skirmishes on the Kashmir border and the belligerent statement by Indian Generals and politicians is igniting the fires which they won’t be able to control it because it might comes down to the survival of the Pakistani nation. Kashmir problem should be settled as promised in the UN by Indian prime minister Nehru, give those people the right to determine their own fate. Why are Indians so afraid of plebiscite, if there is democracy in Kashmir as Indians claim then Kashmiris will vote to stay in Indian controlled democracy. Indians damn well what the outcome will be after killings and raping their women. Recommend

  • Cosmo
    Sep 4, 2015 - 12:15AM

    @Point:
    Its our country, you can invite the Huriyat to your country and do whatever you want to do. May be next time your government should arrange a meeting with Baluch separatists in Islamabad. Recommend

  • Cosmo
    Sep 4, 2015 - 12:18AM

    Resolution also says, Pakistan has to completely vacate the occupied Kashmir before plebiscite can be held. Pakistan did not do it and hence no plebiscite. Lot of water has flown under the bridge. Its not 1948 and therefore, Kashmir has now become an “atoot anag” of India and will always be. Recommend

  • Saif
    Sep 4, 2015 - 9:05AM

    will china allow plebisite in the region which pakistan has surrendered to her ? Don’t pakistanis feel ashamed of the fact that they have given part of kashmir to china ? Is that how they are going to treat kashmiris ? Recommend

  • hari
    Sep 4, 2015 - 9:47AM

    @Point:
    Because of the same feeling Pakistanis get if India raisesvthe issue of pleibescent for Baluchistan, Sindhudesh, Pashtunisthan etc. In UN.!Recommend

  • Ash Kumar
    Sep 4, 2015 - 3:19PM

    But what about the part of J & K which Pakistan gifted to China? Will you take it back for referendum? What about the FATA and other regions which were cut off from the original J & K as it existed in 1947? What about the Kashmiri Pandits who were driven out? Don’t they have the right to vote? India hasn’t meddled with the demography of it’s J & K. Recommend

  • Kushal
    Sep 4, 2015 - 3:27PM

    Was there any plebiscite before partition of India. Was there any plebiscite before division of Punjab and Bengal ? If not, then why in the case of Kashmir. Recommend

  • Fawad Jan
    Sep 4, 2015 - 9:12PM

    i am feeling very sorry for the innocent people of Jammu and Kashmir, why they suffer, why to not give them a Free Country. why india is so afraid of small kashmir, are they afraid of that kashmir will be a second pakistan for them. let make kashmir a free and independent country. one thing another the azad kashmir is very small and the people of azad kashmir is no more kashmiri now they are also pakistani, if you want to seprate them from pakistan, they will never do it. but pakistan is always ready for free kashmir. let free themRecommend

  • Mohsin
    Sep 4, 2015 - 10:53PM

    India is afraid that they gona lose Kashmir if free and fair rafrandom held in Indian occupied Kashmir under UN supervision.Recommend

  • Sandip
    Sep 5, 2015 - 6:39AM

    @Asad: As far as India is concerned the only unfinished agenda from partition is for either Pakistan to withdraw to the boundaries it got on 14th August, 1947 or be pushed out to it. The choice is entirely Pakistan’s. As regards UN or anyone else, India cares 2 hoots about anyone when it comes to protecting it”s territortial integrity. We didn’t care when we were much weaker. It would be a senile man to think that we would care today.Recommend

  • peace
    Sep 5, 2015 - 10:27AM

    No one is obligated to do anything. Neither side is budging an inch. The dead don’t get any pity or concern. Humanity is dead. There’s prospect for more violence, not peace.

    I am so sad today.Recommend

  • SKChadha
    Sep 5, 2015 - 10:48AM

    United Nations Development Program (UNDP) used the fairness of J&K’s election as model for world to follow for free and fair election management. The observers of over 20 member nations of UN have watched and learned from J&K experience to adopt it as model of free and fair elections. What plebiscite the Pakistan is demanding?Recommend

  • SNKN
    Sep 5, 2015 - 12:37PM

    To all Indian whiners… the Kashmir territory was declared disputed via the UN Resolution 242 filed by India… Nehru to be precise…therefore a demand of plebiscite is fully justifiable… So read up your own history and stop watching too much Bollywood garbage … a make-believe fantasty world…. Indian held Kashmir is the most militarized territory in the World.. as per the Defense experts…. why because India can only control it through force and not by the willl of the Kashmiris… Whoever has quoted 70 percent voted in favour of Current govt. should know that it was in Jammu Valley only… only a small area where India and the pundits have some following…

    We will talk about Assam, Manipur, Bengal and Sikh separatist movements on another day…..

    Get off your Bollywoodesque vision of the world and smell the coffee… The reality is not good for IndiaRecommend

  • AB
    Sep 5, 2015 - 4:37PM

    Pakistan must first hold a plebiscite in Balochistan and Sind before demanding anything.Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Sep 8, 2015 - 12:35AM

    Before raising the issue of plebiscite with India, Pakistan should show guts to conduct one in PoK (Pakistan occupied Kashmir) under proper UN supervision to find out whether Kashmiri people in that part of Kashmir are at least willing to remain in Pakistan or would prefer reunion with India! The result is a foregone conclusion!Recommend

  • Shaikh Mohommad
    Jan 5, 2016 - 10:22PM

    Yes, we should condemn all crimes. Is it not a crime to hold people against their will? Why not Indian Government ascertain the wishes of people in Kashmir and allow them to decide their fate i.e. to remain in India or not? Will Indian Government allow the people
    of Kashmir their right to decide their fate?Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jan 8, 2016 - 7:48AM

    @Mr. Shaikh Mohommad:
    First of all, pl read this report!
    https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/files/chathamhouse/field/field_document/Kashmir%20Paths%20to%20Peace.pdf
    You will, probably for the fist time, that majority on both sides of the border doesn’t want to be in Pakistan and the demand by more than 50% people for ‘Azad Kashmir’ is only in 4 out of 18 districts. That should shut many mouths.
    Next! Have you studied the 1948 resolution of Security Council? May be not. I have. It clearly states that step 1 is for Pakistan to vacate the area it has occupied by its Army as well as the so called tribesmen. AFTER THAT (& ONLY AFTER THAT) India needs to withdraw its forces. Only after that, India was to conduct plebiscite in 1948! Did Pakistan vacate Kashmir? No, Suree!!
    Nobody in Pakistan studies the issue. Only talks!Recommend

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