Going for the jugular: India will never forget Kargil war, says Musharraf

Published: May 18, 2015
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Says APML will take part in upcoming LG polls and general elections. PHOTO: AFP

Says APML will take part in upcoming LG polls and general elections. PHOTO: AFP

KARACHI: Former military ruler General Pervez Musharraf said India would never be able to forget the Kargil war as his armed forces “caught the enemy by the throat”.

“India would never be able to forget the three-month-long battle [Kargil war] when our gallant armed forces caught the enemy by the throat,” he made the remarks while addressing the swearing-in ceremony of the office-bearers of his All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) youth-wing in Karachi on Sunday.

Pakistan had won the battle in 1999 but the then Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) government converted the success into a political defeat, asserted Musharraf, who was elected in army uniform as the 10th president of Pakistan in 2001.

He claimed that the Pakistan Army along with the second-line force had entered Kargil district of Kashmir and took over key strategic positions at five locations, four of which were not even known to the Indian forces.

“India had barely reclaimed half of the territory in one area,” he said, adding, “It was the greatest military victory against India, but regrettably Pakistani politicians wasted this opportunity.”

Lashing out at the PML-N government on its performance in the current tenure the APML chief said the country which is full of resources has come to a dead end due to bad governance.

“What democracy has given this country since the time of my departure?” he questioned, and went on to say, “The public in general does not care about the system of governance,  democracy or dictatorship, people only want peace and prosperity in Pakistan and accountability of corrupt politicians.”

He announced that the APML will participate in the upcoming local bodies as well as general elections, especially in the administrative territory of Gilgit-Baltistan.

‘Indian hand’ in terrorism

The ex-chief of army staff claimed that the Indian spy agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was directly involved in Balochistan and Karachi unrest.

“Indian embassies in Afghanistan are functioning as training headquarters of terrorists, the evidences of which have been provided to the Afghan government,” he said.

Published in The Express Tribune, May 18th, 2015. 

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Reader Comments (89)

  • May 18, 2015 - 10:03AM

    Musharraf saheb you had refused to accept the dead bodies of your army soldiers in Kargil war stating that they are not from Pak army though none believed you. Lying is one of the main characteristic developed by you though you may call as strategy. But it erodes the crediilityRecommend

  • Ashraf
    May 18, 2015 - 10:06AM

    This is exactly the phraseology used by the gernails to justify every single loss. Unfortunately, in the age of internet, this churan will not be digested so easily.Recommend

  • Nik
    May 18, 2015 - 10:14AM

    By Musharraf’s logic, India will also not forget Bangladesh war. Pakistan army succesfully divided their own country into two and thus taught India a lesson.Recommend

  • bharat
    May 18, 2015 - 10:25AM

    Mr Musharraf you know very well that the whole Kargil war was a futile exercise. The two countries can prosper and move ahead but people like you will never let them.
    What will take a few peaks achieve for Pakistan ?

    Thankfully,most Pakistani people are pro developmentRecommend

  • Ali S
    May 18, 2015 - 10:26AM

    Pakistan is better off without belligerent pseudo-enlightened people like him.Recommend

  • ZAK
    May 18, 2015 - 10:37AM

    Looks like he still has not forgotten the ill conceived adventure called Kargil. Even after so many years he continues to sulk about it.Recommend

  • Saleem
    May 18, 2015 - 10:39AM

    The news was not so interesting as all know that Sharif lost the war on political front. However, Interesting to read ‘burnt’ Indian trolls in the comments.Recommend

  • bilal
    May 18, 2015 - 10:40AM

    if he still cant understand how wrong kargil was and on how many fronts he needs a lobotomy.
    Infact the political government saved Musharrafs backsideRecommend

  • Tony Singh
    May 18, 2015 - 10:48AM

    ““It was the greatest military victory against India, but regrettably Pakistani politicians wasted this opportunity.””

    Yeah with 4k+ Pakistani forces dead and Mushraff prodding Sherief to go to USA so that losses could be cut, its a great victory indeed. May Pakistan be blessed with such victories in the future tooRecommend

  • Hassan
    May 18, 2015 - 10:48AM

    Delusional, is the word comes to mind when listening and reading Musharraf.

    Kargil, for what he bears full responsibility and probably will never be held to account.

    The only reason he even has temerity to say what democracy has done is because of failed politicians. But lets be clear Musharraf had his time and it will not come again.

    To even claim that times were better in his days because of him is a joke – Pakistan was milking off billions of dollars from the Afghan war and Musharraf made no effort in trying to make any structural reforms in fundamental sectors, like education, health and energy etc.Recommend

  • Human
    May 18, 2015 - 10:48AM

    @p r sharma:
    they were not from Pak army……NLI was not a part of the army but was a paramilitary force………and it only got involved once indian migs crossed LOC into Pakistani territoryRecommend

  • Corrs
    May 18, 2015 - 10:49AM

    @Nik:
    Haha, Amazing comment ! Too good !Recommend

  • Pak
    May 18, 2015 - 10:51AM

    Lol, just look at the comment section just like their population the Indians are taking over with their rants and complaints and butt hurt feelings of grief that they lost war in Kargil. Jobless Indians, tell your modi to get you employment so you don’t waste time and give rating to this channel.Recommend

  • RD
    May 18, 2015 - 10:57AM

    What has war given either to India or Pakistan ? These are just futile political statements with no growth included because of this.Recommend

  • SB
    May 18, 2015 - 10:59AM

    Okay. So intruding into enemy territory when NO ONE is there and run away when faced with resistance is something you call “the greatest military victory”??? Wow! These Pakistani generals are really brave-hearts :) Recommend

  • shamprasad
    May 18, 2015 - 10:59AM

    Parvez Musharaf is like bull in a china shop& he carries his china also.India gave severe drubbing for his adventure.At that time he refused to accept bodies of his own soldiers who laid down their life for his stupid adventure.By nature he is a war monger & bringing him back to powe will further impoverish Pakistan. He has a pathalogical dislike for India & should have been consigned to mental asylum for his madness & his foolhardy dreams that he can defeat india. He bit off a bit too much than what he could digest. Rightly the people of pakistan consigned him to dustbin of History. The present generation on both sides certainly donot want to carry the baggage of Partition wounds & wishes to stay away from rants of people like Musharaf. It will be great if Pakistan & India can join hands to further trade & commerce to advance for mutual benefits. For this Pakistan has to generate confidence by handing over terrorists like Dawood Ibrahim,lakhvi,Hafeez Sayeed etc.It cannot run with hares & also hunt with hounds.Recommend

  • AVMPolpot
    May 18, 2015 - 10:59AM

    ” India will never forget Kargil war, ”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
    India will never forget its victory and Pakistan will never forget its public humiliation!Recommend

  • welt
    May 18, 2015 - 11:08AM

    Every time this dummkopf is in trouble, he finds it convenient to rave and rant against India and go to some imaginary world with his troubadours.

    Time the Pakistani government lock him up in an mental asylum for goodRecommend

  • Mohammad
    May 18, 2015 - 11:13AM

    and India will never try to do the same once again with Pakistan, getting a tough lesson from Kargil.

    getting some men Shaheed for greater cause of Pakistan’s security and protection is nothing for Pakistan Army.

    It was very important to realize India that never ever try to be misadventure in Pakistan. All those crying and shouting against Musharraf… did you forget when India said we will do surgical strikes within Pakistan? …. everyday threat, everyday shelling, everyday trying to bully Pakistan..

    and the answer was Kargil… live with it as many of you won’t like it.Recommend

  • whatever
    May 18, 2015 - 11:16AM

    Indian PM went pakistan for the friendship in return he got backstabbing in he form of Kargil war. You can’t trust a backstabber even they back-stabbed their own soldiers by refusing their bodies back. even today some Pakistanis mortal remains are in Kargil. NFL infantry was wiped out in that war and it ceased to exist.Recommend

  • Zalmai
    May 18, 2015 - 11:19AM

    Besharaf opens his big mouth again. He is the mouse that roared. Recommend

  • Aschraful Makhlooq PK
    May 18, 2015 - 11:24AM

    Indians don’t rejoice overmuch because the India’s victory’s credit goes to only and only Nawaz Sharif on Kargil who met Bill Clinton and withdrew its forces.Recommend

  • Prakash
    May 18, 2015 - 11:25AM

    I read all of General Pervez Musharraf’s statements with great interest. I admire his ability to cook-up facts and twist logic to suit his fanciful ideas. Kind of reminds me of my ex-girlfriend!Recommend

  • Amin
    May 18, 2015 - 11:29AM

    @Saleem: Shareef lost the war, come on buddy .. as always the civilian had to put up the sorry face of defeatRecommend

  • Meshuga
    May 18, 2015 - 11:34AM

    I am surprised as to the level of modesty displayed by Mr. Musharraf, so uncharacteristic of his usual braggadocio. He could also have claimed the following achievements. (1) He overthrew a democratically elected government and is now being charged with treason for that; (2) he sent his army into a cave in Balochistan to kill their Baloch leader Bugti (no diplomacy and other niceties of a democracy); (3) for being labeled a strongman, his inaction helped worsen the sectarianism within the country (he took action only when e himself was targeted); (4) An analysis published in Dawn last year rubbished his claim that the economy performed strongly under his regime. A few years back he was running around the US in his book promotion while at the same time attacking the US for perfidy.He has what we call chutzpah! As a Mohajir (born in Delhi), he was trying to prove his bona fides as a super-patriot in a country where some treat his community as second class citizens.Recommend

  • Meshuga
    May 18, 2015 - 11:49AM

    The point that Pakistanis have been indifferent as to the system of governance (democracy or dictatorship) is not born out by facts. It is only the army generals like Musharraf, who overthrew democratically elected governments, who make those self-serving statements. What governance skills and electoral legitimacy does an army general (“my way or the highway”)bring that are superior to a civilian government? Charges of corruption are easily flung by critics. Civilian government can be thrown out if not accountable. Can the army? Wasn’t Osama Bin Laden given permission to live in Abbotabad during the regime of the good General, while he was two-facedly assuring the Americans – and taking in billions of dollars – that he was not in Pakistan. What a double-dealing bald-faced liar!.Recommend

  • satender rajput
    May 18, 2015 - 12:25PM

    He is the reason that we and Pakistan are still fighting, otherwise vajpayee and shareef were going to solve all issues. He derailed the peace process. Recommend

  • VASAN
    May 18, 2015 - 12:26PM

    India can never forget Kargil war for
    1. The great Pak army disowned all the dead bodies of its army
    2. Nawaz got a dressing down from Clinton and withdrew because of the pressure. He went to ask Clinton to stop the air strikes from India which Pak couldnt digest.
    3. Nawaz got thrown out at the end of the fiasco and lived in asylum in Saudi
    4. Mush is providing all entertainment

    And above all Pak lost kargil and also Siachen. No takers for its argument about Siachen. Great victory indeed, Lost Kargil and SiachenRecommend

  • Minerva
    May 18, 2015 - 12:35PM

    It is as if saying “I brutally attacked someone, but they didnt know that”.

    Truth is that India is never going to forget any war against Pakistan especially 1971 war. Recommend

  • Irshad Ahmed
    May 18, 2015 - 12:39PM

    Dear former president,

    It was not victory of Pakistan and not need of that time; it was the time of religious extremism and need to defeat it. but our forces direction was totally outstanding and fighting with the people of india. The kargile war was not raised by India; it was international policy which destroyed the democratic governance and converted in martial law.Kashmir issues was not resolved in your tenures, 02 national hero were killed in your tenure,mammoth economy rolling in your era; first ever is Pakistan this kind of aid is given to Pakistan; because you government is succeeded to kill the national hereos of Balochistan and Sindh.

    I dont think that your assumption on basis on truth.Recommend

  • Malatesh
    May 18, 2015 - 1:06PM

    I wish the same ‘success’ for Pakistan again in future… Recommend

  • Sneha
    May 18, 2015 - 1:11PM

    Ofcourse we won’t forget a war we won. You lost kargil, Siachen and even your men, eventually disowning them. The misadventure gained nothing for you, instead damaged your country standing in world. Recommend

  • Iqbal
    May 18, 2015 - 1:17PM

    The Kargill war sparing many surprises. 1. Backstabbing. 2. Disowning the action. 3. Refusal to even accept the dead bodies of ones own soldiers: hear hear Musharraf was The General. 4. Admitting to NDTV that the operation was a mistake. 5. Now claiming that he accomplished something great.

    The General never ceases to surprise, to great amusement of all counties, and great shame of Pakistan.Recommend

  • May 18, 2015 - 1:23PM

    @satender rajput:
    Absolute reality. An opportunity lost becasue of this criminal.Recommend

  • Demolition Woman
    May 18, 2015 - 1:31PM

    Granted India was caught off guard, as sneak attacks are wont to do, this does not justify the claim that India had its jugular exposed. But at the end of the day, Pakistan had its gonads squeezed, and squeezed mightily, by this fiasco. Just like the fiasco of Mr Musharraf’s return to politics. Unfortunately, Mr Musharraf cannot ( and using one of his favorite phrases ) “game-plan” for toffee and should just focus on his ‘outstanding musculature’.Recommend

  • Salman
    May 18, 2015 - 1:35PM

    To all champions of democracy:

    “What democracy has given this country since the departure of Pervez Musharraf?”Recommend

  • Sharath Chandra
    May 18, 2015 - 1:39PM

    Nearly 17 years later can anybody tell what Pakistan achieved in this conflict except making a lot of widows.Recommend

  • Avinash Chaudhary
    May 18, 2015 - 1:41PM

    We will certainly not forget Kargil but it seems Ex President Mushrraf has forgotten 1971.Recommend

  • James
    May 18, 2015 - 1:52PM

    Musharraf is better entertainer than Kapil Sharma in terms of comedy. I agree with my fellow Pakistanis that Pakistani comedians are best compared to Indians, e.g. Musharraf, Zaid Hamid, etc…….Recommend

  • Mango man
    May 18, 2015 - 1:59PM

    Mush and his Army friends need to justify their existence, after having lost every war that they started and got Whipped! How else can they explain their failed exploits to their dumb countrymen except for denials and conspiracies! Remember 1948, !965 and 1971, the last broke the two-nation theory into pieces! Loser! Recommend

  • BOL
    May 18, 2015 - 2:07PM

    To all my Pakistani Friends and Ever trolling and Jobless Indian Trolls
    Weather u like it or not but whatever General PM has saiid is True! We had the Indians by their necks. No wonder the then Indian DG MO would ring his counterpart everyday to beg them to find a solution to the issue and safe India from utmost embarrassment. More then 10k Indian soldiers got killed. The situation got so tense for Indian Army that they had to send drunken soldiers to reclaim lost territory..it was a indeed a great strategic move until NS stepped in (to safe his business deals with India) and spoiled the show! It was here when we lost soldiers who never wanted to retreat. Now weather the war was good or bad is another question and debate. And for My trolls, plz see what’s happening around you with another lens as the lens provided to u is dovetailed by your Govt and ur media.Recommend

  • Last Word
    May 18, 2015 - 2:37PM

    Unfortunately, no General in Pakistan has ever apologised to the nation for first starting and then losing all wars with India. Kargil war was the biggest blunder done by Musharraf which badly backfired in a humiliating defeat as Indian army retrieved back ninety percent of the occupied area before ceasefire took place. The General sensing a total defeat rushed Nawaz Sharif to US for arranging a hasty ceasefire to save blushes for Pakistan. The General should consider himself extremely lucky as Modi was not the PM of India then otherwise the occupied Kashmir would have been completely liberated. Recommend

  • Marco
    May 18, 2015 - 2:38PM

    When You held us by the throat, We had you by the ballz. Remember Nawaz Sharif running off to US and begging Clinton for assistance.
    As a result of Kargil, there is less trust in India against Pakistan show of friendship. So don’t blame India if we don’t talk to you!!!Recommend

  • Gilgit Zindabad
    May 18, 2015 - 2:41PM

    Indians: firstly tell modi to construct toilets for half of your population then penetrate into our newspapers. Musharaf zindabad Pakistan Zindabad Recommend

  • Marco
    May 18, 2015 - 2:43PM

    @BOL: Dream on….Recommend

  • Khushbakt
    May 18, 2015 - 2:50PM

    This was the “greatest” victory for Pakistan? But we had been told that Pakistan taught India a lesson in 1965 and again in 1971 and now this General is claiming that Kargil was the greatest victory? Is there anything I can believe?Recommend

  • rahat
    May 18, 2015 - 3:08PM

    Amazing! looking at the comment section full of Indian filth. The general is right these people will never forget that defeat.Recommend

  • Meghana
    May 18, 2015 - 3:10PM

    @BOL:
    What exactly did you gain from kargil? If anything you lost to claim Kargil, and lost saichen. On this misadventure you gained world condemnation and isolation. Even China refused to get invovled in war with india. You lost soldiers, and for face saving on this misadventure disowned your own war dead. And now you claim it was your countrymen.
    Ofcourse india was caught by surprise since we were signing peace accords with your country in Lahore same time. We didn’t expect such sort of treachery when we were moving on Aman and shanti. But we got back stabbed by deception. One side you were signing peace accord, other side clandestinely waging war on us. Shows the character. You attack from back under garb of peace and deception not wage war from front like brave.Recommend

  • Meghana
    May 18, 2015 - 3:13PM

    @Gilgit Zindabad:
    First stop living on aid. Then advice self reliant countries like india on anything.Recommend

  • Prada
    May 18, 2015 - 3:14PM

    Hundreds of bodies of Pakistani soldiers still lie unclaimed in the mountains and this man is talking about teaching a lesson. He taught a lesson to the Pakistani foot soldiers alright.Recommend

  • Prada
    May 18, 2015 - 3:16PM

    @Gilgit Zindabad: Yes. India needs more toilets.
    But Pakistan doesn’t need them. Know why? There is no drainage, there is no water. What use are toilets? Recommend

  • rahat
    May 18, 2015 - 3:20PM

    @Marco:
    Plz keep doing it with your hands until you get fully satisfied. Recommend

  • saleem
    May 18, 2015 - 3:22PM

    Someone is trying to prop this nutcase again ……..After giving dhandhli khan a trial run in karachi …another card is being played …..Mush is giving half truths ……Vajpayee had the option of going around kargil and then the trigger happy nuts showed the nuclear card. That’s why Sharif had to go Washington …..Recommend

  • Alien1
    May 18, 2015 - 3:29PM

    @Pak: are u unemployed as well, because u commented here?Recommend

  • Alien1
    May 18, 2015 - 3:31PM

    @Mohammad: pakistan was humiliated by india in all the wars, remember we had 91000 POW’s of pakistan.Recommend

  • Alien1
    May 18, 2015 - 3:34PM

    @BOL: lolz, if people like u r the future of pakistan then u will be the next somalia…great going…Recommend

  • Human
    May 18, 2015 - 3:40PM

    @Meghana:
    lol as if india doesnt get aid..Recommend

  • immortal_soloist
    May 18, 2015 - 3:43PM

    Long live Pervez Musharraf.

    During Musharaf’s tenure we got rid of the IMF and all the loans so those talking about the aid should keep quiet as during his tenure Pakistani prospered and we were almost going to resolve the Kashmir dispute as well.

    Musharraf did a lot of great things for Pakistan that this country forgets and likes to believe all the lies and propaganda against him. Recommend

  • lol
    May 18, 2015 - 3:44PM

    “Pakistan had won the battle in 1999” – Hahaha, sorry but couldn’t continue reading after that. I forgot that pakistanis live in their own universe where pakistan is better than India, has won all wars, spent terrorists into space and all that. Seriously, I do hope there are sane pakistanis who see the reality but considering what we see everyday, those sane ones are the minorities. Recommend

  • immortal_soloist
    May 18, 2015 - 3:53PM

    The comments here are hilarious by the Indians.

    It was the NLI that got involved in the Kargil conflict so the casualties of Pakistan Army soldiers was not in huge numbers. Facts and figures are there if one bothers to look at them.

    Secondly your own Indian channels admit that Pakistan was victorious had it not withdrawn from from the conflict due to Nawaz Sharif’s orders because he was pressurised from the US.

    And those who are saying Musharraf didn’t contribute to health,education and the energy sector need to really educate themselves and not act like a bunch of misinformed buffoons.

    It was not because of the Afghan War that we got money it was because of proper governance,it was because loans were paid off and it was because we said goodbye to the IMF by repaying all its loans because proper channels were used to increase the economy of the country by utilising resources. Anyone that says Musharraf’s time wasn’t better or great is a liar to the extreme core. Recommend

  • Factcheck
    May 18, 2015 - 4:08PM

    @p r sharma:

    Don’t you think, one has to have credibility to start with to erode it?Recommend

  • Marxian
    May 18, 2015 - 5:14PM

    These Indians really have nothing to do except keeping their eye on Pakistan and arguing on issues that are now a part of history. They cannot even ignore the statement of Musharraf who is the most unimportant person,even for the Pakistanis. Please go and try to solve your own problems rather than defending the kargil war. If Pakistan is facing problems, India is also not a prosperous country as it is also suffering from social problems like rape, sanitation etc etc. We both are sailing on the same boat where social issues are concerned so its better to use our minds constructively rather than using this old rhetoric of who won and who lost which is actually good for nothing!Recommend

  • jamor
    May 18, 2015 - 6:16PM

    @BOL:
    You should take your own advice and see other sources on the Kargil war.No country supported your actions.Even your sweeter than honey friend said that your forces had to withdraw.When did Musharraf ever speak the truth.When he said that Pakistan army was not involved and only mujaheddin occupied the peaks.Or when he refused to accept the bodies of his soldiers.Your soldiers had no logistic support as the lie had to be maintained that the army was not involved.They were starving and shell shocked from the relentless pounding from Bofors guns and aircraft.An army marches on its stomach,and your soldiers were ready to surrender as without food no one can fight for long.Its a figment of your imagination that they were not willing to surrender.Finally if your army won a great victory ,why was it necessary to arm your missiles with nuclear warheads.This info came from the US who were monitoring PakistanRecommend

  • Breaking Bad
    May 18, 2015 - 6:39PM

    Reading the comments make me believe that Indians hate him more than Pakistanis. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.Recommend

  • Zahir
    May 18, 2015 - 7:27PM

    It was not a military defeat, but a political defeat due tot the weakness of Nawaz Shareef, Musharraf is not claiming political victory. He is only claiming military victory until the decision came to retreat. He is not saying they did not disown the dead bodies, after the retreat.

    The fact still remains, Pakistan military had occupied 4 out of 5 positions, and then gave up as a result of the political pressure America,
    Look at the facts only, not with emotions or with a mindset we are good & you are bad, we are heroes and your villains. There is a gray area, always, in some aspect you could be a villain, and in some aspect the other party. Life is not like movies with a mindset of good an bad, hero and villain.Recommend

  • Mahesh
    May 18, 2015 - 9:30PM

    @Pak:
    Learn to live with it friend. Its an Indian world. Their opinions matter and if you ever go outside of your own country to work, most likely you will have an Indian in your Managerment.Recommend

  • Hmm
    May 18, 2015 - 9:45PM

    Yes, we won’t forget this . And one more belligerence, we will strike hard and then we will explain the meaning of phrase “100 sonar ki, ek lohar ki” to the whole world . India’s idealistic leaders didn’t capture the forward posts at that time, otherwise We would have regained the PoK at that point only.Recommend

  • Ibrar
    May 18, 2015 - 10:48PM

    @Meghana:

    You guys live with a constant burn. Chinese investment in Pakistan is mutually beneficial to both countries but your contracted minds will not understand. Is Chinese life saving investment in India an example of aid? Keep on itching man.Recommend

  • Bobb Mack
    May 18, 2015 - 11:49PM

    @Hmm:

    You are living in a hole. Your threat comes at a wrong time. What ever the past history of conflicts we are now in an era that war is the last thing that Indian would want to do. If you do not understand ask your elders. Pakistan is now a very strong country despite its on going challenges which are only hardening us. Your country is also being encircled as very often complained by your leadership….and since the recent Pak-China collaboration on a network of economic routes via Pakistan your fears seem to be growing. Your leaders are already changing and bowing to China because they are rightly concerned that increasing Pak-China ties could one day lead to gang rape of India.Recommend

  • khalidmurad1
    May 19, 2015 - 12:11AM

    Most interesting are the remarks of these Indian Hindus and their agents or Hind-Hoos with covered names. Kargil was the real rod shoved in Indians and it really pained, that was why Vajpai Hind-Hoo, after Indian Army failed totally to re grip the situation in Kargil Sector, had gone to his American Uncle Clinton and cried so loud that he had to shout on Nawaz and in turn Hindu Nawaz Government had to call back Pak Army, during which coward Hind-Hoos fired on Pak Army and caused casualties of Pakistani troops. Every time you talk of Kargil, Indians would run back to East Pakistan Disaster, which was the only life time success of Indian Hind-Hoo Army in centuries, with 7:1 strength (One Pakistani division, with 60 % strength fighting against 7 Indian divisions), while Bengali Hindus had created Mukti Bahinis in side. Whereas the had been properly booted by Chinese in 1962, which they would never talk, rather Indians started singing “Hindi Cheeni Bhai Bhai”. The booting of Indians in Kargil and its importance could be understood by only those who have been to those areas. Recommend

  • tmm
    May 19, 2015 - 12:17AM

    It is very unfortunate that Army in Pakistan has such a strong hold that even their disasters and echoing failures find the shoulders of civilians. I can understand the silence of Pakistani intelligentsia for the fear of their limbs and lives. But how and why Harvard and other ivy league institutions were paying him hefty amount for his lectures. What they were expecting him to deliver? a social scientist unleashing a new theory on conflict management or a general sharing his military ingenuity that were translated into unbelievable success stories. He was just a below average entity who was lucky by chance. Recommend

  • hamza khan
    May 19, 2015 - 12:23AM

    @Hmm:

    your talking about capturing posts, hahhaa your army wasnt even able to peek out of their bunkers from fear. pakistan captured 5 strategic posts, of which india was only aware of 1 of them. the other 4 you didnt even know we were sitting inside/on top of and riding your army like a cheap prostitute. we can be belligerent as much as we want. we know your routine- make noise, come to the border and then back away after you realize what will happen. hahahaaRecommend

  • globalobserver
    May 19, 2015 - 12:29AM

    This liar is still at his old tricks of fooling people. He sent 3000 NLI soldiers to unnecessary deaths and caused global condemnation of Pakistan as the aggressor due to his Kargil misadventure. Now he wants to boast that he did Pakistan a great service. As long as characters like him hold the Pakistani public sway Pakistan will continue to move along the path of degeneration and disintegration.Recommend

  • Hassan
    May 19, 2015 - 12:31AM

    God gave us an opportunity to win in Kargil war and all credit goes to then general Pervez Musharraf and Pak Army but the incompetent leaders failed to face the pressure and we lost the war through political pressure due the lack of courage of our leaders.Recommend

  • Rao
    May 19, 2015 - 12:34AM

    It is unfortunate that Pakistanis do not give more credit to Gen. Musharaf, for he was the man who saved Pakistan from the scourge of Al Queda and Taliban. What a brave man who was once in the line of fire. Kargil was lost because of petty minded politicians like N.Sharif.

    Someday, Pakistan will remember the contribution by this general who held India by its throat – a lesson India will remember for generations to come!

    May Allah bless you!Recommend

  • Naresh
    May 19, 2015 - 12:56AM

    @Ibrar: You guys live with a constant burn. Chinese investment in Pakistan is mutually beneficial to both countries but your contracted minds will not understand. Is Chinese life saving investment in India an example of aid? Keep on itching man.
    .
    China prefers Pakistan to India as in Pakistan the Chinese are Guaranteed a Profit of Eighteen Per Cent but in India they can only possibly make a Profit of Ten Per Cent.
    .
    Thus Pakistan will always get far more Chinese FDI-Aid-Loans-Investments than India.
    CheersRecommend

  • Dr. Shafique
    May 19, 2015 - 1:56AM

    The pathology of Pervez Musharraf would make an interesting case study for psychiatrists. He lives in his self-created delusions about his greatness and how he “got India by the throat”. The man will not be able to reach India’s throat simply because the latter is too big and powerful for an adversary like Pakistan. The occasional noises this dictator – he is NOT a president – makes is merely to remain in the news, lest he become completely extinct in his country’s political landscape. Poor Musharraf — he also has to prove his loyalty to Pakistan more than the average Pakistani because he happens to be a mohajir who are looked down in Pakistan. What is particularly shameful about this man is the fact that he does not utter a word about more than the thousand dead soldiers who gave their lives fighting in Kargil but whose corpses he refused to take back. What can be more humiliating and insulting to the dead soldiers than their country disowning them?! Just think of how the families and relatives of all those who gave their lives in the battle must have felt. There is no truth in his bragging (without any legitimacy) about “going for the jugular”. His lies are, unfortunately, not verified by the majority of the gullible Pakistanis, including many educated people, who simply fall for the propaganda and lies of their leaders who, in turn, churn out all the fantastic stories about their “glory”. By the way, many respected military strategists, including Pakistanis, describe the Kargil misadventure a very costly mistake and absolutely foolhardy. In our modern times, thinking of attacking another country is unthinkable; if you do that, think of the consequences which can be disastrous for Pakistan which is already living on borrowed time and money.Recommend

  • Meghana
    May 19, 2015 - 2:26AM

    @Ibrar
    Saudi and USA freebies, not China. China provides you soft loans and and mou on investment. On other hand it invests in indian companies. And indian economy doesn’t depend on China’s investment or non investment or any one specific country to run itself. Out of 196 countries, 195 are our friends connected to our economy. We gain from having business, investment that “we pay for” from all over, Don’t seek free aid to run economy.
    Our risks and options are diversified. Where as you have only “1” country to look forth too and have to adjust your foriegn policy as per rest donors.Recommend

  • ask
    May 19, 2015 - 8:40AM

    At Kakul the good General must have learnt Dunkirk well. And learnt how a spin can make a loss appear like a win and retreat appear more glamourous than victory.Recommend

  • Paresh
    May 19, 2015 - 8:46AM

    @Saleem:
    It was war on terrorism from or side. Man pray USA that it saved you and your country otherwise it would have got decimated then by the might of IndiaRecommend

  • Paresh
    May 19, 2015 - 9:05AM

    This primitive persons doesn’t want the people to escape fern their clutch and so is religious leaders. What welfare you could have gained even if miyan musharraf had won the war and got controlled over kargil. What welfare will it add to your teeming hungry millions even if you get Kashmir. It’s not territory that makes one or nation happy but education technology and plural institutions that allow nation to prosper. Singapore is far superior nation without any military adventure on territory. The nation which lives in medieval victory of barbarians week never understand this. Recommend

  • Mohammad
    May 19, 2015 - 11:26AM

    @Alien1: kargil was response to that.. you mere Lucky that Musharraf was not Army chief at the time of 1971 otherwise you would have been licking your wounds till the rest of your existence.Recommend

  • jamor
    May 19, 2015 - 11:40AM

    @khalidmurad1:
    Your comments even embarrass your countrymen.Not one recommendation.Vajpayee did not go to US,Nawaz Sharif your PM went to Clinton asking for a ceasefire.Vajpayee refused to do so until the Pakistani army withdrew.Sharif then tried to get Cilnton to mediate in the Kashmir dispute.Clinton refused and only agreed to a watered down statement.I also find it odd that Musharraf is blaming Nawaz Sharif for the withdrawal.We all know that in Pakistan its the military who call the shots.Do you seriously believe that the military would retreat when they are in a winning position.The truth is that the military were in an indefensible position and asked Sharif to work out a solutionRecommend

  • Iqbal
    May 19, 2015 - 12:48PM

    I am not sure if this man is mentally retarded or not. This same person famously said:
    “Today we (Muslims) are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race.”
    Today he appears to suggest that the Indians are.Recommend

  • Ind
    May 19, 2015 - 2:09PM

    @pak. Dont you read journals and newspapers. There are no bomblasts every week in our country. Go and see the economy and GDP. The difference between you and us is like a difference between a pond and an ocean.Recommend

  • uma
    May 20, 2015 - 8:28AM

    Being caught in an indefensible position, pk army wanted to retreat with their “honour(izzat)” intact. They asked(ordered) sharif to negotiate this solution,which he did.Recommend

  • Prada
    May 20, 2015 - 4:53PM

    He is not the sharpest tool in the shed and therein lies the problem. He is incapable of understanding the ramifications of what he says.Recommend

  • Rao
    May 20, 2015 - 9:33PM

    @Khushbakt:
    I am sure you are free man with good education and God given reasoning faculties. Always read what others in foreign papers write, compare and then arrive at your own verdict. Never accept government explanations without some degree of scepticism!Recommend

  • Meshuga
    May 21, 2015 - 5:04AM

    @Prada: His elevator does not go all the way to top. He’s not the brightest bulb in the belfry. Recommend

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